Re: [biofuels-biz] Digest Number 230

2002-05-14 Thread David Teal
Chuck wrote: What to do with all the Glycerin? Egads! BURN IT! many, many BTU's there. Wait a minute...maybe we should pump it back into the ground where all the oil came from to prevent earthquakes =:-O I agree, but how to do it safely and in a way that the useful heat can be recovered. I

Re: [biofuels-biz] Digest Number 230

2002-05-14 Thread Keith Addison
Chuck wrote: What to do with all the Glycerin? Egads! BURN IT! many, many BTU's there. Wait a minute...maybe we should pump it back into the ground where all the oil came from to prevent earthquakes =:-O I agree, but how to do it safely and in a way that the useful heat can be recovered. I

Re: [biofuels-biz] Digest Number 230

2002-05-14 Thread steve spence
And don't forget the babington burner as well. http://www.webconx.dns2go.com/2000/biofuel/babington/ Steve Spence Subscribe to the Renewable Energy Newsletter: http://www.webconx.com/subscribe.htm Renewable Energy Pages - http://www.webconx.dns2go.com/ Human powered devices, equipment, and

Re: [biofuels-biz] Digest Number 230

2002-05-14 Thread Tilapia
I've been doing several postings on that other web site on this topic, so here is my input on this topic. The Babington burner works great for raw oil, ugly biodiesel, or other fluids, but it will not burn glycerol in concentrations greater than about 20 or 25%. It seems that this stuff is

[biofuels-biz] Re: Digest Number 230

2002-05-14 Thread manickh
As regards the acrolein problem, could it be removed by firing with ethanol for a while and then switch back to glycerine. Or, alternatively using a mix of etanol/glycerine. this reasoning is purely based on solubility. I am just posting my thoughts here. I don't know about earthquakes cuz they

[biofuels-biz] Re uploads

2002-05-14 Thread Keith Addison
Hi Manickh (Should we call you Eddy?) This is an interesting file you uploaded. I have an old report of a research project at Universiti Sains Malaysia (sp?) investigating the use of silica from rice hull as molecular sieve. Did you ever hear anything about that? It would be convenient if

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Re: [biofuel] Dumb Question Was: Digest Number 945

2002-05-14 Thread Greg and April
- Original Message - From: Curtis Sakima [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, May 13, 2002 19:27 Subject: [biofuel] Dumb Question Was: Digest Number 945 I have this dumb question .. but it's always buggin' me. Ethanol is always spoken of as not energy

[biofuel] Re: truck question

2002-05-14 Thread motie_d
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Suppose one wanted a half ton truck with diesel motor. Can you buy one, and if not, is a conversion fesible, and if so, what would you recommend? Glenn Ellis [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Chevy makes a

Re: [biofuel] Dumb Question Was: Digest Number 945

2002-05-14 Thread MH
I have this dumb question .. but it's always buggin' me. Ethanol is always spoken of as not energy efficient. I take to mean that more energy needs to be poured in than comes out in the form of ethanol. Got THAT. Makes sense ... since ethanol is sort of an energy carrier

Re: [biofuel] heating a home.

2002-05-14 Thread Tiastobio
I've done a little experimentation with WVO and SVO in an Intertherm hot air furnace. WVO burns off with too much uncombusted carbon. I discontinuned for fear of the heat exchanger fouling. SVO (canola) burned hot and clean with minimal pre-heat. The WVO (soy) was boosted to about

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Re: [biofuel] Re: truck question

2002-05-14 Thread glenne1949
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[biofuel] Hey Steve, can ya wait a year?

2002-05-14 Thread k5farms
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Re Re: [biofuel] heating a home.

2002-05-14 Thread glenne1949
Would the problem become easier if you put the burner outside the house? Perhaps use a Babington burner to heat water for a tank vented to atmosphere, heat exchanger to draw heat from the tank, secondary loop of the exchanger tapped into the boiler of the house furnace. Alternatively, a

[biofuel] Stoichiometric values (to Ken from Phillipines)

2002-05-14 Thread Christian
Hi Ken, I«ve had my doubts on the stoichiometric values since a beginning (not that they were wrong or anything, I was just curious), but I never had the tiem to write it down on paper. We could briefly try it here, assuming you«ve got the percentages of FA in coconut oil is as you«ve

Re: [biofuel] Stoichiometric values

2002-05-14 Thread Ken Provost
Ken from Phillipines writes: in short there is around 1.74 moles of glycerine for every 1000 grams of refined coconut oil. From here i would need 5.22 moles of methanol or 210 ml of methanol. The receipe in journey to forever says to use 200 ml of methanol for every 1000 ml of oil

RE: [biofuel] Fuel pump woes

2002-05-14 Thread Hall, Edward C.
Dennis, Thanks for the info. Can you tell me anything more about this seal? Is it easy to replace (do-it-yourself/special tools) or should this be done by a shop? Is this seal rubber? Ed -Original Message- From: dennis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 10:06 PM To:

RE: [biofuel] truck question

2002-05-14 Thread Juan Boveda
Hi, Glenn I do not know where are you located but here in Paraguay at the southwestof Brazil we can buy a half ton truck with a diesel engine, Brazil's automakers are exporting many of them. There is Chevrolet's Corsa diesel, Fiat's Fiorino 1.7 L diesel , VW's Parati 1.9 L diesel, all of

RE: [biofuel] Stoichiometric values (to Ken from Phillipines)

2002-05-14 Thread Mccall Tom WP US
I there any way to transesterfy the Glycerin? It has 3 -OH groups I would think that you could esterfy with Acetic acid. If you esterfied all 3 -OH groups you would have a C9 hydrocarbon with 6 oxygens. Talk about an oxygenated fuel. I think that a C-9 is close to the size of gasoline

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Re Re: [biofuel] heating a home.

2002-05-14 Thread k5farms
Use a simple diesel genset a 4500w uses 4 gallons a day, pump all the heat to the basement, keep the hot water tank over 100, 75 on second floor and @ 60-65 on the third floor, enough excess power to keep three of your neighbors happs too, eh? Hope one has a hot tub, I hate using raw veg oil

Re: [biofuel] Stoichiometric values (to Ken from Phillipines)

2002-05-14 Thread Christian
I ca«t be too sure on my answer, but wouldn«t it bee too dense? First of all, it wouldn«t be a transesterification, as the transesterification implies: ROH + R«COOR«« -- R««OH + R«COOR i.e., switching the carbon chains between an ester and an alcohol. You«d be esterifying the glycerin: C3H5(OH)3

[biofuel] makeing biofuel

2002-05-14 Thread greg1209_2000
i just got the new issue of home power #89. there is a story about someone makeing commercial biodesel www.yellowbiodesel.com there are other URL`s of others some that i have not found. greg Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- FREE COLLEGE MONEY CLICK

Re: [biofuel] makeing biofuel

2002-05-14 Thread Keith Addison
i just got the new issue of home power #89. there is a story about someone makeing commercial biodesel www.yellowbiodesel.com there are other URL`s of others some that i have not found. greg Not any more. That's Tom Leue's outfit, that got stopped by the EPA. It seems he has other plans

Re: [biofuel] VW diesel question

2002-05-14 Thread dennis
i dont know the exact hp or torque, but after looking in my generator book your engine should have more than enough power. one thing you would have to do is put a belt driven governor on the motor to maintain the speed.dennis Tiastobio wrote: VW 1500-1600 HP/Torque vs RPM

Re: [biofuel] Fuel pump woes

2002-05-14 Thread dennis
i dont know for sure, but it should be a rubber seal. you will have to look and see if the lever comes off the shaft and if it has a external seal then you should be able to replace it yourself. one thing about injection pumps is, a leaking pump does not mean its wore out! Hall, Edward C.

[biofuel] Re: Fuel-enhancer making inroads (?)

2002-05-14 Thread mrcombustion2002
One of the reasons the big oil companies don't buy up this technology - they have seen thousands of additives that don't do what they say. The second might be that if fuel sales dropped 10%, so would their profits. They are getting a start - see Lubrizol's PuriNOx at www.Lubrizol.com. This

Re: Ethanol Subsidy - was Re: [biofuel] Digest Number 945

2002-05-14 Thread MH
US tax dollars at work: Biofuels for Your State While over at: Office of Transportation Technologies Alternative Fuels Data Center Department of Energy Biofuels For Sustainable Transportation http://www.ott.doe.gov/biofuels/ The U.S. Department of Energy (DOE) National Biofuels Program

Re: [biofuel] Cellulosic ethanol

2002-05-14 Thread MH
Cellulosic Biomass Issues: For the ethanol industry to expand significantly above the five billion gallon annual production level would almost certainly require the use of some form of cellulosic feedstocks. In some cases there may be environmental concerns about how such materials (e.g.

Re: [biofuel] Cellulosic ethanol

2002-05-14 Thread MH
Climate Change: While climate change and how to deal with it continues to stimulate great debate, there seems to be a growing consensus that biofuels, including ethanol from both grain and cellulosic feedstock, significantly reduce emissions of CO2. Numerous studies in recent years indicate

[biofuel] acetic acid + glycerin (to T)

2002-05-14 Thread Christian
For those who wondered, I ran the esterification product from glyc + acetic acid (triacetato de glicerilo, in spanish.. I suppose in Eng it«s something like glycerin triacetate), and the program calculated a melting point of 29.53 ¼C, and a boiling point of 263.38 ¼C. That would make it solid

Re: [biofuel] truck question

2002-05-14 Thread steve spence
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Re: [biofuel] Hey Steve, can ya wait a year?

2002-05-14 Thread steve spence
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Re: [biofuel] Stoichiometric values

2002-05-14 Thread Ken
Thanks Christian and Ken, No wonder i was getting only 90% yield. And also i was using the two stage method so that meant i was running it very lean too. This clarifies everything. Thanks Ken snip Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Buy Stock for $4