Re: [biofuels-biz] DOE Grant

2002-06-10 Thread David Teal
Todd wrote: David, I'm trying to get a handle on what yesterday's technology is relative to biodiesel manufacture. Esterification and transesterification technologies aren't going to be changing much more in the future than they have in the recent past. And even if a few improvements in CP or

Re: [biofuel] Equipment Information

2002-06-10 Thread henning
Did you think of a manual ram press? Carl Bielenberg in Vermont developed one (see address below). They are easy to build. And very cheap. Look into: http://www.jatropha.org/rampresses/biel-ram.htm Reinhard Henning Ken Provost [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: Reinhard writes: You are

[biofuel] Help! Any parts worth scavenging?

2002-06-10 Thread Christopher Witmer
I'm about to junk [* see note at bottom] a 1989 Nissan van (gasoline engine) with 43,000 miles on it, and in its place I'll be getting a 1989 Nissan van (DIESEL engine) with 27,000 miles on it. Both are automatic transmission vehicles; the former is 4WD and the latter 2WD. I would like to try

Re: [biofuel] Equipment Information

2002-06-10 Thread Harmon Seaver
Are there plan sets available for these presses? I can't find anything on the website other than the small drawing. On Sun, Jun 09, 2002 at 11:21:00AM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Did you think of a manual ram press? Carl Bielenberg in Vermont developed one (see address below). They

Re: [biofuel] Equipment Information

2002-06-10 Thread Kim Garth Travis
Great idea! Kim Harmon Seaver wrote: Anyway, what I was last thinking was building a combo log splitter/pellet press. Engine driven, of course, not just a handpump jack. I need the log splitter anyway, so maybe just build it so you put different ends on the ram, etc. One of those

Re: [biofuel] Help! Any parts worth scavenging?

2002-06-10 Thread Grahams
From a consignment store perspective, this looks like a great new money making venture... importing Japan's used cars! Hmm how much to ship one or those things? Also seriously though, what about other parts that may need to be replaced- doors, glass, tires etc. Here of course we use used

Re: [biofuel] Help! Any parts worth scavenging?

2002-06-10 Thread henning
Dear Christopher, You can get into contact with some of the many diesel engine adapters to SVO-use in Europe. I put some of the contact linkt into the Jatropha oil website http://jatropha.org/p-o-engines/conversion-cars.htm There is even a meeting of SVO-users in Germany, the beginning of

Re: [biofuel] Help! Any parts worth scavenging?

2002-06-10 Thread Christopher Witmer
Grahams wrote: From a consignment store perspective, this looks like a great new money making venture... importing Japan's used cars! I think a lot of used Japanese cars end up in Australia, where they drive on the same side of the road (left). And a lot of used Japanese cars end up in

[biofuel] Re: EPA Ruling Backfires....

2002-06-10 Thread Curtis Sakima
Me too ... I believe in local production / local usage. It gives the local village more self-sufficiency. And more choice. What I mean by choice is that ... when there's self-sufficiency, the stability of the user village is not so dependant on the supplier village's political stability (or

Re: [biofuel] Help! Any parts worth scavenging?

2002-06-10 Thread Larry Ruebush
There are companies now importing used Japanse forklift and small tractors[under 25 hp] to the US . They are cleaned up,repainted and sold. Larry Ruebush west central IL - Original Message - From: Christopher Witmer To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, June 10, 2002 9:08

[biofuel] Ethanol Diesel Lubricity

2002-06-10 Thread MH
Some excerpted highlights follow: Technical Barriers to the Use of Ethanol in Diesel Fuel Robert L. McCormick Center for Transportation Technologies and Systems National Renewable Energy Laboratory Golden, CO 80401-3393 7th Annual National Ethanol Conference February 27-March

[biofuel] Canada's Saskatchewan Agrivision

2002-06-10 Thread MH
Some excerpts from Saskatchewan Agrivision Corporation Inc. Documents Projects http://www.agrivision.sk.ca/publications.htm . ..We have only scratched the surface of developing farm-based sources of renewable energy ethanol, biodiesel, biomass, wind, methane, hydrogen. .Anything we can

Re: [biofuel] Ethanol Diesel Lubricity dirty fuel

2002-06-10 Thread MH
I have some ignorant questions (I had to ask): I'm not sure if I'd deliberately add water to biodiesel since BD and ethanol absorb moisture from the air. Anyone know the saturation point of either biofuels? And wouldn't the filters take care of this? A partnership with Chevron mentioned

[biofuel] Biodiesel Workshop in Iowa

2002-06-10 Thread vladilyich
MAHARISHI UNIVERSITY OF MANAGEMENT Office of Public Affairs Fairfield, Iowa 52557 Ph. 641-472-7000 http://www.mum.edu For Immediate Release (Please excuse cross posting.) Contacts: Ken Chawkin, 641-470-1314 or Marielle Savard, [EMAIL PROTECTED] GROUP OF TRAVELING ENVIRONMENTALISTS TO OFFER

[biofuel] Foolproof method

2002-06-10 Thread William Clark
Hey yall- I am Bill Clark and new to the group as well as biodiesel. I am currently developing a Southeastern Center for Sustainable Communities for Audubon International. I am located in S.E. Alabama, U.S.A. I have many questions so I will pose them 1 at a time. When settling out water from

Re: [biofuel] Foolproof method

2002-06-10 Thread Neoteric Biofuels Inc.
Bill - sunlight will degrade vegoils. Best to store in dark and use as soon as possible. Edward Beggs, BES, MSc http://www.biofuels.ca on 6/10/02 2:22 PM, William Clark at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey yall- I am Bill Clark and new to the group as well as biodiesel. I am currently

Re: [biofuel] Foolproof method

2002-06-10 Thread William Clark
Edward- Thanks for your reply. Still wondering about time a temp. It would still be possible for me to heat with solar without exposing oil to sunlight. For now, WVO will be used as collected. Bill C. - Original Message - From: Neoteric Biofuels Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Biofuel-JTF

[biofuel] First stage foolproof method

2002-06-10 Thread William Clark
Next question. What problems might I encounter using anhydrous ethanol as opposed to methanol as a reactant in this process? Bill C. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Will You Find True Love? Will

Re: [biofuel] Foolproof method

2002-06-10 Thread Greg and April
- Original Message - From: William Clark Sent: Monday, June 10, 2002 15:22 Subject: [biofuel] Foolproof method When settling out water from the WVO, one method suggests heating to 60 deg C for 15 minutes. Is this temperature a minimum, same for time? My reason for asking is that we

Re: [biofuel] Foolproof method

2002-06-10 Thread Christopher Witmer
All this is based on my reading rather than actual experience, but as long as the solar radiation is only being applied to the biodiesel as heat, the controlled use of that heat to rid WVO of water should present no problem. (Are you sure the time and temp you gave is correct? It sounds more

Re: [biofuel] Foolproof method

2002-06-10 Thread William Clark
Christopher- Still curious. Apart from UV degradation of plastic and oil, would there be any problems associated with exceeding time and temp I mentioned. I got these from Journey To Forever website under Foolproof Method. Bill C. - Original Message - From: Christopher Witmer [EMAIL

Re: [biofuel] Foolproof method

2002-06-10 Thread Neoteric Biofuels Inc.
You can use the sun to heat it for filtering, etc., but it is best to store, before and after, in the dark and not store any longer than you need to - unless it's frozen under a snowdrift, that is. Edward Beggs, BES, MSc http://www.biofuels.ca on 6/10/02 3:16 PM, William Clark at [EMAIL

RE : Re: [biofuel] oil crisis data

2002-06-10 Thread ramjee
Sorry. Here it is... http://www.hubbertpeak.com/politics/ __ramjee. At Fri, 07 Jun 2002 17:52:04 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do you happen to know precisely where you found this? You didn't give the exact link. TIA. MM Another interesting snippet from the same

Re: [biofuel] Foolproof method

2002-06-10 Thread Christopher Witmer
Well, on paper at least you want to minimize exposure to heat prior to use. But I assume you are not planning to store the stuff for weeks or months in constant exposure to direct sun, and if the duration is short (say, a day or two) your vehicle may not notice any practical difference, even

Re: [biofuel] Ethanol Diesel Lubricity dirty fuel

2002-06-10 Thread Harmon Seaver
On Mon, Jun 10, 2002 at 02:32:04PM -0500, MH wrote: I have some ignorant questions (I had to ask): I'm not sure if I'd deliberately add water to biodiesel since BD and ethanol absorb moisture from the air. Anyone know the saturation point of either biofuels? And wouldn't the filters

Re: [biofuel] First stage foolproof method

2002-06-10 Thread Ken Provost
Next question. What problems might I encounter using anhydrous ethanol as opposed to methanol as a reactant in this process? I believe the first step involves mostly esterification but also some transesterification. I don't know how much you're relying on the glycerine to fall out of the

RE: [biofuel] Foolproof method

2002-06-10 Thread Hall, Edward C.
Gentlemen, When you say use as soon as possible, are you referring to the WVO or the biodiesel? I was under the impression that biodiesel will store for about a year if kept in a cool, dark place. Ed -Original Message- From: William Clark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 10,

Re: ASTM Flash point was Re: [biofuel] water (Keith)

2002-06-10 Thread Christian
Do you know the year in which ASTM D5761 was issued? Thx Chistian - Original Message - From: Appal Energy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 09, 2002 1:54 PM Subject: ASTM Flash point was Re: [biofuel] water (Keith) Flash Point: Above 118¼C (ASTM PS121

Re: ASTM Flash point was Re: [biofuel] water (Keith)

2002-06-10 Thread Appal Energy
D-6751 was published in April, 2002. - Original Message - From: Christian [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, June 10, 2002 8:46 PM Subject: Re: ASTM Flash point was Re: [biofuel] water (Keith) Do you know the year in which ASTM D5761 was issued? Thx Chistian

Re: [biofuel] First stage foolproof method

2002-06-10 Thread William Clark
Ken others- First I would like to thank all of you for your help your prompt replies. I thought it might be useful for me to describe what I have in mind. One of the missions we would like to undertake is to demonstrate the effectiveness of biodiesel as a fuel to the local community and

Re: [biofuel] First stage foolproof method

2002-06-10 Thread Neoteric Biofuels Inc.
We just heat it in the translucent polyjugs that the cooking oil is supplied to the restaurants in. A few hours in the sun on a hot day, and it is hot enough to filter. They're like little greenhouses. ;-) Good luck, keep us posted, we have been promoting the same idea around here to the

Re: [biofuel] First stage foolproof method

2002-06-10 Thread Appal Energy
That's rather a hopeful thought...that an Audobon/NBB board member could persuade the EPA and the soybean councils to make a loophole in the matrimonial papers they formulated in order to accomodate micro-regional manufacture. Don't get me wrong. It would be wonderful if they would. But that

Re: [biofuel] First stage foolproof method

2002-06-10 Thread William Clark
Todd- I don't know exactly what EPA and soybean councils have put on paper. I would be interested in seeing what legislation or rules apply. Would appreciate directions to access that info (if available). One loophole I hope to exploit may be that I am proposing that entities refine their own

Re: [biofuel] First stage foolproof method

2002-06-10 Thread Appal Energy
Bill, There is nothing to stop anyone from producing their own fuel for their own off-road use, save for local ordinances that may apply. And there may not be anything stopping anyone from producing their own fuel for their own personal on road use, save for the IRS and state taxation

Re: RE : Re: [biofuel] oil crisis data

2002-06-10 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Tue, Jun 11, 2002 at 08:30:02 IST (GMT+0530), you wrote: Here it is... http://www.hubbertpeak.com/politics/ Thanks, I appreciate it. Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send

Re: [biofuel] First stage foolproof method

2002-06-10 Thread William Clark
Todd- Early on in my ivestigation of biodiesel (relative to the total time I have spent) I checked with the municipality here and found that they are exempt from state and federal fuel taxes. Same for schools. My question here is if a municipality would be required to register thier fuel if they

Re: [biofuel] First stage foolproof method

2002-06-10 Thread Appal Energy
Bill, While you have hit upon what might appear to be a reasonable loophole in the matter, there remain several points of contention. For a moment consider that I might be a very bitter commercial biodiesel manufacturer, extremely angry at the manner in which the NBB/soy councils are attempting