Re: [Biofuel] Future car: What will you be driving?

2006-08-04 Thread Appal Energy
? Such a cell line should be in the literature. Kirk */Appal Energy [EMAIL PROTECTED]/* wrote: Southern Kaliforn-I-eh. By December's end, 2007. Plant is or has already been contracted upon and should be completed by then. Don't think it's quite yet proper to say what

Re: [Biofuel] Future car: What will you be driving?

2006-08-04 Thread Appal Energy
are these guys published? Such a cell line should be in the literature. Kirk */Appal Energy [EMAIL PROTECTED]/* wrote: Southern Kaliforn-I-eh. By December's end, 2007. Plant is or has already been contracted upon and should be completed by then. Don't think it's quite yet

Re: [Biofuel] Future car: What will you be driving?

2006-08-04 Thread Appal Energy
Keith, So in short Todd, as with the last 25 years, there is no biodiesel from algae right now on Planet Earth, but hey! it's just around the corner (December next year this time). Ho-hum, yawn... You can ho-hum-hokum-yawn all you wish. What good things are there that you can think of that

Re: [Biofuel] Future car: What will you be driving?

2006-08-04 Thread Appal Energy
wrote: I didnt see mention of 10^5 gallons of oil. I did see mention of scrubbing stack gasses. Kirk */Appal Energy [EMAIL PROTECTED]/* wrote: Actually that's a conservative value. See http://www.greencarcongress.com/2005/12/greenshift_lice.html and calculate what you

Re: [Biofuel] Future car: What will you be driving?

2006-08-04 Thread Appal Energy
Keith, Right Todd, more big-central stuff, with a cast of millions (of dollars) Being cynical is fine and quite often healthy. Being oblivious to what surrounds one is often to one's own and other's detriment. There are over 15,000 commercial boilers in the US. We're not speaking of just hot

Re: [Biofuel] Future car: What will you be driving?

2006-08-03 Thread Appal Energy
Southern Kaliforn-I-eh. By December's end, 2007. Plant is or has already been contracted upon and should be completed by then. Don't think it's quite yet proper to say what firm is financing it, at least not until they issue their first press release, which they may have already done for all

Re: [Biofuel] Future car: What will you be driving?

2006-08-03 Thread Appal Energy
. Mindock - Original Message - From: Appal Energy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Monday, July 31, 2006 12:39 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Future car: What will you be driving? And/or 100,000 gallons of oil per acre when growing algae. Todd Swearingen \ Kirk

Re: [Biofuel] Future car: What will you be driving?

2006-08-03 Thread Appal Energy
biodiesel from it. Peace, D. Mindock - Original Message - From: Appal Energy To: Sent: Monday, July 31, 2006 12:39 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Future car: What will you be driving? And/or 100,000 gallons of oil per acre when growing algae. Todd

Re: [Biofuel] Future car: What will you be driving?

2006-08-03 Thread Appal Energy
Tom, Per horizontal acre, with the algae growing vertically. http://www.greencarcongress.com/2005/12/greenshift_lice.html Bookmark that page and think about buying stock in the manufacturers of the technology. That is if you have all your credit cards payed off first. Todd Swearingen Tom

Re: [Biofuel] Coal

2006-08-03 Thread Appal Energy
The answer is simple. Existing Infrastructure, capitalizing on it and profit. Hoodwinking (manipulation) is all a part of the game. Todd Swearingen JJJN wrote: I have never understood why when they know that putting it in the air is bad they would start to try and mess up the aquifers too.

Re: [Biofuel] Future car: What will you be driving?

2006-07-31 Thread Appal Energy
And/or 100,000 gallons of oil per acre when growing algae. Todd Swearingen \ Kirk McLoren wrote: 1000 gallons methanol per acre with hemp if using pyrolytic distillation. Kirk */Jason Katie [EMAIL PROTECTED]/* wrote: WHAT!?!?!?!?!? Could we replace all our oil with

Re: [Biofuel] Question on clogged filters

2006-07-28 Thread Appal Energy
) there is a volume reduction that takes place as I can see a deformation of the container which indicates a slight vacuum inside. I assume this is due to oxygen reacting with the fuel? Is this a good assumption? Is the sediment I talked about the source of the filter clogging in bulk storage? Joe Appal

Re: [Biofuel] Question on clogged filters

2006-07-27 Thread Appal Energy
I think the filter clogging story is just an urban legend. Not. It's a reality. More predominant in bulk fuel storage. Automobiles can generally get away with regular maintenace intervals as the fuel is constantly being sloshed and jostled, not allowing the gringe to aggregate in abundance.

Re: [Biofuel] Fluorescent fuel?

2006-07-27 Thread Appal Energy
It recycles it, getting more total btus per barrel or ton than just the single use alone. Algae for biodiesel will stretch a btu by about 45%, or to be read another way, a 45% increase in fuel economy. Todd Swearingen Joe Street wrote: So if we use a plant to remove CO2 from the atmosphere

Re: [Biofuel] Biodiesel and the Petroleum Industry

2006-07-24 Thread Appal Energy
- Original Message - From: Appal Energy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2006 1:21 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Biodiesel and the Petroleum Industry Thomas, A) The subsidy is for blended fuel only, up to $1.00 per gallon for B-99 from first use feedstock

Re: [Biofuel] Redneck biodiesel video

2006-07-24 Thread Appal Energy
Let's see. Use only good oil, no fats, eh? So what is the friendly restaurant owner going to do with the chaf after the local redneck/tree-hugger has taken the cream off the top? Nice methanol exposure demonstration. Kids gather 'round and watch daddy real close... Then there's the

Re: [Biofuel] Redneck biodiesel video

2006-07-24 Thread Appal Energy
MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Appal Energy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Monday, July 24, 2006 7:03 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Redneck biodiesel video Let's see. Use only good oil, no fats, eh? So what is the friendly restaurant owner

Re: [Biofuel] Biodiesel and the Petroleum Industry

2006-07-23 Thread Appal Energy
Thomas, Why? You asked... 1) There's greater profit in blending biodiesel rather than selling straight. 2) Scrap all the misinformation about engine problems at higher blends. 3) Also scrap his misinformation about emissions benefits tapering off at 10%. They actually do little until after

Re: [Biofuel] Biodiesel and the Petroleum Industry

2006-07-23 Thread Appal Energy
, economic benefits aren't in line with environmental benefits. And the subsidy dollar doesn't help that matter either. Could you explain these two points? Thanks, Tom - Original Message - From: Appal

Re: [Biofuel] Cause of New Plymouth biodiesel explosion released

2006-07-20 Thread Appal Energy
Mike Weaver wrote: I feel sorry for the guy and his family but using a torch around methanol? Back in my wrenching days my boss made sure we knew an empty gas tank was more danergous than a full one, and god forbid you did any welding the gas tank had to be filled with water first. Appal

Re: [Biofuel] Cause of New Plymouth biodiesel explosion released

2006-07-20 Thread Appal Energy
. This was a case of operator error - a young man didn't realize the danger of methanol fumes and lost his life. Appal Energy wrote: It's sad to be making any comment on such a matter. Here you had a family that was on the edge of not only doing something great but putting themselves in an enormously

Re: [Biofuel] Trash Talk

2006-07-20 Thread Appal Energy
This is a PR piece, with the author being used to represent only a few of the facts. One of these little puppies is in the vicinity of Leesburg, Florida. In order to build it, the owner required a consistent volume of garbage and had the county/municipality agree to the tonnage. Unfortunately,

[Biofuel] Cause of New Plymouth biodiesel explosion released

2006-07-19 Thread Appal Energy
A bad day at Black Rock... http://www.ktvb.com/news/localnews/stories/ktvbn-jul1406-explosion_cause.113ae8b1.html Cause of New Plymouth biodiesel explosion released 02:30 PM MDT on Friday, July 14, 2006 KTVB.COM PAYETTE -- Investigators say they now know what caused an

Re: [Biofuel] The truth about where to stand on global warming

2006-07-19 Thread Appal Energy
people think in these terms? its demented. Jason ICQ#: 154998177 MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Appal Energy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 6:27 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] The truth about where to stand on global warming

Re: [Biofuel] EPA seizes thousands of illegally imported engines

2006-07-19 Thread Appal Energy
The Bush Administration will continue to enforce the Clean Air Act and stop illegal imports. The public's assistance and cooperation, along with the EPA's commitment to enforcing these regulations, is essential to preserving and protecting the nation's air quality. Chuckle..., chuckle...,

Re: [Biofuel] The truth about where to stand on global warming

2006-07-17 Thread Appal Energy
greed sector manipulating and creating wants/needs where none previously existed. Media is just the delivery mechanism. Todd Swearingen JJJN wrote: Todd, Points all well taken, see below. Appal Energy wrote: I would tend to believe that if you're expressing your belief / faith on paper

Re: [Biofuel] To Grid or Not to Grid?

2006-07-17 Thread Appal Energy
your penchant, me thinks you'd always kick yourself in the butt for not having a go at it right out of the chute. Todd Swearingen Ken Provost wrote: On Jul 16, 2006, at 7:48 AM, Appal Energy wrote: Well, since you invited the infusion of other's thought patterns I did

Re: [Biofuel] To Grid or Not to Grid?

2006-07-16 Thread Appal Energy
Well, since you invited the infusion of other's thought patterns Still it's offensive to just cave in to them, What's somewhat offensive is that it takes that much power to keep you jolly. Your standard load should or could be much less. Peak load (power tools) could be handled by a

Re: [Biofuel] To Grid or Not to Grid?

2006-07-16 Thread Appal Energy
Why not think as carbon neutral as possible? Todd Swearingen Fritz Friesinger wrote: Hi Ken, how about a 25KVA Genset run on Methanegaz? it seems to me Methane is the Way to go! Why... there is the transport and handling of the Biofuel a lot of manpower involved! You can set up a

Re: [Biofuel] The truth about where to stand on global warming

2006-07-16 Thread Appal Energy
I would tend to believe that if you're expressing your belief / faith on paper, you should be the one to polish the words. As for context, it's beyond me how those who are spiritually/religiously inclined fail to be the first on the environmental bandwagon. A) Seems a trifle arrogant and

[Biofuel] A little de-evolution humour....

2006-07-09 Thread Appal Energy
http://www.duke.edu/~charlie/AmishVirus.html ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html

Re: [Biofuel] Pimento rears his ugly head again. :-(

2006-07-08 Thread Appal Energy
No. It's not a Pimento clone. Least ways I don't think so. This is a syndicated piece that ran in newspapers all over the US last week. Some valid points. Some gross omissions. She certainly failed to mention or perhaps even consider algae, cellulosic ethanol and thermal depolymerization. And

Re: [Biofuel] Back to the future

2006-06-08 Thread Appal Energy
Actually, Diesel was contracted by the German navy to create an engine that ran on coal dust. In the process there were several explosive failures resulting in deaths. The presumption is made that Diesel used vegetable oils to reduce the explosive properties of coal dust. Eventually, and again

Re: [Biofuel] more goofy questions

2006-06-01 Thread Appal Energy
Many people compost the glycerine cocktail w/o any treatment. I think this is best done when KOH is used as the caustic rather than NaOH. Tom, I don't believe they're actually composting it. But they think they're composting it. The methanol fraction is toxic and the soap/oil fraction will

Re: [Biofuel] more goofy questions

2006-06-01 Thread Appal Energy
Well..., I think anything can compost/bio-degrade Keith, even pig iron and Exxon Valdez dropping. And no doubt the ratio of roughage to glyc cocktail certainly is paramount. But how many people hear the word compost, dump tonnage into a pile, and expect miracles without maintenance or

Re: [Biofuel] Biodiesel stinks - was Re: Venezuelan president Chavez

2006-05-29 Thread Appal Energy
Could there be some other explanation than the biodiesel? Or is it just his biodiesel? How would you make biodiesel that makes the exhaust stink? Unwashed fuel has a tart smell in comparison to washed fuel. Todd Swearingen Keith Addison wrote: Hi Zeke Lot of school busses are

Re: [Biofuel] Biodiesel stinks - was Re: Venezuelan president Chavez

2006-05-29 Thread Appal Energy
It's kind of acrid in comparison to washed fuel. Soaps, methanol and glycerol being the culprits. All things are relative. Some people love the smell of diesel fuel burning in the morning. (Paraphrased from the movie Apocalyse Now.) Todd Swearingen Keith Addison wrote: Could there be some

[Biofuel] 147 MPG Diesel

2006-05-28 Thread Appal Energy
http://www.greencarcongress.com/2006/05/malaysian_compa.html Malaysian Company Takes 26% Stake in German Maker of 157 MPG Diesel Car Malaysia’s Kosmo Motor Company has taken a 26% stake in Loremo AG, the developers of the Loremo LS, a 1.5 l/100km (157 mpg US) diesel

Re: [Biofuel] Initiative in Pa, USA

2006-05-27 Thread Appal Energy
This is a rather warped interpretation of carbon neutral. Admirable, but far from accurate or honest. Hanger urged the group to join PennFuture in leading the way, announcing that the organization had just become the state’s first public interest organization to go carbon neutral,

Re: [Biofuel] oil in galvanized zinc coated drums

2006-05-27 Thread Appal Energy
It's not solid oil. It's soap. The zinc coating provided the metal ion. Todd Swearingen Chris Tan wrote: I set aside some waste oil in a galvanized zinc coated drum. Later, I noticed that some of the oil seems to have solidified on the side of the drum. Does anyone have an explanation for

Re: [Biofuel] OT: Hybrid Camry

2006-05-27 Thread Appal Energy
The second thing is that due to the battery pack, the hybrids' trunk is about 30% smaller than in the standard Camry. We pack around huge coolers of food for church potlucks, and because I play in the praise band, my guitars and amp head will be a tight fit. I smell a small luggage

Re: [Biofuel] MaGnesol is... was Re: Manesol pretreatment and washing

2006-05-25 Thread Appal Energy
have been refresh. Todd Swearingen Chris Bennett wrote: Appal Energy wrote: B) Use of Magnesol marries the manufacturer to a vendor. I believe there are alternative brands of synthetic magnesium silicate on the market, several at a lower cost. I am currently looking

Re: [Biofuel] Police Brutality in Ohio

2006-05-25 Thread Appal Energy
/Community/steal/steal.html Namaste Keith Namaste Allen --- Appal Energy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You have to answer the questions who, what, where, when, why and how in the first 25 words. But you seem to expect to find the whole

[Biofuel] Algae, Biodiesel and CO2 Scrubbing

2006-05-25 Thread Appal Energy
GreenShift Licenses Bioreactor Technology for CO2 Scrubbing, Biofuel Production 12 December 2005 http://www.greencarcongress.com/2005/12/greenshift_lice.html ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org

Re: [Biofuel] MaGnesol is... was Re: Manesol pretreatment and washing

2006-05-24 Thread Appal Energy
The presumption is made that the following is from Dallas Group's PR about Magnesol. .. Water in biodiesel is not a good idea. Most people would agree this is a true statement. Dohhh!!! Perhaps that's why it's removed? Yet most people continue

Re: [Biofuel] Manesol pretreatment and washing

2006-05-24 Thread Appal Energy
Magnesol is synthetic magnesium silicate, constructed specifically with receptor sights to attract contaminants such as free glycerol, water, FFAs and degraded glycerides. Todd Swearingen Jason Katie wrote: just exactly what is magnesol? i mean i know what it is but what is it made of? -

Re: [Biofuel] Police Brutality in Ohio

2006-05-23 Thread Appal Energy
- From: Appal Energy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2006 9:45 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Police Brutality in Ohio Not shooting a messenger and it doesn't really matter if the both articles were from the same source or one was from Pluto

Re: [Biofuel] Police Brutality in Ohio

2006-05-23 Thread Appal Energy
I will say I find it interesting that you can find the time to send all this email *about* this post, but don't have the time to research it on your own. Would you like to hear what I find interesting? It's how some people make such declarations when exactly the opposite has occured and

Re: [Biofuel] Police Brutality in Ohio

2006-05-23 Thread Appal Energy
as for granola, it is full of fiber and nutrients. And an ample portion of fruits, nuts and flakes. Todd Swearingen Mike Weaver wrote: Hi Hakan, good job on the website! Todd, as for granola, it is full of fiber and nutrients. My favorite granola source is my local coop, but it is easy

Re: [Biofuel] Police Brutality in Ohio

2006-05-23 Thread Appal Energy
bits about the actions of the police were any less reprehensible. Peace, D. Mindock - Original Message - From: Appal Energy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2006 9:45 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Police Brutality in Ohio

Re: [Biofuel] Police Brutality in Ohio

2006-05-22 Thread Appal Energy
. Mindock - Original Message - From: Appal Energy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2006 9:45 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Police Brutality in Ohio Not shooting a messenger and it doesn't really matter if the both articles were from the same source

Re: [Biofuel] Police Brutality in Ohio

2006-05-22 Thread Appal Energy
, is that time had passed and emotions had cooled. But that doesn't mean that the original rendition's bits about the actions of the police were any less reprehensible. Peace, D. Mindock - Original Message - From: Appal Energy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org

Re: [Biofuel] Police Brutality in Ohio

2006-05-22 Thread Appal Energy
, is that time had passed and emotions had cooled. But that doesn't mean that the original rendition's bits about the actions of the police were any less reprehensible. Peace, D. Mindock - Original Message - From: Appal Energy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel

Re: [Biofuel] Separating Glycerine

2006-05-21 Thread Appal Energy
If it's a secret, include the word iguana anywhere in your response and I'll drop the subject. No real secret Tom. I took the numbers for the caustic you used, extrapolated the number from our hands on experience with FFA recovery and chucked the number your direction. Excess acid is

Re: [Biofuel] Police Brutality in Ohio

2006-05-21 Thread Appal Energy
link was too emotional then you should write the author of the article. Don't shoot the messenger. Peace, D. Mindock - Original Message - From: Appal Energy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2006 7:38 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Police Brutality in Ohio

Re: [Biofuel] Police Brutality in Ohio

2006-05-20 Thread Appal Energy
years in jail and thousands of dollars in fines. We plan to appeal the verdict and challenge all the gross violations of her rights. Click here to find out what you can do to help. == - Original Message - From: Appal Energy [EMAIL

Re: [Biofuel] Police Brutality in Ohio

2006-05-13 Thread Appal Energy
How about a little less emotionally charged, speech and a little more of the facts? Nothing personal. Just that the link you offered was 1,000% lopsided. Here's a slightly more factual bit, almost devoid of facts in comparison.

Re: [Biofuel] PLEASE READ - Re: Sweet catalyst continuous processes

2006-05-08 Thread Appal Energy
Jason, ok, obviously i touched a bare nerve I don't think there was ever or is any bare nerve. To me, and perhaps only to me, that implies some sort of agony, perhaps even incapacitating. That's not quite what has happened, much less continues. It did take a fair stretch of mental taffy to

Re: [Biofuel] gelled rebatch

2006-05-08 Thread Appal Energy
Ryan, Once, a bit over six years ago, I rather hastily put together a gallon of what I thought would be biodiesel from hempseed oil. Sure enough, it glopped out. I racked my brain as to what went wrong and could come up with nothing, believing that I'd done everything to the tee. Over the

Re: [Biofuel] gelled rebatch

2006-05-08 Thread Appal Energy
: And what happened to the REST of the hemp plant? Appal Energy wrote: Ryan, Once, a bit over six years ago, I rather hastily put together a gallon of what I thought would be biodiesel from hempseed oil. Sure enough, it glopped out. I racked my brain as to what went wrong and could come up

Re: [Biofuel] PLEASE READ - Re: Sweet catalyst continuous processes

2006-05-08 Thread Appal Energy
. From: Appal Energy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Date: Sun, 07 May 2006 14:50:25 -0400 To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] PLEASE READ - Re: Sweet catalyst continuous processes Mark, How can it be that we are so rough on each other sometimes

Re: [Biofuel] PLEASE READ - Re: Sweet catalyst continuous processes

2006-05-07 Thread Appal Energy
Mark, How can it be that we are so rough on each other sometimes? Humans tend to create their own hell all by themselves. Just because they choose to do so doesn't mean that everyone else should join them in the sulfur pit, or pig pit as the case may be. Perhaps it's unavoidable: No.

Re: [Biofuel] PLEASE READ - Re: Sweet catalyst continuous processes

2006-05-06 Thread Appal Energy
Yo dee ho Keith, This offlist stuff these folks do here happens especially if anyone mentions Aleks's Foolproof acid-base method, they really hate Aleks, though they've never encountered him in any way. He's at Journey to Forever but they're not, you see. (They hate Todd Swearingen too.)

Re: [Biofuel] Fw: I'm the Decider

2006-05-02 Thread Appal Energy
Groovy dude!!! Where can I get the t-shirt? D. Mindock wrote: Subject: I'm the Decider Bush said the other day, I am the decider. The following is from dailykos.com. Well, it took me awhile, but I finally realized what I'm the decider reminds me of. It sounds

Re: [Biofuel] FFA's as Weed Killer

2006-05-01 Thread Appal Energy
See the glycerol separation section at JTF. FFAs (100% pure) rise to the surface. They're not soluble in water. In their pure state they would be be applied in a similar manner as used by county and state road crews to curb weeds along asphalt roadways. Todd Swearingen . Mike Weaver wrote:

Re: [Biofuel] Water in recovered methanol?

2006-04-28 Thread Appal Energy
As my distillation temps rose towards 200F (93C) could I have been including water in my distillate? Yes, and you probably did. This is why they use distillation columns in industry. Zeolytes should work. Just make sure that whatever one you choose is capable of absorbing water. Not all

Re: [Biofuel] FFA's as Weed Killer

2006-04-28 Thread Appal Energy
What is the mechanism of FFA action on plants? Suffocation and some burning if in direct sunlight. The consolation about veg oils or FFAs when land applied is that the microbes needed to degrade them are readily present and in high populations, opposed to fossil oils, where the type needed

Re: [Biofuel] Water in recovered methanol?

2006-04-28 Thread Appal Energy
I came across molecular sieves while reading about ethanol purification, and was lead to believe (mistakenly?)that they can be regenerated by drying in the sun. The temp needed can be achieved in a solar oven. Todd Swearingen Thomas Kelly wrote: Joe, Thanks for the reply. You

Re: [Biofuel] Water in recovered methanol?

2006-04-28 Thread Appal Energy
to cook food (and do they really work?) or is there some other, high tech version? Tom - Original Message - From: Appal Energy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 1:56 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Water in recovered

Re: [Biofuel] my poor processing

2006-04-27 Thread Appal Energy
1) if the temp goes up close to 150-155 will this in itself adversely effect the reaction? Yup. And if you're lucky, all you'll have is a mess to clean up. Methanol boils at 145*F. Your reactor contents would froth immediately upon the addition of the methoxide. Explosive fumes would

Re: [Biofuel] Animal Fat

2006-04-26 Thread Appal Energy
No real difference between the two, at least not relative to making fuel. The suggestion would be to use KOH instead of NaOH for starters. That should help end your thickening/soap issue. Don't jump the gun with large batches until you get the small stuff right if you're still having problems.

Re: [Biofuel] Animal Fat

2006-04-26 Thread Appal Energy
Stronger caustic agent? As in NaOH vs KOH? You're aware that saturated phats and oils tend to make harder soaps and that NaOH contributes to that end even further? Using the general method of self-mixing the methanol and caustic, as most grassroots and small scale brewers do, there is also the

Re: [Biofuel] Is newbiodiesel a site reliable?

2006-04-25 Thread Appal Energy
There is no such thing as secret information relative to manufacturing biodiesel. And only a two minute read of their index page reveals nothing too secret about their efforts. They want your money in exchange for information you can get for free anywhere on the net. Third graders could pull

Re: [Biofuel] Small oil press

2006-04-20 Thread Appal Energy
Naw Keith. The purpose of the putting the design up as open source is really to point out how all the co-/waste-products of biodiesel manufacture should be handled for the environment's benefit, rather than just tossing whatever in with a heap of brush or yard clippings as so many do. It's

Re: [Biofuel] my opinion of Northern Tool

2006-04-20 Thread Appal Energy
But wasn't he a communist? Communalist, I believe. Somehow the all got dropped out of the concept around the 20th century. Do you make biodiesel out of it? I'll leave it to the chemical engineers, but don't essential oils have high flashpoints? More of an oil that would combust in a diesel

Re: [Biofuel] Small oil press

2006-04-19 Thread Appal Energy
So who is Edwin trying to kid? Maybe, just maybe, he's not entirely aware of how relative the poverty income rate is in various regions. (A point to which you elude later in your reply.) 100 Euros isn't exactly the wealth of Fort Knox ($122 US), although it remains a relative matter. I

Re: [Biofuel] You were saying?

2006-04-19 Thread Appal Energy
Nice sarcasm there Bobby. Yeah, the US missed the opportunity to have someone in office that couldn't make a decision if the life and health of the nation depended on it. Would be interesting to see precisely what you base that remark on other than the pablam you've apparently nursed on

Re: [Biofuel] You were saying?

2006-04-19 Thread Appal Energy
midget here! Damn fine writing! fred On 5/10/06, *Appal Energy* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nice sarcasm there Bobby. Yeah, the US missed the opportunity to have someone in office that couldn't make a decision if the life and health of the nation

Re: [Biofuel] Thoughts on the Bush Admninistation

2006-04-19 Thread Appal Energy
Bobby, But if you are upset about illegal immigration or the lack of a future for social security, you can't rightfully blame Bush. You don't have a problem with taking a growing surplus (pre-Bush) and turning it into a deficit that will take 30 years to recover from (present Bush) and

Re: [Biofuel] my opinion of Northern Tool

2006-04-19 Thread Appal Energy
Hitchhikers welcome. No pachouli. Communist Jesus would have worn patchouli. Guess he must have been a Dead Head to boot. Todd Swearingen Keith Addison wrote: Thanks Keith. Keep on trucking! :-) Right on, Michael. Hitchhikers welcome. No pachouli. Keith (Anybody made

Re: [Biofuel] You were saying?

2006-04-19 Thread Appal Energy
Make that weed whacker. Appal Energy wrote: Well don't call me brilliant. Now I know what a glaive is where I didn't before - a poor man's week wacker, eh? Todd Swearingen Fred Finch wrote: Todd breaks out the verbal glaive while I grab the nearest thought of a broken beer bottle

Re: [Biofuel] pump position problem

2006-04-19 Thread Appal Energy
Is there anotherh alternative? Can anytone help? Depends on how your pump is plumbed in. If you can, put a standpipe with a valve in front of the intake on the pump. You can charge (fill) the standpipe with whatever liquid is appropriate for whatever you're trying to pump and use that charge

Re: [Biofuel] Creekstone farms

2006-04-19 Thread Appal Energy
Not really. See http://www.csmonitor.com/2006/0420/p02s01-woam.html Jason Katie wrote: Does anyone have any new news on creekstone's fight with the USDA over their testing of beef stock? it just kind of vanished after a while. ___ Biofuel

Re: [Biofuel] Mixer or agitator standard

2006-04-18 Thread Appal Energy
1/2 HP, 1,275 rpm with thermal switch and TEFC rated, accompanied by a 4, SS, prop-type, impeller would be more than adequate.. Setiyadi wrote: Does any one know the standard specs. of an agitator for 100 lt biodiesel reactor and catalyst preparation, please ? - Motor type and

Re: [Biofuel] Mixer or agitator standard

2006-04-18 Thread Appal Energy
I use a big old drill with a homemade paddle Hence the qualifier more than adequate. Todd Swearingen Mike Weaver wrote: I use a big old drill with a homemade paddle Appal Energy wrote: 1/2 HP, 1,275 rpm with thermal switch and TEFC rated, accompanied by a 4, SS, prop-type, impeller

Re: [Biofuel] Small oil press

2006-04-18 Thread Appal Energy
Sellout? Someone who wants to take a worthwhile mechanism and make a fair return on his efforts is more probable. Not everyone is into or can afford to live their life by the open source doctrine. Usually doing so just means that the masses drain the majority of your energies, you have an

[Biofuel] Drum Wrench was Re: Help needed.

2006-04-17 Thread Appal Energy
Drum Wrench: http://www.morsemfgco.com/products/drum-wrenches.htm http://www.sjdiscounttools.com/atd-5271.html Chris Tan wrote: Thanks everyone. I probably need a bung plug wrench which I don't have an idea of. I 'll go research on the net. Thanks, Chris -Original Message- From:

Re: [Biofuel] BYU professor's group accuses U.S.officialsoflyingabout 9/11

2006-04-15 Thread Appal Energy
No, I think this is an excellent case that proves that if there is no violence or the threat of violence then nothing gets accomplished. Ahhh.., the old inside every peaceful marcher is a rock-throwing, window-bashing, car-burning, cop-hating anarchist just itching to get out theory.

Re: [Biofuel] [SPAM] Re: BYU professor's group accuses U.S.officialsoflyingabout 9/11

2006-04-14 Thread Appal Energy
Gary, It sure would be appreciated if you would substantiate some of your claims. You imply in an almost sweeping manner that the marchers are the ones who provoke and instigate riotous behavior. Seems as if you're almost oblivious to the provocative actions of constabularies and misfits of

Re: [Biofuel] [SPAM] Re: [SPAM] Re: BYU professor's group accuses U.S.officialsoflyingabout 9/11

2006-04-14 Thread Appal Energy
people's time and almost a complete waste, other than exposing how singular your focus is, or that it's just chain jerking that you're about. Todd Swearingen Gary L. Green wrote: On 14 Apr 2006, at 11:05, Appal Energy wrote: Whenever MLK came to town you knew you either gave him what he

Re: [Biofuel] [SPAM] Re: BYU professor's group accuses U.S.officialsoflyingabout 9/11

2006-04-13 Thread Appal Energy
Whenever MLK came to town you knew you either gave him what he wanted or you would have violence on your hands. Violence at who's initiation? You mean to tell me those poor, backward, racist, white boys don't know how to behave and can't control themselves, so everyone else is supposed to

[Biofuel] The VW Rabbit is back.

2006-04-13 Thread Appal Energy
http://news.com.com/Photos+NY+Auto+Show+pulls+a+Rabbit+from+its+hat/2300-11389_3-6060841.html ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to

Re: [Biofuel] [Fwd: Re: [DCBiodieselcoop] Police Check Point - fuel dye test.]

2006-04-12 Thread Appal Energy
What does this mean for homebrewers? Not much. They're testing for the red dye found in off-road diesel. Common practice. They won't be sending any other info, requests or edicts to the driver who was stopped. And the day they start making drivers carry current receipts for the fuel in their

Re: [Biofuel] [Fwd: Re: [DCBiodieselcoop] Police Check Point - fuel dye test.]

2006-04-12 Thread Appal Energy
their actions by criminalizing the rebel. Mike */Appal Energy [EMAIL PROTECTED]/* wrote: What does this mean for homebrewers? Not much. They're testing for the red dye found in off-road diesel. Common practice. They won't be sending any other info, requests or edicts

Re: [Biofuel] Separating Glycerine

2006-04-11 Thread Appal Energy
... it somehow got distorted into work last year. I'm anxious to spray the potassium phosphate on the new compost pile I'm building. Patience is indeed a virtue at this point. Thanks again, Tom - Original Message - From: Appal Energy [EMAIL

Re: [Biofuel] Loose Change -- new video sheds new light on 9/11

2006-04-11 Thread Appal Energy
copy the url proper (not the entire hotlink) and paste it into your browser. Todd Swearingen Bob Carr wrote: Hi just went to check this movie out and got a warning that it could be a fraud attempt. Could this be the big brother intervention that other threads have warned about? I wonder?

Re: [Biofuel] [Fwd: [IP] Is the US preparing to bomb Iran?]

2006-04-10 Thread Appal Energy
According to our Commander in Thief., e hehhh he, I mean Chief, It's all wild speculation. He used those words today when referring to the article that ran some renowned rag this weekend. Oddly enough, wild speculation doesn't mean something isn't true. A lot of people have

Re: [Biofuel] sulphuric acids

2006-04-10 Thread Appal Energy
It should. Hopefully the other 7% is only water. Worth a try. Todd Swearingen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: in the foolproof method, as defined on the JTF web site, it is stated to use 95% sulphuric acid. This is hard to get these days for an individual and somewhat costly. however there is an

Re: [Biofuel] sulphuric acids

2006-04-10 Thread Appal Energy
Forgot. You'll definitely want to pull off the liquid phase that settles out of the esterification if using such an acid purity. You wouldn't be sending much water over to the base side. But why include that variable if you can avoid it? Todd Swearingen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: in the

Re: [Biofuel] storing biodiesel in veggie oil 55g drums

2006-04-10 Thread Appal Energy
If you're really picky/concerned, rinse the drum out with a half-gallon of biodiesel. Take the oil/biodiesel rinse from all fourteen drums and mix that in with your last batch of oil to be turned into biodiesel. Or don't. Your engine won't notice any difference between straight bio and bio

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