Re: [Biofuel] biodiesel test batch question

2008-04-30 Thread Thomas Kelly
@sustainablelists.org Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 8:13 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] biodiesel test batch question Thanks Tom and Keith for your responses. Have you not gotten complete reactions on 1L test batches run at 130F (or higher) in a blender for 20 - 30 minutes? You are using new, unused veg

Re: [Biofuel] biodiesel test batch question

2008-04-29 Thread James Pfeiffer
: Re: [Biofuel] biodiesel test batch question Methanol shouldn't vaporize until 148.46 deg F assuming the atmospheric pressure in you area is 760mmHg. That's the boiling point of methanol. It starts to evaporate at much lower temperatures than that. Temperature maintenance is one

Re: [Biofuel] biodiesel test batch question

2008-04-29 Thread Chris and Ramon Tan
@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] biodiesel test batch question Hey Mike. I'm a novice too but, for what it's worth, in my first 10 test batches in a blender I have gotten a pretty substantial temperature increase during mixing - between 10F and 20F increase depending on how long

Re: [Biofuel] biodiesel test batch question

2008-04-29 Thread Thomas Kelly
- Original Message - From: Steve Moran [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org; biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 4:30 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] biodiesel test batch question I do my test batches in a pot on a coleman stove out in the garage so I

Re: [Biofuel] biodiesel test batch question

2008-04-29 Thread Thomas Kelly
- Original Message - From: James Pfeiffer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org; biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 12:26 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] biodiesel test batch question Hey Mike. I'm a novice too but, for what it's worth

Re: [Biofuel] biodiesel test batch question

2008-04-29 Thread Steve Moran
. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thomas Kelly Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 5:36 AM To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] biodiesel test batch question Steve, Have your test batches passed the quality test? I do my

Re: [Biofuel] biodiesel test batch question

2008-04-29 Thread Keith Addison
Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 12:49:05 +0900 To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Biofuel] biodiesel test batch question Methanol shouldn't vaporize until 148.46 deg F assuming the atmospheric pressure in you area is 760mmHg. That's the boiling point

Re: [Biofuel] biodiesel test batch question

2008-04-29 Thread mike
Thanks Jim, that is very helpful and I'll be sure to monitor my temps closely as I blend. I thought maybe there was a chance that it would hold the same temp for that reason, but would never have guessed a temp increase. James Pfeiffer wrote: Hey Mike. I'm a novice too but, for what it's

Re: [Biofuel] biodiesel test batch question

2008-04-29 Thread mike
Hey thanks everyone for the advice, I'll try the hot water bath idea and hope for the best, just hope I don't get it too hot and evaporate my methanol... I'd really like for my first test batch to come out good. As for my atmospheric pressure, im not sure what it is, but I live in NW FL so i'm

Re: [Biofuel] biodiesel test batch question

2008-04-29 Thread Keith Addison
Hello Mike Hey thanks everyone for the advice, I'll try the hot water bath idea and hope for the best, just hope I don't get it too hot and evaporate my methanol... I'd really like for my first test batch to come out good. As for my atmospheric pressure, im not sure what it is, but I live in NW

Re: [Biofuel] biodiesel test batch question

2008-04-29 Thread mike
I was just gonna take it out of digest mode and have everything from this list go straight to a folder that I just made but I think that's basically what the link is saying to do, so thanks :) Keith Addison wrote: div class=moz-text-flowed style=font-family: -moz-fixedHello Mike Hey

Re: [Biofuel] biodiesel test batch question

2008-04-29 Thread James Pfeiffer
a different methanol supply to see if that improves results. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 07:56:31 -0400 Subject: Re: [Biofuel] biodiesel test batch question Jim, As I write this email, I'm running another test batch

Re: [Biofuel] biodiesel test batch question

2008-04-29 Thread kelly coleman
] To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] biodiesel test batch question Thanks Jim, that is very helpful and I'll be sure to monitor my temps closely as I blend. I thought maybe there was a chance that it would hold the same temp for that reason, but would never have guessed

Re: [Biofuel] biodiesel test batch question

2008-04-29 Thread kelly coleman
a different methanol supply to see if that improves results.From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 07:56:31 -0400 Subject: Re: [Biofuel] biodiesel test batch question Jim, As I write this email, I'm running another test batch. the oil

Re: [Biofuel] biodiesel test batch question

2008-04-29 Thread Keith Addison
I was just gonna take it out of digest mode and have everything from this list go straight to a folder that I just made Much better. Best Keith but I think that's basically what the link is saying to do, so thanks :) Keith Addison wrote: div class=moz-text-flowed style=font-family:

[Biofuel] biodiesel test batch question

2008-04-28 Thread mike
Hello everyone, my first post i want to apologize if this has been answered, but I have searched the archives and relevant sites without finding a clear answer. I've been reading the j2f howto for doing my first test batch with unused veg oil and a blender. I see that I'm suppose to pre-heat

Re: [Biofuel] biodiesel test batch question

2008-04-28 Thread Thomas Kelly
- Original Message - From: mike [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 3:57 PM Subject: [Biofuel] biodiesel test batch question Hello everyone, my first post i want to apologize if this has been answered, but I have searched the archives

Re: [Biofuel] biodiesel test batch question

2008-04-28 Thread Steve Moran
To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] biodiesel test batch question Mike, Test batches can be difficult .. well worth the effort. Blenders provide excellent agitation, but it is difficult to maintain the proper temp. PET bottles allow one to maintain temp better

Re: [Biofuel] biodiesel test batch question

2008-04-28 Thread Steve Moran
I do my test batches in a pot on a coleman stove out in the garage so I can maintain the temp. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of mike Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 1:58 PM To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: [Biofuel] biodiesel test

Re: [Biofuel] biodiesel test batch question

2008-04-28 Thread Chris and Ramon Tan
] On Behalf Of mike Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 11:58 AM To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: [Biofuel] biodiesel test batch question Hello everyone, my first post i want to apologize if this has been answered, but I have searched the archives and relevant sites without finding a clear

Re: [Biofuel] biodiesel test batch question

2008-04-28 Thread Chris and Ramon Tan
@sustainablelists.org; sustainablelorgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] biodiesel test batch question I think (but I'm not sure) that methanol will evaporate at 140, is that correct? If it is, then keeping the temp below that would become very important too

Re: [Biofuel] biodiesel test batch question

2008-04-28 Thread Keith Addison
@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] biodiesel test batch question I think (but I'm not sure) that methanol will evaporate at 140, is that correct? If it is, then keeping the temp below that would become very important too. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED