Re: [Biofuel] Did David Pimentel win?

2007-12-25 Thread Thomas Kelly
there. Tom - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2007 12:51 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Did David Pimentel win? Hi Tom Great! What a good read, thankyou! All best Keith Hi All

Re: [Biofuel] Did David Pimentel win?

2007-12-22 Thread keith
, December 16, 2007 1:44 PM Subject: [Biofuel] Did David Pimentel win? Hello all It seems obvious that organic farms should be producing their own renewable fuel and energy rather than using fossil fuels, but I think very few of them do so, at least in the industrialised countries. snip

Re: [Biofuel] Did David Pimentel win?

2007-12-20 Thread Thomas Kelly
Subject: [Biofuel] Did David Pimentel win? Hello all It seems obvious that organic farms should be producing their own renewable fuel and energy rather than using fossil fuels, but I think very few of them do so, at least in the industrialised countries. It's only a matter of time before

Re: [Biofuel] Did David Pimentel win?

2007-12-20 Thread keith
Hi Dawie But note how I still haven't really captured the point I'm trying to make? I fear it'll take a book. :-) I think you did pretty well. Sorry about the old girlfriend though. Nothing wrong with an 80mpg car in itself. It's just that, produced by the current industrial system, while it

Re: [Biofuel] Did David Pimentel win?

2007-12-19 Thread Chris Burck
dawie, you're definitely on the right track. big business has done a pretty good job of managing the political process for the past century or more. since viet mam they've gotten scary good. you could call your book everything you never wanted to know about politics and knew better than to ask.

Re: [Biofuel] Did David Pimentel win?

2007-12-18 Thread Dawie Coetzee
them stop us with this cynical spin campaign? Best Keith - Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Sunday, 16 December, 2007 8:44:53 PM Subject: [Biofuel] Did David Pimentel win? Hello all It seems obvious that organic farms

Re: [Biofuel] Did David Pimentel win?

2007-12-18 Thread keith
-Dawie - Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Tuesday, 18 December, 2007 9:39:45 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Did David Pimentel win? Hi Dawie My first thought is that big oil etc. don't want home biofuel-makers

Re: [Biofuel] Did David Pimentel win?

2007-12-18 Thread Dawie Coetzee
Hi Keith snip The aim ought not be 80mpg but an 80% reduction in manufacturing output at least. Yes! - but shouldn't it be both? snip I read your message before setting off on my morning constitutional, and began my walk trying to figure out what bothers me about the 80mpg target. I've

Re: [Biofuel] Did David Pimentel win?

2007-12-17 Thread Dawie Coetzee
. -D - Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Sunday, 16 December, 2007 8:44:53 PM Subject: [Biofuel] Did David Pimentel win? Hello all It seems obvious that organic farms should be producing their own renewable fuel and energy

Re: [Biofuel] Did David Pimentel win?

2007-12-17 Thread keith
stop us with this cynical spin campaign? Best Keith - Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Sunday, 16 December, 2007 8:44:53 PM Subject: [Biofuel] Did David Pimentel win? Hello all It seems obvious that organic farms should

[Biofuel] Did David Pimentel win?

2007-12-16 Thread keith
Hello all It seems obvious that organic farms should be producing their own renewable fuel and energy rather than using fossil fuels, but I think very few of them do so, at least in the industrialised countries. It's only a matter of time before locavore-style green consumers who buy their