[swinog] SwiNOG#38 > All presentations and Videos are online!

[Steven Glogger via swinog]

Hi everyone

We've worked night and day to bring you this:

All SwiNOG #38 Videos and presentations are online!

Either on the website:
https://www.swinog.ch/meetings/swinog38/

Or just watch the youtube playlist:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLMP2Spqss4IoHeTwSBLwdVpvkDe1bgg2V
[https://i.ytimg.com/vi/YxVfTn7hCVM/hqdefault.jpg?sqp=-oaymwEWCKgBEF5IWvKriqkDCQgBFQAAiEIYAQ===AOn4CLCV7fBgFWbZ5PK7NQOhWfNXa05EGA_since_epoch=19531]
SwiNOG 
#38
All published videos from SwiNOG#38 Meeting 21.06.2023 in Berne
www.youtube.com


greetings

-steven

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[swinog] ### SwiNOG #38 - Agenda ###

[Simon Ryf via swinog]

Dear SwiNOG community,

we could finally compile the agenda for the upcoming SwiNOG #38 – June 
Wednesday 21st
Have a look at https://www.swinog.ch/meetings/swinog38/
There is still time to https://register.swinog.ch/ if you have not done it 
already.


We have a super packed agenda. On the other hand,

I’m very happy with all the exciting speeches which have made it to the final 
list.



A few last things to wrap up and then we’re ready to welcome you again in ~ 2 
weeks.



Looking forward to seeing many of you.



SwiNOG Core Team
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[swinog] SwiNOG #38 - Register NOW for 21.06.2023

[Simon Ryf via swinog]

Dear SwiNOG community,

The speeches are rolling in, sponsors are on their way to the ship deck and 
it’s looking good for Wednesday 21st of June.

Please register your seat now: https://register.swinog.ch/

We’ll also try to get you the first few entries in the agenda soon.

Important Dates for https://www.swinog.ch/meetings/swinog38/:

02.02.2023 Call for Papers
01.03.2023 Registration opens
02.06.2023 Call for Papers closing
05.06.2023 Final publication of agenda
09.06.2023 Registration closes
16.06.2023 Deadline for all slides
21.06.2023 Meeting Day

Greetings
SwiNOG Core Team
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[swinog] ##### SwiNOG #38 (June 21st 2023) - Call for Papers #####

[Simon Ryf via swinog]

Sorry June 21st is the correct day – as also written here 
https://www.swinog.ch/meetings/swinog38/:

From: Simon Ryf 
Date: Thursday, 2 February 2023 at 21:47
To: SwiNOG Mailinglist 
Subject: # SwiNOG #38 - Call for Papers #
Dear SwiNOG community,

Please forward me to whomever you think should know about our community.

This is the official Call for Paper email. Please submit your proposal via 
https://www.swinog.ch/cfp/
The 38th meeting of the Swiss Network Operators Group (SwiNOG) will be held in 
Berne on top of the Gurten on Wednesday June 21st, 2023.

Important Dates for https://www.swinog.ch/meetings/swinog38/:
02.02.2023 Call for Papers
01.03.2023 Registration opens
02.06.2023 Call for Papers closing
05.06.2023 Final publication of agenda
09.06.2023 Registration closes
16.06.2023 Deadline for all slides
21.06.2022 Meeting Day

Topics for Presentations/Talks

Please re-submit your paper if you're still up with a topic which you have 
submitted during … yeah whatever you call this period…!

The number and length of presentations per session is not fixed, although we 
prefer the length of the presentations to be between 5 to 45 minutes. Here is a 
non-exhaustive list of typical SwiNOG meeting topics:

  *   Security, DDOS Mitigation,
  *   IPv6
  *   Open-Source tools and interesting Github projects
  *   International view of the internet (incidents, outages, measurements)
  *   Routing
  *   Peering
  *   Server applications (DNS, Web, etc.)
  *   Legal issues (BÜPF, etc.)
  *   Telecommunication politics (Net Neutrality, Incumbent monopoly, etc.)
  *   Off-Topic if you think the audience will enjoy

  *   Feel free to talk to us about any kind of topic and collaboration! Or you 
can always start a discussion on the list - I'm sure people join in. Or join 
our telegram group at https://t.me/SWINOG

Language of Slides and Talks
The whole day will be hold in English, therefore we kindly ask you to produce 
your presentation in English.

Submission Guidelines
All submissions must have a strong technical bias (or be completely off topic) 
and must not be promotional for your employer.
Please remember that your presentations should be suitable for a target 
audience of technicians from varied backgrounds, working for companies whose 
sizes may vary considerably.
To submit a proposal for a presentation, we request that you to fill in the 
form at https://www.swinog.ch/cfp/

We also welcome suggestions for specific presentations which you feel would be 
valuable to the SwiNOG community.
Please be aware that your presentation will be published on the SwiNOG website 
after the event. We can publish modified slides if requested - it might be that 
some confidential data will be presented by you which are not intended for 
publication on the internet.

Greetings,
Simon
SwiNOG Core Team


General Information (SwiNOG Community)
The Swiss Network Operators Group (SwiNOG) is an informal group of people who 
are concerned with engineering and operation of the Swiss Internet.
SwiNOG exists to enhance the quality of Internet services available in 
Switzerland. It does this by fostering the free exchange of technical ideas and 
information between different companies and organisations.
SwiNOG is a community for professionals who are operating, designing, or 
researching the Internet. It provides a technical forum where those working on, 
with and for the Internet can come together to solve problems with every aspect 
of their (net)work.
The meeting is designed to provide an opportunity for the exchange of 
information among network operators, engineers, researchers, and other 
professionals close to the network community.

More information about SwiNOG can be found at http://www.swinog.ch/, Facebook, 
Xing,
Information about the meeting will be published at 
http://www.swinog.ch/meetings/swinog38/

General Information (SwiNOG Organisation)
The SwiNOG Organisation Association is a non-profit association under article 
60 and further of the swiss civil law. It manages the SwiNOG community 
ressources (domain, web, mailing-lists, etc..) and organises SwiNOG meetings.

Contact:
SwiNOG Organisation
8000 Zurich
Switzerland

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[swinog] ##### SwiNOG #38 - Call for Papers #####

[Simon Ryf via swinog]

Dear SwiNOG community,

Please forward me to whomever you think should know about our community.

This is the official Call for Paper email. Please submit your proposal via 
https://www.swinog.ch/cfp/
The 38th meeting of the Swiss Network Operators Group (SwiNOG) will be held in 
Berne on top of the Gurten on Wednesday June 21st, 2023.

Important Dates for https://www.swinog.ch/meetings/swinog38/:
02.02.2023 Call for Papers
01.03.2023 Registration opens
02.06.2023 Call for Papers closing
05.06.2023 Final publication of agenda
09.06.2023 Registration closes
16.06.2023 Deadline for all slides
30.06.2022 Meeting Day

Topics for Presentations/Talks

Please re-submit your paper if you're still up with a topic which you have 
submitted during … yeah whatever you call this period…!

The number and length of presentations per session is not fixed, although we 
prefer the length of the presentations to be between 5 to 45 minutes. Here is a 
non-exhaustive list of typical SwiNOG meeting topics:

  *   Security, DDOS Mitigation,
  *   IPv6
  *   Open-Source tools and interesting Github projects
  *   International view of the internet (incidents, outages, measurements)
  *   Routing
  *   Peering
  *   Server applications (DNS, Web, etc.)
  *   Legal issues (BÜPF, etc.)
  *   Telecommunication politics (Net Neutrality, Incumbent monopoly, etc.)
  *   Off-Topic if you think the audience will enjoy

  *   Feel free to talk to us about any kind of topic and collaboration! Or you 
can always start a discussion on the list - I'm sure people join in. Or join 
our telegram group at https://t.me/SWINOG

Language of Slides and Talks
The whole day will be hold in English, therefore we kindly ask you to produce 
your presentation in English.

Submission Guidelines
All submissions must have a strong technical bias (or be completely off topic) 
and must not be promotional for your employer.
Please remember that your presentations should be suitable for a target 
audience of technicians from varied backgrounds, working for companies whose 
sizes may vary considerably.
To submit a proposal for a presentation, we request that you to fill in the 
form at https://www.swinog.ch/cfp/

We also welcome suggestions for specific presentations which you feel would be 
valuable to the SwiNOG community.
Please be aware that your presentation will be published on the SwiNOG website 
after the event. We can publish modified slides if requested - it might be that 
some confidential data will be presented by you which are not intended for 
publication on the internet.

Greetings,
Simon
SwiNOG Core Team


General Information (SwiNOG Community)
The Swiss Network Operators Group (SwiNOG) is an informal group of people who 
are concerned with engineering and operation of the Swiss Internet.
SwiNOG exists to enhance the quality of Internet services available in 
Switzerland. It does this by fostering the free exchange of technical ideas and 
information between different companies and organisations.
SwiNOG is a community for professionals who are operating, designing, or 
researching the Internet. It provides a technical forum where those working on, 
with and for the Internet can come together to solve problems with every aspect 
of their (net)work.
The meeting is designed to provide an opportunity for the exchange of 
information among network operators, engineers, researchers, and other 
professionals close to the network community.

More information about SwiNOG can be found at http://www.swinog.ch/, Facebook, 
Xing,
Information about the meeting will be published at 
http://www.swinog.ch/meetings/swinog38/

General Information (SwiNOG Organisation)
The SwiNOG Organisation Association is a non-profit association under article 
60 and further of the swiss civil law. It manages the SwiNOG community 
ressources (domain, web, mailing-lists, etc..) and organises SwiNOG meetings.

Contact:
SwiNOG Organisation
8000 Zurich
Switzerland

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[swinog] SWINOG Beers - Zurich, 1st December 2022

[Massimiliano Stucchi via swinog]

Hi everyone,

following the event from last week in Geneva, we are now organising 
swinog beers in Zurich for the 1st of December.


We will be meeting at Paddy Reilly's 
(https://goo.gl/maps/M4Qqvka1FaE1yX1A7) at 17:30 on Thursday, December 1st.


Everyone is welcome and there's no need to pre-register, although if you 
 send me an email to let me know of your intentions, it will help in 
understanding how big of a group we will be.


The formula is simple: just show up and enjoy meeting other networkers. 
Everyone pays for his/her own drinks and food.


For any question, please feel free to get in touch with me.

I hope to see many of you at the event!

Ciao!

--
Massimiliano Stucchi
MS16801-RIPE
Twitter: @stucchimax
Telegram: https://t.me/stucchimax


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[swinog] SWINOG Beers - Geneva 10th November

[Massimiliano Stucchi]

Hi everyone,

together with Will (PorCus), and after some discussions in Belgrade at 
RIPE85 last week, we have decided to organise some "Swinog Beers" in 
Geneva on the 10th of November.


We will be meeting at Mulligan's (https://goo.gl/maps/VYm7T8P9uQ2dCTqs8) 
at around 17:30 on Thursday.


Everyone is welcome and there's no need to pre-register, although if you 
send me an email to let me know of your intentions, it will help in 
understanding how big of a group we will be.


The formula is simple: just show up and enjoy meeting other networkers. 
Everyone pays for his/her own drinks and food.


For any question, please feel free to get in touch with me.

I hope to see many of you next week!

Ciao!

PS: We will have a similar event in Zurich in a few weeks

--
Massimiliano Stucchi
MS16801-RIPE
Twitter: @stucchimax
Telegram: https://t.me/stucchimax


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[swinog] SwiNOG #38 - 01.09.2022 - Cancellation

[Simon Ryf via swinog]

Dear SwiNOG Community,

Sadly we have to cancel SwiNOG #38 / 01.09.2022.
Despite the efforts in the last weeks we could neither find enough sponsors nor 
enough content/speeches to organize a full day meeting at the quality you are 
used to. We were working hard to find solutions, but today we had to make the 
difficult decision to cancel the event.

We appologize for this sad announcement and will communicate a new date for 
spring 2023 as soon as possible. In the meantime we are disucssing how we can 
improve the process internally and motivate more sponsors and speakers for 
SwiNOG. Of course we would be very happy for input from the community as in the 
end: this is your event.

Thank you for your understanding and thank you to all that tried their best to 
make the event happen.

Best Regards
SwiNOG Core Team
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[swinog] ##### SwiNOG #38 - Call for Papers #####

[Simon Ryf via swinog]

Dear SwiNOG community,

Please forward me to whomever you think should now about our community.

This is the official Call for Paper email. Please submit your proposal via 
https://www.swinog.ch/cfp/
The 38th meeting of the Swiss Network Operators Group (SwiNOG) will be held in 
Berne on top of the Gurten on Thursday September 1st 2022.

Important Dates for https://www.swinog.ch/meetings/swinog38/:
20.07.2022 Call for Papers
02.08.2022 Registration opens
19.08.2022 Call for Papers closing
22.08.2022 Final publication of agenda
25.08.2022 Registration closes
26.08.2022 Deadline for all slides
01.09.2022 Meeting Day

Topics for Presentations/Talks

Please re-submit your paper if you're still up with a topic which you have 
submitted during … yeah whatever you call this period…!

The number and length of presentations per session is not fixed, although we 
prefer the length of the presentations to be between 5 to 45 minutes. Here is a 
non-exhaustive list of typical SwiNOG meeting topics:

  *   Security, DDOS Mitigation,
  *   IPv6
  *   Open-Source tools and interesting Github projects
  *   International view of the internet (incidents, outages, measurements)
  *   Routing
  *   Peering
  *   Server applications (DNS, Web, etc.)
  *   Legal issues (BÜPF, etc.)
  *   Telecommunication politics (Net Neutrality, Incumbent monopoly, etc.)
  *   Off-Topic if you think the audience will enjoy


  *   Feel free to talk to us about any kind of topic and collaboration! Or you 
can always start a discussion on the list - I'm sure people join in. Or join 
our telegram group at https://t.me/SWINOG

Language of Slides and Talks
The whole day will be hold in English, therefore we kindly ask you to produce 
your presentation in English.

Submission Guidelines
All submissions must have a strong technical bias (or be completely off topic) 
and must not be promotional for your employer.
Please remember that your presentations should be suitable for a target 
audience of technicians from varied backgrounds, working for companies whose 
sizes may vary considerably.
To submit a proposal for a presentation, we request that you to fill in the 
form at https://www.swinog.ch/cfp/

We also welcome suggestions for specific presentations which you feel would be 
valuable to the SwiNOG community.
Please be aware that your presentation will be published on the SwiNOG website 
after the event. We can publish modified slides if requested - it might be that 
some confidential data will be presented by you which are not intended for 
publication on the internet.

Greetings,
Simon
SwiNOG Core Team


General Information (SwiNOG Community)
The Swiss Network Operators Group (SwiNOG) is an informal group of people who 
are concerned with engineering and operation of the Swiss Internet.
SwiNOG exists to enhance the quality of Internet services available in 
Switzerland. It does this by fostering the free exchange of technical ideas and 
information between different companies and organisations.
SwiNOG is a community for professionals who are operating, designing, or 
researching the Internet. It provides a technical forum where those working on, 
with and for the Internet can come together to solve problems with every aspect 
of their (net)work.
The meeting is designed to provide an opportunity for the exchange of 
information among network operators, engineers, researchers, and other 
professionals close to the network community.

More information about SwiNOG can be found at http://www.swinog.ch/, Facebook, 
Xing,
Information about the meeting will be published at 
http://www.swinog.ch/meetings/swinog38/

General Information (SwiNOG Organisation)
The SwiNOG Organisation Association is a non-profit association under article 
60 and further of the swiss civil law. It manages the SwiNOG community 
ressources (domain, web, mailing-lists, etc..) and organises SwiNOG meetings.

Contact:
SwiNOG Organisation
8000 Zurich
Switzerland

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[swinog] ## SwiNOG #37 - Change of Agenda

[Simon Ryf]

Dear Speakers, dear Participants

Because of the recently announced travel/quarantine restrictions we had to 
adapt the agenda.
Unfortunately, Massimo Candela with "BGPalerter & RPKI" and Benoit Claise with 
"Intent Assurance" cannot join us on Thursday.

Please see the updated Agenda: https://www.swinog.ch/meetings/swinog37/

@All Speakers:
Could you drop me a "noted and OK" email so I know that you know your new 
schedule? Thank you.

Stay healthy and hope to see you soon on Thursday at SwiNOG #37

Best regards
SwiNOG Core Team

---

Dear SwiNOG #37 Participant,
Please find general information about the SwiNOG #37 meeting below.

Date and Agenda
Date: 02.12.2021
Registration: 08h15 - 09h15
Agenda: https://www.swinog.ch/meetings/swinog37/

Coronavirus - Measures and ordinances

3G (vaccinated / cured / tested) rules are applied for the event.
See further info here: 
https://www.bag.admin.ch/bag/en/home/krankheiten/ausbrueche-epidemien-pandemien/aktuelle-ausbrueche-epidemien/novel-cov/massnahmen-des-bundes.html

Update November 26th 2021: The Canton of Berne stated, that beside the 
certificate obligation there is now a requirement to wear masks (except 
speakers).
See more details here: 
https://www.besondere-lage.sites.be.ch/de/start.html?newsID=ca18bb65-66a5-46d7-9d57-c5b17050924d

-> Please have your certificate and identification (ID, Passport or 
Drivers-License) ready when entering / registering at the Event.
If you have any doubts if your certificate and/or identification is valid, 
please contact us before the meeting day.

Please note that the well-being and health of every participant is our highest 
priority. Please help and support us all by considering below:

  *   If you feel sick, stay at home! You'll get a full refund.
  *   If you cannot ID yourself or do not have a valid certificate you are NOT 
allowed to enter the Building, no excuses made.
  *   Please wear your batch at all times. (Batch == valid cert)
  *   Check the weather and have appropriate clothing. During breaks and the 
social event we're probably more often outside as in other years.

Location and Travel Info

Location - Gurtenpark, Bern:
https://www.gurtenpark.ch/de-CH/Service-Pages/Anreise
https://goo.gl/maps/kuxy4QUrcoy

By Car:
You can park at the Gurtenbahn ground Station.
Here: https://goo.gl/maps/SFBuTRL52Xdz8mW36
-> Then take the Gurtenbahn

By Train:
>From Bern main station you may take below (see https://sbb.ch -> To: )
- S-Bahn S3 Belp and exit at Wabern station (-> To: Köniz, Gurtenbahn)
- Tram 9 (Wabern) and exit at Gurtenbahn stop (-> To: Wabern, Gurtenbahn)
-> Then take the Gurtenbahn
Gurtenbahn / Cable Rail:
The Gurtenbahn ist the only way (besides walking) to the Gurtenpark.
Map of the ground Station: https://goo.gl/maps/5uSKtgbianM2
SwiNOG participants DO NOT need to pay: Tell the clerk at the Ticketoffice
that you're participating SwiNOG and you get a free Ticket.
-> Please keep your Ticket to get back down.


See you at SwiNOG #37!

Best regards
SwiNOG Core Team


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Re: [swinog] [swinog-core] ## SwiNOG #37 - Participant Info ##

[Simon Ryf]

Hi Benoit,

I'm very sorry to hear that.
To be honest we've never done remote presentations and because we already have 
a tight schedule, I hope it is not too draconic to put you to the next meeting.
I'm juggling with lots of stuff which is different this time and I'm a bit 
anxious to put more on my list which could fail :-/

I would be delighted if I could write you (hopefully soon) for a presentation 
on SwiNOG #38 (whatever topic).

Besides the entry restrictions from Belgium the list is growing fast and just 
today government announced that they will take further measures tomorrow. So 
not even clear what will hit us in the face tomorrow.

Br
Simon



From: Steven Glogger 
Date: Monday, 29 November 2021 at 13:28
To: Benoit Claise 
Cc: Simon Ryf , swinog-c...@swinog.ch 
, swinog@lists.swinog.ch , 
Pierre Vander Vorst , thomas.g...@swisscom.com 

Subject: Re: [swinog-core] ## SwiNOG #37 - Participant Info ##
Hi Benoit

Simon will get back to you regarding the presentation and how to proceed.
@Pierre: As you Paid and cannot come due to higher force please decide here 
what we should do with your money (e.g. donation, refund, …) > 
https://www.swinog.ch/refund/

greetings
-steven


Am 29.11.2021 um 13:09 schrieb Benoit Claise 
mailto:benoit.cla...@huawei.com>>:

Dear SwiNOG organizers,

We (Pierre Vander Vorst and I) have a problem, coming from Belgium to attend 
SwiNOG 37
https://www.bag.admin.ch/bag/fr/home/das-bag/aktuell/medienmitteilungen.msg-id-86143.html
En outre, à partir du 26 novembre 2021, à 20 h, les personnes entrant en Suisse 
en provenance de cette région, de Hong Kong, d’Israël et de la Belgique doivent 
présenter un test COVID-19 négatif et se placer en quarantaine durant dix jours.


Bei der Einreise aus der Region Südafrika, aus Hongkong, Israel und Belgien 
müssen zudem alle Personen ab 26.11.2021, 20 Uhr, einen negativen Covid-19-Test 
vorlegen und sich für 10 Tage in Quarantäne begeben
https://www.bag.admin.ch/
 is an official web site, as this is referred from the 
https://www.eda.admin.ch/countries/belgium/en/home/representations/embassy.htm
This decision was taken last Friday.

Very sorry about the inconvenience. I guess we share the same frustration, 
trying to organize meetings during these pandemic times.

If there is a possibility for me to present (and attend) remotely, I'm 
obviously available. Let me know.

Regards, Benoit

Dear SwiNOG #37 Participant,
Please find general information about the SwiNOG #37 meeting below.

Date and Agenda
Date: 02.12.2021
Registration: 08h15 - 09h15
Agenda: https://www.swinog.ch/meetings/swinog37/

Coronavirus - Measures and ordinances

3G (vaccinated / cured / tested) rules are applied for the event.
See further info here: 
https://www.bag.admin.ch/bag/en/home/krankheiten/ausbrueche-epidemien-pandemien/aktuelle-ausbrueche-epidemien/novel-cov/massnahmen-des-bundes.html

Update November 26th 2021: The Canton of Berne stated, that beside the 
certificate obligation there is now a requirement to wear masks (except 
speakers).
See more details here: 
https://www.besondere-lage.sites.be.ch/de/start.html?newsID=ca18bb65-66a5-46d7-9d57-c5b17050924d

-> Please have your certificate and identification (ID, Passport or 
Drivers-License) ready when entering / registering at the Event.
If you have any doubts if your certificate and/or identification is valid, 
please contact us before the meeting day.

Please note that the well-being and health of every participant is our highest 
priority. Please help and support us all by considering below:

  *   If you feel sick, stay at home! You'll get a full refund.
  *   If you cannot ID yourself or do not have a valid certificate you are NOT 
allowed to enter the Building, no 

Re: [swinog] [swinog-core] ## SwiNOG #37 - Participant Info ##

[Steven Glogger]

Hi Benoit

Simon will get back to you regarding the presentation and how to proceed.
@Pierre: As you Paid and cannot come due to higher force please decide here 
what we should do with your money (e.g. donation, refund, …) > 
https://www.swinog.ch/refund/ 

greetings
-steven

> Am 29.11.2021 um 13:09 schrieb Benoit Claise :
> 
> Dear SwiNOG organizers,
> 
> We (Pierre Vander Vorst and I) have a problem, coming from Belgium to attend 
> SwiNOG 37
> https://www.bag.admin.ch/bag/fr/home/das-bag/aktuell/medienmitteilungen.msg-id-86143.html
>  
> 
> En outre, à partir du 26 novembre 2021, à 20 h, les personnes entrant en 
> Suisse en provenance de cette région, de Hong Kong, d’Israël et de la 
> Belgique doivent présenter un test COVID-19 négatif et se placer en 
> quarantaine durant dix jours.
> 
> 
> Bei der Einreise aus der Region Südafrika, aus Hongkong, Israel und Belgien 
> müssen zudem alle Personen ab 26.11.2021, 20 Uhr, einen negativen 
> Covid-19-Test vorlegen und sich für 10 Tage in Quarantäne begeben
> 
> https://www.bag.admin.ch/ 
> 
>  is an official web site, as this is referred from the 
> https://www.eda.admin.ch/countries/belgium/en/home/representations/embassy.htm
>  
> 
> This decision was taken last Friday.
> 
> Very sorry about the inconvenience. I guess we share the same frustration, 
> trying to organize meetings during these pandemic times.
> 
> If there is a possibility for me to present (and attend) remotely, I'm 
> obviously available. Let me know.
> 
> Regards, Benoit
>> Dear SwiNOG #37 Participant,
>> Please find general information about the SwiNOG #37 meeting below.
>>  
>> Date and Agenda
>> Date: 02.12.2021
>> Registration: 08h15 - 09h15
>> Agenda: https://www.swinog.ch/meetings/swinog37/ 
>> 
>>  
>> Coronavirus - Measures and ordinances
>>  
>> 3G (vaccinated / cured / tested) rules are applied for the event.
>> See further info here: 
>> https://www.bag.admin.ch/bag/en/home/krankheiten/ausbrueche-epidemien-pandemien/aktuelle-ausbrueche-epidemien/novel-cov/massnahmen-des-bundes.html
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> Update November 26th 2021: The Canton of Berne stated, that beside the 
>> certificate obligation there is now a requirement to wear masks (except 
>> speakers).
>> See more details here: 
>> https://www.besondere-lage.sites.be.ch/de/start.html?newsID=ca18bb65-66a5-46d7-9d57-c5b17050924d
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> -> Please have your certificate and identification (ID, Passport or 
>> Drivers-License) ready when entering / registering at the Event.
>> If you have any doubts if your certificate and/or identification is valid, 
>> please contact us before the meeting day.
>>  
>> Please note that the well-being and health of every participant is our 
>> highest priority. Please help and support us all by considering below:
>> If you feel sick, stay at home! You'll get a full refund.
>> If you cannot ID yourself or do not have a valid certificate you are NOT 
>> allowed to enter the Building, no excuses made.
>> Please wear your batch at all times. (Batch == valid cert)
>> Check the weather and have appropriate clothing. During breaks and the 
>> social event we're probably more often outside as in other years.
>>  
>> Location and Travel Info
>>  
>> Location - Gurtenpark, Bern:
>> https://www.gurtenpark.ch/de-CH/Service-Pages/Anreise 
>> 
>> https://goo.gl/maps/kuxy4QUrcoy 
>>  
>> By Car:
>> 

[swinog] ## SwiNOG #37 - Participant Info ##

[Simon Ryf]

Dear SwiNOG #37 Participant,
Please find general information about the SwiNOG #37 meeting below.

Date and Agenda
Date: 02.12.2021
Registration: 08h15 - 09h15
Agenda: https://www.swinog.ch/meetings/swinog37/

Coronavirus - Measures and ordinances

3G (vaccinated / cured / tested) rules are applied for the event.
See further info here: 
https://www.bag.admin.ch/bag/en/home/krankheiten/ausbrueche-epidemien-pandemien/aktuelle-ausbrueche-epidemien/novel-cov/massnahmen-des-bundes.html

Update November 26th 2021: The Canton of Berne stated, that beside the 
certificate obligation there is now a requirement to wear masks (except 
speakers).
See more details here: 
https://www.besondere-lage.sites.be.ch/de/start.html?newsID=ca18bb65-66a5-46d7-9d57-c5b17050924d

-> Please have your certificate and identification (ID, Passport or 
Drivers-License) ready when entering / registering at the Event.
If you have any doubts if your certificate and/or identification is valid, 
please contact us before the meeting day.

Please note that the well-being and health of every participant is our highest 
priority. Please help and support us all by considering below:

  *   If you feel sick, stay at home! You'll get a full refund.
  *   If you cannot ID yourself or do not have a valid certificate you are NOT 
allowed to enter the Building, no excuses made.
  *   Please wear your batch at all times. (Batch == valid cert)
  *   Check the weather and have appropriate clothing. During breaks and the 
social event we're probably more often outside as in other years.

Location and Travel Info

Location - Gurtenpark, Bern:
https://www.gurtenpark.ch/de-CH/Service-Pages/Anreise
https://goo.gl/maps/kuxy4QUrcoy

By Car:
You can park at the Gurtenbahn ground Station.
Here: https://goo.gl/maps/SFBuTRL52Xdz8mW36
-> Then take the Gurtenbahn

By Train:
>From Bern main station you may take below (see https://sbb.ch -> To: )
- S-Bahn S3 Belp and exit at Wabern station (-> To: Köniz, Gurtenbahn)
- Tram 9 (Wabern) and exit at Gurtenbahn stop (-> To: Wabern, Gurtenbahn)
-> Then take the Gurtenbahn
Gurtenbahn / Cable Rail:
The Gurtenbahn ist the only way (besides walking) to the Gurtenpark.
Map of the ground Station: https://goo.gl/maps/5uSKtgbianM2
SwiNOG participants DO NOT need to pay: Tell the clerk at the Ticketoffice
that you're participating SwiNOG and you get a free Ticket.
-> Please keep your Ticket to get back down.


See you at SwiNOG #37!

Best regards
SwiNOG Core Team

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[swinog] ## SwiNOG#37 - Open Registration & preliminary Agenda ##

[Simon Ryf]

Dear SwiNOG community,

there has been a long wait, more delays but finally we're proud to announce the 
continuity of the SwiNOG meeting.

The 37th meeting of the Swiss Network Operators Group – SwiNOG will be held in 
Berne on top of the Gurten!

Thursday, 2nd of December 2021

We're still hoping to get a few more sponsors on board and there might be one 
or two more talks to be announced

Registration is open
https://register.swinog.ch/

Agenda (preliminary)
https://www.swinog.ch/meetings/swinog37/

Special Thanks to

[cid:image001.png@01D7D59C.BFFEA4B0]

supporting us with a Gold Sponsorship and hereby helping us to continue the NOG 
community in Switzerland

Best regards and looking forward to seeing you

SwiNOG Team

Please redistribute this mail, post it, talk about it, and invite your 
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[swinog] ##### SwiNOG #37 - Call for Papers #####

[Simon Ryf]

Dear SwiNOG community,

Please forward me to whomever you think should now about our community.

This is the official Call for Paper email. Please submit your proposal via 
https://www.swinog.ch/cfp/
The 37th meeting of the Swiss Network Operators Group (SwiNOG) will be held in 
Berne on top of the Gurten on Thursday December 2nd 2021.

Important Dates for https://www.swinog.ch/meetings/swinog37/:
23.07.2021 Call for Papers
01.10.2021 Registration opens
31.10.2021 Call for Papers closing
15.11.2021 Final publication of agenda
25.11.2021 Registration closes
26.11.2021 Deadline for all slides
02.12.2021 Meeting day

Topics for Presentations/Talks

Please re-submit your paper if you're still up with a topic which you have 
submitted during … yeah whatever you call this period…!

The number and length of presentations per session is not fixed, although we 
prefer the length of the presentations to be between 5 to 45 minutes. Here is a 
non-exhaustive list of typical SwiNOG meeting topics:

  *   Security, DDOS Mitigation,
  *   IPv6
  *   Open-Source tools and interesting Github projects
  *   International view of the internet (incidents, outages, measurements)
  *   Routing
  *   Peering
  *   Server applications (DNS, Web, etc.)
  *   Legal issues (BÜPF, etc.)
  *   Telecommunication politics (Net Neutrality, Incumbent monopoly, etc.)
  *   Off-Topic if you think the audience will enjoy


  *   Feel free to talk to us about any kind of topic and collaboration! Or you 
can always start a discussion on the list - I'm sure people join in. Or join 
our telegram group at https://t.me/SWINOG

Language of Slides and Talks
The whole day will be hold in English, therefore we kindly ask you to produce 
your presentation in English.

Submission Guidelines
All submissions must have a strong technical bias (or be completely off topic) 
and must not be promotional for your employer.
Please remember that your presentations should be suitable for a target 
audience of technicians from varied backgrounds, working for companies whose 
sizes may vary considerably.
To submit a proposal for a presentation, we request that you to fill in the 
form at https://www.swinog.ch/cfp/

We also welcome suggestions for specific presentations which you feel would be 
valuable to the SwiNOG community.
Please be aware that your presentation will be published on the SwiNOG website 
after the event. We can publish modified slides if requested - it might be that 
some confidential data will be presented by you which are not intended for 
publication on the internet.

Greetings,
Simon
SwiNOG Core Team


General Information (SwiNOG Community)
The Swiss Network Operators Group (SwiNOG) is an informal group of people who 
are concerned with engineering and operation of the Swiss Internet.
SwiNOG exists to enhance the quality of Internet services available in 
Switzerland. It does this by fostering the free exchange of technical ideas and 
information between different companies and organisations.
SwiNOG is a community for professionals who are operating, designing or 
researching the Internet. It provides a technical forum where those working on, 
with and for the Internet can come together to solve problems with every aspect 
of their (net)work.
The meeting is designed to provide an opportunity for the exchange of 
information among network operators, engineers, researchers and other 
professionals close to the network community.

More information about SwiNOG can be found at http://www.swinog.ch/, Facebook, 
Xing,
Information about the meeting will be published at 
http://www.swinog.ch/meetings/swinog37/

General Information (SwiNOG Organisation)
The SwiNOG Organisation Association is a non-profit association under article 
60 and further of the swiss civil law. It manages the SwiNOG community 
ressources (domain, web, mailing-lists, etc..) and organises SwiNOG meetings.

Contact:
SwiNOG Organisation
8000 Zurich
Switzerland


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[swinog] SwiNOG #37 postponed to Mai 4th 2021

[Simon Ryf]

Dear SwiNOGers,

due to COVID-19 SwiNOG #37 has been postponed to Mai 4th 2021.
The decision has been made together with our sponsors and the results of the 
questionare.
Because we see that a major part of SwiNOG Meetings is the personal interaction 
and discussions we decided that an online-event would not live up to the 
character of the meeting.

Stay healthy and may the 4th be with us ;-)

SwiNOG Core Team

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Re: [swinog] SwiNOG #27 & COVID-19 | Please fill in survey

[Stanislav Sinyagin]

looks like there needs to be a new poll, because this one is broken. I
was also going to say "no", because the question looked like it was
asking about on-site meeting only.


On Mon, Jul 6, 2020 at 1:42 PM Jeroen Massar  wrote:
>
> On 2020-07-06 12:13, Steven Glogger wrote:
> > Hi community
> >
> > We’re currently in discussion if we will proceed with our SwiNOG #27
> > plans or if not…
> > We would like to get your opinion.
> > Please help us and provide an honest answer to our really short
> > questinaire (will take 30sec to fill in):
> > http://swinog.ch/covid/
>
>
> People be aware:
>
> If you select "no" on the first page ("Would you like to have a..."),
> then you do not get to chose the multi selector which has more useful
> options:
>
> - Remote: Join only if there is an remote / online session
> - On-Site: Join personally on site I would not join online nor remote -
> - I'll just watch the presentations and videos late…
> - I am ok for on-site if COVID infection rates drop by this tim…
> - Join Onsite, no live stream (otherwise less ppl attend,) if i…
>
>
> I think most people would have selected on of those options if they
> could: 70% said 'no' now and did not get to be represented in the second
> chart which skews the results quite a bit.
>
> Also, keep that in mind when looking at the chart: 33 responses no,
> while 10 of those could fill in the second chart, 23 did not get to see it.
>
>
> I am good with remote session (though I tend to then just watch the ones
> I am directly interested in to allow for questions/feedback, and watch
> the rest at a later point).
>
> Greets,
>   Jeroen
>
>
>
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Re: [swinog] SwiNOG #27 & COVID-19 | Please fill in survey

[Stanislav Sinyagin]

why not holding a virtual meeting? I can provide my paid Zoom account.

Maybe 3-4 morning sessions, 2 hours each, would be a convenient format.


On Mon, Jul 6, 2020 at 12:18 PM Steven Glogger  wrote:
>
> Hi community
>
> We’re currently in discussion if we will proceed with our SwiNOG #27 plans or 
> if not…
> We would like to get your opinion.
> Please help us and provide an honest answer to our really short questinaire 
> (will take 30sec to fill in):
> http://swinog.ch/covid/
>
> greeings
>
> -steven
> SwiNOG Core Member
>
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Re: [swinog] SwiNOG #27 & COVID-19 | Please fill in survey

[Jeroen Massar]

On 2020-07-06 12:13, Steven Glogger wrote:

Hi community

We’re currently in discussion if we will proceed with our SwiNOG #27 
plans or if not…

We would like to get your opinion.
Please help us and provide an honest answer to our really short 
questinaire (will take 30sec to fill in):

http://swinog.ch/covid/



People be aware:

If you select "no" on the first page ("Would you like to have a..."), 
then you do not get to chose the multi selector which has more useful 
options:


- Remote: Join only if there is an remote / online session
- On-Site: Join personally on site I would not join online nor remote - 
- I'll just watch the presentations and videos late…

- I am ok for on-site if COVID infection rates drop by this tim…
- Join Onsite, no live stream (otherwise less ppl attend,) if i…


I think most people would have selected on of those options if they 
could: 70% said 'no' now and did not get to be represented in the second 
chart which skews the results quite a bit.


Also, keep that in mind when looking at the chart: 33 responses no, 
while 10 of those could fill in the second chart, 23 did not get to see it.



I am good with remote session (though I tend to then just watch the ones 
I am directly interested in to allow for questions/feedback, and watch 
the rest at a later point).


Greets,
 Jeroen



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[swinog] SwiNOG #27 & COVID-19 | Please fill in survey

[Steven Glogger]

Hi community

We’re currently in discussion if we will proceed with our SwiNOG #27 plans or 
if not… 
We would like to get your opinion. 
Please help us and provide an honest answer to our really short questinaire 
(will take 30sec to fill in):
http://swinog.ch/covid/ 

greeings

-steven
SwiNOG Core Member
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[swinog] SwiNOG #37 postponed due to COVID-19

[Roman Hochuli]

Dear Community

After careful consideration of risks and benefits and with a heavy
heart, we have decided not to go forward with SwiNOG #37 in May 2020 due
to the highly uncertain situation regarding the SARS-CoV-2 virus. The
critical factors are the travelling, the restrictions placed on events
by the government and first and foremost our concern for the health and
safety of all our attendees and speakers.

We are currently talking to our sponsors and partners to find a solution
on how to proceed. We are very sorry we can't give you the great
conference in May that many of you have been eagerly anticipating. We do
hope you understand that this was, in every way, a very tough decision
for us to make. We are trying to do the right thing by putting the
health of all of us first.

Instead of the two meetings in May and November, we plan for one big
Event on Tuesday, September 8th, 2020.

If you have any question do not hesitate to contact us.
The SwiNOG Core Team

-- 
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Re: [swinog] ##### SwiNOG#36 - Travel Info #####

[Stanislav Sinyagin]

but maybe it's your calendar that is wrong, and Simon's is the
reality. You never know

On Wed, Nov 13, 2019 at 12:11 AM Jeroen Massar  wrote:
>
> On 2019-11-12 21:51, Simon Ryf wrote:
> > Dear SwiNOG Community,
> >
> > Please find general information about the SwiNOG #36 meeting below.
> >
> > https://www.swinog.ch/meetings/swinog36/
> >
> > Date: 14.10.2018 - Registration 08h15 - 09h15
>
> Back to the future!
>
> I can only assume 14.11.2019 aka 'tomorrow' (thursday).
>
> Greets,
>   Jeroen
>(eating fresh homemade spanish croquetas de jamon serrano[1], thus
> won't be bothering anybody there ;)
>
> [1]
> https://spanishsabores.com/2011/10/12/croquetas-de-jamon-serrano-recipe-ham-croquettes/
>
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Re: [swinog] ##### SwiNOG#36 - Travel Info #####

[Jeroen Massar]

On 2019-11-12 21:51, Simon Ryf wrote:

Dear SwiNOG Community,

Please find general information about the SwiNOG #36 meeting below.

https://www.swinog.ch/meetings/swinog36/

Date: 14.10.2018 - Registration 08h15 - 09h15


Back to the future!

I can only assume 14.11.2019 aka 'tomorrow' (thursday).

Greets,
 Jeroen
  (eating fresh homemade spanish croquetas de jamon serrano[1], thus 
won't be bothering anybody there ;)


[1] 
https://spanishsabores.com/2011/10/12/croquetas-de-jamon-serrano-recipe-ham-croquettes/



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[swinog] ##### SwiNOG#36 - Travel Info #####

[Simon Ryf]

Dear SwiNOG Community,

Please find general information about the SwiNOG #36 meeting below.

https://www.swinog.ch/meetings/swinog36/

Date: 14.10.2018 - Registration 08h15 - 09h15
Location: Gurtenpark, Bern: https://goo.gl/maps/kuxy4QUrcoy

>From Bern main station you may take:
- S-Bahn S3 Belp and exit at Wabern station
- Tram 9 (Wabern) and exit at Gurtenbahn stop

Then take the Gurtenbahn to the Gurtenpark.
-> You DO NOT have to pay a fee, just tell you attend to the SwiNOG event.
Don’t throw away the ticket - you'll need it to get back down.

Map (Ground Station of the cable rail): https://goo.gl/maps/5uSKtgbianM2

Suggested trains from
Geneva:06h12
Zurich:  07h02

WIRELESS ACCESS
During the meeting, you have access to free WLAN!

See you at SwiNOG #36!

SwiNOG

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[swinog] ## SwiNOG#36 - Agenda ##

[Simon Ryf]

Dear SwiNOG’ers

I’m happy to say that after a few struggles and some back and forth we have the 
final agenda and we’re ready!!

Please check out the agenda at https://www.swinog.ch/meetings/swinog36/
And https://register.swinog.ch/ until Sunday the 10th

If you like a free entry – send us a CFP submission for a 5 to 10min lightning 
talk https://www.swinog.ch/cfp/

Best Regards, happy networking and till Thursday 14th November 2019
Your SwiNOG Team

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[swinog] ## SwiNOG #36 - November 14th - Agenda (preview) ##

[Simon Ryf]

e looking at issues 
seen with it. An example of few weird and broken BGP announcements as currently 
seen on the Internet by it are then discussed.

15min | Poor man's explanation why IPv6 is stalling in CH | Jean-Pierre 
Schwickerath (HILOTEC Engineering + Consulting AG)
As a service provider for SME, we use on default ISP products for internet 
connectivity. The presentation will provide an overview of our experience with 
IPV6 on those products and where we believe improvements are (over)due.

20min | IP design and exploitation of Geneva city transport network | Gregoire 
Huet (TPG)
How the IP network for 700 vehicles has been designed. From hardware 
constraints to BGP implementation and up to TICK monitoring and alerting.
@Mobile IP, @BGP, @Linux, @Cisco, @NetModule, @Swisscom CNA, @SNMP, @TICK, 
@Grafana

15min | tbd/Cybersecurity | Levente Dobszay (Electrosuisse)
tbd/Cybersecurity


I like to thank you for our sponsors – without them we would have no SwiNOG !!!

Extreme Networks
ngworx
Alturna Networks
SWITCH
Centurylink
RIPE NCC

Final agenda with Schedule will be published soon. Till then…

Br
Simon
SwiNOG

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[swinog] ##### SwiNOG #36 - Call for Papers & Sponsors (2019-Nov-14) #####

[Steven Glogger]

Dear SwiNOG supporter,
 
this is the official Call for Paper email. Please submit your proposal via 
https://www.swinog.ch/cfp/ 
The 36th meeting of the Swiss Network Operators Group (SwiNOG) will be held in 
Berne on top of the Gurten on Thursday November 14th 2019.
 
Important Dates for https://www.swinog.ch/meetings/swinog36/:
29.07.2019 Call for Papers
19.08.2019 Registration opens
31.10.2019 Final publication of agenda
03.11.2019 Registration closes
08.11.2019 Deadline for all slides
14.11.2019 Meeting day
 
Topics for Presentations/Talks
The number and length of presentations per session is not fixed, although due 
to time constraints we would prefer the length of the presentations to be 
between 5 to 45 minutes. Here is a non-exhaustive list of typical SwiNOG 
meeting topics:
Security, DDOS Mitigation,
IPv6
Open Source tools and interesting Github projects
International view of the internet (incidents, outages, measurements)
Routing
Server applications (DNS, Web, etc.)
Legal issues (BüPF, etc.)
Telecommunication politics (Net Neutrality, Incumbent monopoly, etc.)
 
-> PLEASE feel free to talk to us about any kind of topic and collaboration!!! 
You can always start a discussion on the list - I'm sure people join in.
 
Language of Slides and Talks
The whole day will be held in English, therefore we kindly ask you to produce 
your presentation in English.
Be aware that in general we will record your presentation on video and publish 
it on Youtube (unless disapproved).
 
Submission Guidelines
All submissions must have a strong technical bias and must not be solely 
promotional for your employer.
Please remember that your presentations should be suitable for a target 
audience of technicians from varied backgrounds, working for companies whose 
sizes may vary considerably.
To submit a proposal for a presentation, we request that you to fill in the 
form at https://www.swinog.ch/cfp/ 
 
We also welcome suggestions for specific presentations which you feel would be 
valuable to the SwiNOG community.
Please be aware that your presentation will be published on the SwiNOG website 
after the event. We can publish modified slides if requested - it might be that 
some confidential data will be presented by you which are not intended for 
publication on the internet.

Call for Sponsors
At the moment we don't have yet a sponsor (thus the meeting is not yet fixed). 
If you are interested to be part of SwiNOG #36 as sponsor or supporter, please 
get in touch with us.

For more informations about sponsoring opportunities check out:
http://www.swinog.ch/sponsor


 
Greetings,
Steven Glogger
SwiNOG Core Team
 
 
General Information (SwiNOG Community)
The Swiss Network Operators Group (SwiNOG) is an informal group of people who 
are concerned with engineering and operation of the Swiss Internet.
SwiNOG exists to enhance the quality of Internet services available in 
Switzerland. It does this by fostering the free exchange of technical ideas and 
information between different companies and organisations.
SwiNOG is a community for professionals who are operating, designing or 
researching the Internet. It provides a technical forum where those working on, 
with and for the Internet can come together to solve problems with every aspect 
of their (net)work.
The meeting is designed to provide an opportunity for the exchange of 
information among network operators, engineers, researchers and other 
professionals close to the network community.
 
More information about SwiNOG can be found at http://www.swinog.ch/ 
, Facebook, Xing,
Information about the meeting will be published at 
http://www.swinog.ch/meetings/swinog36 /
 
General Information (SwiNOG Organisation)
The SwiNOG Organisation Association is a non-profit association under article 
60 and further of the swiss civil law. It manages the SwiNOG community 
ressources (domain, web, mailing-lists, etc..) and organises SwiNOG meetings.
 
Contact:
SwiNOG Organisation
8000 Zurich
Switzerland
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Re: [swinog] swinog Digest, Vol 174, Issue 3

[Andreas Fink]

On 11 Jul 2019, at 14:55, Daniel Stirnimann  wrote:
> 
> The pointers have been given before. This is your problem:
> 
> https://www.spamhaus.org/query/ip/79.134.251.203
> 
> Daniel


Yes above is my problem but at the same time it can not be the reason for mail 
delivery to bluewin.ch  coming back with a cryptic  DNSNULL 
error

Spamhaus has a issue with a customer of mine but they have not shown any proof. 
Above IP however is not in the disputed IP range, its my my well maintained 
mailserver which has never sent any spam and is not listed as sending any spam 
anywhere else. What Spamhaus is doing is trying to get ISPs to cancel contracts 
with well paying customers on first call (no judge, no proof) by putting the 
ISP's whole IP range into a blacklist (a /19 !) and thus punishing legitimate 
3rd parties as well. This is called coercion (Nötigung) which is a criminal 
offense punishable by law for up to 3 years in jail. We will see if Spamhaus 
prefers to go to jal or change their blacklisting policy.

Never the less. Sending emailst o bluewin.ch  has never 
been affected. I sent emails successfuly yesterday to bluewin users without a 
problem. I don't think Spamhaus's blacklist are being used by bluewin.ch 
 as otherwise we would have had issues a lot earlier.

So this doesn't explain any DNSNULL error. And frankly, the error message is 
really stupid misleading...


> 
> On 11.07.19 14:25, Andreas Fink wrote:
>> Except that this is not applicable. In my case my mailserver is not
>> hosted at Swisscom but on my own infrastructure, is on the same IP since
>> years, has proper MX records and reverse DNS entries and has delivered
>> email to the same bluewin customer yesterday successfully. Only the
>> reply on that receiver today which I received and replied again got
>> rejected. And the response is cryptic to me.  
>> 
>> And if you mail to ab...@bluewin.ch  you get
>> the same error...
>> 
>> So who is this famous DNSNULL I should contact?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 11 Jul 2019, at 13:49, Florin sfetea >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> See 
>>> https://community.swisscom.ch/t5/E-Mail/Bluewin-akzeptiert-E-Mails-von-eigener-Domain-nicht/td-p/570002
>>>  
>>>  
>>> Beste Grüsse, Regards si s-auzim de bine 
>>> Florin Sfetea
>>>  
>>> *From: *swinog-requ...@lists.swinog.ch
>>> 
>>> *Sent: *Thursday, July 11, 2019 12:00
>>> *To: *swinog@lists.swinog.ch 
>>> *Subject: *swinog Digest, Vol 174, Issue 3
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>>> Message: 1
>>> Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2019 11:32:38 +0200
>>> From: Andreas Fink mailto:af...@list.fink.org>>
>>> To: "swi...@swinog.ch " >> >
>>> Subject: [swinog] bluewin & DNSNULL
>>> Message-ID: <75da5d85-1a68-4d10-94b8-6237fd9d5...@list.fink.org
>>> >
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>>  
>>>  
>>> Does any one have a clue what DNSNULL means in the following context
>>> of a mail delivery error?
>>>  
>>>  
>>>  
>>> <@bluewin.ch
>>>  >
>>> (mx-v02.bluewin.ch
>>>  :
>>> 554 mxbw.lb.bluewin.ch
>>>  vim
>>> dzmsp-mxin12.bluewin.ch
>>>  
>>> Swisscom AG IP: 79.134.251.203, You are not allowed 
>>> to send us mail. Please see DNSNULL if you feel this is in
>>> error)Reporting-MTA: dns; mail.fink.org
>>>  
>>> Arrival-Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2019 11:19:58 +0200
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[Daniel Stirnimann]

The pointers have been given before. This is your problem:

https://www.spamhaus.org/query/ip/79.134.251.203

Daniel

On 11.07.19 14:25, Andreas Fink wrote:
> Except that this is not applicable. In my case my mailserver is not
> hosted at Swisscom but on my own infrastructure, is on the same IP since
> years, has proper MX records and reverse DNS entries and has delivered
> email to the same bluewin customer yesterday successfully. Only the
> reply on that receiver today which I received and replied again got
> rejected. And the response is cryptic to me.  
> 
> And if you mail to ab...@bluewin.ch  you get
> the same error...
> 
> So who is this famous DNSNULL I should contact?
> 
> 
> 
>> On 11 Jul 2019, at 13:49, Florin sfetea > > wrote:
>>
>> See 
>> https://community.swisscom.ch/t5/E-Mail/Bluewin-akzeptiert-E-Mails-von-eigener-Domain-nicht/td-p/570002
>>  
>>  
>> Beste Grüsse, Regards si s-auzim de bine 
>> Florin Sfetea
>>  
>> *From: *swinog-requ...@lists.swinog.ch
>> 
>> *Sent: *Thursday, July 11, 2019 12:00
>> *To: *swinog@lists.swinog.ch 
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2019 11:32:38 +0200
>> From: Andreas Fink mailto:af...@list.fink.org>>
>> To: "swi...@swinog.ch " > >
>> Subject: [swinog] bluewin & DNSNULL
>> Message-ID: <75da5d85-1a68-4d10-94b8-6237fd9d5...@list.fink.org
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>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>  
>>  
>> Does any one have a clue what DNSNULL means in the following context
>> of a mail delivery error?
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> <@bluewin.ch
>>  >
>> (mx-v02.bluewin.ch
>>  :
>> 554 mxbw.lb.bluewin.ch
>>  vim
>> dzmsp-mxin12.bluewin.ch
>>  
>> Swisscom AG IP: 79.134.251.203, You are not allowed 
>> to send us mail. Please see DNSNULL if you feel this is in
>> error)Reporting-MTA: dns; mail.fink.org
>>  
>> Arrival-Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2019 11:19:58 +0200
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[Andreas Fink]

Except that this is not applicable. In my case my mailserver is not hosted at 
Swisscom but on my own infrastructure, is on the same IP since years, has 
proper MX records and reverse DNS entries and has delivered email to the same 
bluewin customer yesterday successfully. Only the reply on that receiver today 
which I received and replied again got rejected. And the response is cryptic to 
me.  

And if you mail to ab...@bluewin.ch <mailto:ab...@bluewin.ch> you get the same 
error...

So who is this famous DNSNULL I should contact?



> On 11 Jul 2019, at 13:49, Florin sfetea  wrote:
> 
> See 
> https://community.swisscom.ch/t5/E-Mail/Bluewin-akzeptiert-E-Mails-von-eigener-Domain-nicht/td-p/570002
>  
> <https://community.swisscom.ch/t5/E-Mail/Bluewin-akzeptiert-E-Mails-von-eigener-Domain-nicht/td-p/570002>
>  
>  
> Beste Grüsse, Regards si s-auzim de bine 
> Florin Sfetea
>  
> From: swinog-requ...@lists.swinog.ch <mailto:swinog-requ...@lists.swinog.ch>
> Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2019 12:00
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> To: "swi...@swinog.ch <mailto:swi...@swinog.ch>"  <mailto:swi...@swinog.ch>>
> Subject: [swinog] bluewin & DNSNULL
> Message-ID: <75da5d85-1a68-4d10-94b8-6237fd9d5...@list.fink.org 
> <mailto:75da5d85-1a68-4d10-94b8-6237fd9d5...@list.fink.org>>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>  
>  
> Does any one have a clue what DNSNULL means in the following context of a 
> mail delivery error?
>  
>  
>  
> <@bluewin.ch <http://bluewin.ch/> <mailto:claudine.be...@bluewin.ch 
> <mailto:claudine.be...@bluewin.ch>>> (mx-v02.bluewin.ch 
> <http://mx-v02.bluewin.ch/> <http://mx-v02.bluewin.ch/ 
> <http://mx-v02.bluewin.ch/>>: 554 mxbw.lb.bluewin.ch 
> <http://mxbw.lb.bluewin.ch/><http://mxbw.lb.bluewin.ch/ 
> <http://mxbw.lb.bluewin.ch/>> vim
> dzmsp-mxin12.bluewin.ch <http://dzmsp-mxin12.bluewin.ch/> 
> <http://dzmsp-mxin12.bluewin.ch/ <http://dzmsp-mxin12.bluewin.ch/>> Swisscom 
> AG IP: 79.134.251.203, You are not allowed 
> to send us mail. Please see DNSNULL if you feel this is in 
> error)Reporting-MTA: dns; mail.fink.org <http://mail.fink.org/> 
> <http://mail.fink.org/ <http://mail.fink.org/>>
> Arrival-Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2019 11:19:58 +0200
> ...
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[Florin sfetea]

See 
https://community.swisscom.ch/t5/E-Mail/Bluewin-akzeptiert-E-Mails-von-eigener-Domain-nicht/td-p/570002


Beste Grüsse, Regards si s-auzim de bine 
Florin Sfetea

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Does any one have a clue what DNSNULL means in the following context of a mail 
delivery error?



 <@bluewin.ch > (mx-v02.bluewin.ch 
: 554 mxbw.lb.bluewin.ch 
 vim
dzmsp-mxin12.bluewin.ch  Swisscom AG IP: 
79.134.251.203, You are not allowed 
to send us mail. Please see DNSNULL if you feel this is in error)Reporting-MTA: 
dns; mail.fink.org 
Arrival-Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2019 11:19:58 +0200
...



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[Florin sfetea]

See 
https://community.swisscom.ch/t5/E-Mail/Bluewin-akzeptiert-E-Mails-von-eigener-Domain-nicht/td-p/570002


Beste Grüsse, Regards si s-auzim de bine 
Florin Sfetea

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Does any one have a clue what DNSNULL means in the following context of a mail 
delivery error?



 <@bluewin.ch > (mx-v02.bluewin.ch 
: 554 mxbw.lb.bluewin.ch 
 vim
dzmsp-mxin12.bluewin.ch  Swisscom AG IP: 
79.134.251.203, You are not allowed 
to send us mail. Please see DNSNULL if you feel this is in error)Reporting-MTA: 
dns; mail.fink.org 
Arrival-Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2019 11:19:58 +0200
...



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[swinog] ### SwiNOG#35 - May 8th - Agenda ###

[Simon Ryf]

deployed the setups without anybody noticing.

 

16:35 | Buffer Sizing Revisited | Simon Leinen (SWITCH)

Routers and switches need buffers to accommodate traffic bursts. But how big 
should those buffers be? The elders recommended RTT*bottleneck 
bandwidth[Villamizar1994], but more recent work suggests we can get away with 
much less. We will look at economic and performance trade-offs of small vs. big 
buffers in light of recent trends in forwarding hardware and transport protocol 
evolution.

 

17:00 | grey energy used by data traffic | Kordian Caplazi

The goal of my thesis is to calculate the grey energy imported and exported in 
Switzerland, which is generated by the data traffic of the internet. Today it 
is already done for consumer products such as clothes or cars, but not for the 
internet. For the internet our approach is to map the total traffic and its 
energy consumption along the route. A more detailed view on the energy 
consumption and therefore the greenhouse gas production will be achieved by 
splitting the traffic by country and its sources for energy production.

 

17:05 | How not to integrate Access CPEs | Pascal Gloor (Quickline AG)

you'll see ;-)

 

17:15 | Roundup | Simon Ryf (SwiNOG)

 

17:20 | Social Event

 

 

Many thanks to your sponsors for this event

 

Huawei & F5

 

 

Hope to see you on the 8th of May

 

Simon

 

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[swinog] ##### SwiNOG #35 - Call for Papers (2019-May-08) #####

[Simon Ryf]

Dear SwiNOG supporter,

this is the official Call for Paper email. Please submit your proposal via 
https://www.swinog.ch/cfp/
The 35th meeting of the Swiss Network Operators Group (SwiNOG) will be held in 
Berne on top of the Gurten on Thursday May 8th 2019.

Important Dates for https://www.swinog.ch/meetings/swinog35/:
12.02.2019 Call for Papers
tbd   Registration opens
28.04.2019 Final publication of agenda
03.05.2019 Registration closes
06.05.2019 Deadline for all slides
08.05.2019 Meeting day

Topics for Presentations/Talks
The number and length of presentations per session is not fixed, although due 
to time constraints we would prefer the length of the presentations to be 
between 5 to 45 minutes. Here is a non-exhaustive list of typical SwiNOG 
meeting topics:

  *   Security, DDOS Mitigation,
  *   IPv6
  *   Open Source tools and interesting Github projects
  *   International view of the internet (incidents, outages, measurements)
  *   Routing
  *   Server applications (DNS, Web, etc.)
  *   Legal issues (BüPF, etc.)
  *   Telecommunication politics (Net Neutrality, Incumbent monopoly, etc.)

-> PLEASE feel free to talk to us about any kind of topic and collaboration!!! 
You can always start a discussion on the list - I'm sure people join in.

Language of Slides and Talks
The whole day will be held in English, therefore we kindly ask you to produce 
your presentation in English.

Submission Guidelines
All submissions must have a strong technical bias and must not be solely 
promotional for your employer.
Please remember that your presentations should be suitable for a target 
audience of technicians from varied backgrounds, working for companies whose 
sizes may vary considerably.
To submit a proposal for a presentation, we request that you to fill in the 
form at https://www.swinog.ch/cfp/

We also welcome suggestions for specific presentations which you feel would be 
valuable to the SwiNOG community.
Please be aware that your presentation will be published on the SwiNOG website 
after the event. We can publish modified slides if requested - it might be that 
some confidential data will be presented by you which are not intended for 
publication on the internet.

Greetings,
Simon Ryf
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General Information (SwiNOG Community)
The Swiss Network Operators Group (SwiNOG) is an informal group of people who 
are concerned with engineering and operation of the Swiss Internet.
SwiNOG exists to enhance the quality of Internet services available in 
Switzerland. It does this by fostering the free exchange of technical ideas and 
information between different companies and organisations.
SwiNOG is a community for professionals who are operating, designing or 
researching the Internet. It provides a technical forum where those working on, 
with and for the Internet can come together to solve problems with every aspect 
of their (net)work.
The meeting is designed to provide an opportunity for the exchange of 
information among network operators, engineers, researchers and other 
professionals close to the network community.

More information about SwiNOG can be found at http://www.swinog.ch/, Facebook, 
Xing,
Information about the meeting will be published at 
http://www.swinog.ch/meetings/swinog31/

General Information (SwiNOG Organisation)
The SwiNOG Organisation Association is a non-profit association under article 
60 and further of the swiss civil law. It manages the SwiNOG community 
ressources (domain, web, mailing-lists, etc..) and organises SwiNOG meetings.

Contact:
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Re: [swinog] SwiNOG #34 – first videos published

[Steven Glogger]

Hi Venti

Thanks for your input.

> How about also releasing/uploading the videos to
> https://media.ccc.de/ ? DENOG and dozens of other conferences
> are there to be found.
> 
> I could make the necessary contacts for this, if you want.

Sounds very nice to us - but: we’re investing already a lot of time in managing 
and organizing SwiNOG events.
Now with the Videos we’re investing again several hours on top of this 
(cutting, adjusting tone, putting all together, upload, website, social media, 
etc.). 
If we add additional repositories that would mean that we have to manage more 
on top. 
And honestly we don’t have time for this :(
Remember: SwiNOG board is very small and has very limited resources and we’re 
spending pure private time for this. There is no compensation for us at all 
(except a yearly dinner).

Hope you understand our position.

greetings

-steven



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Re: [swinog] SwiNOG #34 – first videos published

[Martin Ebnoether]

On the Fri, Dec 14, 2018 at 01:29:50PM +0100, Steven Glogger blubbered:

Hoi Steven.

> As announced at SwiNOG #34 we we're recording the
> presentations and I'm glad to announce that first two Videos
> are published.
> 
> Link to the presentation & video:
> http://www.swinog.ch/meetings/swinog34/

Cool! 

> Youtube-Playlist for SwiNOG #34
> https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLMP2Spqss4Ipu2bEWyqnHPDziyK74uoi0
> 
> SwiNOG Channel:
> https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCNc3EckU23H4rXn_SdgpTUw
> 
> We release more videos in the next weeks.

How about also releasing/uploading the videos to
https://media.ccc.de/ ? DENOG and dozens of other conferences
are there to be found.

I could make the necessary contacts for this, if you want.

CU, Venty

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„Es ist eine Grinse-Katze,“ sagte die Herzogin, „darum!“    


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[swinog] SwiNOG #34 – first videos published

[Steven Glogger]

Hi everybody,

As announced at SwiNOG #34 we we're recording the presentations and I'm glad to 
announce that first two Videos are published.

Link to the presentation & video:
http://www.swinog.ch/meetings/swinog34/

Youtube-Playlist for SwiNOG #34
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLMP2Spqss4Ipu2bEWyqnHPDziyK74uoi0

SwiNOG Channel:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCNc3EckU23H4rXn_SdgpTUw

We release more videos in the next weeks.

Please note that we're not announcing every video on the mailinglist.
Simply use the playlist, subscribe to the youtube channel or follow us on 
twitter.

greetings

-steven
SwiNOG Core Member

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Re: [swinog] swinog Digest, Vol 167, Issue 1

[Martin Fischer]

with a code that is sent by an SMS to confirm identity before transaction 
becomes confirmed..

Fründlechi Grüess 
Martin 


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> Today's Topics:
> 
>   1. How do website operators get the mobile phone number of
>  visitors? (Benoit Panizzon)
> 
> 
> --
> 
> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2018 14:54:04 +0100
> From: Benoit Panizzon 
> To: swi...@swinog.ch
> Subject: [swinog] How do website operators get the mobile phone number
>ofvisitors?
> Message-ID: <20181206145404.74dca...@go.imp.ch>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
> 
> Hi List
> 
> I have read:
> 
> https://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/2012/01/25/smartphone-website-telephone-number/
> 
> And I have sniffed the traffic between my swisscom mobile Samsung
> Mobile and my Website, but can't find any of the additional headers
> disclosing my phone number.
> 
> Is there a trick to make a mobile phone disclose it's phone number
> while connected via the mobile network's operator network?
> 
> How can 'website payment' operator like 'obligo' get the phone number
> associated with a visitor? Obligo states they got the phone number
> to bill 'from the service operator'.
> 
> Would it be possible, that a fraudster injects such headers from a
> client to make obligo bill the wrong number?
> 
> PS: I know obligo's reputation.
> 
> Mit freundlichen Gr?ssen
> 
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Re: [swinog] Swinog #34 Ride on 30th - Geneva and Lausanne

[Vincent Bernat]

Same train from Lausanne for me.
-- 
Make the coupling between modules visible.
- The Elements of Programming Style (Kernighan & Plauger)

 ――― Original Message ―――
 From: "lucas.dousse" 
 Sent: 29 octobre 2018 20:08 +0100
 Subject: Re: [swinog] Swinog #34 Ride on 30th - Geneva and Lausanne
 To: Will van Gulik; swi...@swinog.ch

> I will be taking the train at 07:20 from Lausanne, in 2nd class. Tell me 
> where you will be on the train.
> Cheers, Lucas 
>  Message d'origine De : Will van Gulik
>  Date : 29.10.18 19:47 (GMT+01:00) À :
> swi...@swinog.ch Objet : [swinog] Swinog #34 Ride on 30th - Geneva and
> Lausanne
> Hey Swinogers,
>
> FYI I will be taking the train at 6:42 from GVA, in 2nd class. If
> anyone wanna join me, I'll try to take some space for those stepping
> in in Lausanne.
>
> Cheers and see you all tomorrow ! :)
>
> Will
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Re: [swinog] Swinog #34 Ride on 30th - Geneva and Lausanne

[lucas.dousse]

I will be taking the train at 07:20 from Lausanne, in 2nd class. Tell me where 
you will be on the train.
Cheers, Lucas 
 Message d'origine De : Will van Gulik 
 Date : 29.10.18  19:47  (GMT+01:00) À : 
swi...@swinog.ch Objet : [swinog] Swinog #34 Ride on 30th - Geneva and Lausanne 
Hey Swinogers,

FYI I will be taking the train at 6:42 from GVA, in 2nd class. If anyone wanna 
join me, I'll try to take some space for those stepping in in Lausanne.

Cheers and see you all tomorrow ! :)

Will

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[swinog] Swinog #34 Ride on 30th - Geneva and Lausanne

[Will van Gulik]

Hey Swinogers,

FYI I will be taking the train at 6:42 from GVA, in 2nd class. If anyone wanna 
join me, I'll try to take some space for those stepping in in Lausanne.

Cheers and see you all tomorrow ! :)

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[swinog] ##### SwiNOG#34 - Travel Info #####

[Simon Ryf]

Dear SwiNOG Community,

 

Please find general information about the SwiNOG #34 meeting below.

https://www.swinog.ch/meetings/swinog34/ 

 

Date: 30.10.2018 - Registration 08h15 - 09h15

Location: Gurtenpark, Bern: https://goo.gl/maps/kuxy4QUrcoy

 

>From Bern main station you may take:

- S-Bahn S3 Belp and exit at Wabern station

- Tram 9 (Wabern) and exit at Gurtenbahn stop

 

Then take the Gurtenbahn to the Gurtenpark.

-> You DO NOT have to pay a fee, just tell you attend to the SwiNOG event.

Don’t throw away the ticket - you'll need it to get back down.

 

Map (Ground Station of the cable rail): https://goo.gl/maps/5uSKtgbianM2

 

Suggested trains from

Geneva:    06h14

Zurich:  07h02

 

WIRELESS ACCESS

During the meeting, you have access to free WLAN!

  

See you at SwiNOG #34!

 

Simon Ryf

SwiNOG Organisation


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[swinog] #### SwiNOG #34 - in between ####

[Simon Ryf]

Dear SwiNOG supporter,

 

SwiNOG #34 is getting closer, we’re almost ready and the agenda is filling up – 
so it looks like we’re on schedule.

 

However, we have still open slots for lightning talks and one or two speeches. 

Please let us know if you like to present your topic: 
https://www.swinog.ch/cfp/ 

 

Important Dates for SwiNOG#34

31.07.2018 Save the Date!

31.07.2018 Call for Papers

20.08.2018 Registration opens

05.10.2018 Call for Papers closing

10.10.2018 Final publication of Agenda

22.10.2018 Registration closes

25.10.2018 Deadline for submitting all slides

30.10.2018 Meeting day

 

 

Br

Simon Ryf

SwiNOG Core Team


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[swinog] SwiNOG-BE168 - Beer Event 168 - The Farewell Event @ Restaurant Schlachthof / ZH

[Viktor Steinmann]

Dear SwiNOGers,

The last Beer Event featuring Candid. Let's join in the Schlachthof to 
wish him all the best for his future.


Details for the next event:
---
Event:    SwiNOG-BE168 - Beer Event 168 - The Farewell Event

When?    Monday, 1st October 2018 18:30

Where?    Restaurant Schlachthof
    Herdernstrasse 59, Zürich
    http://www.restaurant-schlachthof.ch
    (GoogleMaps Link: http://goo.gl/maps/1UsakLjWKcT2)

Places available? 10

!! Please sign up if you're really coming - because the seats are 
limited! !!


---

Registration:

Start:    Wednesday, 12th September 2018  - 10:00
Stop:    Friday, 28th September 2018  - 16:00

Reg-URL: http://swinog.be/

---

Since we have to make reservations, I need to know who's coming and who not.
If you can't attend and you're registered please inform me ASAP (078 602 
95 18).


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[swinog] Swinog-BE167 - Beer Event 167 @ Kings Cave / ZH

[Viktor Steinmann]

Dear SwiNOGers,

After the bad news about the end of the SWITCH mirror, everyone needs some good 
news.
Let's have some beer and food.
And because of its central (pun intended) location, we're again descending into 
the cave. The King's Cave.

Details for the next event:
---
Event:  Swinog-BE167 - Beer Event 167

When?   Monday, 3rd September 2018 18:30

Where?  Kings Cave
Central 1, 8001 Zürich
http://central.ch/portfolio_page/kings-cave/
(GoogleMaps Link: http://goo.gl/maps/H1ez7HeF6x72)

Places available? 10

!! Please sign up if you're really coming - because the seats are limited! !!

---

Registration:

Start:  Thursday, 23rd August 2018  - 15:00
Stop:   Friday, 31st August 2018  - 16:00

Reg-URL: http://swinog.be/

---

Since we have to make reservations, I need to know who's coming and who not.
If you can't attend and you're registered please inform me ASAP (078 602 95 18).

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[swinog] SwiNOG #34 Registration/Information

[Steven Glogger]

Dear SwiNOG supporter,

The 34th meeting of the Swiss Network Operators Group (SwiNOG) will be held in 
Berne on top of the Gurten on Thuesday October 30th 2018.


Registration
The SwiNOG Registration has been opened :)
If you’re thinking about holding a speech: please wait with your registration 
after your CFP submit.

 
Call for Paper!!
The Call for Paper is still open. Please use the CFP Form to submit your 
presentation:
https://www.swinog.ch/cfp/  

 
Important Dates for SwiNOG#34
31.07.2018 Save the Date!
31.07.2018 Call for Papers
20.08.2018 Registration opens
05.10.2018 Call for Papers closing
10.10.2018 Final publication of Agenda
22.10.2018 Registration closes
25.10.2018 Deadline for submitting all slides
30.10.2018 Meeting day
 
 
 
Greetings,
Steven Glogger
SwiNOG Core Team


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Re: [swinog] swinog Digest, Vol 163, Issue 2 wifi on Battery

[Martin Fischer]

1.) Check with https://www.ict-plus.ch
They have a lot experiences with Long reach wifi... 
2.) why not just a standard USV? Solar or Wind buffered... or is a normal power 
supply only sometimes available?

Fründlechi Grüess 
Martin Fischer 


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> 
> Today's Topics:
> 
>   1. Battery powered wifi link (20km, multihop) (Nico Schottelius)
>   2. Re: Battery powered wifi link (20km, multihop) (Andreas Fink)
>   3. Re: Battery powered wifi link (20km, multihop) (Matthias Cramer)
>   4. Huge Packetloss towards switch mirrors? (Benoit Panizzon)
>   5. Re: Huge Packetloss towards switch mirrors? (Florian Bruhin)
>   6. Re: Huge Packetloss towards switch mirrors? (Benoit Panizzon)
> 
> 
> --
> 
> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2018 15:43:54 +0200
> From: Nico Schottelius 
> To: swinog 
> Subject: [swinog] Battery powered wifi link (20km, multihop)
> Message-ID: <87bmadj7mt@line.ungleich.ch>
> Content-Type: text/plain
> 
> 
> Hey Swinog,
> 
> does anyone have experiences with long distance (~20km) wifi powered
> by battery?
> 
> With have the situation that we basically want to connect Schwanden to
> Linthal by wifi for at least 12 hours.
> 
> The idea is to go via several hops, some of them not having any power
> resource.
> 
> So my questions to the list are:
> 
> - What kind of equipment have you used for similar cases or can you recommend?
> - Are there any battery recommendations?
> - Other creative ideas on how to get a direct link with >= 100 Mbit/s
>  connectivity?
> 
> Best,
> 
> Nico
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --
> Your Swiss, Open Source and IPv6 Virtual Machine. Now on 
> www.datacenterlight.ch.
> 
> 
> 
> --
> 
> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2018 15:58:41 +0200
> From: Andreas Fink 
> To: Nico Schottelius 
> Cc: swinog 
> Subject: Re: [swinog] Battery powered wifi link (20km, multihop)
> Message-ID: <1593479f-df99-4d13-ba96-2d14e7e29...@list.fink.org>
> Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii
> 
> 
> 
>> On 8 Aug 2018, at 15:43, Nico Schottelius  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Hey Swinog,
>> 
>> does anyone have experiences with long distance (~20km) wifi powered
>> by battery?
>> 
>> With have the situation that we basically want to connect Schwanden to
>> Linthal by wifi for at least 12 hours.
>> 
>> The idea is to go via several hops, some of them not having any power
>> resource.
>> 
>> So my questions to the list are:
>> 
>> - What kind of equipment have you used for similar cases or can you 
>> recommend?
>> - Are there any battery recommendations?
>> - Other creative ideas on how to get a direct link with >= 100 Mbit/s
>> connectivity?
>> 
> 
> 
> Given big enough dishes and line of sight, this is achieveable. We had 40km 
> links in rural areas of Iceland working. Its all a question of terrain, 
> interfearance and right equipment.
> As far as power goes, a solar system can help to keep it operational.
> 
>> Best,
>> 
>> Nico
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> --
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>> www.datacenterlight.ch.
>> 
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> --
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> Message: 3
> Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2018 16:33:52 +0200
> From: Matthias Cramer 
> To: 
> Subject: Re: [swinog] Battery powered wifi link (20km, multihop)
> Message-ID: 
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> 
> Hoi Nico
> 
> Mit einem P?rchen Antennen wie diesen an jedem Hop ist das sicher machbar.
> 
> https://mikrotik.com/product/RBLHG-5HPnD
> 
> Als Baterien kannst du z.B. 100AH Autobateriene einsetzen, damit bekommst du 
> ?ber 70h Betriebsdauer mit zwei Antennen...
> 
> Du musst jedoch daf?r sorgen das du zwischen den Antennen freie Sicht hast, 
> sonst wird das nicht wirklich funktionieren.
> 
> Wir haben vor vielen Jahren mal einen WiFi Link zwischen Otelfingen und 
> Regensdorf ohne zwischenhop gemacht (~8km), das hat
> mehrere Jahr stabil funktioniert. War jedoch anderes Equipment.
> 
> Gruss Matthias
> 
> 
>> On 08/08/18 15:43, Nico Schottelius wrote:
>> 
>> Hey Swinog,
>> 
>> does anyone have experiences with long distance (~20km) wifi powered
>> by battery?
>> 
>> With have the situation that we basically want to connect Schwanden to
>> Linthal by wifi for at least 12 hours.
>> 
>> The idea is to go 

[swinog] Swinog-BE166 - Beer Event 166 @ Korner / ZH

[Viktor Steinmann]

Dear SwiNOGers,

Burger Time!

Let's have a tasty Hipster-Burger and a matching beer.

Details for the next event:
---
Event:  Swinog-BE166 - Beer Event 166

When?   Monday, 4th June 2018 18:30

Where?  Korner
Gartenstrasse 10, 8002 Zürich
http://www.gourmetburger.ch
(GoogleMaps Link: http://goo.gl/maps/ivl9b)

Places available? 10

---

Registration:

Start:  Monday, 28th May 2018  - 08:00
Stop:   Friday, 1st June 2018  - 16:00

Reg-URL: http://swinog.be/

---

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If you can't attend and you're registered please inform me ASAP (078 602 95 18).

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[swinog] ##### SwiNOG #33 - Reminder #####

[Simon Ryf]

Dear SwiNOG supporter,

 

Our Agenda is filling up but there are still open slots. Please let us know if 
you would like to contribute for a speech or a lightning Talk (5min).

 

NOTE: we have a slight earlier date for the surprise. Please register until 
Sunday 6th.

 

Registration

https://register.swinog.ch 

If you register until Sunday 06.05.2018 there will be a special surprise for 
you :-)

 

Call for Paper!!

Please send your proposal to swinog-c...@swinog.ch

The 33rd meeting of the Swiss Network Operators Group (SwiNOG) will be held in 
Berne on top of the Gurten on Thursday May 24th 2018.

 

 

Important Dates for SwiNOG#33

01.03.2018 Call for Papers

01.03.2018 Registration opens

30.04.2018 Call for Papers closing

01.05.2018 Publication of the preliminary Agenda

11.05.2018 Final publication of agenda

19.05.2018 Registration closes

22.05.2018 Deadline for all slides

24.05.2018 Meeting day

 

 

Topics for Presentations/Talks

The number and length of presentations per session is not fixed, although due 
to time constraints we would prefer the length of the presentations to be 
between 5 to 45 minutes.

Here is a non-exhaustive list of typical SwiNOG meeting topics:

- Security - DDOS Mitigation - AntiSpam

- IPv6

- Open Source tools

- International view of the internet (incidents, outages, measurements)

- Routing

- Server applications (DNS, Web, etc.)

- Legal issues (B‹PF, etc.)

- Telecommunication politics (Net Neutrality, Incumbent monopoly, etc.)

 

-> PLEASE feel free to talk to us about any kind of topic and collaboration!!!

   You can always start a discussion on the list - I'm sure people join in.

 

Language of Slides and Talks

The whole day will be held in English, therefore we kindly ask you to produce 
your presentation in English.

 

Submission Guidelines

All submissions must have a strong technical bias and must not be solely 
promotional for your employer.

Please remember that your presentations should be suitable for a target 
audience of technicians from varied backgrounds, working for companies whose 
sizes may vary considerably.

To submit a proposal for a presentation, we request that you provide the 
following information to :

 

* the name of the presenter (and if applicable your affiliation)

* a working email-address

* the name and number of the topic which will contain the presentation

* the title of the presentation

* its expected length (in minutes)

* a short abstract of the presentation (so we know what it is about)

 

We also welcome suggestions for specific presentations which you feel would be 
valuable to the SwiNOG community.

Please be aware that your presentation will be published on the SwiNOG website 
after the event. We can publish modified slides if requested - it might be that 
some confidential data will be presented by you which are not intended for 
publication on the internet.

 

Greetings,

Simon Ryf

SwiNOG Core Team

 

 

General Information (SwiNOG Community)

The Swiss Network Operators Group (SwiNOG) is an informal group of people who 
are concerned with engineering and operation of the Swiss Internet.

SwiNOG exists to enhance the quality of Internet services available in 
Switzerland. It does this by fostering the free exchange of technical ideas and 
information between different companies and organisations.

SwiNOG is a community for professionals who are operating, designing or 
researching the Internet. It provides a technical forum where those working on, 
with and for the Internet can come together to solve problems with every aspect 
of their (net)work.

The meeting is designed to provide an opportunity for the exchange of 
information among network operators, engineers, researchers and other 
professionals close to the network community.

 

More information about SwiNOG can be found at http://www.swinog.ch , Facebook, 
Xing, 

Information about the meeting will be published at 
http://www.swinog.ch/meetings/swinog33   

 

General Information (SwiNOG Organisation)

The SwiNOG Organisation Association is a non-profit association under article 
60 and further of the swiss civil law. It manages the SwiNOG community 
resources (domain, web, mailing-lists, etc..) and organises SwiNOG meetings.

 

Contact:

SwiNOG Organisation

8000 Zurich

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[swinog] Swinog-BE165 - Beer Event 165 @ Kings Cave / ZH

[Viktor Steinmann]

Dear SwiNOGers,

This is the rebirth of the legendary SwiNOG Beer Event.

We'll have some nice meat (the John Stone Entrecote is fantastic) and of course 
a nice beer.

Details for the next event:
---
Event:  Swinog-BE165 - Beer Event 165

When?   Monday, 9th April 2018 19:00

Where?  Kings Cave
Central 1, 8001 Zürich
http://central.ch/portfolio_page/kings-cave/
(GoogleMaps Link: http://goo.gl/maps/H1ez7HeF6x72)

Places avaiable? 10

!! Please sign up if you're really coming - because the seats are limited! !!


---

Registration:

Start:  Tuesday, 27th March 2018  - 15:00
Stop:   Thursday, 5th April 2018  - 14:00

Reg-URL: http://swinog.be/

---

Since we have to make reservations, I need to know who's coming and who not.
If you can't attend and you're registered please inform me ASAP (078 602 95 18).

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[swinog] ##### SwiNOG #33 - RegOpen & CFP #####

[Simon Ryf]

Dear SwiNOG supporter,

 

Registration for SwiNOG #33 is open and we’re looking for Papers

https://register.swinog.ch 

If you register until 11.05.2018 there will be a special surprise for you :-)

 

Call for Paper!!

this is the official Call for Paper email. Please send your proposal to 
swinog-c...@swinog.ch

The 33rd meeting of the Swiss Network Operators Group (SwiNOG) will be held in 
Berne on top of the Gurten on Thursday May 24th 2018.

 

 

Important Dates for SwiNOG#33

01.03.2018 Call for Papers

01.03.2018 Registration opens

30.04.2018 Call for Papers closing

11.05.2018 Final publication of agenda

19.05.2018 Registration closes

22.05.2018 Deadline for all slides

24.05.2018 Meeting day

 

 

Topics for Presentations/Talks

The number and length of presentations per session is not fixed, although due 
to time constraints we would prefer the length of the presentations to be 
between 5 to 45 minutes.

Here is a non-exhaustive list of typical SwiNOG meeting topics:

 - Security - DDOS Mitigation - AntiSpam

 - IPv6

 - Open Source tools

 - International view of the internet (incidents, outages, measurements)

 - Routing

 - Server applications (DNS, Web, etc.)

 - Legal issues (B‹PF, etc.)

 - Telecommunication politics (Net Neutrality, Incumbent monopoly, etc.)

 

-> PLEASE feel free to talk to us about any kind of topic and collaboration!!!

   You can always start a discussion on the list - I'm sure people join in.

 

Language of Slides and Talks

The whole day will be held in English, therefore we kindly ask you to produce 
your presentation in English.

 

Submission Guidelines

All submissions must have a strong technical bias and must not be solely 
promotional for your employer.

Please remember that your presentations should be suitable for a target 
audience of technicians from varied backgrounds, working for companies whose 
sizes may vary considerably.

To submit a proposal for a presentation, we request that you provide the 
following information to :

 

* the name of the presenter (and if applicable your affiliation)

* a working email-address

* the name and number of the topic which will contain the presentation

* the title of the presentation

* its expected length (in minutes)

* a short abstract of the presentation (so we know what it is about)

 

We also welcome suggestions for specific presentations which you feel would be 
valuable to the SwiNOG community.

Please be aware that your presentation will be published on the SwiNOG website 
after the event. We can publish modified slides if requested - it might be that 
some confidential data will be presented by you which are not intended for 
publication on the internet.

 

Greetings,

Simon Ryf

SwiNOG Core Team

 

 

General Information (SwiNOG Community)

The Swiss Network Operators Group (SwiNOG) is an informal group of people who 
are concerned with engineering and operation of the Swiss Internet.

SwiNOG exists to enhance the quality of Internet services available in 
Switzerland. It does this by fostering the free exchange of technical ideas and 
information between different companies and organisations.

SwiNOG is a community for professionals who are operating, designing or 
researching the Internet. It provides a technical forum where those working on, 
with and for the Internet can come together to solve problems with every aspect 
of their (net)work.

The meeting is designed to provide an opportunity for the exchange of 
information among network operators, engineers, researchers and other 
professionals close to the network community.

 

More information about SwiNOG can be found at http://www.swinog.ch , Facebook, 
Xing, 

Information about the meeting will be published at 
http://www.swinog.ch/meetings/swinog33   

 

General Information (SwiNOG Organisation)

The SwiNOG Organisation Association is a non-profit association under article 
60 and further of the swiss civil law. It manages the SwiNOG community 
resources (domain, web, mailing-lists, etc..) and organises SwiNOG meetings.

 

Contact:

SwiNOG Organisation

8000 Zurich

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[swinog] SwiNOG#33 - Save the Date 24.05.2018

[Simon Ryf]

Dear SwiNOG’ers

 

This is a reminder that we already accepting CfP’s and that SwiNOG#33 will be 
held Thursday May 24th 2018

If you have any questions regarding SwiNOG or a possible Topic, please write to 
swinog-c...@swinog.ch or to me directly.

 

Topics for Presentations/Talks

---

The number and length of presentations per session is not fixed, although due 
to time constraints we would prefer the length of the presentations to be 
between 5 to 45 minutes.

Here is a non-exhaustive list of typical SwiNOG meeting topics:

- Security - DDOS Mitigation - AntiSpam

- IPv6

- Open Source tools

- International view of the internet (incidents, outages, measurements)

- Routing

- Server applications (DNS, Web, etc.)

- Legal issues (B‹PF, etc.)

- Telecommunication politics (Net Neutrality, Incumbent monopoly, etc.)

 

-> PLEASE feel free to talk to us about any kind of topic and collaboration!!!

   You can always start a discussion on the list - I'm sure people join in.

 

Language of Slides and Talks

---

The whole day will be held in English, therefore we kindly ask you to produce 
your presentation in English.

 

Submission Guidelines

---

All submissions must have a strong technical bias and must not be solely 
promotional for your employer.

Please remember that your presentations should be suitable for a target 
audience of technicians from varied backgrounds, working for companies whose 
sizes may vary considerably.

To submit a proposal for a presentation, we request that you provide the 
following information to :

 

* the name of the presenter (and if applicable your affiliation)

* a working email address

* the name and number of the topic which will contain the presentation

* the title of the presentation

* its expected length (in minutes)

* a short abstract of the presentation (so we know what it is about)

 

We also welcome suggestions for specific presentations which you feel would be 
valuable to the SwiNOG community.

Please be aware that your presentation will be published on the SwiNOG website 
after the event. We can publish modified slides if requested - it might be that 
some confidential data will be presented by you which are not intended for 
publication on the internet.

 

Greetings,

Simon Ryf

SwiNOG Core Team

 

 

General Information (SwiNOG Community)

---

The Swiss Network Operators Group (SwiNOG) is an informal group of people who 
are concerned with engineering and operation of the Swiss Internet.

SwiNOG exists to enhance the quality of Internet services available in 
Switzerland. It does this by fostering the free exchange of technical ideas and 
information between different companies and organisations.

SwiNOG is a community for professionals who are operating, designing or 
researching the Internet. It provides a technical forum where those working on, 
with and for the Internet can come together to solve problems with every aspect 
of their (net)work.

The meeting is designed to provide an opportunity for the exchange of 
information among network operators, engineers, researchers and other 
professionals close to the network community.

 

More information about SwiNOG can be found at http://www.swinog.ch/, Facebook, 
Xing, 

Information about the meeting will be published at 
http://www.swinog.ch/meetings/swinog31/

 

General Information (SwiNOG Organisation)

---

The SwiNOG Organisation Association is a non-profit association under article 
60 and further of the swiss civil law. It manages the SwiNOG community 
ressources (domain, web, mailing-lists, etc..) and organises SwiNOG meetings.

 

Contact:

SwiNOG Organisation

8000 Zurich

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[swinog] ##### SwiNOG#32 - Travel Info #####

[Simon Ryf]

Dear SwiNOG Community,

 

Please find general information about the SwiNOG #32 meeting below.

 

Date: 09.11.2017 - Registration 08h15 - 09h15

Location: Gurtenpark, Bern: https://goo.gl/maps/kuxy4QUrcoy

 

>From Bern main station you may take:

- S-Bahn S3 Belp and exit at Wabern station

- Tram 9 (Wabern) and exit at Gurtenbahn stop

 

Then take the Gurtenbahn to the Gurtenpark.

-> You DO NOT have to pay a fee, just tell you attend to the SwiNOG event.

Don’t throw away the ticket - you'll need it to get back down.

 

Map (Ground Station of the cable rail): https://goo.gl/maps/5uSKtgbianM2

 

Suggested trains from

Geneva:   06h14

Zurich:   07h02

 

WIRELESS ACCESS

During the meeting, you have access to free WLAN!

  

See you at SwiNOG #32!

 

Simon Ryf

SwiNOG Organisation


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Re: [swinog] ##### SwiNOG #32 - Agenda #####

[Simon Ryf]

Dear SwiNOGers

 

Final Agenda is online.

http://www.swinog.ch/meetings/swinog32/index.asp

 

(order can still change)

 

Please hurry up with your registration, we’ll close it this Friday 23:59.

After that, you’ll have to late reg with increased fee.

 

There are still slots for Speed Talks or a 30min talk. If you think you could 
last minute contribute, please let me know. Would be nice :-)

 

Tomorrow I will send you an update with a detailed Agenda including the 
abstracts.

 

Br

Simon

 

 

Important Dates for SwiNOG#31

03.11.2017 Registration closes (only late reg possible after that)

09.11.2017 Meeting day


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[swinog] ##### SwiNOG #32 - Please Submit your Lightning talks #####

[Simon Ryf]

Hey fellows,

 

We’re still a bit short of presentations for the 9th next month. (Yes – I’m the 
one to blame ;)

 

Therefore: Pretty please – submit your lightning talks (or full-blown 
presentations).

 

Anything starting from 5 minutes is a perfect match for SwiNOG.

Don’t hesitate to ask me to narrow down together a topic or get a question 
answered.

 

 

Have a good weekend

Br

Simon

 

From: Simon Ryf 
Date: Friday, 29 September 2017 at 12:19
To: "swi...@swinog.ch" 
Subject: # SwiNOG #32 - Call for Papers #

 

Dear SwiNOG supporter,

 

this is the official Call for Paper email. Please send your proposal to 
swinog-core (at) swinog.ch or directly to me.

The 32nd meeting of the Swiss Network Operators Group (SwiNOG) will be held in 
Berne on top of the Gurten on Thursday November 09 2017.

 

Important Dates for SwiNOG#31

29.09.2017 Call for Papers

03.10.2017 Registration opens

22.10.2017 Call for Papers closing

22.10.2017 Final publication of agenda

03.11.2017 Registration closes

05.11.2017 Deadline for all slides

09.11.2017 Meeting day

 

 

Topics for Presentations/Talks

The number and length of presentations per session is not fixed, although due 
to time constraints we would prefer the length of the presentations to be 
between 5 to 45 minutes.

Here is a non-exhaustive list of typical SwiNOG meeting topics:

- Security - DDOS Mitigation - AntiSpam

- IPv6

- Open Source tools

- International view of the internet (incidents, outages, measurements)

- Routing

- Server applications (DNS, Web, etc.)

- Legal issues (B‹PF, etc.)

- Telecommunication politics (Net Neutrality, Incumbent monopoly, etc.)

 

-> PLEASE feel free to talk to us about any kind of topic and collaboration!!!

   You can always start a discussion on the list - I'm sure people join in.

 

Language of Slides and Talks

The whole day will be held in English, therefore we kindly ask you to produce 
your presentation in English.

 

Submission Guidelines

All submissions must have a strong technical bias and must not be solely 
promotional for your employer.

Please remember that your presentations should be suitable for a target 
audience of technicians from varied backgrounds, working for companies whose 
sizes may vary considerably.

To submit a proposal for a presentation, we request that you provide the 
following information to :

 

* the name of the presenter (and if applicable your affiliation)

* a working email address

* the name and number of the topic which will contain the presentation

* the title of the presentation

* its expected length (in minutes)

* a short abstract of the presentation (so we know what it is about)

 

We also welcome suggestions for specific presentations which you feel would be 
valuable to the SwiNOG community.

Please be aware that your presentation will be published on the SwiNOG website 
after the event. We can publish modified slides if requested - it might be that 
some confidential data will be presented by you which are not intended for 
publication on the internet.

 

Greetings,

Simon Ryf

SwiNOG Core Team

 

 

General Information (SwiNOG Community)

The Swiss Network Operators Group (SwiNOG) is an informal group of people who 
are concerned with engineering and operation of the Swiss Internet.

SwiNOG exists to enhance the quality of Internet services available in 
Switzerland. It does this by fostering the free exchange of technical ideas and 
information between different companies and organisations.

SwiNOG is a community for professionals who are operating, designing or 
researching the Internet. It provides a technical forum where those working on, 
with and for the Internet can come together to solve problems with every aspect 
of their (net)work.

The meeting is designed to provide an opportunity for the exchange of 
information among network operators, engineers, researchers and other 
professionals close to the network community.

 

More information about SwiNOG can be found at http://www.swinog.ch/, Facebook, 
Xing, 

Information about the meeting will be published at 
http://www.swinog.ch/meetings/swinog31/ 

 

General Information (SwiNOG Organisation)

The SwiNOG Organisation Association is a non-profit association under article 
60 and further of the swiss civil law. It manages the SwiNOG community 
ressources (domain, web, mailing-lists, etc..) and organises SwiNOG meetings.

 

Contact:

SwiNOG Organisation

8000 Zurich

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Re: [swinog] ##### SwiNOG #32 - Call for Papers #####

[Steven Glogger]

If someone noticed:
Registration is open ,-)

Speakers please wait for registration, plz contact us - you’re getting a 
voucher.

greetings,

-steven

> Am 29.09.2017 um 12:19 schrieb Simon Ryf <si...@swinog.org>:
> 
> Dear SwiNOG supporter,
>  
> this is the official Call for Paper email. Please send your proposal to 
> swinog-core (at) swinog.ch <http://swinog.ch/> or directly to me.
> The 32nd meeting of the Swiss Network Operators Group (SwiNOG) will be held 
> in Berne on top of the Gurten on Thursday November 09 2017.
>  
> Important Dates for SwiNOG#31
> 29.09.2017 Call for Papers
> 03.10.2017 Registration opens
> 22.10.2017 Call for Papers closing
> 22.10.2017 Final publication of agenda
> 03.11.2017 Registration closes
> 05.11.2017 Deadline for all slides
> 09.11.2017 Meeting day
>  
>  
> Topics for Presentations/Talks
> The number and length of presentations per session is not fixed, although due 
> to time constraints we would prefer the length of the presentations to be 
> between 5 to 45 minutes.
> Here is a non-exhaustive list of typical SwiNOG meeting topics:
> - Security - DDOS Mitigation - AntiSpam
> - IPv6
> - Open Source tools
> - International view of the internet (incidents, outages, measurements)
> - Routing
> - Server applications (DNS, Web, etc.)
> - Legal issues (B‹PF, etc.)
> - Telecommunication politics (Net Neutrality, Incumbent monopoly, etc.)
>  
> -> PLEASE feel free to talk to us about any kind of topic and collaboration!!!
>You can always start a discussion on the list - I'm sure people join in.
>  
> Language of Slides and Talks
> The whole day will be held in English, therefore we kindly ask you to produce 
> your presentation in English.
>  
> Submission Guidelines
> All submissions must have a strong technical bias and must not be solely 
> promotional for your employer.
> Please remember that your presentations should be suitable for a target 
> audience of technicians from varied backgrounds, working for companies whose 
> sizes may vary considerably.
> To submit a proposal for a presentation, we request that you provide the 
> following information to http://swinog.ch/>>:
>  
> * the name of the presenter (and if applicable your affiliation)
> * a working email address
> * the name and number of the topic which will contain the presentation
> * the title of the presentation
> * its expected length (in minutes)
> * a short abstract of the presentation (so we know what it is about)
>  
> We also welcome suggestions for specific presentations which you feel would 
> be valuable to the SwiNOG community.
> Please be aware that your presentation will be published on the SwiNOG 
> website after the event. We can publish modified slides if requested - it 
> might be that some confidential data will be presented by you which are not 
> intended for publication on the internet.
>  
> Greetings,
> Simon Ryf
> SwiNOG Core Team
>  
>  
> General Information (SwiNOG Community)
> The Swiss Network Operators Group (SwiNOG) is an informal group of people who 
> are concerned with engineering and operation of the Swiss Internet.
> SwiNOG exists to enhance the quality of Internet services available in 
> Switzerland. It does this by fostering the free exchange of technical ideas 
> and information between different companies and organisations.
> SwiNOG is a community for professionals who are operating, designing or 
> researching the Internet. It provides a technical forum where those working 
> on, with and for the Internet can come together to solve problems with every 
> aspect of their (net)work.
> The meeting is designed to provide an opportunity for the exchange of 
> information among network operators, engineers, researchers and other 
> professionals close to the network community.
>  
> More information about SwiNOG can be found at http://www.swinog.ch/ 
> <http://www.swinog.ch/>, Facebook, Xing, 
> Information about the meeting will be published at 
> http://www.swinog.ch/meetings/swinog31/ 
> <http://www.swinog.ch/meetings/swinog31/>
>  
> General Information (SwiNOG Organisation)
> The SwiNOG Organisation Association is a non-profit association under article 
> 60 and further of the swiss civil law. It manages the SwiNOG community 
> ressources (domain, web, mailing-lists, etc..) and organises SwiNOG meetings.
>  
> Contact:
> SwiNOG Organisation
> 8000 Zurich
> Switzerland
> 
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[swinog] ##### SwiNOG #32 - Call for Papers #####

[Simon Ryf]

Dear SwiNOG supporter,

 

this is the official Call for Paper email. Please send your proposal to 
swinog-core (at) swinog.ch or directly to me.

The 32nd meeting of the Swiss Network Operators Group (SwiNOG) will be held in 
Berne on top of the Gurten on Thursday November 09 2017.

 

Important Dates for SwiNOG#31

29.09.2017 Call for Papers

03.10.2017 Registration opens

22.10.2017 Call for Papers closing

22.10.2017 Final publication of agenda

03.11.2017 Registration closes

05.11.2017 Deadline for all slides

09.11.2017 Meeting day

 

 

Topics for Presentations/Talks

The number and length of presentations per session is not fixed, although due 
to time constraints we would prefer the length of the presentations to be 
between 5 to 45 minutes.

Here is a non-exhaustive list of typical SwiNOG meeting topics:

 - Security - DDOS Mitigation - AntiSpam

 - IPv6

 - Open Source tools

 - International view of the internet (incidents, outages, measurements)

 - Routing

 - Server applications (DNS, Web, etc.)

 - Legal issues (B‹PF, etc.)

 - Telecommunication politics (Net Neutrality, Incumbent monopoly, etc.)

 

-> PLEASE feel free to talk to us about any kind of topic and collaboration!!!

   You can always start a discussion on the list - I'm sure people join in.

 

Language of Slides and Talks

The whole day will be held in English, therefore we kindly ask you to produce 
your presentation in English.

 

Submission Guidelines

All submissions must have a strong technical bias and must not be solely 
promotional for your employer.

Please remember that your presentations should be suitable for a target 
audience of technicians from varied backgrounds, working for companies whose 
sizes may vary considerably.

To submit a proposal for a presentation, we request that you provide the 
following information to :

 

* the name of the presenter (and if applicable your affiliation)

* a working email address

* the name and number of the topic which will contain the presentation

* the title of the presentation

* its expected length (in minutes)

* a short abstract of the presentation (so we know what it is about)

 

We also welcome suggestions for specific presentations which you feel would be 
valuable to the SwiNOG community.

Please be aware that your presentation will be published on the SwiNOG website 
after the event. We can publish modified slides if requested - it might be that 
some confidential data will be presented by you which are not intended for 
publication on the internet.

 

Greetings,

Simon Ryf

SwiNOG Core Team

 

 

General Information (SwiNOG Community)

The Swiss Network Operators Group (SwiNOG) is an informal group of people who 
are concerned with engineering and operation of the Swiss Internet.

SwiNOG exists to enhance the quality of Internet services available in 
Switzerland. It does this by fostering the free exchange of technical ideas and 
information between different companies and organisations.

SwiNOG is a community for professionals who are operating, designing or 
researching the Internet. It provides a technical forum where those working on, 
with and for the Internet can come together to solve problems with every aspect 
of their (net)work.

The meeting is designed to provide an opportunity for the exchange of 
information among network operators, engineers, researchers and other 
professionals close to the network community.

 

More information about SwiNOG can be found at http://www.swinog.ch/, Facebook, 
Xing, 

Information about the meeting will be published at 
http://www.swinog.ch/meetings/swinog31/ 

 

General Information (SwiNOG Organisation)

The SwiNOG Organisation Association is a non-profit association under article 
60 and further of the swiss civil law. It manages the SwiNOG community 
ressources (domain, web, mailing-lists, etc..) and organises SwiNOG meetings.

 

Contact:

SwiNOG Organisation

8000 Zurich

Switzerland


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Re: [swinog] Swinog-be?

[Aarno Aukia]

Hello SwiNOGers,

This is a reminder for tonights beer event, starting 18:30 at Restaurant
Vorbahnhof at the Zürich HB main station.

Cheers,
Aarno

On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 3:00 PM, Aarno Aukia <m...@arska.ch> wrote:

> Dear SwiNOGers,
>
> After a "short break" lets meet for Swinog-BE 164 Beer & Food at Restaurant 
> Vorbahnhof on Monday September 11, 2017, starting at 18:30.
>
> Details for the next event:
> ---
> Event:Swinog-BE164 - Beer Event 164
>
> When? Monday, 11th September 2017 18:30
>
> Where?  Wirtschaft zum Vorbahnhof
>   Zollstrasse 2, 8005 Zurich
>   http://www.vorbahnhof.ch/speisen-und-getraenke/
>   (GoogleMaps Link: http://https://goo.gl/maps/V98Q5QbSciR2)
>
> Places avaiable? 10
>
>
>
> ---
>
> Registration:
>
> Start:Tuesday, 11th July 2017  - 15:50
> Stop: Monday, 11th September 2017  - 12:00
>
> Reg-URL: http://swinog.be/
>
> ---
>
> Since we have to make reservations, I need to know who's coming and who not.
> If you can't attend and you're registered please inform me ASAP (+41764000464 
> <+41%2076%20400%2004%2064>).
>
> greetings
>
> Aarno Aukia
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 7, 2017 at 10:07 AM, Aarno Aukia <m...@arska.ch> wrote:
>
>> Excellent question ! Lets find a date: https://vshn.doodle.com/
>> poll/9bzsfukcqzfe795k
>>
>> -Aarno
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 6, 2017 at 10:26 AM, Viktor Steinmann <st...@stony.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Guys... is there any news on this topic?
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Viktor
>>>
>>>
>>> On 23.05.2017 20:18, Steven Glogger wrote:
>>>
>>>> Emanuel & Co.
>>>>
>>>> Is there still any beer event?
>>>>
>>>> gruss
>>>>
>>>> -steven
>>>>
>>>>
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Re: [swinog] Swinog-be?

[Aarno Aukia]

Dear SwiNOGers,

After a "short break" lets meet for Swinog-BE 164 Beer & Food at
Restaurant Vorbahnhof on Monday September 11, 2017, starting at 18:30.

Details for the next event:
---
Event:  Swinog-BE164 - Beer Event 164

When?   Monday, 11th September 2017 18:30

Where?Wirtschaft zum Vorbahnhof
Zollstrasse 2, 8005 Zurich
http://www.vorbahnhof.ch/speisen-und-getraenke/
(GoogleMaps Link: http://https://goo.gl/maps/V98Q5QbSciR2)

Places avaiable? 10



---

Registration:

Start:  Tuesday, 11th July 2017  - 15:50
Stop:   Monday, 11th September 2017  - 12:00

Reg-URL: http://swinog.be/

---

Since we have to make reservations, I need to know who's coming and who not.
If you can't attend and you're registered please inform me ASAP (+41764000464).

greetings

Aarno Aukia



On Fri, Jul 7, 2017 at 10:07 AM, Aarno Aukia <m...@arska.ch> wrote:

> Excellent question ! Lets find a date: https://vshn.doodle.com/
> poll/9bzsfukcqzfe795k
>
> -Aarno
>
> On Thu, Jul 6, 2017 at 10:26 AM, Viktor Steinmann <st...@stony.com> wrote:
>
>> Guys... is there any news on this topic?
>>
>> Regards,
>> Viktor
>>
>>
>> On 23.05.2017 20:18, Steven Glogger wrote:
>>
>>> Emanuel & Co.
>>>
>>> Is there still any beer event?
>>>
>>> gruss
>>>
>>> -steven
>>>
>>>
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Re: [swinog] Swinog-be?

[Aarno Aukia]

Excellent question ! Lets find a date:
https://vshn.doodle.com/poll/9bzsfukcqzfe795k

-Aarno

On Thu, Jul 6, 2017 at 10:26 AM, Viktor Steinmann <st...@stony.com> wrote:

> Guys... is there any news on this topic?
>
> Regards,
> Viktor
>
>
> On 23.05.2017 20:18, Steven Glogger wrote:
>
>> Emanuel & Co.
>>
>> Is there still any beer event?
>>
>> gruss
>>
>> -steven
>>
>>
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>>
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Re: [swinog] Swinog-be?

[Martin Ebnoether]

On the Thu, Jul 06, 2017 at 01:41:59PM +0200, Jeroen Massar blubbered:

Hallo.

> > Guys... is there any news on this topic?
> 
> But if you like beer... http://www.beerontuesday.ch/ ;)
> 
> Different place(s), different beers, minimally different people as they
> are more 'security' oriented, but same goals: better networking, good
> talk and... well beer and other drinks ;)

Beer is a great topic! I have an alternative as well:

http://www.fress-und-sauf-verein.ch/lugs/termine/

We usually have dinner in a Restaurant around the Roeschtibach
Hackerspace after the meeting. :)

CU, Venty

-- 
„Wollen Sie mir gütigst sagen,“ fragte Alice etwas furchtsam, 
denn sie wusste nicht recht, ob es sich für sie schicke zuerst
zu sprechen, „warum Ihre Katze so grinst?“ 
„Es ist eine Grinse-Katze,“ sagte die Herzogin, „darum!“    


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Re: [swinog] Swinog-be?

[Jeroen Massar]

On 2017-07-06 09:26, Viktor Steinmann wrote:
> Guys... is there any news on this topic?

Over the years the ML is slowly pacing down, likely having to do with
merging companies and people getting more busy with their private lives.

But if you like beer... http://www.beerontuesday.ch/ ;)

Different place(s), different beers, minimally different people as they
are more 'security' oriented, but same goals: better networking, good
talk and... well beer and other drinks ;)

Greets,
 Jeroen



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Re: [swinog] Swinog-be?

[Viktor Steinmann]

Guys... is there any news on this topic?

Regards,
Viktor

On 23.05.2017 20:18, Steven Glogger wrote:

Emanuel & Co.

Is there still any beer event?

gruss

-steven


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[swinog] SwiNOG#31 - Pre-Event today & travel info

[Simon Ryf]

Dear Friends,

 

For those of you who are already arriving today we have a pre-event with beer 
and food in the city of Bern.

If you would like to attend, please let us know by mail or phone so we can meet 
up.

 
We’ll meet around 19:00 for apéro in the Bar ‘Leichtsinn’ 
http://www.leichtsinn.ch/kontakt/
 
There we decide spontaneously where we want to go to eat :)
 
After Dinner, we are at ~ 22:00 o'clock to have some fine drinks, wine, beer 
and whiskey at the 'Kornhauskeller' (just around)
(http://www.bindella.ch/de/kornhauskeller.html)
  

Please find general information about the SwiNOG #31 meeting below.

 

Date: 30.05.2017 - Registration 08h15 - 09h15

Location: Gurtenpark, Bern: https://goo.gl/maps/kuxy4QUrcoy 

 

>From Bern main station you may take:

- S-Bahn S3 Belp and exit at Wabern station

- Tram 9 (Wabern) and exit at Gurtenbahn stop

 

Then take the Gurtenbahn to the Gurtenpark.

-> You DO NOT have to pay a fee, just tell you attend to the SwiNOG event.

Don’t throw away the ticket - you'll need it to get back down.

 

Map (Ground Station of the cable rail): https://goo.gl/maps/5uSKtgbianM2

 

Suggested trains from

Geneva:   06h14

Zurich:   07h02

 

WIRELESS ACCESS

During the meeting, you have access to free WLAN!

  

Many thanks to our sponsors of this event!

Huawei and Mellanox

 

See you at SwiNOG #31!

 

Simon Ryf

SwiNOG Organisation

+41 79 370 41 57


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[swinog] ## SwiNOG #31 - LAST CALL - Register now##

[Simon Ryf]

Dear SwiNOGers

Registration is closing tomorrow 23:59 after that only late reg with increased 
fee is possible.

We added two more speeches since the last info mail. I guess we have now a 
worthwhile agenda – thanks again to all the contributors.

Tell your friends and hope to see you soon.

Br
Simon
SwiNOG


On 02.02.17, 11:10, "Simon Ryf"  wrote:

Sorry, in the last mail the dates where all wrong…
Now corrected and verified :-)


Dear SwiNOG supporter,

this is the official Call for Paper email. Please send your proposal to 
swinog-core (at) swinog.ch or directly to me.
The 31st meeting of the Swiss Network Operators Group (SwiNOG) will be held 
in Berne on top of the Gurten on Mai 30th 2017.


Important Dates for SwiNOG#31
---
24.05.2017 Registration closes
28.05.2017 Deadline for all slides
30.05.2017 Meeting day


Topics for Presentations/Talks
---
The number and length of presentations per session is not fixed, although 
due to time constraints we would prefer the length of the presentations to be 
between 5 to 45 minutes.
Here is a non-exhaustive list of typical SwiNOG meeting topics:
 - Security - DDOS Mitigation - AntiSpam
 - IPv6
 - Open Source tools
 - International view of the internet (incidents, outages, measurements)
 - Routing
 - Server applications (DNS, Web, etc.)
 - Legal issues (B‹PF, etc.)
 - Telecommunication politics (Net Neutrality, Incumbent monopoly, etc.)

-> PLEASE feel free to talk to us about any kind of topic and 
collaboration!!!
   You can always start a discussion on the list - I'm sure people join in.

Language of Slides and Talks
---
The whole day will be held in English, therefore we kindly ask you to 
produce your presentation in English.

Submission Guidelines
---
All submissions must have a strong technical bias and must not be solely 
promotional for your employer.
Please remember that your presentations should be suitable for a target 
audience of technicians from varied backgrounds, working for companies whose 
sizes may vary considerably.
To submit a proposal for a presentation, we request that you provide the 
following information to :

* the name of the presenter (and if applicable your affiliation)
* a working email address
* the name and number of the topic which will contain the presentation
* the title of the presentation
* its expected length (in minutes)
* a short abstract of the presentation (so we know what it is about)

We also welcome suggestions for specific presentations which you feel would 
be valuable to the SwiNOG community.
Please be aware that your presentation will be published on the SwiNOG 
website after the event. We can publish modified slides if requested - it might 
be that some confidential data will be presented by you which are not intended 
for publication on the internet.

Greetings,
Simon Ryf
SwiNOG Core Team


General Information (SwiNOG Community)
---
The Swiss Network Operators Group (SwiNOG) is an informal group of people 
who are concerned with engineering and operation of the Swiss Internet.
SwiNOG exists to enhance the quality of Internet services available in 
Switzerland. It does this by fostering the free exchange of technical ideas and 
information between different companies and organisations.
SwiNOG is a community for professionals who are operating, designing or 
researching the Internet. It provides a technical forum where those working on, 
with and for the Internet can come together to solve problems with every aspect 
of their (net)work.
The meeting is designed to provide an opportunity for the exchange of 
information among network operators, engineers, researchers and other 
professionals close to the network community.

More information about SwiNOG can be found at http://www.swinog.ch/, 
Facebook, Xing, 
Information about the meeting will be published at 
http://www.swinog.ch/meetings/swinog31/ 

General Information (SwiNOG Organisation)
---
The SwiNOG Organisation Association is a non-profit association under 
article 60 and further of the swiss civil law. It manages the SwiNOG community 
ressources (domain, web, mailing-lists, etc..) and organises SwiNOG meetings.

Contact:
SwiNOG Organisation
8000 Zurich
Switzerland




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[swinog] Swinog-be?

[Steven Glogger]

Emanuel & Co.

Is there still any beer event?

gruss

-steven


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[swinog] SwiNOG #31 - Call for Papers !Dates Corrected!

[Simon Ryf]

Sorry, in the last mail the dates where all wrong…
Now corrected and verified :-)


Dear SwiNOG supporter,

this is the official Call for Paper email. Please send your proposal to 
swinog-core (at) swinog.ch or directly to me.
The 31st meeting of the Swiss Network Operators Group (SwiNOG) will be held in 
Berne on top of the Gurten on Mai 30th 2017.


Important Dates for SwiNOG#31
---
02.02.2017 Call for Papers
16.02.2017 Registration opens
24.04.2017 Call for Papers closing
05.05.2017 Final publication of agenda
23.05.2017 Registration closes
28.05.2017 Deadline for all slides
30.05.2017 Meeting day


Topics for Presentations/Talks
---
The number and length of presentations per session is not fixed, although due 
to time constraints we would prefer the length of the presentations to be 
between 5 to 45 minutes.
Here is a non-exhaustive list of typical SwiNOG meeting topics:
 - Security - DDOS Mitigation - AntiSpam
 - IPv6
 - Open Source tools
 - International view of the internet (incidents, outages, measurements)
 - Routing
 - Server applications (DNS, Web, etc.)
 - Legal issues (B‹PF, etc.)
 - Telecommunication politics (Net Neutrality, Incumbent monopoly, etc.)

-> PLEASE feel free to talk to us about any kind of topic and collaboration!!!
   You can always start a discussion on the list - I'm sure people join in.

Language of Slides and Talks
---
The whole day will be held in English, therefore we kindly ask you to produce 
your presentation in English.

Submission Guidelines
---
All submissions must have a strong technical bias and must not be solely 
promotional for your employer.
Please remember that your presentations should be suitable for a target 
audience of technicians from varied backgrounds, working for companies whose 
sizes may vary considerably.
To submit a proposal for a presentation, we request that you provide the 
following information to :

* the name of the presenter (and if applicable your affiliation)
* a working email address
* the name and number of the topic which will contain the presentation
* the title of the presentation
* its expected length (in minutes)
* a short abstract of the presentation (so we know what it is about)

We also welcome suggestions for specific presentations which you feel would be 
valuable to the SwiNOG community.
Please be aware that your presentation will be published on the SwiNOG website 
after the event. We can publish modified slides if requested - it might be that 
some confidential data will be presented by you which are not intended for 
publication on the internet.

Greetings,
Simon Ryf
SwiNOG Core Team


General Information (SwiNOG Community)
---
The Swiss Network Operators Group (SwiNOG) is an informal group of people who 
are concerned with engineering and operation of the Swiss Internet.
SwiNOG exists to enhance the quality of Internet services available in 
Switzerland. It does this by fostering the free exchange of technical ideas and 
information between different companies and organisations.
SwiNOG is a community for professionals who are operating, designing or 
researching the Internet. It provides a technical forum where those working on, 
with and for the Internet can come together to solve problems with every aspect 
of their (net)work.
The meeting is designed to provide an opportunity for the exchange of 
information among network operators, engineers, researchers and other 
professionals close to the network community.

More information about SwiNOG can be found at http://www.swinog.ch/, Facebook, 
Xing, 
Information about the meeting will be published at 
http://www.swinog.ch/meetings/swinog31/ 

General Information (SwiNOG Organisation)
---
The SwiNOG Organisation Association is a non-profit association under article 
60 and further of the swiss civil law. It manages the SwiNOG community 
ressources (domain, web, mailing-lists, etc..) and organises SwiNOG meetings.

Contact:
SwiNOG Organisation
8000 Zurich
Switzerland

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[swinog] SwiNOG #31 - Call for Papers

[Simon Ryf]

Dear SwiNOG supporter,

this is the official Call for Paper email. Please send your proposal to 
swinog-core (at) swinog.ch or directly to me.
The 31th meeting of the Swiss Network Operators Group (SwiNOG) will be held in 
Berne on top of the Gurten on Mai 5th 2017.


Important Dates for SwiNOG#31
---
02.02.2017 Call for Papers
06.02.2017 Registration opens
17.04.2017 Call for Papers closing
21.04.2017 Final publication of agenda
28.04.2017 Registration closes
03.05.2017 Deadline for all slides
04.05.2017 Meeting day


Topics for Presentations/Talks
---
The number and length of presentations per session is not fixed, although due 
to time constraints we would prefer the length of the presentations to be 
between 5 to 45 minutes.
Here is a non-exhaustive list of typical SwiNOG meeting topics:
 - Security - DDOS Mitigation - AntiSpam
 - IPv6
 - Open Source tools
 - International view of the internet (incidents, outages, measurements)
 - Routing
 - Server applications (DNS, Web, etc.)
 - Legal issues (B‹PF, etc.)
 - Telecommunication politics (Net Neutrality, Incumbent monopoly, etc.)

-> PLEASE feel free to talk to us about any kind of topic and collaboration!!!
   You can always start a discussion on the list - I'm sure people join in.

Language of Slides and Talks
---
The whole day will be held in English, therefore we kindly ask you to produce 
your presentation in English.

Submission Guidelines
---
All submissions must have a strong technical bias and must not be solely 
promotional for your employer.
Please remember that your presentations should be suitable for a target 
audience of technicians from varied backgrounds, working for companies whose 
sizes may vary considerably.
To submit a proposal for a presentation, we request that you provide the 
following information to :

* the name of the presenter (and if applicable your affiliation)
* a working email address
* the name and number of the topic which will contain the presentation
* the title of the presentation
* its expected length (in minutes)
* a short abstract of the presentation (so we know what it is about)

We also welcome suggestions for specific presentations which you feel would be 
valuable to the SwiNOG community.
Please be aware that your presentation will be published on the SwiNOG website 
after the event. We can publish modified slides if requested - it might be that 
some confidential data will be presented by you which are not intended for 
publication on the internet.

Greetings,
Simon Ryf
SwiNOG Core Team


General Information (SwiNOG Community)
---
The Swiss Network Operators Group (SwiNOG) is an informal group of people who 
are concerned with engineering and operation of the Swiss Internet.
SwiNOG exists to enhance the quality of Internet services available in 
Switzerland. It does this by fostering the free exchange of technical ideas and 
information between different companies and organisations.
SwiNOG is a community for professionals who are operating, designing or 
researching the Internet. It provides a technical forum where those working on, 
with and for the Internet can come together to solve problems with every aspect 
of their (net)work.
The meeting is designed to provide an opportunity for the exchange of 
information among network operators, engineers, researchers and other 
professionals close to the network community.

More information about SwiNOG can be found at http://www.swinog.ch/, Facebook, 
Xing, 
Information about the meeting will be published at 
http://www.swinog.ch/meetings/swinog31/ 

General Information (SwiNOG Organisation)
---
The SwiNOG Organisation Association is a non-profit association under article 
60 and further of the swiss civil law. It manages the SwiNOG community 
ressources (domain, web, mailing-lists, etc..) and organises SwiNOG meetings.

Contact:
SwiNOG Organisation
8000 Zurich
Switzerland

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Re: [swinog] SwiNOG-BE163 - Beer Event 163 @ Don Weber Zurich, TUESDAY, 2017-01-31

[Emanuel Kleindienst]

And it's working again! Thanks Steve!
Pls. register here: http://swinog.be/

Looking forward seeing you!

Cheers,

Emanuel


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T: +41 44 545 53 00 | M: +41 79 382 73 77 | https://vshn.ch
Talk to me! https://doodle.com/VSHNemanuel


-Original Message-
From: Emanuel Kleindienst [mailto:emanuel.kleindie...@vshn.ch] 
Sent: Mittwoch, 25. Januar 2017 12:43
To: swinog@lists.swinog.ch
Cc: b...@flachmueller.ch
Subject: SwiNOG-BE163 - Beer Event 163 @ Don Weber Zurich, TUESDAY, 2017-01-31

Dear SwiNOGers,

Let's have some Beer & Food at Don Weber!

Upcoming events for rest of 2017:
We'll prep the complete agenda while sitting together next TUESDAY!


Looking forward seeing you!

Emanuel, Mobile +41 79 382 73 77, Email eman...@vshn.ch

Details for the next event:
---
Event:  SwiNOG-BE163 - Beer Event 163

When?   TUESDAY, 31th January 2017 18:30

Where?  Don Weber
Heinrichstrasse 213, 8005 Zürich
http://www.donweber.ch/
(GoogleMaps Link: http://goo.gl/maps/PqOPb)

Places available? 8

As Steve's mighty SwiNOG Beering registration tools seems to be broken / 
offline, pls. register by email to me!

Cheers,

Emanuel Kleindienst


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[swinog] SwiNOG-BE163 - Beer Event 163 @ Don Weber Zurich, TUESDAY, 2017-01-31

[Emanuel Kleindienst]

Dear SwiNOGers,

Let's have some Beer & Food at Don Weber!

Upcoming events for rest of 2017:
We'll prep the complete agenda while sitting together next TUESDAY!


Looking forward seeing you!

Emanuel, Mobile +41 79 382 73 77, Email eman...@vshn.ch

Details for the next event:
---
Event:  SwiNOG-BE163 - Beer Event 163

When?   TUESDAY, 31th January 2017 18:30

Where?  Don Weber
Heinrichstrasse 213, 8005 Zürich
http://www.donweber.ch/
(GoogleMaps Link: http://goo.gl/maps/PqOPb)

Places available? 8

As Steve's mighty SwiNOG Beering registration tools seems to be broken / 
offline, pls. register by email to me!

Cheers,

Emanuel Kleindienst


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Re: [swinog] SwiNOG-BE162 - Beer Event 162 - Christmas Dinner @ Chässtube Rehalp / ZH, Monday, 2016-12-12

[Emanuel Kleindienst]

2 seats left, registration open 'till 6 p.m. tonight!
Girls warmly welcome!!! (as IPv6-Silvia seems to be the only women attending 
for now...)


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-Original Message-
From: Emanuel Kleindienst [mailto:emanuel.kleindie...@vshn.ch] 
Sent: Mittwoch, 26. Oktober 2016 10:27
To: swinog@lists.swinog.ch
Cc: b...@flachmueller.ch
Subject: SwiNOG-BE162 - Beer Event 162 - Christmas Dinner @ Chässtube Rehalp / 
ZH, Monday, 2016-12-12

Christmas Dinner

Dear SwiNOGers,

Let's have our Christmas Dinner with Cheese fondue, Kirsch and beer (if you 
like) at Rehalp!!!
Place limit 12 for now, may be extended to 15 max.

Upcoming events for 2017 will be announced shortly.

Looking forward seeing you!

Emanuel, Mobile +41 79 382 73 77, Email eman...@vshn.ch

Details for the next event:
---
Event:  SwiNOG-BE162 - Beer Event 162 - Christmas Dinner

When?   Monday, 12th December 2016 18:30

Where?  Chässtube Rehalp
Forchstrasse 359, 8008 Zürich, Tel. +41 44 381 01 80
http://www.chaesstube-rehalp.ch
(GoogleMaps Link: http://goo.gl/maps/ur3Lq)

Places avaiable? 12

!! Please sign up if you're really coming - because the seats are limited! !!


---

Registration:

Start:  Wednesday, 26th October 2016  - 10:00
Stop:   Friday, 9th December 2016  - 18:00

Reg-URL: http://swinog.be/

---

Since we have to make reservations, I need to know who's coming and who not.
If you can't attend and you're registered please inform me ASAP (+41 79 382 73 
77).

greetings

Emanuel Kleindienst



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Re: [swinog] SwiNOG-BE161 - Beer Event 161 @ Restaurant St. Gallerhof, Zurich central station, Monday, 2016-11-28

[Silvia Hagen]

Vor allem wenn es Fondue gibt - my two cents

:-)

Silvia

-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: swinog-boun...@lists.swinog.ch [mailto:swinog-boun...@lists.swinog.ch] Im 
Auftrag von Klaus Ethgen
Gesendet: Freitag, 25. November 2016 17:06
An: swinog@lists.swinog.ch
Betreff: Re: [swinog] SwiNOG-BE161 - Beer Event 161 @ Restaurant St. Gallerhof, 
Zurich central station, Monday, 2016-11-28

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Ah, das klappt mir schon wieder nicht.

Würde euch schon gerne mal in live kennenlernen.

Mal sehen, ob es zum Weihnachtsdinner klappt. Essen ist eigentlich immer gut. 
;-)

Gruß
   Klaus
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Re: [swinog] SwiNOG-BE161 - Beer Event 161 @ Restaurant St. Gallerhof, Zurich central station, Monday, 2016-11-28

[Klaus Ethgen]

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Hash: SHA512

Ah, das klappt mir schon wieder nicht.

Würde euch schon gerne mal in live kennenlernen.

Mal sehen, ob es zum Weihnachtsdinner klappt. Essen ist eigentlich immer
gut. ;-)

Gruß
   Klaus
- -- 
Klaus Ethgen   http://www.ethgen.ch/
pub  4096R/4E20AF1C 2011-05-16Klaus Ethgen 
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Re: [swinog] SwiNOG-BE161 - Beer Event 161 @ Restaurant St. Gallerhof, Zurich central station, Monday, 2016-11-28

[Emanuel Kleindienst]

And if things happen in a hurry, things WILL go wrong anyway. :D

Using the registration link below, you'll hit the registration for the 
Christmas Dinner and NOT the upcoming beering next Monday.
So, pls. register by email as Xaver, Candid and Ulf have already done.

Thanks and sorry again.

Have a great weekend,

Emanuel


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-Original Message-
From: Emanuel Kleindienst [mailto:emanuel.kleindie...@vshn.ch] 
Sent: Freitag, 25. November 2016 15:12
To: swinog@lists.swinog.ch
Cc: b...@flachmueller.ch
Subject: SwiNOG-BE161 - Beer Event 161 @ Restaurant St. Gallerhof, Zurich 
central station, Monday, 2016-11-28

Dear SwiNOGers,

Late invitation, I'm sorry... Busy times...

Let's have some Beer & Food at Restaurant St. Gallerhof!

Upcoming events for rest of 2016:
> SwiNOG-BE162: Mo, 12.12.16 (Christmas dinner)

Looking forward seeing you!

Emanuel, Mobile +41 79 382 73 77, Email eman...@vshn.ch

Details for the next event:
---
Event:  SwiNOG-BE161 - Beer Event 161

When?   Monday, 28th November 2016 18:30

Where?  Restaurant St. Gallerhof
Konradstrasse 2, 8005 Zürich, Tel. +41 44 271 52 60
http://www.st-gallerhof.ch/gallerhof-menu#opentab
(GoogleMaps Link: http://https://goo.gl/maps/woZhreAFm5x)

Places available? 8

!! Please sign up if you're really coming - because the seats are limited! !!

---

Registration:

Start:  Friday, 25th November 2016  - 15:00
Stop:   Monday, 28th November 2016  - 17:00

Reg-URL: http://swinog.be/

---

Since we have to make reservations, I need to know who's coming and who's not.
If you can't attend and you're registered please inform me ASAP (+41 79 382 73 
77).

Cheers,

Emanuel Kleindienst


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[swinog] SwiNOG-BE161 - Beer Event 161 @ Restaurant St. Gallerhof, Zurich central station, Monday, 2016-11-28

[Emanuel Kleindienst]

Dear SwiNOGers,

Late invitation, I'm sorry... Busy times...

Let's have some Beer & Food at Restaurant St. Gallerhof!

Upcoming events for rest of 2016:
> SwiNOG-BE162: Mo, 12.12.16 (Christmas dinner)

Looking forward seeing you!

Emanuel, Mobile +41 79 382 73 77, Email eman...@vshn.ch

Details for the next event:
---
Event:  SwiNOG-BE161 - Beer Event 161

When?   Monday, 28th November 2016 18:30

Where?  Restaurant St. Gallerhof
Konradstrasse 2, 8005 Zürich, Tel. +41 44 271 52 60
http://www.st-gallerhof.ch/gallerhof-menu#opentab
(GoogleMaps Link: http://https://goo.gl/maps/woZhreAFm5x)

Places available? 8

!! Please sign up if you're really coming - because the seats are limited! !!

---

Registration:

Start:  Friday, 25th November 2016  - 15:00
Stop:   Monday, 28th November 2016  - 17:00

Reg-URL: http://swinog.be/

---

Since we have to make reservations, I need to know who's coming and who's not.
If you can't attend and you're registered please inform me ASAP (+41 79 382 73 
77).

Cheers,

Emanuel Kleindienst


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[swinog] SwiNOG #30 is this friday - last information!

[Steven Glogger]

Dear Participants and Speakers
 
Please find general information about the SwiNOG #30 meeting below.
 
Date: 04.11.2016 - Registration 08h15 - 09h15

Location: Gurtenpark, Bern. 
NEW Location: it’s now closer to the station. Follow the signs - like last time.
 
From Bern main station you may take:
- S-Bahn S3 Belp and exit at Wabern station
- Tram 9 (Wabern) and exit at Gurtenbahn stop
(Use the new SBB App for best planning :))
 
—> Then take the Gurtenbahn to the Gurtenpark. You DO NOT have to pay a fee, 
just tell you attend to the SwiNOG event. Don’t throw away the ticket - you'll 
need it to get down.
 
 
Map (Ground Station of the cable rail): https://goo.gl/maps/5uSKtgbianM2
 
Suggested trains from
Geneva:   06h12
Zurich:  07h02
 
 
WIRELESS ACCESS
During the meeting you have access to free WLAN!
 
- SSID: Swisscom
- Credentials will be printed on your badge
- YOU are responsible for the security of your data, this WLAN is not encrypted!
 
 
Many thanks to our sponsor Juniper!

 
See you at SwiNOG #30!
 
Steven, Roman & Simon
SwiNOG Organisation

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[swinog] SwiNOG-BE162 - Beer Event 162 - Christmas Dinner @ Chässtube Rehalp / ZH, Monday, 2016-12-12

[Emanuel Kleindienst]

Christmas Dinner

Dear SwiNOGers,

Let's have our Christmas Dinner with Cheese fondue, Kirsch and beer (if you 
like) at Rehalp!!!
Place limit 12 for now, may be extended to 15 max.

Upcoming events for 2017 will be announced shortly.

Looking forward seeing you!

Emanuel, Mobile +41 79 382 73 77, Email eman...@vshn.ch

Details for the next event:
---
Event:  SwiNOG-BE162 - Beer Event 162 - Christmas Dinner

When?   Monday, 12th December 2016 18:30

Where?  Chässtube Rehalp
Forchstrasse 359, 8008 Zürich, Tel. +41 44 381 01 80
http://www.chaesstube-rehalp.ch
(GoogleMaps Link: http://goo.gl/maps/ur3Lq)

Places avaiable? 12

!! Please sign up if you're really coming - because the seats are limited! !!


---

Registration:

Start:  Wednesday, 26th October 2016  - 10:00
Stop:   Friday, 9th December 2016  - 18:00

Reg-URL: http://swinog.be/

---

Since we have to make reservations, I need to know who's coming and who not.
If you can't attend and you're registered please inform me ASAP (+41 79 382 73 
77).

greetings

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[swinog] SwiNOG-BE160 - Beer Event 160 @ Don Weber Zurich, Monday, 2016-10-24

[Emanuel Kleindienst]

Dear SwiNOGers,

Let's have some Beer & Food at Don Weber!

Upcoming events for rest of 2016:
> SwiNOG-BE161: Mo, 28.11.16
> SwiNOG-BE162: Mo, 12.12.16 (Christmas dinner)

Looking forward seeing you!

Emanuel, Mobile +41 79 382 73 77, Email eman...@vshn.ch

Details for the next event:
---
Event:  SwiNOG-BE160 - Beer Event 160

When?   Monday, 24th October 2016 18:30

Where?  Don Weber
Heinrichstrasse 213, 8005 Zürich
http://www.donweber.ch/
(GoogleMaps Link: http://goo.gl/maps/PqOPb)

Places available? 12

!! Please sign up if you're really coming - because the seats are limited! !!


---

Registration:

Start:  Friday, 20th October 2016  - 16:15
Stop:   Monday, 24th August 2016  - 16:30

Reg-URL: http://swinog.be/

---

Since we have to make reservations, I need to know who's coming and who's not.
If you can't attend and you're registered please inform me ASAP (+41 79 382 73 
77).

Cheers,

Emanuel Kleindienst



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[swinog] ## SwiNOG #30 - 04.11.2015 - Agenda ##

[Simon Ryf]

Hello dear SwiNOG community

 

We finally have the agenda released for SwiNOG #30 on the Friday 04.11.2015
on top of Gurten.

 

Please register NOW.

https://register.swinog.ch/

 

Agenda

http://www.swinog.ch/meetings/swinog30/agenda.asp

 

 

IoT Security and the Role of the Thing Manufacturer | Eliot Lear (Cisco
Systems)

While there are predictions of 50bn connected devices by 2020, we do not
know how to count the number of types of things.  Mechanisms are needed to
facilitate connectivity of these devices in a safe and secure way.  Both
manufacturers and network managers can take steps to see that devices remain
secure.  This presentation will discuss those roles and two emerging
concepts: a bootstrapping mechanism called ANIMA, and way to describe what
communications a device is designed to have known as Manufacturer Usage
Descriptions.

 

StackStrom & ChatOps | David Gee (Brocade)

Thank you to the internet, we have a button that can be used to order
anything from Amazon. Facebook receives millions of pictures a day (mostly
of cats doing things) and Twitter has infiltrated main stream media.
Enterprise IT is falling like an empire once great, almost crumbling within
from the pressure of change.

 

Simplify the lifecycle of your cloud with Mirantis Cloud Platform (MCP) |
Ivan Ostojic (Juniper)

Mirantis brings their Openstack solution with MCP to a next level. To
dramatically simplify the lifecycle process, MCP introduces containers
orchestrated by Kubernetes. Additionally, a much more scalable SDN
controller was needed whereby MCP replaced OVS Neutron by Juniper
OpenContrail. This session will explain why Mirantis was looking for a new
architecture and covers the details about MCP itself.

 

Why you should take care of the network(s) around you or DDoS Suckz | Will
van Gulik (IP-Max SA)

Lesson learned from a DDoS at the end of 2015, and best practice to
implement to make internet a better place.

 

SwissIX Update | Ulf Kieber (SwissIX)

SwissIX Update

 

Whats new with RRDtool and other stories from Tobi Oetiker GitHub account |
Tobi Oetiker (OETIKER+PARTNER AG)

New tweaks and features of RRDtool and some fancy new tools released on my
GitHub account

 

Swiss NREN protection with DNS RPZ | Matthias Seitz (SWITCH)

SWITCH has introduced a service based on DNS Response Policy Zone in the
Swiss NREN. DNS RPZ extends the DNS with a firewall function that denies
access to malicious domains. With this function, malware infection on users'
devices and requests for phishing sites will be prevented. In addition,
already infected systems can be detected. Furthermore, the user’s awareness
is increased through redirecting the user to an information page.

 

The DNS Toolbox | Jeroen Massar (Farsight Security, Inc.)

Presenting a DNS Toolbox, various techniques to make your network safer for
you and your users and that you likely already have installed:

- RRL: Response Rate Limiting

- RPZ: Response Policy Zones

- dnstap: Tap the DNS

- Passive DNS: View what the Internet has been doing I'll also explain how
Passive DNS does involve minimal PII in the labels, but due to the location
where one dnstaps does not affect privacy.

 

RFC3021 | Silvan M. Gebhardt (Openfactory)

I would like to share some of my experience with RFC3021 and I would like to
hear a bit from the crowd how they stand to it and why and what they know
about it.

 

How scary is DNSSEC? | Massimiliano Stucchi (RIPE NCC)

DNSSEC is a set of extensions for DNS to make it more secure.

It involves cryptography, PKI, and a new set of tools to manage it.

This talk tries to demistify all the myths about DNSSEC and show that it
actually is simpler than it sounds by introducing some of the basics and
providing a live example of two key rollovers on a real domain name done on
stage.

 

How to increase availability using ExaBGP | André Keller & Manuel Schweizer
(VSHN & CloudScale.ch AG)

 

Social Event | Everyone (SwiNOG Community)

Yeah - you all know this one ;-) – never gets boring

 

 

Looking so forward to seeing all of you 

 

Simon

SwiNOG


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Re: [swinog] SwiNOG #30 - 4th November 2016 - (Calling for Papers)

[Roger]

But if we only have java developers here who usually encode a boolean 
into a UTF16 string into XML over SOAP over HTTP over a 10G fiber 
link, then it would be a waste of time of course.



you gona get hated by java  programmer,
but for me i could say only  FULL ACK! :D




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Re: [swinog] SwiNOG #30 - 4th November 2016 - (Calling for Papers)

[Andreas Fink]

> Am 14.09.2016 um 18:33 schrieb Jeroen Massar :
> 
> On 2016-09-14 18:13, Andreas Fink wrote:
>> I could do a presentation on the SCTP networking protocol which combines
>> some features of TCP and UDP and offers some unique features neither TCP
>> nor UDP have.
> 
> Is there any tool that actually uses SCTP ? :)

I'm using it day in day out since 15 years. And theres no alternative to it for 
me. The Sigtran family (SS7 signalling over IP) requires it mandatory. Theres 
no other option there. SCTP was mainly developed because signalling over IP 
needed reliable multipath support. So protocols which 100% depend on SCTP are 
at least M2UA, M2PA, M3UA, SUA, IUA.

> IPFIX is supposed to use it, but everybody still sends over UDP, rare
> support for SCTP (except for purists like me who did implement it and
> then also never really used it).

Great. why did you not use it? UDP is not a reliable datagram service. SCTP is.

> WebRTC is supposed to go partially over SCTP, never seen it actually used.

WebRTC requires it (but can work around by encapsulating it into UDP which just 
means more useless overhead).

> Apple chose to use Multipath TCP instead...

OS X has a implementation of SCTP since OS X  10.3.8. Its open source. Apple 
has not added it to the kernel (besides promising it many many many times) 
because it would mean changing their NAT & Firewall as well and as there is no 
user demand, they where too lazy and rather wanted to spend time on nice shiny 
guy stuff. The kext is kernel dependent due to a missing API to link in a 
layer4 protocol so every new version needs awaiting new kernel sources to be 
published and recompiling (10.12 however worked out of the box with 10.11 
sources). I have like 20 radars open with Apple about it (*big sight*).

Linux has SCTP built in since a long time. Solaris, has it. HP/UX has it. 
Windows I actually don't know.

Part of the problem is:  If desktops don't have it, then developers don't tend 
to use it. If developers don't want to use it, then the OS vendors dont tend to 
implement it.  This however also applies to other layer 4 transport protocol. 
Thats why everyone uses plain old TCP and UDP.

Also 10$ crap ADSL routers who don't understand how to properly implement NAT 
don't help either. Hopefully NAT will be a relict of the past soon due to IPv6 
(*cough cough*).

> The article on Wikipedia does not list much more:
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stream_Control_Transmission_Protocol
> 
> Apparently some variant of SSH should support it, but no actual
> implementations mentioned there either.

Any application which uses TCP or UDP could be changed into using SCTP by a 
single line of code. (hint: IPPROTO_SCTP on socket()) However there are 
additional features which neither TCP or UDP have such as seamless adding 
removing IP's on a established session, Multipath support. stream multiplexing, 
concurrent establishment of a connection from both sides (think of tunnels for 
example) and others. From a developers point of view there's a lot in it, 
especially if you care about reliability. SCTP is proven, reliable, established 
and well supported in the Unix arena. Developers just have to know about that 
its there and it is useful for many things.

That's why I think the key is to let developers know that there's a cherry to 
be picked up. 
And I would be happy to present its benefits and features.

But if we only have java developers here who usually encode a boolean into a 
UTF16 string into XML over SOAP over HTTP over a 10G fiber link, then it would 
be a waste of time of course.


Andreas Fink


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Re: [swinog] SwiNOG #30 - 4th November 2016 - (Calling for Papers)

[Jeroen Massar]

On 2016-09-14 18:13, Andreas Fink wrote:
> I could do a presentation on the SCTP networking protocol which combines
> some features of TCP and UDP and offers some unique features neither TCP
> nor UDP have.

Is there any tool that actually uses SCTP ? :)

IPFIX is supposed to use it, but everybody still sends over UDP, rare
support for SCTP (except for purists like me who did implement it and
then also never really used it).

WebRTC is supposed to go partially over SCTP, never seen it actually used.

Apple chose to use Multipath TCP instead...

The article on Wikipedia does not list much more:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stream_Control_Transmission_Protocol

Apparently some variant of SSH should support it, but no actual
implementations mentioned there either.

Greets,
 Jeroen



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Re: [swinog] SwiNOG #30 - 4th November 2016 - (Calling for Papers)

[Andreas Fink]

I could do a presentation on the SCTP networking protocol which combines some 
features of TCP and UDP and offers some unique features neither TCP nor UDP 
have.


> Am 14.09.2016 um 18:02 schrieb Simon Ryf :
> 
> Dear SwiNOG supporter,
> 
> this is the official Call for Paper email. Please send your proposal to
> swinog-core (at) swinog.ch or directly to me.
> The 30th meeting of the Swiss Network Operators Group (SwiNOG) will be held
> in Berne on top of the Gurten on November 4th 2016.
> 
> 
> Important Dates for SwiNOG#30
> ---
> 17.08.2016 Announcement of Meeting
> 05.09.2016 Registration opens
> 14.09.2016 Call for Papers
> 16.10.2016 Call for Papers closing
> 23.10.2016 Final publication of agenda
> 27.10.2016 Registration closes
> 01.11.2016 Deadline for all slides
> 04.11.2016 Meeting day
> 
> 
> Topics for Presentations/Talks
> ---
> The number and length of presentations per session is not fixed, although
> due to time constraints we would prefer the length of the presentations to
> be between 5 to 45 minutes.
> Here is a non-exhaustive list of typical SwiNOG meeting topics:
> - Security - DDOS Mitigation - AntiSpam
> - IPv6
> - Open Source tools
> - International view of the internet (incidents, outages, measurements)
> - Routing
> - Server applications (DNS, Web, etc.)
> - Legal issues (BÜPF, etc.)
> - Telecommunication politics (Net Neutrality, Incumbent monopoly, etc.)
> 
> -> PLEASE feel free to talk to us about any kind of topic and
> collaboration!!!
>   You can always start a discussion on the list - I'm sure people join in.
> 
> Language of Slides and Talks
> ---
> The whole day will be held in English, therefore we kindly ask you to
> produce your presentation in English.
> 
> Submission Guidelines
> ---
> All submissions must have a strong technical bias and must not be solely
> promotional for your employer.
> Please remember that your presentations should be suitable for a target
> audience of technicians from varied backgrounds, working for companies whose
> sizes may vary considerably.
> To submit a proposal for a presentation, we request that you provide the
> following information to :
> 
> * the name of the presenter (and if applicable your affiliation)
> * a working email address
> * the name and number of the topic which will contain the presentation
> * the title of the presentation
> * its expected length (in minutes)
> * a short abstract of the presentation (so we know what it is about)
> 
> We also welcome suggestions for specific presentations which you feel would
> be valuable to the SwiNOG community.
> Please be aware that your presentation will be published on the SwiNOG
> website after the event. We can publish modified slides if requested - it
> might be that some confidential data will be presented by you which are not
> intended for publication on the internet.
> 
> Greetings,
> Simon Ryf
> SwiNOG Core Team
> 
> 
> General Information (SwiNOG Community)
> ---
> The Swiss Network Operators Group (SwiNOG) is an informal group of people
> who are concerned with engineering and operation of the Swiss Internet.
> SwiNOG exists to enhance the quality of Internet services available in
> Switzerland. It does this by fostering the free exchange of technical ideas
> and information between different companies and organisations.
> SwiNOG is a community for professionals who are operating, designing or
> researching the Internet. It provides a technical forum where those working
> on, with and for the Internet can come together to solve problems with every
> aspect of their (net)work.
> The meeting is designed to provide an opportunity for the exchange of
> information among network operators, engineers, researchers and other
> professionals close to the network community.
> 
> More information about SwiNOG can be found at http://www.swinog.ch/,
> Facebook, Xing, 
> Information about the meeting will be published at
> http://www.swinog.ch/meetings/swinog30/ 
> 
> General Information (SwiNOG Organisation)
> ---
> The SwiNOG Organisation Association is a non-profit association under
> article 60 and further of the swiss civil law. It manages the SwiNOG
> community ressources (domain, web, mailing-lists, etc..) and organises
> SwiNOG meetings.
> 
> Contact:
> SwiNOG Organisation
> 8000 Zurich
> Switzerland
> 
> 
> 
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E-Mail: 

[swinog] SwiNOG #30 - 4th November 2016 - (Calling for Papers)

[Simon Ryf]

Dear SwiNOG supporter,

this is the official Call for Paper email. Please send your proposal to
swinog-core (at) swinog.ch or directly to me.
The 30th meeting of the Swiss Network Operators Group (SwiNOG) will be held
in Berne on top of the Gurten on November 4th 2016.


Important Dates for SwiNOG#30
---
17.08.2016 Announcement of Meeting
05.09.2016 Registration opens
14.09.2016 Call for Papers
16.10.2016 Call for Papers closing
23.10.2016 Final publication of agenda
27.10.2016 Registration closes
01.11.2016 Deadline for all slides
04.11.2016 Meeting day


Topics for Presentations/Talks
---
The number and length of presentations per session is not fixed, although
due to time constraints we would prefer the length of the presentations to
be between 5 to 45 minutes.
Here is a non-exhaustive list of typical SwiNOG meeting topics:
 - Security - DDOS Mitigation - AntiSpam
 - IPv6
 - Open Source tools
 - International view of the internet (incidents, outages, measurements)
 - Routing
 - Server applications (DNS, Web, etc.)
 - Legal issues (BÜPF, etc.)
 - Telecommunication politics (Net Neutrality, Incumbent monopoly, etc.)

-> PLEASE feel free to talk to us about any kind of topic and
collaboration!!!
   You can always start a discussion on the list - I'm sure people join in.

Language of Slides and Talks
---
The whole day will be held in English, therefore we kindly ask you to
produce your presentation in English.

Submission Guidelines
---
All submissions must have a strong technical bias and must not be solely
promotional for your employer.
Please remember that your presentations should be suitable for a target
audience of technicians from varied backgrounds, working for companies whose
sizes may vary considerably.
To submit a proposal for a presentation, we request that you provide the
following information to :

* the name of the presenter (and if applicable your affiliation)
* a working email address
* the name and number of the topic which will contain the presentation
* the title of the presentation
* its expected length (in minutes)
* a short abstract of the presentation (so we know what it is about)

We also welcome suggestions for specific presentations which you feel would
be valuable to the SwiNOG community.
Please be aware that your presentation will be published on the SwiNOG
website after the event. We can publish modified slides if requested - it
might be that some confidential data will be presented by you which are not
intended for publication on the internet.

Greetings,
Simon Ryf
SwiNOG Core Team


General Information (SwiNOG Community)
---
The Swiss Network Operators Group (SwiNOG) is an informal group of people
who are concerned with engineering and operation of the Swiss Internet.
SwiNOG exists to enhance the quality of Internet services available in
Switzerland. It does this by fostering the free exchange of technical ideas
and information between different companies and organisations.
SwiNOG is a community for professionals who are operating, designing or
researching the Internet. It provides a technical forum where those working
on, with and for the Internet can come together to solve problems with every
aspect of their (net)work.
The meeting is designed to provide an opportunity for the exchange of
information among network operators, engineers, researchers and other
professionals close to the network community.

More information about SwiNOG can be found at http://www.swinog.ch/,
Facebook, Xing, 
Information about the meeting will be published at
http://www.swinog.ch/meetings/swinog30/ 

General Information (SwiNOG Organisation)
---
The SwiNOG Organisation Association is a non-profit association under
article 60 and further of the swiss civil law. It manages the SwiNOG
community ressources (domain, web, mailing-lists, etc..) and organises
SwiNOG meetings.

Contact:
SwiNOG Organisation
8000 Zurich
Switzerland



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[swinog] SwiNOG-BE158 - Beer Event 158 @ Don Weber Zurich, Monday, 2016-08-29

[Emanuel Kleindienst]

Dear SwiNOGers,

Let's have some Beer & Food at Don Weber!

***
And an IMPORTANT announcement:
JOINED Beering SwiNOG & SwissIX on Monday, 26.9.2016!!!
Details will come up beginning of September. SAVE THE DATE!!!
***

Upcoming events for rest of 2016:
> SwiNOG-BE159: Mo, 26.9.16 - joined SwiNOG & SwissIX beering
> SwiNOG-BE160: Mo, 24.10.16
> SwiNOG-BE161: Mo, 28.11.16
> SwiNOG-BE162: Mo, 12.12.16 (Christmas dinner)

Looking forward seeing you!

Emanuel, Mobile +41 79 382 73 77, Email eman...@vshn.ch

Details for the next event:
---
Event:  SwiNOG-BE158 - Beer Event 158

When?   Monday, 29th August 2016 18:30

Where?  Don Weber
Heinrichstrasse 213, 8005 Zürich
http://www.donweber.ch/
(GoogleMaps Link: http://goo.gl/maps/PqOPb)

Places available? 8

!! Please sign up if you're really coming - because the seats are limited! !!


---

Registration:

Start:  Friday, 26th August 2016  - 12:00
Stop:   Monday, 29th August 2016  - 17:00

Reg-URL: http://swinog.be/

---

Since we have to make reservations, I need to know who's coming and who's not.
If you can't attend and you're registered please inform me ASAP (+41 79 382 73 
77).

Cheers,

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[swinog] SwiNOG-30 - SAVE THE DATE: 4.11.2016

[Steven Glogger]

Dear SwiNOG supporter,We have great news, since our talks for the location and the sponsors are progressing.SAVE THE DATE: 4.11.2016BEGIN:VCALENDAR
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The 30th meeting of the Swiss Network Operators Group (SwiNOG) will be heldin Berne on top of the Gurten on November 4th 2016.Important Dates for SwiNOG#28---17.08.2016 Announcement of Meeting24.08.2016 Call for Papers 	(you may submit already if you wish to do so)05.09.2016 Registration opens16.10.2016 Call for Papers closing23.10.2016 Final publication of agenda27.10.2016 Registration closes01.11.2016 Deadline for all slides04.11.2016 Meeting dayTopics for Presentations/Talks---The number and length of presentations per session is not fixed, althoughdue to time constraints we would prefer the length of the presentations tobe between 5 to 45 minutes.Here is a non-exhaustive list of typical SwiNOG meeting topics:- Security - DDOS Mitigation - AntiSpam- IPv6- Open Source tools- International view of the internet (incidents, outages, measurements)- Routing- Server applications (DNS, Web, etc.)- Legal issues (BÜPF, etc.)- Telecommunication politics (Net Neutrality, Incumbent monopoly, etc.)-> PLEASE feel free to talk to us about any kind of topic andcollaboration!!!  You can always start a discussion on the list - I'm sure people join in.Language of Slides and Talks---The whole day will be held in English, therefore we kindly ask you toproduce your presentation in English.Submission Guidelines---All submissions must have a strong technical bias and must not be solelypromotional for your employer.Please remember that your presentations should be suitable for a targetaudience of technicians from varied backgrounds, working for companies whosesizes may vary considerably.To submit a proposal for a presentation, we request that you provide thefollowing information to swinog.ch>:* the name of the presenter (and if applicable your affiliation)* a working email address* the name and number of the topic which will contain the presentation* the title of the presentation* its expected length (in minutes)* a short abstract of the presentation (so we know what it is about)We also welcome suggestions for specific presentations which you feel wouldbe valuable to the SwiNOG community.Please be aware that your presentation will be published on the SwiNOGwebsite after the event. We can publish modified slides if requested - itmight be that some confidential data will be presented by you which are notintended for publication on the internet.Greetings,StevenSwiNOG Core TeamGeneral Information (SwiNOG Community)---The Swiss Network Operators Group (SwiNOG) is an informal group of peoplewho are concerned with engineering and operation of the Swiss Internet.SwiNOG exists to enhance the quality of Internet services available inSwitzerland. It does this by fostering the free exchange of technical ideasand information between different companies and organisations.SwiNOG is a community for professionals who are operating, designing orresearching the Internet. It provides a technical forum where those workingon, with and for the Internet can come together to solve problems with everyaspect of their (net)work.The meeting is designed to provide an opportunity for the exchange ofinformation among network operators, engineers, researchers and otherprofessionals close to the network community.More information about SwiNOG can be found at http://www.swinog.ch/,Facebook, Xing, Information about the meeting will be published athttp://www.swinog.ch/meetings/swinog29/ General Information (SwiNOG Organisation)---The SwiNOG Organisation Association is a non-profit association underarticle 60 and further of the swiss civil law. It manages the SwiNOGcommunity ressources (domain, web, mailing-lists, etc..) and organisesSwiNOG meetings.Contact:SwiNOG Organisation8000 ZurichSwitzerland
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Re: [swinog] SwiNOG-BE155 - Beer Event 157 @ Bauschaenzli Biergarten / ZH, Monday, 2016-07-25

[Emanuel Kleindienst]

New location:
http://bit.ly/29ZtGXj

St. Gallerhof
Konradstrasse 2
8005 Zürich
www.st-gallerhof.ch
Phone +41 44 271 52 60

Reservations from 18:30 for Emanuel / SwiNOG.


-Original Message-
From: Emanuel Kleindienst [mailto:emanuel.kleindie...@vshn.ch] 
Sent: Montag, 25. Juli 2016 16:18
To: swinog@lists.swinog.ch
Cc: b...@flachmueller.ch
Subject: RE: SwiNOG-BE155 - Beer Event 157 @ Bauschaenzli Biergarten / ZH, 
Monday, 2016-07-25
Importance: High

Hi all,

Location has just been cancelled due to weather conditions... Quite short 
notice, don't like that...
I'm currently working on alternative and will keep you posted.

Sorry,

Emanuel


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Talk to me! https://doodle.com/VSHNemanuel


-Original Message-
From: Emanuel Kleindienst [mailto:emanuel.kleindie...@vshn.ch] 
Sent: Freitag, 22. Juli 2016 14:35
To: swinog@lists.swinog.ch
Cc: swi...@flachmueller.ch
Subject: SwiNOG-BE155 - Beer Event 157 @ Bauschaenzli Biergarten / ZH, Monday, 
2016-07-25

Dear SwiNOGers,

Let's have some Beer & Food at Bauschaenzli Biergarten, a new location again!

Upcoming events for rest of 2016:
> SwiNOG-BE158: Mo, 29.8.16
> SwiNOG-BE159: Mo, 26.9.16
> SwiNOG-BE160: Mo, 24.10.16
> SwiNOG-BE161: Mo, 28.11.16
> SwiNOG-BE162: Mo, 12.12.16 (Christmas dinner)

Looking forward seeing you!

Emanuel, Mobile +41 79 382 73 77, Email eman...@vshn.ch

Details for the next event:
---
Event:  SwiNOG-BE157 - Beer Event 157

When?   Monday, 25th July 2016 18:30

Where?  Bauschaenzli Biergarten
Stadthausquai 2, 8001 Zurich
http://www.bauschaenzli.ch
(GoogleMaps Link: https://goo.gl/maps/JrjdnBymFXD2)

Places available? 10

!! Please sign up if you're really coming - because the seats are limited! !!


---

Registration:

Start:  Friday, 22nd July 2016  - 14:25
Stop:   Monday, 25th July 2016  - 17:00

Reg-URL: http://swinog.be/

---

Since we have to make reservations, I need to know who's coming and who not.
If you can't attend and you're registered please inform me ASAP (+41 79 382 73 
77).

greetings

Emanuel Kleindienst



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Re: [swinog] SwiNOG-BE155 - Beer Event 157 @ Bauschaenzli Biergarten / ZH, Monday, 2016-07-25

[Emanuel Kleindienst]

Hi all,

Location has just been cancelled due to weather conditions... Quite short 
notice, don't like that...
I'm currently working on alternative and will keep you posted.

Sorry,

Emanuel


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CCO

VSHN AG | Neugasse 10 | CH-8005 Zürich
T: +41 44 545 53 00 | M: +41 79 382 73 77 | https://vshn.ch
Talk to me! https://doodle.com/VSHNemanuel


-Original Message-
From: Emanuel Kleindienst [mailto:emanuel.kleindie...@vshn.ch] 
Sent: Freitag, 22. Juli 2016 14:35
To: swinog@lists.swinog.ch
Cc: swi...@flachmueller.ch
Subject: SwiNOG-BE155 - Beer Event 157 @ Bauschaenzli Biergarten / ZH, Monday, 
2016-07-25

Dear SwiNOGers,

Let's have some Beer & Food at Bauschaenzli Biergarten, a new location again!

Upcoming events for rest of 2016:
> SwiNOG-BE158: Mo, 29.8.16
> SwiNOG-BE159: Mo, 26.9.16
> SwiNOG-BE160: Mo, 24.10.16
> SwiNOG-BE161: Mo, 28.11.16
> SwiNOG-BE162: Mo, 12.12.16 (Christmas dinner)

Looking forward seeing you!

Emanuel, Mobile +41 79 382 73 77, Email eman...@vshn.ch

Details for the next event:
---
Event:  SwiNOG-BE157 - Beer Event 157

When?   Monday, 25th July 2016 18:30

Where?  Bauschaenzli Biergarten
Stadthausquai 2, 8001 Zurich
http://www.bauschaenzli.ch
(GoogleMaps Link: https://goo.gl/maps/JrjdnBymFXD2)

Places available? 10

!! Please sign up if you're really coming - because the seats are limited! !!


---

Registration:

Start:  Friday, 22nd July 2016  - 14:25
Stop:   Monday, 25th July 2016  - 17:00

Reg-URL: http://swinog.be/

---

Since we have to make reservations, I need to know who's coming and who not.
If you can't attend and you're registered please inform me ASAP (+41 79 382 73 
77).

greetings

Emanuel Kleindienst



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[swinog] SwiNOG-BE157 - Beer Event 157 @ Bauschaenzli Biergarten / ZH, Monday, 2016-07-25

[Emanuel Kleindienst]

Dear SwiNOGers,

Let's have some Beer & Food at Bauschaenzli Biergarten, a new location again!

Upcoming events for rest of 2016:
> SwiNOG-BE158: Mo, 29.8.16
> SwiNOG-BE159: Mo, 26.9.16
> SwiNOG-BE160: Mo, 24.10.16
> SwiNOG-BE161: Mo, 28.11.16
> SwiNOG-BE162: Mo, 12.12.16 (Christmas dinner)

Looking forward seeing you!

Emanuel, Mobile +41 79 382 73 77, Email eman...@vshn.ch

Details for the next event:
---
Event:  SwiNOG-BE157 - Beer Event 157

When?   Monday, 25th July 2016 18:30

Where?  Bauschaenzli Biergarten
Stadthausquai 2, 8001 Zurich
http://www.bauschaenzli.ch
(GoogleMaps Link: https://goo.gl/maps/JrjdnBymFXD2)

Places available? 10

!! Please sign up if you're really coming - because the seats are limited! !!


---

Registration:

Start:  Friday, 22nd July 2016  - 14:25
Stop:   Monday, 25th July 2016  - 17:00

Reg-URL: http://swinog.be/

---

Since we have to make reservations, I need to know who's coming and who not.
If you can't attend and you're registered please inform me ASAP (+41 79 382 73 
77).

greetings

Emanuel Kleindienst



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[swinog] SwiNOG-BE155 - Beer Event 157 @ Bauschaenzli Biergarten / ZH, Monday, 2016-07-25

[Emanuel Kleindienst]

Dear SwiNOGers,

Let's have some Beer & Food at Bauschaenzli Biergarten, a new location again!

Upcoming events for rest of 2016:
> SwiNOG-BE158: Mo, 29.8.16
> SwiNOG-BE159: Mo, 26.9.16
> SwiNOG-BE160: Mo, 24.10.16
> SwiNOG-BE161: Mo, 28.11.16
> SwiNOG-BE162: Mo, 12.12.16 (Christmas dinner)

Looking forward seeing you!

Emanuel, Mobile +41 79 382 73 77, Email eman...@vshn.ch

Details for the next event:
---
Event:  SwiNOG-BE157 - Beer Event 157

When?   Monday, 25th July 2016 18:30

Where?  Bauschaenzli Biergarten
Stadthausquai 2, 8001 Zurich
http://www.bauschaenzli.ch
(GoogleMaps Link: https://goo.gl/maps/JrjdnBymFXD2)

Places available? 10

!! Please sign up if you're really coming - because the seats are limited! !!


---

Registration:

Start:  Friday, 22nd July 2016  - 14:25
Stop:   Monday, 25th July 2016  - 17:00

Reg-URL: http://swinog.be/

---

Since we have to make reservations, I need to know who's coming and who not.
If you can't attend and you're registered please inform me ASAP (+41 79 382 73 
77).

greetings

Emanuel Kleindienst



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Re: [swinog] SwiNOG-BE155 - Beer Event 155 @ Papa Joe's / ZH, Monday, 2016-05-23

[Emanuel Kleindienst]

Only 3 attendees?
Anybody else wants to join?

Pls. register here: http://swinog.be/

Looking forward seeing you!

Cheers,

Emanuel


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Talk to me! https://doodle.com/VSHNemanuel


-Original Message-
From: Emanuel Kleindienst [mailto:emanuel.kleindie...@vshn.ch] 
Sent: Mittwoch, 18. Mai 2016 14:50
To: swinog@lists.swinog.ch
Cc: swi...@flachmueller.ch
Subject: SwiNOG-BE155 - Beer Event 155 @ Papa Joe's / ZH, Monday, 2016-05-23

SwiNOG-BE155 - Beer Event 155 @ Papa Joes / ZH

Dear SwiNOGers,

Let's have some Beer & Food at Papa Joe's, a new location again!

Upcoming events for rest of 2016:
> SwiNOG-BE156: Mo, 27.6.16
> SwiNOG-BE157: Mo, 25.7.16 (summer vacations...)
> SwiNOG-BE158: Mo, 29.8.16
> SwiNOG-BE159: Mo, 26.9.16
> SwiNOG-BE160: Mo, 24.10.16
> SwiNOG-BE161: Mo, 28.11.16
> SwiNOG-BE162: Mo, 12.12.16 (Christmas dinner)

Looking forward seeing you!

Emanuel, Mobile +41 79 382 73 77, Email eman...@vshn.ch

Details for this event:
---
Event:  SwiNOG-BE155 - Beer Event 155

When?   Monday, 23rd May 2016 18:30

Where?  Papa Joes
Schifflaende 18, 8001 Zurich,
http://www.papajoes.ch/en/Food/
(GoogleMaps Link: http://goo.gl/maps/EBkrpnBHnp62)

Places avaiable? 12

!! Please sign up if you're really coming - because the seats are limited! !!


---

Registration:

Start:  Wednesday, 18th May 2016  - 14:45
Stop:   Monday, 23rd May 2016  - 16:00

Reg-URL: http://swinog.be/

---

Since we have to make reservations, I need to know who's coming and who not.
If you can't attend and you're registered please inform me ASAP (+41 79 382 73 
77).

greetings

Emanuel Kleindienst



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[swinog] SwiNOG-BE155 - Beer Event 155 @ Papa Joe's / ZH, Monday, 2016-05-23

[Emanuel Kleindienst]

SwiNOG-BE155 - Beer Event 155 @ Papa Joes / ZH

Dear SwiNOGers,

Let's have some Beer & Food at Papa Joe's, a new location again!

Upcoming events for rest of 2016:
> SwiNOG-BE156: Mo, 27.6.16
> SwiNOG-BE157: Mo, 25.7.16 (summer vacations...)
> SwiNOG-BE158: Mo, 29.8.16
> SwiNOG-BE159: Mo, 26.9.16
> SwiNOG-BE160: Mo, 24.10.16
> SwiNOG-BE161: Mo, 28.11.16
> SwiNOG-BE162: Mo, 12.12.16 (Christmas dinner)

Looking forward seeing you!

Emanuel, Mobile +41 79 382 73 77, Email eman...@vshn.ch

Details for this event:
---
Event:  SwiNOG-BE155 - Beer Event 155

When?   Monday, 23rd May 2016 18:30

Where?  Papa Joes
Schifflaende 18, 8001 Zurich,
http://www.papajoes.ch/en/Food/
(GoogleMaps Link: http://goo.gl/maps/EBkrpnBHnp62)

Places avaiable? 12

!! Please sign up if you're really coming - because the seats are limited! !!


---

Registration:

Start:  Wednesday, 18th May 2016  - 14:45
Stop:   Monday, 23rd May 2016  - 16:00

Reg-URL: http://swinog.be/

---

Since we have to make reservations, I need to know who's coming and who not.
If you can't attend and you're registered please inform me ASAP (+41 79 382 73 
77).

greetings

Emanuel Kleindienst



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[swinog] SwiNOG-BE154 - Beer Event 154 @ Wirtschaft zum Vorbahnhof / ZH, Monday, 2016-04-25

[Emanuel Kleindienst]

Dear SwiNOGers,

Lets have some Beer & Food at Restaurant Vorbahnhof, a new location!

Details for the next event:
---
Event:  SwiNOG-BE154 - Beer Event 154

When?   Monday, 25th April 2016 18:30

Where?  Wirtschaft zum Vorbahnhof
   Zollstrasse 2, 8005 Zurich
   http://www.vorbahnhof.ch/speisen-und-getraenke/
(GoogleMaps Link: http://https://goo.gl/maps/V98Q5QbSciR2)

Places available? 10

!! Please sign up if you're really coming - because the seats are limited! !!

---
Registration:

Start:  Tuesday, 19th April 2016  - 13:25
Stop:   Monday, 25th April 2016  - 16:00

Reg-URL: http://swinog.be/
---

Since we have to make reservations, I need to know who's coming and who not.
If you can't attend and you're registered please inform me ASAP (+41 79 382 73 
77).

Upcoming events for rest of 2016:
> SwiNOG-BE155: Mo, 23.5.16
> SwiNOG-BE156: Mo, 27.6.16
> SwiNOG-BE157: Mo, 25.7.16 (summer vacations...)
> SwiNOG-BE158: Mo, 29.8.16
> SwiNOG-BE159: Mo, 26.9.16
> SwiNOG-BE160: Mo, 24.10.16
> SwiNOG-BE161: Mo, 28.11.16
> SwiNOG-BE162: Mo, 12.12.16 (Christmas dinner)

Looking forward seeing you!

Cheers,

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[swinog] SwiNOG-BE153 - Beer Event 153 @ Don Weber / ZH, Tuesday, 2016-03-29

[Emanuel Kleindienst]

Dear SwiNOGers,

Let's have some Beer & Food at DON WEBER!

Upcoming events for rest of 2016:
> SwiNOG-BE154: Mo, 25.4.16
> SwiNOG-BE155: Mo, 23.5.16
> SwiNOG-BE156: Mo, 27.6.16
> SwiNOG-BE157: Mo, 25.7.16 (summer vacations...)
> SwiNOG-BE158: Mo, 29.8.16
> SwiNOG-BE159: Mo, 26.9.16
> SwiNOG-BE160: Mo, 24.10.16
> SwiNOG-BE161: Mo, 28.11.16
> SwiNOG-BE162: Mo, 12.12.16 (Christmas dinner)

Looking forward seeing you!

Emanuel, Mobile +41 79 382 73 77, Email eman...@vshn.ch

Details for the next event:
---
Event:  SwiNOG-BE153 - Beer Event 153

When?   Tuesday, 29th March 2016 18:30

Where?  Don Weber
Heinrichstrasse 213, 8005 Zürich
http://www.donweber.ch/
(GoogleMaps Link: http://goo.gl/maps/PqOPb)

Places avaiable? 16

!! Please sign up if you're really coming - because the seats are limited! !!


---

Registration:

Start:  Friday, 4th March 2016  - 18:35
Stop:   Tuesday, 29th March 2016  - 16:00

Reg-URL: http://swinog.be/

---

Since we have to make reservations, I need to know who's coming and who's not.
If you can't attend and you're registered please inform me ASAP (+41 79 382 73 
77).

Cheers,

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[swinog] SwiNOG-BE151 - Beer Event 151 @ Don Weber / ZH

[Emanuel Kleindienst]

Dear SwiNOGers,

This is my first attempt to organize our Zurich Beer Event after taking
over from Steven... So pls. accept that everything will go wrong - and
already does as I'm way too late... :-D

Lets have some Beer & Food at DON WEBER!

Here you find the dates for 2016 as well. I'll send out ICS file later
today.

> SwiNOG-BE151: Mo, 25.1.16
> SwiNOG-BE152: Mo, 22.2.16
> SwiNOG-BE153: Mo, 28.3.16
> SwiNOG-BE154: Mo, 25.4.16
> SwiNOG-BE155: Mo, 23.5.16
> SwiNOG-BE156: Mo, 27.6.16
> SwiNOG-BE157: Mo, 25.7.16 (vacation time...)
> SwiNOG-BE158: Mo, 29.8.16
> SwiNOG-BE159: Mo, 26.9.16
> SwiNOG-BE160: Mo, 24.10.16
> SwiNOG-BE161: Mo, 28.11.16
> SwiNOG-BE162: Mo, 12.12.16 (Weihnachtstreff)

Looking forward seeing you!

Emanuel, Mobile +41 79 382 73 77, Email eman...@vshn.ch


Details for the next event:
---
Event:  SwiNOG-BE151 - Beer Event 151

When?   Monday, 25th January 2016 18:30

Where?  Don Weber
Heinrichstrasse 213, 8005 Zürich
http://www.donweber.ch/
(GoogleMaps Link: http://goo.gl/maps/PqOPb)

!! Please sign up if you're really coming - because the seats are
limited! !!

---

Registration:

Start:  Friday, 22nd January 2016  - 12:00
Stop:   Monday, 25th January 2016  - 17:00

Reg-URL: http://swinog.be/

---

Since we have to make reservations, I need to know who's coming and who not.
If you can't attend and you're registered please inform me ASAP (+41 79
382 73 77).

Cheers,

Emanuel

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VSHN AG | Neugasse 10 | CH-8005 Zürich
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[swinog] SwiNOG-BE150 - (Fondue-)Beer Event 150 @ Walliser Keller / ZH

[Steven Glogger]

Dear SwiNOGers,

This is my last, regulary organized Beer Event :-/
But good news: Emanuel & Aarno will take over the organization of the 2016+ 
events ,-)
Thank you!

For my "last" event I've organized 20 places for Fondue/racelette.
The menu will be fixed:
Entry: Assiette Valaisanne
Main Course: Fondue or Racelette
Dessert: Sorbet of apricot

Please indicate what you prefer (Fondue/Racelette).

Be aware: 20 seats are fix reserved. First come first served.

Details for the next event:
---
Event:  SwiNOG-BE150 - Beer Event 150

When?   Monday, 14th December 2015 18:30

Where?  Walliser Keller
Zähringerstrasse 24, 8001 Zürich
http://www.walliser-keller.ch/
(GoogleMaps Link: http://goo.gl/maps/kx3ad)

Places avaiable? 20!

!! Please sign up if you're really coming - because the seats are limited! !!


---

Registration:

Start:  Wednesday, 11th November 2015  - 12:00
Stop:   Wednesday, 9th December 2015  - 12:00

Reg-URL: http://swinog.be/

---

Since we have to make reservations, I need to know who's coming and who not.
If you can't attend and you're registered please inform me ASAP (+41 79 277 92 
35).

greetings
-steven

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[swinog] SwiNOG #29 is day after tomorrow

[Simon Ryf]

Dear Participants and Speakers

 

Please find general information about the SwiNOG #29 meeting below.

 

Date: 05.11.2015 - Registration 08h15 - 09h15

Location: Gurtenpark, Bern. NEW Location: it's now closer to the station.
Follow the signs.

 

>From Bern main station you may take:

- S-Bahn S3 Belp and exit at Wabern station

- Tram 9 (Wabern) and exit at Gurtenbahn stop

(http://www.bernmobil.ch/file/pdf_fahrplaene/141214/L9/ah_01009L_j15_B_1
_3.pdf?_=1446578381)

 

==>  Then take the Gurtenbahn to the Gurtenpark. You DO NOT have to pay a
fee, just tell you attend to the SwiNOG event. Don't throw away the ticket -
you'll need it to get down.

 

 

Map (Ground Station of the cable rail): https://goo.gl/maps/5uSKtgbianM2 

 

Suggested trains from

Geneva:   06h14

Zurich:  07h02

 

 

WIRELESS ACCESS

During the meeting you have access to free WLAN!

 

- SSID: MOBILE

- Credentials will be printed on your badge

- YOU are responsible for the security of your data, this WLAN is not
encrypted!

 

 

Many thanks to our sponsors!

 

Juniper, Brocade, Cisco

 

See you at SwiNOG #29!

 

Simon Ryf

SwiNOG Organisation

 


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[swinog] SwiNOG-BE149 - Beer Event 149 @ Outback Lodge / ZH

[Steven Glogger]

Dear SwiNOGers,

So, 2nd last Beer event in Zurich ,-)
Remember, that I will not organize any beer events anymore for 2016 - so any 
volunteers rise your hands ,-)
Dezember will be the last one (fondue!)

Details for the next event:
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Event:  SwiNOG-BE149 - Beer Event 149

When?   Monday, 2nd November 2015 18:30

Where?  Outback Lodge
Stadelhoferstrasse 18, 8001 Zürich

http://www.outback-lodge.ch/outback-lodge-z%C3%BCrich.html
(GoogleMaps Link: http://goo.gl/maps/fGTpM)



!! Please sign up if you're really coming - because the seats are limited! !!


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Registration:

Start:  Wednesday, 28th October 2015  - 13:25
Stop:   Monday, 2nd November 2015  - 10:00

Reg-URL: http://swinog.be/

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Since we have to make reservations, I need to know who's coming and who not.
If you can't attend and you're registered please inform me ASAP (+41 79 277 92 
35).

greetings

-steven

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[swinog] SwiNOG-BE147 - Beer Event 147 @ Don Weber / ZH

[Steven Glogger]

Dear SwiNOGers,

Lets have some Beer & Food ,-)
Please notice that I will end beer events this year. 
Event #150 will be my last one... if someone wants to take over -> contact me 
(or get some beer with me) ,-)


Details for the next event:
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Event:  SwiNOG-BE147 - Beer Event 147

When?   Monday, 28th September 2015 18:30

Where?  Don Weber
Heinrichstrasse 213, 8005 Zürich
http://www.donweber.ch/
(GoogleMaps Link: http://goo.gl/maps/PqOPb)



!! Please sign up if you're really coming - because the seats are limited! !!


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Registration:

Start:  Thursday, 24th September 2015  - 00:30
Stop:   Monday, 28th September 2015  - 10:30

Reg-URL: http://swinog.be/

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Since we have to make reservations, I need to know who's coming and who not.
If you can't attend and you're registered please inform me ASAP (+41 79 277 92 
35).

greetings

-steven

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[swinog] SwiNOG #29 (Nov 5th) - Reg Open - CFP still open

[Simon Ryf]

Dear SwiNOG community member,

Please take a minute for my two requests :)

1. CFP - we're still looking for presentations to make your day at SwiNOG as
interesting and informative as possible.
If you have something or know someone to present (5 to 45minutes) - a new
technology, a tool, your thesis or a solution to a problem,  - please
let me know.

2. Registration is open, please go to swinog.ch and register for the event
on the 5th of November and meet up.

3. (o a third) - why don't you send this mail to engineers, technicians,
students, etc.  which might be interested in getting to know the SwiNOG
Community, let them know that we exist :)


Have a beautiful day
best regards
Simon Ryf
SwiNOG







CFP



Dear SwiNOG supporter,

SAVE THE DATE: 5.11.2015

The 29th meeting of the Swiss Network Operators Group (SwiNOG) will be held
in Berne on top of the Gurten on November 5th 2015.

(We had a back and forth concerning the initially published date, we’re
sorry for that – this is the final date now!)


Important Dates for SwiNOG#28
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29.07.2015 Announcement of Meeting
29.07.2015 Call for Papers
03.08.2015 Registration opens
18.10.2015 Call for Papers closing
26.10.2015 Final publication of agenda
30.10.2015 Registration closes
01.10.2015 Deadline for all slides
05.11.2015 Meeting day

Topics for Presentations/Talks
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The number and length of presentations per session is not fixed, although
due to time constraints we would prefer the length of the presentations to
be between 5 to 45 minutes.

Here is a non-exhaustive list of typical SwiNOG meeting topics:

 - Security - DDOS Mitigation - AntiSpam
 - IPv6
 - Open Source tools
 - International view of the internet (incidents, outages, measurements)
 - Routing
 - Server applications (DNS, Web, etc.)
 - Legal issues (BÜPF, etc.)
 - Telecommunication politics (Net Neutrality, Incumbent monopoly, etc.)

-> PLEASE feel free to talk to us about any kind of topic and
collaboration!!!
   You can always start a discussion on the list - I'm sure people join in.


Language of Slides and Talks
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The whole day will be held in English, therefore we kindly ask you to
produce your presentation in English.


Submission Guidelines
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All submissions must have a strong technical bias and must not be solely
promotional for your employer.

Please remember that your presentations should be suitable for a target
audience of technicians from varied backgrounds, working for companies whose
sizes may vary considerably.

To submit a proposal for a presentation, we request that you provide the
following information to :

* the name of the presenter (and if applicable your affiliation)
* a working email address
* the name and number of the topic which will contain the presentation
* the title of the presentation
* its expected length (in minutes)
* a short abstract of the presentation (so we know what it is about)

We also welcome suggestions for specific presentations which you feel would
be valuable to the SwiNOG community.

Please be aware that your presentation will be published on the SwiNOG
website after the event. We can publish modified slides if requested - it
might be that some confidential data will be presented by you which are not
intended for publication on the internet.


Greetings,
Simon Ryf
SwiNOG Core Team


General Information (SwiNOG Community)
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The Swiss Network Operators Group (SwiNOG) is an informal group of people
who are concerned with engineering and operation of the Swiss Internet.

SwiNOG exists to enhance the quality of Internet services available in
Switzerland. It does this by fostering the free exchange of technical ideas
and information between different companies and organisations.

SwiNOG is a community for professionals who are operating, designing or
researching the Internet. It provides a technical forum where those working
on, with and for the Internet can come together to solve problems with every
aspect of their (net)work.

The meeting is designed to provide an opportunity for the exchange of
information among network operators, engineers, researchers and other
professionals close to the network community.

More information about SwiNOG can be found at http://www.swinog.ch/,
Facebook, Xing, 

Information about the meeting will be published at
http://www.swinog.ch/meetings/swinog29/ 


General Information (SwiNOG Organisation)
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The SwiNOG Organisation Association is a non-profit association under
article 60 and further of the swiss civil law. It manages the SwiNOG
community ressources (domain, web, mailing-lists, etc..) and organises
SwiNOG meetings.