Re: t-and-f: NCAA XC Splits and Leader Info

2000-11-26 Thread JimRTimes
In a message dated 11/23/00 12:11:48 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: if mile splits were done away with overnight and km splits introduced I have every confidence that the VAST majority of American fans would have no problem in adapting to them. I have been to several road races where this

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2000-11-26 Thread DLTFNedit
In a message dated Sun, 26 Nov 2000 9:51:11 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In a message dated 11/23/00 12:11:48 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: if mile splits were done away with overnight and km splits introduced I have every confidence that the VAST majority of

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2000-11-24 Thread David Dallman
Funny you should say that Malmo, I do relate to that, in fact this IS my pace for a 1 hour run! Of course, I'm talking about km pace. If you mean miles, you're in way, way better shape than I am. David Dallman On Thu, 23 Nov 2000, malmo

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2000-11-24 Thread Michael Casey
I bet Keith Kelly can. :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of malmo Sent: 23 November 2000 20:07 To: Wayne T. Armbrust; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: t-and-f: NCAA XC Splits and Leader Info Go out on a one hour run at 3:35 pace. Anyone

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2000-11-24 Thread malmo
Expect nothing less from man who study Kung Fu at CERN Monastery. Master Po Funny you should say that Malmo, I do relate to that, in fact this IS my pace for a 1 hour run! Of course, I'm talking about km pace. If you mean miles, you're in way, way better shape than I am.

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2000-11-23 Thread David Dallman
Control Washington Group SRS Technologies (703) 351-7266 Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 12:51:16 -0600 From: "Wayne T. Armbrust" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: t-and-f: NCAA XC Splits and Leader Info David Dallman wrote: I must say there's something I don't understand abo

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2000-11-23 Thread Michael Casey
Bob, Would a more sensible option be to give 2 k splits?? Mike -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Bettwy, Bob Sent: 22 November 2000 14:59 To: Track List (E-mail) Subject: Re: t-and-f: NCAA XC Splits and Leader Info Allow me to explain

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2000-11-23 Thread WMurphy25
In a message dated 11/23/0 5:18:25 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bob, Would a more sensible option be to give 2 k splits?? Mike It wouldn't matter if you gave 1k or 2k splits...the vast majority of people in attendance at an American x-country race wouldn't be able to relate to the

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2000-11-23 Thread Wayne T. Armbrust
Michael Casey wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] said "who cares what the final time is in most x-country races" If thats the case who cares what the split times are? Also I think you underestimate the ability of the people in attendance at an American cross country race to relate to km

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2000-11-23 Thread Michael Casey
PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 23 November 2000 15:41 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: t-and-f: NCAA XC Splits and Leader Info In a message dated 11/23/00 9:32:41 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If thats the case who cares what the split times are? Also I think

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2000-11-23 Thread Adam G Beaver
It seems to me that cross-country split times have two important functions: (1) during the race, they help runners to gauge their effort and strategize, and (2) after the race, they enable fans/statisticians/coaches to reconstruct the progress of a race, to see who had the most effective pacing

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2000-11-23 Thread Wayne T. Armbrust
You die-hard mile split people out there (you know who you are) must really have got bent out of shape when tracks went to 400 m and you couldn't get mile splits in track races anymore. Of course, some of you still take 1600 m splits. (1600 doesn't divide into integer kilometer distances very

RE: t-and-f: NCAA XC Splits and Leader Info

2000-11-23 Thread Michael Casey
lto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Adam G Beaver Sent: 23 November 2000 16:06 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: t-and-f: NCAA XC Splits and Leader Info It seems to me that cross-country split times have two important functions: (1) during the race, they help runners to gauge their effort and strategi

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2000-11-23 Thread malmo
--Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Michael Casey Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2000 9:04 AM To: malmo Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: t-and-f: NCAA XC Splits and Leader Info Hi Malmo, I beg to disagree with your "emphatic" statem

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2000-11-23 Thread malmo
al Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 23 November 2000 15:41 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: t-and-f: NCAA XC Splits and Leader Info In a message dated 11/23/00 9:32:41 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If thats the case who cares what

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2000-11-23 Thread Michael Casey
. Mike -Original Message- From: malmo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 23 November 2000 17:12 To: Michael Casey Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: t-and-f: NCAA XC Splits and Leader Info Everyone has the right to tell someone what they should or shouldn't do! They call them opinions

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2000-11-23 Thread Michael Casey
Thank you Justin. Mike -Original Message- From: Justin Clouder [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 23 November 2000 17:46 To: Michael Casey; 'malmo' Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: t-and-f: NCAA XC Splits and Leader Info If I may interject in a private debate... ...one

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2000-11-23 Thread Justin Clouder
Casey Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: t-and-f: NCAA XC Splits and Leader Info Everyone has the right to tell someone what they should or shouldn't do! They call them opinions. As for "... I know more American fans who relate to km splits than those who don't." Don't

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2000-11-23 Thread Michael Casey
ns what they should or shouldn't do?? Regards Mike -Original Message- From: malmo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 23 November 2000 16:48 To: Michael Casey; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: t-and-f: NCAA XC Splits and Leader Info Speaking as an American, Mike, and

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2000-11-23 Thread Wayne T. Armbrust
Malmo wrote: Speaking as an American, Mike, and as one who is fluent in metric as well as imperial, I will say EMPHATICALLY: American fans do not, need not, and should not relate to kilometer splits. Mile splits work just fine. You're over-estimating the intelligence of Americans.

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2000-11-23 Thread mmrohl
Netters Wayne writes: Of course, some of you still take 1600 m splits. (1600 doesn't divide into integer kilometer distances very well either). Being one of those who uses the 1600 split in training, I will try to explain the irrational.:) I came into track just after the transition to the

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2000-11-23 Thread malmo
Go out on a one hour run at 3:35 pace. Anyone relate to that? I rest my case. malmo Come on, [malmo]. The idea that Americans can't relate to metric splits is absurd. Who doesn't relate to the total time in a metric race? If you know that 30:00 is a good time for a 10k cross country

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2000-11-23 Thread RunLikeMad
very well put malmo!! very well put.

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2000-11-23 Thread whitmank
Here is the basic premise it all boils down to in Track Field gentlemen: THE MILE IS STILL KING. ps All you folks that get upset when Malmo chides you should go down to the store and purchase a Sense of Humor 2000 TM. Keith Whitman Head Cross Country Coach Assistant Track Field Coach

Re: t-and-f: NCAA XC Splits and Leader Info

2000-11-22 Thread Bettwy, Bob
would be a breeze!!! I hope this helps, Bob Bettwy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Director - Program Control Washington Group SRS Technologies (703) 351-7266 Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 12:51:16 -0600 From: "Wayne T. Armbrust" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: t-and-f: NCAA XC Splits and Leader Info Dav

Re: t-and-f: NCAA XC Splits and Leader Info

2000-11-21 Thread Wayne T. Armbrust
David Dallman wrote: I must say there's something I don't understand about you all in the USA. Having spent the first 28 years of my life in England, I don't have any problem at all with miles. For cross-country races, where there is less need to compare times across courses because the

t-and-f: NCAA XC Splits and Leader Info

2000-11-20 Thread Bettwy, Bob
For those who care...information gathered by the announcing crew... Woman's Race - 6,000 Meters 1K - Time 3:27 Leaders: Sabrina Monro (Montana) Glady's Keitany (TCU) Laura Harmon (Oregon) Christina Bowen (UCLA) Leslie Patterson (Wisconsin) Lilli Kleinmann (Arkansas) Tracy Robertson (Arkansas)

Re: t-and-f: NCAA XC Splits and Leader Info

2000-11-20 Thread David Dallman
I must say there's something I don't understand about you all in the USA. Having spent the first 28 years of my life in England, I don't have any problem at all with miles. For cross-country races, where there is less need to compare times across courses because the courses vary a lot, I don't