Another good movie was Four Minute Mile. See
http://us.imdb.com/Title?0095171 for more information. There was even a
querky Cerutty character in this production.
Much better was Roger Bannister's own book, The Four Minute Mile. Go to
amazon.com for a description.
bob
Post, Marty wrote:
Answer: All finished in the top six places at the nationals 5000 meters
last
June and all declined to represent the US at the World Cup. Seventh
finisher, Collette Liss will be running for American team.
Has the US ever had to go down so many places to get a World Cup
Post, Marty wrote:
Radcliffe has put up some big numbers going up and down a range of
distances
this year. One loss, but in a tremendous time, and, of course, there's
still
the Chicago Marathon to come.
Joe Henderson has a good article on Paula Radcliffe today at
ghill wrote:
Still my choice for World's Fastest Human ever.
The article in the new Sports Illustrated was good, but somebody needs a
real in-depth article. Where is Kenny Moore when we need him?!
bob
Post, Marty wrote:
On Feb 17 at the World's Best 10-K in San Juan on a stinking hot day with
high humidity - is there any other kind in Puerto Rico? - Radcliffe ran
30:43 in what was then the second best women's road 10-K in history.
I figured that she had probably run another road
I say once again...Paula Radcliffe, Athlete of the Year!
bob
ghill wrote:
As always, I have trouble getting excited over another undefeated El G
season based on a series of set up races. Let's talk about '96 and '00,
where he didn't get a perfect place on the grid and didn't have
preordained
rabbits going out at a pace he requested. Oh yeah, he lost
Lee Nichols wrote:
As most of you probably already know, it appears the only NYC
Marathon TV coverage will be a pared-down, one-hour highlights show
after the event, that afternoon on NBC. Oh well, after NO coverage of
Chicago, I suppose I should be grateful for that much. I miss
watching the
Gmcmmail wrote:
Hell,
many of us would probably fork over $$$ to watch these marathons on pay
per view. The US networks blew it big time over Chicago, even though
everyone knew
ahead of the time that at least one world record was a possibility.
Nope, gotta disagree with you there!
Ben Hall wrote:
Nothing against Browne, as I am very glad to see a good marathon
performance
out of him BUT... can USATF retroactively award David Krummenacker with an
Athlete of the Week honor?
He tore it up in Europe this summer, didn't he? Something about
Krummenacker being the
fastest
Gary Hill wrote:
in anticipation of a kick-ass Chicago on Sunday, we've posted some stats
you
might find interesting on the TFN site (www.trackandfieldnews.com)
Thanks for the interesting statistics.
Now, if only we had televised coverage in the US (outside of Chicago or
satellite)...
Runner's
Bob Hersh wrote:
The Tokyo '91 long jump. Perhaps the greatest field event competition
ever. And not just the WR, but the whole competition. Just amazing.
And it was telecast virtually in its entirety. Just riveting. What a
series by Lewis! I've still got it on tape along with a lot of
Bloomquist, Bret wrote:
How about worst races in track history?
Or even the 2000 Olympic Trials 200m, where both MJ and Maurice Green
pulled! \
Or the 1992 10,000m travesty with Khalid Skah and Richard Chelimo, where
lapped runner Hammou Boutayeb paced Skah over the last three laps.
bob
Lee Nichols
Yes, you were fortunate -- because here in America, this gets my
award for worst, or at least most annoying (watch out, I sense
another new thread starting), television coverage.
Ditto the men's 5K that year, which I think was shown in some
abbreviated form late at night after I
ghill wrote:
I can't imagine that the IAAF or IOC have ever looked at it as a substance
to be banned. Didn't the FDA even refuse even to sanction its production
as
a drug? (I remember Oregon athletes of the era complaining that decision
was based on bad science.)
Back in the 70's and early
Tom Derderian wrote:
TV is dead. Webcast is the future.
Most webcasts have mediocre picture quality although I have seen a few with
pretty good pictures, assuming that you have a high speed connection. The
poor quality ones are a chore to watch and the low quality really shows
through when the
ghill wrote:
JJK's score of 6304 would put her at No. 5 on the yearly list for 2002.
What
6304? That would be her score after SIX events in her WR performance.
Has anybody calculated what her best case heptathlon score would be,
taking her PRs for all events? I believe that you guys publish
Ed Parrot wrote:
If most 100-year-olds fall, they go to the hospital. They get operations.
They break hips. This guy gets wrapped up and he's going to run the 100
meters.
Say what you will about masters competition, the above observation makes
me
proud to be a track and field athlete
Yeah, I
Keith Whitman wrote:
or the Plummers? (yes I know, sisters)
How about Monica and Regina Joyce?
bob
Lee Nichols wrote:
(Interesting side note: Track athletes were featured on the cover of
SI no less than three times that year -- Pre was on the 6/15/70
issue. And in a non-Olympic year! When was the last time that
happened?)
I've been a SI subscriber since the mid-70's and it seemed that in
Ed Grant wrote:
My wife happens to belong to one of the consituent members of this
organization. Her group was taken over by radical feminism with
absolutely
no consultation of the hundreds of local groups spread around the country.
It just happened. And this is typical of the other
They should just call it American SportsMAN Of The Year. I would vote for
Paula myself in a perfect world. And heaven forbid that an American with
the name of Khalid should be selected.
It's a crying shame that SI has never seen fit to honor a Carl Lewis or
Marion Jones or Michael Johnson.
Don Franken wrote:
Dear Bob, Kenny Moore is a screenwriter (his writing partner is
Robert Towne) and a movie producer.
Well, Kenny's in good company. Recall that Towne directed Personal Best
and even included an infamous scene with Moore. Cringe if you may, but
those were the good old days to
Ed Grant wrote:
Tonight, at 9 p.m., on CBS, there is a movie called The Man Who
Saved Christmas, based on a real-life story.
The hero of the tale is A.C. Gilbert, who before he took up the
profession of toy-maker in the WW I era, was a natonal indoor AAU PV
champ,
also an
Alfred Gilbert (aka A. C. Gilbert) was the co-winner in the pole vault
(with another American, Edward Cook) in the Olympic Games of 1908 in London
(3.71m). As Ed Grant had implied, it is a bit difficult to imagine that
Jason Alexander's television character had once achieved such athletic
Martin J. Dixon wrote:
Shoes are staring to drop. Isn't Australia the land that was basically
originally settled by criminals shipped from the continent?
That was a cheap shot if I've ever heard one.
Merry Christmas to any Aussies on this list.
bob
Martin J. Dixon wrote:
Sorry to continue to stray off track here. The adversity was just icing.
He
deserved to win it anyway. He did do a little something extra after
winning it
twice, he won it a third time AND a fourth. Armstrong's thoughts on the
matter
are not relevant. He is not a normal
Dave Cameron wrote:
Anyway... I'm wondering how long Van Aaken lived. I understand he
is deceased now (he was born in 1910, so didn't make it to 100).
Given his adamant belief on people programmed to live to 100 - does
anyone know how close he got?
I did a little research and found that he
Mike Prizy wrote:
But why be dead right? If special clothing has to be worn with the intent
of being seen by drivers,
then maybe a route farther away from auto traffic needs to be found. I
think bright clothing gives
some runners a false sense of security.
Unfortunately such routes are getting
On a more sober note, my daughter grew up as a runner and regularly endured
attacks, such as the occasional beer bottle, firecracker or cherry bomb.
Just two years ago as an adult, she was attacked my a man while running in a
park in Los Angeles. Despite being an experienced runner, she was
Geoff Pietsch wrote:
Am I alone in hoping that a regular centerfold, like the one of Jorge
Torres in this month's issue (I get it late - our snails move really
slowly), will be a regular feature? I still have a bunch of full-sized
posters of folks like Brendan Foster and Shorter and Viren
ghill wrote:
hmmm... that would suggest only 2 possibilities:
1. you're single
2. you're married to Elvira, Mistress of the Dark.
Actually, I *did* have a couple of pics of Cassandra Petersen (Elvira) on
the walls, too! Not single, but the Widow Duncan has cut me some slack
regarding my
ghill wrote:
well, I wasn't kidding, but I also wasn't being mean or nasty in any way;
just my way of saying that this story has so many juicy twists and turns
I'd
expect to see it on the front page in the grocery store checkout line.
Actually, we all just *WISH* that in the USA track was so
I'm a big animal lover but have no use for pit bulls. You could've guessed
that they were the culprits without even reading about this unfortunate
incident. People breed these dogs for fighting or protection, often to
impress their friends. But this is first time that I can remember hearing
Martin J. Dixon wrote:
...just arrived. I am constantly battling our local post office and I am
curious as to whether or not anyone else in the world hasn't got theirs
yet or, even better, if someone in some extremely remote locale has.
I just received mine a few days ago here in Alabama, so
Randall Northam wrote:
All very true. But we don't have the death penalty, we don't have as
many fat people (percentage wise of course, because we don't have as
many people), we don't eat grits (we put that on the road when it
snows)
You can trash our leaders, but when you start talking about
Randall Northam wrote:
I went to the Atlanta Olympics so don't talk to me about southern
cooking! I didn't like grits but I did like the greens.
Nothing beats a good Southern meal. Of course if it's not mama who is
doing the cooking, you have to be careful about your choice of restaurants.
Many
There was a recent, excellent, documentary on Saddam Hussein called Uncle
Saddam. Anyone interested in the craziness over there should watch this,
as it has been making the rounds on cable television in the US. Son Uday,
the perpetrator of the athlete torture, was actually imprisoned by his own
Phil wrote:
Always seems to me you can understand Saddam better if you just think of
him as a Mafia Don, basing much of his chain of command on family and
personal loyalty rather than merit, and ready to use whatever power needed
to keep power.
Those are my exact feelings, too, although I can
Bill Roe wrote:
A professional tour stop (anyone else remember the old ITA besides me and
Garry Hill and Bob Hersh?) reported crowds using a dart board, which
obviously weren't connected to reality.
Some of the big stars of ITA were Jim Ryun and Ben Jipcho. (Keino
Lindgren too, I believe.)
Ed Grant wrote:
Runners have many dangers srrounding them when they go on the
road,
but nothing like this
Well, not necessarily dangerous but quite ghastly! I've often thought about
finding a body out in the woods on some of my trail runs. Those high school
guys must've had nightmares
Martin wrote:
There is a bunch of stuff on the letsrun home page. Here is an article
about a
race he had with Shorter.
http://www.pensacolanewsjournal.com/news/020203/Local/ST001.shtml
31:05 for 10k...not too shabby at all. This likely made him the fastest
astronaut in history (at least, in
You know, I'm a bit surprised that Mr. Lewis hasn't weighed in on all of
this (yet)...
bob
Keith Whitman wrote:
Give the fans what we really want-a monthly column by Malmo.
What we really want are some *women* in those new monthly fold-outs!
bob
Geoff Pietsch wrote:
Now? Webb needs to race. Stick his head in there and get callused
again.
My two cents (if I haven't already spent them): Webb should have run
cross country last fall. His 3:53 was set up, I believe, by the hard
training he did for cross country the previous fall.
G. Hill (the apostle Paul of T F?) wrote:
Note Matsumiya's 1:28:36 WR for road 30K this past weekend. In her
marathon WR, Radcliffe went through 30K in 1:21:34.
A most under appreciated athlete... I hope she's getting her fair share of
UK dollars, because the US doesn't acknowledge her
From now on, please don't put results in the headers until after the
broadcast to the USA. Some of us would like to experience a little bit of
drama.
bob
Gary Liguori wrote:
Does anyone out there know a good Physical Therapist
who perfroms deep tissue massage in the states of
Minnesota, North Dakota or South Dakota. I read Mark
Plaatjes article in march Runners World, and I'm
desperately trying to get help with an 8 year old knee
problme
Benji Durden wrote:
Finals
1 Dathan RitzenheinColorado 14:08.40 10
2 Kyle KingBaylor14:25.758
3 Scott RantallOklahoma State14:28.796
This is good news because he got his NCAA qualifier but
1 Matt Withrow (Sr.), Tinley Park (Andrew) 8:57.95
1 Matt Withrow (Sr.), Tinley Park (Andrew) 4:19.07
Great performances! A lot of depth in that 3200m field, too.
Same day double?
bob
Jim Gerweck wrote:
At this week's CT Class MM meet, one of the top 3 vaulters in the state
was
competing w/ one of those string and bead necklaces (the PV official
either
didn't notice or didn't care).
About 20 years ago, when my daughter was running in high school, one of her
teammates got
How do some people treat a two-time Olympic champion?
Don't ask. Check out this incredible/horrible story:
http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/04178/337949.stm
Well, I think he should've just paid the entry fee. It was his own
decision. This isn't a horror story. I'm sure he'll get over it.
Agreed. I have always had respect for Kingdom, but my estimation of him
just went down a couple notches (assuming of course the story is true).
You know what they say about bein' nice to the right people on the way up
Sooner or later you gonna meet them comin' down
Well, there ain't no goin'
Interesting the number of athletes who need inhalers. Do you suppose it
is out of proportion to the general population, and if so, why :-)
Maybe we inhale too much dirty air.
But seriously, I don't think the medication would give you any advantage.
I've been asthmatic most of my life and had a
malmo wrote:
Doesn't give you an advantage? Think again.
Remember Dr Smulovitz, the Eugene endocrinologist who supplied many of
Eugene's runners steroids in the 70s and 80s? In the 90s I know of many
athletes who where being treated by him for asthma. A sudden breakout of
inhalers for a
Those would be impressive examples if they were legit, but chances are
quite strong most, if not all, of them were bogus prescriptions for
performance enhancing reasons.
I don't believe many people are going to believe that Ryun was a drug cheat,
nor JJK, who is a spokesperson for various
malmo wrote:
I think it's more of the pill for every ill syndrome.
40 years ago were normal mentally healthy people taking Prozac? Ritalin?
Did
kids have ADD when I was in school?
Amen. There is a level of expectation that medication is the cure for
everything, with the drug companies reaping
- Original Message -
From: Martin J. Dixon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Track Field List t-and-f@darkwing.uoregon.edu; Track-Canada
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, August 05, 2005 4:00 PM
Subject: t-and-f: TFN WC Contest
Kind of last minute but here are the details:
Thanks to the people who pointed out the availability of the webcast.
The $4.95 is an incredible bargain that I enjoyed for today's second
round. I appreciated the continuous coverage of events and not having
the drivel that is too often a part of US TV coverage. The SP and
women's 10K were a
I have a question on being able to watch the coverage.
I haven't signed up with wcsn but I might do so today - depending
on the answer to a question.
I noticed that they tout live coverage. This doesn't help me
much, in that I'm at work most of the time that live coverage is
offered.
I can't get link to WCSN. Everything worked pretty well through
Monday. Now when I try to link I get a message which says
Server Error
This server has encountered an internal error which prevents it from
fulfilling your request. The most likely cause is a misconfiguration.
Please ask
I'll tell what else is so good...the absolutely WONDERFUL job that the
people at www.wcsn.com and Eurovision did with the World Championships
webcast. I actually pretty much gave up on trying to watch the PAX-TV
daily summaries because they were just so inferior, even though they were
using the
Incredible for a 100m athlete to take EPO. But then again, it probably
helps more for training than competition. Maybe Marion needs to give the
400m a shot before they yank her. (She was supposed to run Weltklasse today
in a loaded field, but I don't want to know what happened until I watch
I accidently came across some posts from Rono the other day on one of the
running forums. I almost couldn't believe that it was him, but the training
claims and master's mile goal matched those of the LA Times story.
Ironically, I had found the Rono posts while doing searches for another
of an imposter.
Given Henry's natural gifts and motivation, it will be fascinating to see
how this turns out. I'm sure lots of people are rooting for him.
bob
Any predictions for his 5k time at Carlsbad?
bob
From: Bob Duncan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Bob Duncan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'Track List
in Knoxville
for the 1982 TAC meet, when they let foreigners compete, and he was listed
in the program. I kept thinking that I was seeing him warming up, but it
was not to be.
bob
(KC4TEO)
-Original Message-
From: Bob Duncan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Mar 30, 2007 7:18 AM
To: t-and-f
This is old, but I just discovered it recently on youtube.com.
Check it out...
http://youtube.com/watch?v=MXgam88RUko
bob
Henry's website this morning reports that he ran 17:47 at Carlsbad!
bob
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From: Martin J. Dixon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: t-and-f@lists.uoregon.edu
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2007 7:28 AM
Subject: Re: t-and-f: Henry Rono
I'd buy that if you think he will pull a Bubka
What a legacy. Thanks for posting, Roger. I still have her picture up in
my home office from that racy track calendar way back when. Hopefully she
isn't done yet. It has been depressing watching her (or not) so far this
year.
bob
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