].
There is even a proposal [4].
Cheers fly
[1] https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/tagging/2010-July/002892.html
[2] https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/tagging/2010-July/002895.html
[3] https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/tagging/2014-July/018328.html
[4]
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Am 23.04.2015 um 19:43 schrieb Craig Wallace:
fire_extinguisher:class:uk=8A 55B 75F
In general and also valid here:
Please, add the LC to to value and not to the key. This way we only need
one tag and not one for every country.
fire_extinguisher:class=UK:8A;UK:55B;UK:75F
Thanks fly
for the whole street as you need to split them as soon as
one housenumber is missing or as soon as you have additional numbers
like alphabetical ones or 114/2.
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Are there addresses on both side of the street ?
Think it is wrong tagging as addr:interpolation=* should be on separate
way(s) on one or both side(s) of the street and the first plus the last
node get the addr:housenumber=*.
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Am 21.04.2015 um 19:25 schrieb Bryce Nesbitt:
JOSM's
?
communication:outdoor_dslam=* ?
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if a bollard is removable, similar would by
useful for any spikes.
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should not import the data unless you produce the information in some
way (either through manual mapping, computing the missing data or
getting it from other sources). Otherwise the data becomes dead mass
in the OSM database.
+1
Thanks for the wording.
Cheers fly
storage_tank might be a building.
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Am 14.04.2015 um 09:08 schrieb Volker Schmidt:
How would you tag:
Here are my reformulated answers.
Note that the answers do not apply to all countries, and most certainly not
to the US, where to my knowledge there are no distinctions between bicycle
and pedestrian use of sidewalks and
Am 14.04.2015 um 23:35 schrieb Bryce Nesbitt:
On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 12:40 PM, fly lowfligh...@googlemail.com wrote:
Why not map the amenity/features as own objects ?
If it is important for the route relations I rather have a new role
similar to guidepost for the starting/end node.
I
talking about named trailheads?
Why not map the amenity/features as own objects ?
If it is important for the route relations I rather have a new role
similar to guidepost for the starting/end node.
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Otherwise we quickly end up with a mechanical edit.
Could you please add some information about leisure=pitch and
leisure=sports_centre on the paintball page. shooting and archery should
me present as link as well.
Cheers fly
Am 08.04.2015 um 01:07 schrieb Warin:
-fly
Time? There are many proposals that are sitting around .. waiting on
this 'time' thing.. years ... Why? The ones I have looked at are not
changing .. nothing is happening with them - thus there looks
, instead of
using access tags.
How about opening_hours ? Know many side entrances (entrance=yes) with
different opening_hours. Which maps shows this ?
Cheers fly
[1] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag%3Aentrance%3Dstaircase
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Am 06.04.2015 um 23:45 schrieb Ilpo Järvinen:
On Mon, 6 Apr 2015, fly wrote:
Even entrance=staircase seems to be problematic as it overlaps with
entrance=main and entrance=service.
No it doesn't. The entrance is either entrance=staircase or
entrance=service so I see entrance=staircase
and area and could get rid of area=yes.
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As far as I can judge a clean separation would be the best:
for highway and aeroway representing the area as area:highway=*
respectively area:aeroway=* and only tag ways with highway and aeroway.
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Nice that you follow the new, unwritten rules.
Sorry, but I usually only vote by using the tag and not on the wiki,
still I would say, give it more time and improve the documentation as we
will need it anyway (both the tag and its docu).
Cheers fly
Am 01.04.2015 um 03:02 schrieb Warin:
Hi
is most of the
time not usable due to license problems.
cu fly
I'm pushing this offtopic and this discussion should probably go to
legal-talk (I've set reply-to there), but that paragraph does not match my
understanding of copyright law (IANAL, etc.).
My understanding is that a piece
for fuzzy areas.
Talk a look at e.g Hawaii and please tell me where the volcanoes start.
Somewhere below sea level ?
So far volcano should be mapped as node and everything else like crater
need an own tag.
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and how about landcover=* ?
We have some problematic tags beyond highway=* like barrier=*wall where
we might still need area=* but this should be only a handful of tags.
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Am 30.03.2015 um 23:35 schrieb John F. Eldredge:
It's about time that renderers started supporting semicolon-delimited lists.
Splitting apart a delimited string is a trivial programming task. I know,
having worked as a programmer for the last 29 years.
+1
cu fly
address, prizes and all the amenities is most of the
time not usable due to license problems.
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*=designated with the blue signs otherwise
only *=yes together with (motor_)vehicle=no.
Just had to point two other mappers to the wiki[1] the last week after
changing lots of
highway=path
bicycle=designated
foot=designated
to highway=cycleway
Cheers fly
[1] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki
tags.
Why not invent some more tags for constructions like buildings=* if useful.
cu fly
Am 23.03.2015 um 23:15 schrieb Warin:
start_date ? start of planning?, construction? occupation?
completion of planning? construction? occupation?
built_data ... is fairly simple. I like simple
=*
with only little more than 400 appearances according to taginfo [3]
really deserve an own wiki page [4] ?
Cheers fly
[1] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Template:Fuel_types
[2] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dfuel#Names
[3] https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/?key=tenant
in mind the amount of traffic between plain text and html.
We did not talk about security issues and scripts, yet.
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Am 22.03.2015 um 23:11 schrieb Warin:
On 23/03/2015 1:20 AM, fly wrote:
Am 17.03.2015 um 07:26 schrieb John Willis:
There was a big bruhaha about any mappers mapping Israeli military
installations. They were deleting everything and leaving notes not to
map things on that location, if I
to find some proper words.
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as an intermediate state
before micro-mapping. Thus once the utility is mapped as own object the
tag on the street should not be used anymore. Please, avoid duplications
in the data.
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Am 21.03.2015 um 18:43 schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer:
Am 21.03.2015 um 08:54 schrieb Michael Reichert naka...@gmx.net:
I agree. Because it is used on 47541 objects at OSM all over the world,
it's best to move the page to Key:smoking.
+1
+1 but please copy and archive the proposal
fly
Am 19.03.2015 um 17:43 schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer:
2015-03-19 17:12 GMT+01:00 fly lowfligh...@googlemail.com:
brand=none or
no_brand=yes to proper mark the independence.
some independent petrol stations are organized in associations and use
these as their brand, see e.g. here:
http
Am 17.03.2015 um 07:26 schrieb John Willis:
On Mar 17, 2015, at 3:17 PM, Mateusz Konieczny matkoni...@gmail.com wrote:
AKA military installations in certain countries I would happily map
military installation in Russia/North Korea/Iran/USA/whatever -
it is not illegal for me. Maybe they can
/three centuries ?
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No one out there interested in this ?
Any comments, please.
cu
Am 14.03.2015 um 18:47 schrieb fly:
For years the definitions about role forward/backward are completely
different on the wiki page about route=road [1] versus the page about
route relations (type=route) [2].
While all other
, so we always have to
distinguish between small and big suppliers.
operator=independent is similar to highway=living_street an easter egg.
The operator is still some judicial person and we need brand=none or
no_brand=yes to proper mark the independence.
cu fly
Am 19.03.2015 um 15:25 schrieb Jan
pages than translating
proposals in multiple languages.
One thing for creators of proposals which are not voted on and everybody
else would be to make the transfer to an official wiki page once the tag
is in major use. Then translation can start.
cu fly
introduced
the tag.
Seems to be really complex.
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and software.
Can we change/adjust route=road to follow the same definition as all
other routes ?
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[1] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:route=road
[2] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Relation:route#Members
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to be added to the wiki as the is non for route=foot
ATM and we need to evaluate the use-cases in advance.
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Am 04.03.2015 um 04:48 schrieb Steve Bennett:
Huh. And here in Australia (well, at least amongst the people I know) the
difference between a hike and any other form of walking
Am 01.03.2015 um 22:04 schrieb SomeoneElse:
On 01/03/2015 20:17, fly wrote:
Wait a minute, out of the 25,000 over 21,000 have a network=* which
leads me to the assumption that most should be tagged route=hiking.
What makes you think that?
Come on, just have a look at the numbers [1
Am 01.03.2015 um 23:11 schrieb SomeoneElse:
On 01/03/2015 21:48, fly wrote:
Am 01.03.2015 um 22:04 schrieb SomeoneElse:
On 01/03/2015 20:17, fly wrote:
Wait a minute, out of the 25,000 over 21,000 have a network=* which
leads me to the assumption that most should be tagged route=hiking.
What
for
shop=bags;suite-case;cartoon-box.
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Am 01.03.2015 um 19:47 schrieb SomeoneElse:
On 01/03/2015 17:43, fly wrote:
Is route=foot really the tag we want to use for walking routes and city
tours ?
There are 25,000 of the things out there - it's not exactly some niche
tagging:
http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/route=foot
Am 27.02.2015 um 16:56 schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer:
2015-02-27 16:36 GMT+01:00 fly lowfligh...@googlemail.com:
I think the easiest way to represent several upper and lower is to model
several stairs, one for each upper+lower combo. This can happen for
example
when there are blocks
Am 27.02.2015 um 12:09 schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer:
2015-02-27 9:07 GMT+01:00 johnw jo...@mac.com:
I read the wiki entry on steps (
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Dsteps
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway=steps) and the
discussion page,
and besides the
Am 27.02.2015 um 16:16 schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer:
2015-02-27 14:24 GMT+01:00 fly lowfligh...@googlemail.com:
Though, I am not sure how to model steps with fading steps to one or
both sides and several upper or lower
I am not sure if I understand fading steps correctly. Usually I'd say
:00 fly lowfligh...@googlemail.com:
Well, emergency=bay might interfere with access tagging and we should
probably use left/right as you will find them not only on dual carriage
roads.
emergency_bay=both/left/right ?
That seems reasonable to me.
How do we tag emergency lanes ?
I
Though, I have to admit that introducing new categories nor moving tags
from one to another is not easy and often bricks, like osm-carto will
not support it for quite some time, are through between your legs.
Still in favour of introducing some more categories.
cu fly
Am 24.02.2015 um 20:02
as additional tag on the way
with highway=*? Using lanes:-Tagging ?
I use lanes:-Tagging for bus_bays by the way.
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Am 25.02.2015 um 16:41 schrieb Martin Vonwald:
2015-02-25 16:34 GMT+01:00 fly lowfligh...@googlemail.com:
So what do you have in mind ? Tagging them as additional tag on the way
with highway=*? Using lanes:-Tagging ?
I don't think of them as lanes, so I wouldn't use some :lanes-tag. I
additional
features, like some wooden construction to drag the canoe along. Often
it works on the grass, too, but we do not have grass everywhere.
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remain on the highway ?
Cheers fly
Am 22.02.2015 um 15:25 schrieb Brad Neuhauser:
Thanks for the feedback! portage=* was my initial instinct, but I was
starting to second guess after finding the other tags. Cheers, Brad
On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 10:46 PM, Bryce Nesbitt bry...@obviously.com
allow taxi and delivery some time a day/week
highway=pedestrian
bicycle:conditional= yes @ (Mo-Sa 00:00-06:00,21:00-24:00, Su,PH)
taxi=yes
vehicle= delivery @ (Mo-Sa 05:00-16:00; PH off)
Which routing software is actually using all these tags ?
cu fly
Am 18.02.2015 um 14:36 schrieb Richard Z.:
suggest deprecating this particular value of aerialway as there are
much better ways to map industrial/freight lines with usage=* and
foot=* type restrictions.
The new description is already in:
Am 17.02.2015 um 01:07 schrieb Warin:
On 16/02/2015 11:33 PM, fly wrote:
Be careful some mast as support for wind generators might be entered.
Thought antenna vs mast might be a problem but not mast vs tower.
Should have added some picture. Please have a look at the pictures on
[1] and [2
in use and there seem to be some differences between a
playground feature and aerialways.
Otherwise you need to deprecate playground=zipwire.
cu fly
[1] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:playground
[2] https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/playground=zipwire
understand there can be only one landuse but neither the
proposal nor the wiki page really faces the problem especially regarding
deprecating other landuse like cemetery without offering a replacement.
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the tag is about land_use_, not land_ownership_
AFAIK we do not want to tag ownership in OSM.
and religious is no land use, exactly.
fly wrote on 2015-02-17 22:14:
I still do not understand, why we can not use religion=* without any
landuse.
on which area description?
I have
difference is that a Mast cannot be entered, while a
Turm is intended to be entered by humans.
Be careful some mast as support for wind generators might be entered.
Thought antenna vs mast might be a problem but not mast vs tower.
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Am 16.02.2015 um 13:33 schrieb fly:
Am 16.02.2015 um 11:32 schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer:
2015-02-16 4:25 GMT+01:00 Dave Swarthout daveswarth...@gmail.com:
On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 4:23 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer
dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote:
I've been taught that a mast is usually not self
the area type to offer
proper presets.
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easier to get the direction of the route with incomplete data.
cu fly
Am 16.02.2015 um 08:40 schrieb Jo:
On the one hand I'm not adding roles to the ways in PT routes relations
anymore, instead I add all the ways in the correct order. Some ways are
included twice.
But if you prefer to add them
is a higher category and we might difference between hiking
and walking.
Cheers fly
[1] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Relation:route
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Am 14.02.2015 um 02:41 schrieb Dave Swarthout:
I think amenity=waste_disposal with sub tags for the type of waste being
disposed of could be a workable solution. It's more complicated than using
another top level tag like dump_station, etc., for sewage but allows for
more specificity when
operating.
Guess people might already use opening_hours but I rather prefer
operating_time.
Am 10.02.2015 um 14:33 schrieb Lukas Schaus:
fly lowflight66 at googlemail.com, Mon Feb 9 15:47:00 UTC 2015
You did not comment on my question about micromapping a junction and
adding a highway=traffic_signal
together with your proposal.
Altogether, I am not sure if this relation is needed at all but for sure
not at the current base.
Still would prefer simple tags on the nodes if possible.
cu fly
[1] https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/48.10739/7.85080
[2] https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=18
Am 08.02.2015 um 19:45 schrieb Janko Mihelić:
2015-02-08 17:48 GMT+01:00 fly lowfligh...@googlemail.com:
Am 07.02.2015 um 11:19 schrieb Martin Vonwald:
2015-02-07 0:31 GMT+01:00 Janko Mihelić jan...@gmail.com:
2015-02-06 17:29 GMT+01:00 Luca Sigfrido Percich luca.perc...@gmail.com:
We could
of such tags and I try to update
the style. (Please contact me directly via martin (the usual) vonwald
(dot.) info for this)
+1
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clear.
Why is bicycle=yes and motorroad=no not enough ?
Please no separate ways, as you loose the information that you are using
a motorway and might looking forward to find a nice bicycle path.
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source:temperature=estimated
4) How do we tag a shower with cold and hot water ?
temperature=4 C;80 C ?
Does this depend on the hose, e.g. one separate for each temperature or
a mix-batterie ?
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understanding emergency need infos like width, max physical height
and about sharp turns.
All barriers should be tag separately and tags like access and oneway on
the ways are just some more information but not the most important ones.
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Am 02.02.2015 um 23:28 schrieb Andy Mabbett:
On 22 January 2015 at 18:00, fly lowfligh...@googlemail.com wrote:
Anyway, I do not know a single shop in my area which only sells them so
shop=* will never fit.
Never? I'm reminded of the maxim that the singular of data is not
anecdote
=no|no|no|no|no|designated
turn:lanes=|||slight_right|
only problem are once again lanes*=*
Would could handle boulder lanes like bicycle lanes and not counting
them would lead to
lanes=3
my 2 ct
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Am 03.02.2015 um 17:37 schrieb fly:
Hey
Can someone give me a hint how to tag two buildings which have a wall in
common and share one roof, e.g. roof:shape=hipped for both together.
Do we have a tag for only on one side hipped ?
I have this problem with several buildings but usually one
a gas station. Or does that already
exist?
Have a look at fuel=* [1]. Nice, we already have the value in key
variant and a key=value variant with possibility to use semi-colon.
At least, we should consider the same tags for the same substances/fuels.
How about substance=wood_pallets.
cu fly
[1
will always have a discussion
about natural=* I guess.
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[1] https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/search?q=quay#values
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splitting and combining ways ?
For bridges and tunnels this info belongs to the area or the relation
but not to an unclosed linear way.
About aeroways we already have an own thread as we have more problems
with them.
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needs some break/holiday and has to prove that he his willing
to accept a community.
I did not read any apology so far, which would be a first step.
Altogether we can use our time/power for better stuff than this
exhausting discussion which is leading nowhere
cu fly
always belongs to the plot and not to the
building and they are assigned in advance.
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easier for new mappers or preset creators.
Presets are a problem [1],[2] and it is not easy to present tag list
with more than 50 tags per object.
Cheers fly
[1] https://josm.openstreetmap.de/ticket/6268
[2] https://josm.openstreetmap.de/ticket/8993
Am 22.01.2015 um 19:43 schrieb Matthijs Melissen:
On 22 January 2015 at 18:00, fly lowfligh...@googlemail.com wrote:
Well the first page should be under proposal and it should not be listed
under shop or if only under some proposal paragraph
Only six shop types have been approved by the wiki
so key1, key2 would even be better.
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Sorry, was talking about the RFC discussion on this list [6] but your
link or better gmane.org [7] as threads are better listed is the
starting point.
The discussion at the same time about sidewalk as separate ways might be
also interesting.
cu fly
[6] http://thread.gmane.org
Please have a look into the archive of this list and the discussion of
the sidewalk proposal.
It was designed to replace footway=both/left/right/none but transition
is slow.
JOSM just introduced a validator warning offering an automatic change.
Speaking for myself, I did not care to change a
=*, support=* or ele=*.
Do we have traffic_sign=destination_sign or highway=destination_sign or
similar tag as main tag for the node.
Is gauntry that important, that we need an own main tag dor it or would
it better fit as subtag ? Eventually even support=* alone will work.
cu fly
.
Together with the :lanes tagging you do not need any relation at all but
could simply add the information on the node with :lanes tagging
cu fly
Am 18.01.2015 um 14:14 schrieb Tom Pfeifer:
Sorry but I'm sceptical about the scheme. It adds very little value
compared
to its own complexity
Am 17.01.2015 um 23:11 schrieb Friedrich Volkmann:
On 16.01.2015 05:48, Ineiev wrote:
On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 12:53:13PM +0100, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
you could use polygons (e.g. 2 distinct multipolygons, one for each
address), and add a note to inform your fellow mapping colleagues that
Am 16.01.2015 um 09:31 schrieb Martin Vonwald:
2015-01-15 22:12 GMT+01:00 fly lowfligh...@googlemail.com
mailto:lowfligh...@googlemail.com:
Please, do not forget to mention direction:lanes*.
destination:lanes ;-)
Thanks, yes.
Was tagging directions and writing about
Actually the signs alone make it difficult, we need good pictures with
the road and signs.
Often it is tagged on highway=*_link but for sure there are other cases.
Please, do not forget to mention direction:lanes*.
cu fly
Am 15.01.2015 um 19:48 schrieb Lukas Sommer:
To clarify the wiki
, marking the original ones
as outdated would be really appreciated.
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already had
similar problems with amenity=drinking_water + drinking_water=no. E.g.
we need some rework of the whole issue and at least two tags where one
could describe the method/structure to gain the water (well,tap ..).
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one is tied up.
Wonder how a net could fit under fence in foreign languages or if it is
much easier to have an own main value for it.
cu fly
Am 07.01.2015 um 05:50 schrieb Andrew Harvey:
I've also used it to tag nets in the water used to provide swimming
areas safe
=destination has some
legal aspect.
The other roads would be access=private.
Still be careful with access=* as it might depend on your traffic mode
and foot/bicycle/horse/ski might have different rules.
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2014-12-28 18:35 GMT+01:00 Ulrich Lamm ulamm.b...@t-online.de
mailto:ulamm.b...@t-online.de:
Hi mapping and cycling friends,
I have suggested a special highway-class for the slim tagging of
this very common kind of cycling facilities that up to now affords
to support. Have a look at the page for the key direction [3].
cu fly
[3] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:direction
Am 27.12.2014 um 23:56 schrieb François Lacombe:
I suggest to focus on what is actually approved.
Like location=*, usage=* or substation=*, main proposal features like
to be not well chosen as we have to guess.
Is it a really a shop or should it be tagged differently ?
If documenting a proposal would be the next step which should have been
written before the import anyway.
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