Re: [Talk-hr] Biciklisticke staze i rute

2009-09-30 Thread Valent Turkovic
On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 00:14:22 +0200, Matija Nalis wrote: BTW ima i proposal za takve paralelne staze: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/lane_and_lane_group Paralelne staze su mi jako odbojna ideja. Vidio sam neki grad u njemackoj gdje su zabrijali na paralelne staze i to je

Re: [Talk-hr] Javni podaci

2009-09-30 Thread Marko Dimjasevic
Bok! On Srijeda, 30. Rujan 2009. 21:43:52 Darko Boto wrote: Nacelno vec imam koncept u glavi no ako netko zna tocno artikulirati ono sto bi trebali traziti bilo bi mi od pomoci. Predlažem da onda to napišeš tu na listi, a tko je voljan (ja jesam) komentiram i eventualno predložim izmjene.

Re: [Talk-hr] Javni podaci

2009-09-30 Thread Marjan Vrban
On Wed, 30 Sep 2009 21:43:52 +0200, Darko Boto wrote: Danas sam razgovarao sa jednim covjekom iz Grada Zagreba u cijoj je nadleznosti GUP i pripadajuci podaci. Spomenuo sam OSM, javne podatke, slobodne licence i mogunost da nam grad ustupi podatke koji su nam ineresantni za OSM tj. da ih

Re: [talk-ph] need help on mapping for ondoy/Kestana flood victims in Metro Manila

2009-09-30 Thread maning sambale
Missing persons: http://ateneotaskforceondoy.misa.org.ph/guidelines This looks good. On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 1:31 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: Hi maning, The Ondoy situation maps on Google Maps My Maps

Re: [talk-ph] need help on mapping for ondoy/Kestana flood victims in Metro Manila

2009-09-30 Thread Eugene Alvin Villar
This looks good, but a map is missing, which would've helped in determining rescue routes. Geocoding this will be a challenge. On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 2:10 PM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.comwrote: Missing persons: http://ateneotaskforceondoy.misa.org.ph/guidelines This looks

[talk-ph] need help on mapping for ondoy/Kestana flood victims in Metro Manila

2009-09-30 Thread Andre Marcelo-Tanner
The Sahana thing is interesting, does that have OSM maps? ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph

[talk-ph] Fwd: [plug] Volunteers for Sahana Project (IT Professionals or Not), Stand Up, Rise UP!

2009-09-30 Thread eric pareja
From what I know about sahana, it uses googlemaps api... here's a post on another list I'm on that is asking for volunteers to get involved. Maybe later on, someone who knows code can work on integrating openstreetmap into sahana. It might be an interesting subproject. -- Forwarded

Re: [talk-ph] Fwd: Re: Fwd: need help on mapping for ondoy/Kestana flood victims in Metro Manila

2009-09-30 Thread Mikel Maron
Thanks Mike .. I just subscribed anyway Ushahidi can be deployed. I see from the archives of the list Sahana has been deployed elsewhere. I know the Sahana, Ushahidi, and other folks, so we can get assistance from a wide network. It would be great to catalog all these efforts to introduce

Re: [talk-ph] Fwd: need help on mapping for ondoy/Kestana flood victims in Metro Manila

2009-09-30 Thread maning sambale
Hi to all Mikel Maron is helping us setting-up an openstreetbug interface for the rebuilding efforts. There are several webmaps already in place and we don't want to muddle with these initiatives anymore. We might provide more noise than help. What I have in mind is for us to provide an

Re: [talk-ph] Fwd: need help on mapping for ondoy/Kestana flood victims in Metro Manila

2009-09-30 Thread Michael Cole
How much space you need on server? Regards Michael Cole. On Thursday 01 October 2009 9:33:56 am maning sambale wrote: Hi, Just got back online. On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 9:45 PM, Mikel Maron mikel_ma...@yahoo.com wrote: Are you on Skype/IM? Skype: mikelmaron gtalk: mikel.maron

Re: [talk-ph] Fwd: need help on mapping for ondoy/Kestana flood victims in Metro Manila

2009-09-30 Thread maning sambale
@ michael cole Let's wait till mikel maron set-up something for us. In the meantime, please help compiling more data on which areas have been affected. On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 10:36 AM, Michael Cole colemic...@gmail.com wrote: How much space you need on server? Regards Michael Cole. On

Re: [talk-ph] Holiday declared tomorrow maybe....

2009-09-30 Thread maning sambale
We're OK. I live in a neighborhood were neighbors are neighborly. Thanks anyway. On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 12:40 PM, Michael Cole colemic...@gmail.com wrote: Ed or manning you need help.. If not ed or manning anyone else on this list need a extra large set of hands to move stuff and help with

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Protection time of ODbL

2009-09-30 Thread Ed Avis
Matt Amos zerebub...@... writes: Have we reached a consensus that the contents of the database are themselves not protected by copyright and do we explicitly say that we don't claim any copyright? yes. see the contributor terms document. I think what might have been meant is not 'does the OSM

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Protection time of ODbL

2009-09-30 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, James Livingston wrote: On 30/09/2009, at 7:36 AM, Frederik Ramm wrote: Question is: 1. what about the contents themselves. Have we reached a consensus that the contents of the database are themselves not protected by copyright and do we explicitly say that we don't claim any

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Protection time of ODbL

2009-09-30 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Frederik Ramm wrote: For example if OSM user n80 artfully crafts a way that doesn't even exist and uploads it to OSM, then that way would perhaps be protected by copyright in some jurisdictions, completely independent of the database and whether or not it is substantial. I think we need

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Protection time of ODbL

2009-09-30 Thread Matt Amos
On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 8:45 AM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: Matt Amos wrote:   And 2. you are wrong because ODBL tries exactly that, to assert rights over the collection even in jurisdictions where there are none, by invoking the idea of a contract - so where is it written that

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] OS map copyright expiry dates, FOI request

2009-09-30 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
I've mad a further FOI request to the OS today seeking clarification with respect to those OS maps that do not carry a Crown Copyright (c) date. This is the case with a lot of the First edition 1:25,000 sheets which have a published date and a separate corrections/changes/additions date. I'm very

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] OS map copyright expiry dates, FOI request

2009-09-30 Thread SteveC
On 30 Sep 2009, at 04:50, Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) wrote: I've mad a further FOI request to the OS today seeking clarification with respect to those OS maps that do not carry a Crown Copyright (c) date. This is the case with a lot of the First edition 1:25,000 sheets which

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - landuse=orchard

2009-09-30 Thread Gustav Foseid
On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 1:54 PM, Emilie Laffray emilie.laff...@gmail.comwrote: That would mean that Mapnik needs to be checking a secondary field to determine what to display. If the renderer doesn't do that, you will end up with a map that is poorer in the end. In your case, that would mean

Re: [OSM-talk] Field boundaries

2009-09-30 Thread Peter Childs
2009/9/29 Dave F. dave...@madasafish.com: Peter Childs wrote: 2009/9/28 Mark Williams mark@blueyonder.co.uk: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 courtland.yoc...@mindspring.com wrote: I've been thinking a bit about this from a very different perspective - that of parks

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - landuse=orchard

2009-09-30 Thread John Smith
2009/9/30 Gustav Foseid gust...@gmail.com: snip +1 I fail to see any disadvantages of using landuse=farm + farm=orchard (or something similar). Waisting a few bits in a database is simply not a problem. If you pre-process the information, eg osm2pgsql drops the type of farm use into the

[OSM-talk] Mobile countryside surveying tool

2009-09-30 Thread Nick Whitelegg
Hello everyone, With all the talk of countryside surveying issues recently (placement of hedges etc) I'm wondering if it would be a good idea to develop some sort of mobile countryside surveying tool where people could note down, in the field, the placement of hedges relative to paths and the

Re: [OSM-talk] Mobile countryside surveying tool

2009-09-30 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Nick Whitelegg wrote: Sent: 30 September 2009 8:56 AM To: talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: [OSM-talk] Mobile countryside surveying tool Hello everyone, With all the talk of countryside surveying issues recently (placement of hedges etc) I'm wondering if it would be a good idea to develop some

[OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - Additional parking types for amenity=parking

2009-09-30 Thread Aleksandr Dezhin
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Additional_parking_types_for_amenity%3Dparking#Voting ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Field boundaries

2009-09-30 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Nick Whitelegg wrote: Sent: 24 September 2009 10:30 AM To: Mike Harris Cc: talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Field boundaries Hi Mike, OS one-inch (or 1:50k) mapping does not show field boundaries. But is anyone working on out-of-copyright 1:25k (or larger scale) mapping? Mike

Re: [OSM-talk] Mobile countryside surveying tool

2009-09-30 Thread Sam Vekemans
And of course, the que from mapOSMatic, so to print off a rendered map (with all the fixins), and simply draw on the map to make it better :-) Drawing all kinds of features, and with the GPS, just record the waypoint # and write it directly on the map. And update the changes later with JOSM.

Re: [OSM-talk] Field boundaries

2009-09-30 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Dave F. wrote: Sent: 24 September 2009 6:36 PM Cc: talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Field boundaries Mike Harris wrote: Dave makes a good point - the most important thing for walkers in farmed rural areas is often to know on which side of the hedge / fence they ought to be. OS

Re: [OSM-talk] address interpolation

2009-09-30 Thread James Livingston
On 28/09/2009, at 2:22 PM, Marcus Wolschon wrote: 25A-25C should work with addr:interpolation=alphabetic . However not all software that supports interpolation at all, supports this interpolation-mode yet. 25-25A would not. I'm not sure you how you can interpolate things like this correctly

Re: [OSM-talk] Field boundaries

2009-09-30 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Peter Childs wrote: Sent: 28 September 2009 3:42 PM Cc: talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Field boundaries 2009/9/28 Mark Williams mark@blueyonder.co.uk: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 courtland.yoc...@mindspring.com wrote: I've been thinking a bit about this

Re: [OSM-talk] Field boundaries

2009-09-30 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Dave F. wrote: Sent: 29 September 2009 10:29 PM To: Peter Childs Cc: talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Field boundaries Peter Childs wrote: 2009/9/28 Mark Williams mark@blueyonder.co.uk: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 courtland.yoc...@mindspring.com wrote:

Re: [OSM-talk] Breach of Copyright?

2009-09-30 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Tue, 29 Sep 2009, John Smith wrote: 2009/9/29 ed...@billiau.net: 2009/9/29 ed...@billiau.net: Classic! I always thought the americans bastardised the english language, but I came to find out in recent years american english is an older form of english and well yea, they're

Re: [OSM-talk] Clarifying and representing road markings at junctions

2009-09-30 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
you could model it like this (see attached, colours are just indicating the ways, not highway-classes) cheers, Martin attachment: Bildschirmfoto.png___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - landuse=orchard

2009-09-30 Thread Pieren
On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 8:28 AM, Gustav Foseid gust...@gmail.com wrote: If using farm as a base tag (or forest), you will make sure that thos not interested in the details, still can use the data. To me that is a very clear advantage. You have two choices: Let those interested in detail check

Re: [OSM-talk] Field boundaries

2009-09-30 Thread Donald Allwright
Or better still, train dogs to walk only under hedges and fit them with a GPS :-) I can't help thinking that this would open up a whole new genre of geographical-based games, ranging from geocaching (where did I hide that bone?) and orienteering to canine endurance records (my dog walked 100

Re: [OSM-talk] address interpolation

2009-09-30 Thread marcus.wolschon
On Wed, 30 Sep 2009 18:51:35 +1000, James Livingston doc...@mac.com wrote: On 28/09/2009, at 2:22 PM, Marcus Wolschon wrote: 25A-25C should work with addr:interpolation=alphabetic . However not all software that supports interpolation at all, supports this interpolation-mode yet. 25-25A

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] Statistics on changesets by created_by=*

2009-09-30 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Eugene Alvin Villar wrote: Caveat: Only when considering the number of changesets. If one would like to consider the number of primitives (nodes, ways, relations) edited then the results will likely be different (I'm guessing the bulk imports would go up a level or two). The interesting

Re: [OSM-talk] Clarifying and representing road markings at junctions

2009-09-30 Thread Richard Mann
You could record it as a type of turn-restriction relation, but I have a prejudice against those, having copied them down a bus route for quite a way until I realised I'd picked up a stray. That (of course) may be a problem with the editor I'm using, but keeping it simple is always a good maxim.

Re: [OSM-talk] Field boundaries

2009-09-30 Thread Dave F.
Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) wrote: Or better still, train dogs to walk only under hedges and fit them with a GPS :-) What tag should we use for territorial pissings? ;) ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] Statistics on changesets by created_by=*

2009-09-30 Thread Emilie Laffray
2009/9/30 Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net Otherwise my theory du jour is that JOSM's current leading position is largely because osm-fr couldn't be arsed to get their Cadastre stuff working under any other editor. ;) I promise I will take Pieren code the day you have a fully working

Re: [OSM-talk] Clarifying and representing road markings at junctions

2009-09-30 Thread David Earl
On 30/09/2009 10:20, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: you could model it like this (see attached, colours are just indicating the ways, not highway-classes) Yes, that's also what I typically do, e.g. http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=52.596517lon=0.376144zoom=18layers=B000FTF Even though the kerb

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] Statistics on changesets by created_by=*

2009-09-30 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Emilie Laffray wrote: I promise I will take Pieren code the day you have a fully working plugin mechanism in Potlatch 2 to add the Cadastre ;) Now there's a challenge! You're on. cheers Richard ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk] Mobile countryside surveying tool

2009-09-30 Thread Dave F.
Nick Whitelegg wrote: Hello everyone, With all the talk of countryside surveying issues recently (placement of hedges etc) I'm wondering if it would be a good idea to develop some sort of mobile countryside surveying tool where people could note down, in the field, the placement of hedges

Re: [OSM-talk] Field boundaries

2009-09-30 Thread Peter Childs
2009/9/30 Dave F. dave...@madasafish.com: Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) wrote: Or better still, train dogs to walk only under hedges and fit them with a GPS :-) What tag should we use for territorial pissings? ;) I think that would have to be an admin_level=11 or maybe 12. Peter.

Re: [OSM-talk] Mobile countryside surveying tool

2009-09-30 Thread John Smith
2009/9/30 Nick Whitelegg nick.whitel...@solent.ac.uk: Target platform would be any device supporting JavaME. Why JavaME exactly? It's kind of getting long in the tooth compared to JVMs running on modern smart phones Not to mention smart phones usually have a soft or hard keyboard, rather

Re: [OSM-talk] address interpolation

2009-09-30 Thread David Earl
On 30/09/2009 09:51, James Livingston wrote: On 28/09/2009, at 2:22 PM, Marcus Wolschon wrote: 25A-25C should work with addr:interpolation=alphabetic . However not all software that supports interpolation at all, supports this interpolation-mode yet. 25-25A would not. I'm not sure you how

Re: [OSM-talk] Flickr Now Supports OSM Tags

2009-09-30 Thread Dave Stubbs
On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 10:42 PM, Dave F. dave...@madasafish.com wrote: Frankie Roberto wrote: 2009/9/29 Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com mailto:dieterdre...@gmail.com     It works for building=yes, but not building=true. Well, Flickr says     This is a feature in OpenStreetMap

Re: [OSM-talk] Field boundaries

2009-09-30 Thread Emilie Laffray
2009/9/30 Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) ajrli...@googlemail.com Whoooh! That’s a bit ancient. With a modern high sensitivity receiver you should be generally around 5m of error and certainly not more than 10m if you are in sight or an SBAS Egnos/Wass satellite and your GPS can use it.

Re: [OSM-talk] Flickr Now Supports OSM Tags

2009-09-30 Thread Dave F.
Dave Stubbs wrote: I wouldn't read too much into it, especially as they said, we’ve almost certainly got at least some of it wrong but hopefully we got part of it right and can correct the rest as we go Dave You see, this is the problem. I don't think, in this instance, they've done

Re: [OSM-talk] Field boundaries

2009-09-30 Thread Dave F.
Emilie Laffray wrote: 2009/9/30 Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) ajrli...@googlemail.com mailto:ajrli...@googlemail.com Whoooh! That’s a bit ancient. With a modern high sensitivity receiver you should be generally around 5m of error and certainly not more than 10m if

Re: [OSM-talk] Flickr Now Supports OSM Tags

2009-09-30 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Dave F. wrote: Who, within OSM in their right sense of mind, would object to being forced to use just Yes/No. I mean it's just an on/off switch! Says who? Bye Frederik ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk] Field boundaries

2009-09-30 Thread Emilie Laffray
2009/9/30 Dave F. dave...@madasafish.com Emilie Laffray wrote: 2009/9/30 Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) ajrli...@googlemail.commailto: ajrli...@googlemail.com Whoooh! That’s a bit ancient. With a modern high sensitivity receiver you should be generally around 5m of error and

Re: [OSM-talk] Flickr Now Supports OSM Tags

2009-09-30 Thread Dave F.
Frederik Ramm wrote: Hi, Dave F. wrote: Who, within OSM in their right sense of mind, would object to being forced to use just Yes/No. I mean it's just an on/off switch! Says who? Err... I do. Could you expand on why you might think otherwise? Cheers Dave F.

[OSM-talk] Tiger data and county lines

2009-09-30 Thread Tim Litwiller
I've been noticing that in the US tiger data in central Kansas - ways do not cross county lines. Each county has their own county line road and the roads from that county connect to it - but it overlays the next countys county line road. Is there some automated way to select both ways and

[OSM-talk] Overlay showing wikipedia links

2009-09-30 Thread andrzej zaborowski
Hi, seeing that features that get visualised in some form somewhere (e.g. on a slippymap on the web) get mapped more often than other features, I've set up an overlay that shows the External Links (proposal at [1]), most importantly links to wikipedia pages [2] directly from objects in OSM. It's

Re: [OSM-talk] Mobile countryside surveying tool

2009-09-30 Thread Kai Krueger
Nick Whitelegg wrote: Hello everyone, With all the talk of countryside surveying issues recently (placement of hedges etc) I'm wondering if it would be a good idea to develop some sort of mobile countryside surveying tool where people could note down, in the field, the placement of

Re: [OSM-talk] Tiger data and county lines

2009-09-30 Thread Andy Allan
On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 2:37 PM, Tim Litwiller t...@litwiller.net wrote: I've been noticing that in the US tiger data in central Kansas - ways do not cross county lines. Each county has their own county line road and the roads from that county connect to it - but it overlays the next countys

Re: [OSM-talk] Mobile countryside surveying tool

2009-09-30 Thread Nick Whitelegg
Why JavaME exactly? It's kind of getting long in the tooth compared to JVMs running on modern smart phones Not to mention smart phones usually have a soft or hard keyboard, rather than twiddling about with 12 keys to type things out To try and support as many as possible - Qt is another

Re: [OSM-talk] Flickr Now Supports OSM Tags

2009-09-30 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2009/9/30 Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason ava...@gmail.com: Which tag were you talking about that you thought was simply a yes/no option? As Kyle Gordon brought up in this thread the issue is that the OSM data has both building=yes/no and building=true/false and flickr only supports the former. but

Re: [OSM-talk] Flickr Now Supports OSM Tags

2009-09-30 Thread Jonathan Bennett
Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote: As Kyle Gordon brought up in this thread the issue is that the OSM data has both building=yes/no and building=true/false and flickr only supports the former. Dave F. suggested that the OSM database be normalized to just use the former because that's simpler.

Re: [OSM-talk] Tiger data and county lines

2009-09-30 Thread Mike N.
I've been noticing that in the US tiger data in central Kansas - ways do not cross county lines. Each county has their own county line road and the roads from that county connect to it - but it overlays the next countys county line road. Is there some automated way to select both ways and

Re: [OSM-talk] Flickr Now Supports OSM Tags

2009-09-30 Thread Dave F.
Jonathan Bennett wrote: He seemed to be suggesting that the values be *constrained* to only those two values, which creates as many problems as it solves, since it precludes using a precise value for building=*, such as building=house. Martin/Jonathan - Please see my reply at 15:44

Re: [OSM-talk] Flickr Now Supports OSM Tags

2009-09-30 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote: As Kyle Gordon brought up in this thread the issue is that the OSM data has both building=yes/no and building=true/false and flickr only supports the former. Yes but OSM data also has 200,000 building=hut, 25,000 building=residential, 20,000

Re: [OSM-talk] Flickr Now Supports OSM Tags

2009-09-30 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Dave F. wrote: I don't understand why others should have to spend time sorting out OSM's vagaries purely because we can't decide. The yes/no question may be the most trivial of cases but generally we are reluctant to force a structure onto our mappers. When choosing between something

Re: [OSM-talk] Mobile countryside surveying tool

2009-09-30 Thread John Smith
2009/10/1 Nick Whitelegg nick.whitel...@solent.ac.uk: To try and support as many as possible - Qt is another option when the Symbian version becomes available, Android is interesting but maybe not widespread enough yet, iPhone is platform specific (and has to be approved by Apple which is a

Re: [OSM-talk] Mobile countryside surveying tool

2009-09-30 Thread Richard Fairhurst
John Smith wrote: The company I work for has released a BB/Android app to do POI stuff, we may release an iPhone/WinMo and Symbian versions in future depending on interest etc. Shit, you mean you actually have a productive job rather than just posting inconsequential rubbish to the mailing

Re: [OSM-talk] Flickr Now Supports OSM Tags

2009-09-30 Thread Chris Hill
Dave F. wrote: Dave Stubbs wrote: I wouldn't read too much into it, especially as they said, we’ve almost certainly got at least some of it wrong but hopefully we got part of it right and can correct the rest as we go Dave You see, this is the problem. I don't think, in this

Re: [OSM-talk] Mobile countryside surveying tool

2009-09-30 Thread John Smith
2009/10/1 Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net: John Smith wrote: The company I work for has released a BB/Android app to do POI stuff, we may release an iPhone/WinMo and Symbian versions in future depending on interest etc. Shit, you mean you actually have a productive job rather than

Re: [OSM-talk] Mobile countryside surveying tool

2009-09-30 Thread Richard Fairhurst
John Smith wrote: Perhaps you should heed your own advice occasionally. 166 vs 26 postings to talk@ in September thus far, but you know, I guess I've got a few hours to catch you up yet. Richard ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk] Tiger data and county lines

2009-09-30 Thread Alex Mauer
On 09/30/2009 09:46 AM, Mike N. wrote: JOSM - How to select a way underneath another way? Usually admin boundaries are selected when trying to select the way. When there are 2 duplicate ways and nodes under an admin boundary, this is very time consuming. middle-click and hold to

Re: [OSM-talk] Mobile countryside surveying tool

2009-09-30 Thread Nick Whitelegg
This sounds interesting, but could you describe a bit more what you had in mind? I would particularly be interested to know how it would differ to the already existing mobile tools and if it is not possible to add this functionality to them, given that you can do a fair amount with them

Re: [OSM-talk] Flickr Now Supports OSM Tags

2009-09-30 Thread Dave Stubbs
On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 2:02 PM, Dave F. dave...@madasafish.com wrote: Dave Stubbs wrote: I wouldn't read too much into it, especially as they said, we’ve almost certainly got at least some of it wrong but hopefully we got part of it right and can correct the rest as we go Dave You see,

Re: [OSM-talk] Flickr Now Supports OSM Tags

2009-09-30 Thread SteveC
On 30 Sep 2009, at 08:15, Chris Hill wrote: Dave F. wrote: Dave Stubbs wrote: I wouldn't read too much into it, especially as they said, we’ve almost certainly got at least some of it wrong but hopefully we got part of it right and can correct the rest as we go Dave You see, this

Re: [OSM-talk] Flickr Now Supports OSM Tags

2009-09-30 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Dave Stubbs wrote: PS. anyone notice the Potlatch 2 plug?! Any AS3/Flex developers around who want to help out? Code is in svn at: http://trac.openstreetmap.org/browser/applications/editors/potlatch2 It is really, really awesome, do come and play. So far we have a beautifully extensible yet

Re: [OSM-talk] Flickr Now Supports OSM Tags

2009-09-30 Thread Dave F.
Frederik Ramm wrote: Hi, Dave F. wrote: I don't understand why others should have to spend time sorting out OSM's vagaries purely because we can't decide. The yes/no question may be the most trivial of cases but generally we are reluctant to force a structure onto our mappers. But

Re: [OSM-talk] Flickr Now Supports OSM Tags

2009-09-30 Thread Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 4:44 PM, Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net wrote: Dave Stubbs wrote: PS. anyone notice the Potlatch 2 plug?! Any AS3/Flex developers around who want to help out? Code is in svn at: http://trac.openstreetmap.org/browser/applications/editors/potlatch2 It is really,

Re: [OSM-talk] Flickr Now Supports OSM Tags

2009-09-30 Thread Dave F.
Dave Stubbs wrote: On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 2:02 PM, Dave F. dave...@madasafish.com wrote: Dave Stubbs wrote: I wouldn't read too much into it, especially as they said, we’ve almost certainly got at least some of it wrong but hopefully we got part of it right and can correct the rest

Re: [OSM-talk] Flickr Now Supports OSM Tags

2009-09-30 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Dave F. wrote: If, by users, you mean the likes of Flickr, I do. They have resources to bring our data into the shape they want it in. I'm not saying let's make it extra difficult for them - but I don't see that we should change anything just because someone might like our data better

Re: [OSM-talk] Overlay showing wikipedia links

2009-09-30 Thread Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 1:49 PM, andrzej zaborowski balr...@gmail.com wrote: It's at http://www.openstreetmap.pl/wp (see caveats below). Neat.  * Blue dots are wikipedia links, grey dots are other External Links (website= and url= tags).  The wikipedia= value syntax is two-letter-code:Title

Re: [OSM-talk] Field boundaries

2009-09-30 Thread Mike Harris
Not sure I entirely agree ... 1. Many of the public rights of way drawn on OS maps - especially in upland areas - are approximations done by someone sitting at a desk - so the GPS work on the ground is invaluable. Even the lines on the definitive maps are often approximations drawn by a desk

Re: [OSM-talk] Flickr Now Supports OSM Tags

2009-09-30 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote: Do you have a bugtracker or some list of issues you're working towards before you can release it? I couldn't find anything. I've just committed a headline list of issues - TODO.txt in the usual place. cheers Richard

Re: [OSM-talk] Clarifying and representing road markings at junctions

2009-09-30 Thread Blaž Lorger
On Tuesday 29 September 2009 21:59:10 Matt Williams wrote: I've been noticing recently a problem we're going to/already have in our data when it comes to routing directions particularly. It concerns how to define continuations of roads at junctions and/or the road markings that delineate that.

Re: [OSM-talk] Clarifying and representing road markings at junctions

2009-09-30 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2009/9/30 Blaž Lorger blaz.lor...@triera.net: I don't see where problem lies. Is it that routing software will not be able to choose right route? You never stated it clearly, but if I understand correctly road from segment a to b has right of way over segment c. So all you need is a way to

Re: [OSM-talk] Clarifying and representing road markings at junctions

2009-09-30 Thread Blaž Lorger
On Wednesday 30 September 2009 21:00:12 Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: 2009/9/30 Blaž Lorger blaz.lor...@triera.net: I don't see where problem lies. Is it that routing software will not be able to choose right route? You never stated it clearly, but if I understand correctly road from

Re: [OSM-talk] Clarifying and representing road markings at junctions

2009-09-30 Thread Roy Wallace
On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 7:35 PM, David Earl da...@frankieandshadow.com wrote: On 30/09/2009 10:20, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: you could model it like this (see attached, colours are just indicating the ways, not highway-classes) Yes, that's also what I typically do, e.g.

Re: [OSM-talk] Flickr Now Supports OSM Tags

2009-09-30 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Elizabeth Dodd wrote: For starters if the maintainers of JOSM Potlatch and Merkaartor encouraged the use of yes/no it would be a way forward. Potlatch does indeed have 'yes' (rather than 'true' or '1') in its presets and autocomplete. cheers Richard -- View this message in context:

Re: [OSM-talk] Tiger data and county lines

2009-09-30 Thread Russ Nelson
Mike N. writes: JOSM - How to select a way underneath another way? Usually admin boundaries are selected when trying to select the way. When there are 2 duplicate ways and nodes under an admin boundary, this is very time consuming. You're right, it's hard to select two ways when

Re: [OSM-talk] Tiger data and county lines

2009-09-30 Thread Dodi
-Original Message- From: talk-boun...@openstreetmap.org [mailto:talk- boun...@openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of Russ Nelson Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 1:03 AM To: Mike N. Cc: talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Tiger data and county lines Mike N. writes: JOSM -

Re: [OSM-talk] Flickr Now Supports OSM Tags

2009-09-30 Thread Russ Nelson
SteveC writes: Yeah, OK Dave, we've got the message, you don't free-format tags. Unfortunately you're going to have to get used to it, because it is the basis of the OPENstreetmap and, in my opinion, one of the reasons it is as successful as it is. +1 -1. Don't confuse anarchy

Re: [OSM-talk] Flickr Now Supports OSM Tags

2009-09-30 Thread Dave F.
Richard Fairhurst wrote: Elizabeth Dodd wrote: For starters if the maintainers of JOSM Potlatch and Merkaartor encouraged the use of yes/no it would be a way forward. Potlatch does indeed have 'yes' (rather than 'true' or '1') in its presets and autocomplete. cheers Richard

Re: [OSM-talk] Flickr Now Supports OSM Tags

2009-09-30 Thread Dave F.
Russ Nelson wrote: SteveC writes: Yeah, OK Dave, we've got the message, you don't free-format tags. Unfortunately you're going to have to get used to it, because it is the basis of the OPENstreetmap and, in my opinion, one of the reasons it is as successful as it is. +1

Re: [OSM-talk] Flickr Now Supports OSM Tags

2009-09-30 Thread Iván Sánchez Ortega
El Jueves, 1 de Octubre de 2009, Dave F. escribió: -1. Don't confuse anarchy with chaos. SteveC is our leader (and should behave as such by Giving Advice), but he's only our leader so far as he gives Good Advice. A leader in an anarchic state? How does that work? ;-) With cake. And

Re: [OSM-talk] Flickr Now Supports OSM Tags

2009-09-30 Thread Dave F.
Frederik Ramm wrote: Hi, Dave F. wrote: If, by users, you mean the likes of Flickr, I do. They have resources to bring our data into the shape they want it in. I'm not saying let's make it extra difficult for them I think that having *unnecessary* data, such as the tag values we've been

Re: [OSM-talk] Breach of Copyright?

2009-09-30 Thread Dave F.
Russ Nelson wrote: Dave F. writes: I look for /indications /of rights of way on my OS map. Initially this is the only evidence I have. If I see it's not indicated in OSM I go walk it. I'm pretty certain I'm not the only one who does this. Is this a breach of copyright? Not

Re: [OSM-talk] Flickr Now Supports OSM Tags

2009-09-30 Thread SteveC
On 30 Sep 2009, at 16:14, Russ Nelson wrote: SteveC writes: Yeah, OK Dave, we've got the message, you don't free-format tags. Unfortunately you're going to have to get used to it, because it is the basis of the OPENstreetmap and, in my opinion, one of the reasons it is as successful as it

Re: [OSM-talk] Flickr Now Supports OSM Tags

2009-09-30 Thread Dave F.
SteveC wrote: On 30 Sep 2009, at 16:14, Russ Nelson wrote: SteveC writes: Yeah, OK Dave, we've got the message, you don't free-format tags. Unfortunately you're going to have to get used to it, because it is the basis of the OPENstreetmap and, in my opinion, one of the reasons it

Re: [OSM-talk] Breach of Copyright?

2009-09-30 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2009/10/1 Russ Nelson nel...@crynwr.com: Obviously you are in the UK making reference to a work under UK copyright, so none of this applies to you.  I merely put this here so that people in the US understand that they CAN do what you are doing. even when the servers are in the UK? Martin

[OSM-talk] How do I connect to openstreetmap via wms so my web application can use openstreetmap as my base layer?

2009-09-30 Thread John Mitchell
Hi, How do I connect to openstreetmap via wms so my web application can use openstreetmap as my base layer. Thanks, -- John J. Mitchell ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] nginx and mod_tile

2009-09-30 Thread John Smith
2009/10/1 Kenneth Gonsalves law...@au-kbc.org: hi, I have been serving osm using apache and mod_tile. Now I have shifted to nginx as it is much faster and uses less memory - any idea how to serve osm using nginx? I'd love to know too, I use lighttpd normally, but for the tile server I still

Re: [OSM-talk] How do I connect to openstreetmap via wms so my web application can use openstreetmap as my base layer?

2009-09-30 Thread Richard Weait
On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 9:47 PM, John Mitchell mitchellj...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, How do I connect to openstreetmap via wms so my web application can use openstreetmap as my base layer. Carefully? ;-) See http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tile_usage_policy Any use of the system that causes

Re: [OSM-talk] Flickr Now Supports OSM Tags

2009-09-30 Thread Ulf Lamping
Chris Hill schrieb: Yeah, OK Dave, we've got the message, you don't free-format tags. Unfortunately you're going to have to get used to it, because it is the basis of the OPENstreetmap and, in my opinion, one of the reasons it is as successful as it is. Successful in what way?

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