Re: [Talk-GB] addr:place

2014-10-26 Thread Chris Hill
On 26/10/14 19:02, Andy Street wrote: On Sun, 26 Oct 2014 13:11:39 + Will Phillips wp4...@gmail.com wrote: My understanding has always been that addr:place is similar to addr:street, except when the unit in question isn't a street but some other grouping of addresses such as a business

Re: [Talk-GB] addressing (was addr:place)

2014-10-26 Thread Chris Hill
On 26/10/14 21:58, Andy Street wrote: On Sun, 26 Oct 2014 19:27:11 + Chris Hill o...@raggedred.net wrote: We in OSM can do SO much better and we must not use the imaginary, spurious and wholly wrong concept of Royal Fail's postal town. Postal towns are not real and have no place in OSM

Re: [Talk-GB] Imaginery footpaths added by user Gavaasuren

2014-08-18 Thread Chris Hill
I have already notified tye data working group. The user was contacted, his imaginary work was not reverted and he was not blocked, he continues to add complete junk from his armchair. He needs to be stopped. On 18 August 2014 10:59:22 GMT+01:00, SomeoneElse li...@mail.atownsend.org.uk wrote:

Re: [OSM-talk] photon v0.1

2014-08-14 Thread Chris Hill
I can't find a way to enter anything using the Android browser or Chrome for Android. Phone support seems vital for such an app. It works well on my laptop and gave good results for the few I tried. On 14 August 2014 09:30:40 GMT+01:00, Christoph Lingg | komoot christ...@komoot.de wrote: Dear

Re: [OSM-talk] photon v0.1

2014-08-14 Thread Chris Hill
for the feedback. Cheers Chris Hill schrieb I can't find a way to enter anything using the Android browser or Chrome for Android. Phone support seems vital for such an app. It works well on my laptop and gave good results for the few I tried. On 14 August 2014 09:30:40 GMT+01:00

Re: [Talk-GB] NaPTAN (stop) import

2014-07-31 Thread Chris Hill
On 31/07/14 17:41, Stuart Reynolds wrote: Many thanks - some interesting viewpoints there. I think it is safe to say that things will have improved from 2009, but also fair to admit that some data is not structured in the way that even I would like. Yorkshire is a particular problem for us.

Re: [Talk-GB] Getting Highway Agency information into OSM

2014-07-03 Thread Chris Hill
On 03/07/14 17:51, John Baker wrote: The first thing I am worried about is the copyright of the various plans. Some/many seem to be derived from OS maps. A legitimate concern. Now I am no expert on the copyright situation here and dialogue is difficult they know little about OSM really. He

Re: [Talk-GB] OSM Analysis updated with May 2014 OS Locator data

2014-05-18 Thread Chris Hill
I'd go for not:name, because the abbreviation is not the real name and it is the convention established soon after the OS Opendata was released. Where OS suddenly get these strange names from seems odd to me. It's almost as though they want their Opendata to be hard to use. --- cheers, Chris

[OSM-talk] New layout

2013-12-02 Thread Chris Hill
I've tried to find the link to blogs.openstreetmap.org on the new layout and couldn't find it. I wonder if the 'User Diaries' menu might be renamed to 'Community' and the diaries, blogs and possibly a link for the Foundation be on a dropdown from there? The blogs is a useful link to what is

Re: [Talk-GB] Mapping climbing routes/areas.

2013-10-22 Thread Chris Hill
On 22/10/13 21:58, Derry Hamilton wrote: Hi, Is there a current/acceptable method for mapping climbs? Each time I go to a new area and spend ages squinting at bits of rock that vaguely look like the guidebook illustration I think I must map this properly. Mainly, that's been mapping the

Re: [Talk-GB] New OSM Leaflets now available

2013-10-16 Thread Chris Hill
On 16/10/13 14:45, Andy Allan wrote: Hi all, I've sat down and created an updated version of the OpenStreetMap Promotional Leaflets that many of you will have seen at some point or another. They now have the correct licence and logo, for a start, (the old ones date to 2010) but have also been

Re: [Talk-GB] Relation for group of listed buildings

2013-10-05 Thread Chris Hill
On 05/10/13 21:10, Andy Mabbett wrote: I've just created this relation: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/3247604 for a terrace of listed houses. How could I have done that better? The source quoted points to a copyright page. Do English Heritage supply OSM-friendly data? --

Re: [Talk-GB] bing image alignment

2013-09-13 Thread Chris Hill
Why do you suppose OS Streetview is correct? I find that compared to multiple GPS tracks it is not always well aligned and more recent Bing imagery is often better. OpenStreetmap HADW osmh...@gmail.com wrote: On 10 September 2013 10:09, o...@k3v.eu wrote: This has been discussed on the list

Re: [Talk-GB] Probation offices

2013-08-07 Thread Chris Hill
Many people believe the amenity key is already over used. office=probation or office=probation_service might used. An operator=* tag would be useful as well as a name if there is one. Discussion and documentation is good, but you can tag the offices with something that seems good to you (you

Re: [OSM-talk] from-via-to relation

2013-05-21 Thread Chris Hill
Do you mean a [turn] restriction? http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Relation:restriction Martin Schafran mar...@ampelmeter.com wrote: what's the english expression for a relation from-(via)-to on a junction in context of traffic engineering? I guess it might be turn relation or route or

Re: [OSM-talk] source=Google

2013-05-18 Thread Chris Hill
On 18/05/13 13:31, malenki wrote: There are abot 33.000 objects in OSM which have google in the one way or another in their source tag: http://malenki.ch/d/2013-05-18_142122_scr_source_google.png Just type google in the value-field: http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/source#values Any

Re: [Talk-GB] Mass edits of landuse /natural tags

2013-04-26 Thread Chris Hill
I'd like to respond to Tom's points: On 26/04/13 10:12, Tom Chance wrote: I worry a bit about the view put across by Chris Hill, among others, that we should always assume every tag has been put in place with the greatest of care and so shouldn't be changed; that little-used tags

Re: [Talk-GB] Mass edits of landuse /natural tags

2013-04-25 Thread Chris Hill
On 25/04/13 17:00, John Baker wrote: Wow creating a storm here. I cannot believe we are have so much discussion about grass. I have had some before not about this type... See! Discussion is needed. There are points of view that you don't understand and didn't find out about because you

Re: [Talk-GB] 10 fascinating facts about OSM OSGB

2013-04-18 Thread Chris Hill
On 18/04/13 14:14, Shaun McDonald wrote: On 18 Apr 2013, at 13:01, Dave F. dave...@madasafish.com wrote: On 18/04/2013 12:52, Shaun McDonald wrote: Updates are a lot harder to do as you have to deal with differences When you say differences, do you mean within the tags? Does it need to do

Re: [Talk-GB] 10 fascinating facts about OSM OSGB

2013-04-18 Thread Chris Hill
On 18/04/13 16:40, Oliver Jowett wrote: On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 3:02 PM, Chris Hill o...@raggedred.net mailto:o...@raggedred.net wrote: On 18/04/13 14:14, Shaun McDonald wrote: On 18 Apr 2013, at 13:01, Dave F. dave...@madasafish.com mailto:dave...@madasafish.com wrote

Re: [Talk-GB] 10 fascinating facts about OSM OSGB

2013-04-18 Thread Chris Hill
On 18/04/13 18:12, Oliver Jowett wrote: On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 4:57 PM, Chris Hill o...@raggedred.net mailto:o...@raggedred.net wrote: I followed the guidelines in the wiki [1] That seems to boil down to don't modify naptan: tags except naptan:verified, so hopefully we won't have

Re: [Talk-GB] BBC News - Google Map Maker edit tools extended to cover the UK

2013-04-11 Thread Chris Hill
I've just had an email from Leo, who wrote the piece and it seems he may add to it including a reference to the closed nature of OSM and acknowledging OSM. I also pointed him to RichardF's tweet describing crowd-serfing https://twitter.com/richardf/status/296244090415239168 -- Cheers, Chris

Re: [Talk-GB] BBC News - Google Map Maker edit tools extended to cover the UK

2013-04-11 Thread Chris Hill
Sorry, that should, of course, been the closed nature of Google data. On 11/04/13 12:49, Chris Hill wrote: I've just had an email from Leo, who wrote the piece and it seems he may add to it including a reference to the closed nature of OSM and acknowledging OSM. I also pointed him

Re: [Talk-GB] Railway bridge numbers

2013-04-09 Thread Chris Hill
Some railway bridges near me have already been added to a bridge relation, not by me, that includes the reference. See http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/446579 as an example. I don't know if this a good idea or not, nor if the number is what you have in mind. Cheers, Chris OSM User

[Talk-GB] Apology

2013-02-22 Thread Chris Hill
In a recent email I stated that in exchanges with Mauls I suggested that he could seek help from various sources such as help.osm, a a mailing list, IRC etc. This is not true. Further more I stated that Mauls was rude in his reply. This is also not true. I wish to apologise for this

Re: [Talk-GB] road names along the A50 (and elsewhere)

2013-02-20 Thread Chris Hill
How did the mapper get this info? What licence is it under? FoI for example is copyright and so still needs to be released under a suitable licence. AFAIK local authorities are responsible for naming roads not the DfT. Cheers Chris John Baker rovas...@hotmail.com wrote: I had a response.

Re: [Talk-GB] road names along the A50 (and elsewhere)

2013-02-20 Thread Chris Hill
On 20/02/13 20:15, Kevin Peat wrote: On 20 Feb 2013 19:38, Dudley Ibbett dudleyibb...@hotmail.com mailto:dudleyibb...@hotmail.com wrote: ...I certainly wouldn't defend his attitude... I don't know Mauls from Adam but how would you feel if you had been contributing to the project for

[OSM-talk] STFU

2013-02-02 Thread Chris Hill
Maybe a few of you braver than the brave, loud-mouthed, armchair lawyers should just STFU and give the board a break. When some of you have had as much abuse and hassle in an unpaid job they volunteered for, in their spare time, maybe then you would understand how hard it is to please all of

Re: [OSM-talk] STFU

2013-02-02 Thread Chris Hill
On 02/02/13 22:07, Paweł Paprota wrote: On 02/02/2013 10:23 PM, Chris Hill wrote: Threats to leave the project remind me of the bullshit thrown around during licence-change when hardly anyone actually had the balls to follow through. If people are so unhappy then go, but do so quickly

Re: [OSM-talk] Which renderer for high quality, printed cycle map?

2013-01-31 Thread Chris Hill
On 31/01/13 22:06, Steve Bennett wrote: Hi all, We'd like to produce a high quality bike map, to be printed. I'm looking at the various renderers and wondering if anyone has a recommendation? Requirements - looks good (eg, labels on wiggly labels aren't too wiggly, some ability to avoid

Re: [Talk-GB] Invisible/impassable rights-of-way

2013-01-25 Thread Chris Hill
Report the problem to your local authority who have a legal obligation to sort it out with the landowner. My local councils do sort it out, occasionally they need a reminder, but it is worth the effort. I only add a PRoW if I have surveyed it on the ground, so if it is impassable I would not

Re: [OSM-talk] RFC - OSM contributor mark

2013-01-16 Thread Chris Hill
On 16/01/13 22:33, Christian Quest wrote: The current legal requirement is only about a text because no official icon was existing. If one is chosen, what prevents us to upgrade the requirements to leave the choice between the © OpenStreetMap contributors or the new chosen icon ? To me

Re: [Talk-GB] Postcode data

2013-01-13 Thread Chris Hill
On 13/01/13 15:21, Aidan McGinley wrote: Been toying with some ideas for how to use the ONS Postcode data[1]. One idea that I have been exploring is to check if the value for the centre of the postcode is inside a closed way, and if so then tag that way with the appropriate addr:postcode. I

Re: [Talk-GB] Marking landuse and field boundaries

2013-01-01 Thread Chris Hill
On 01/01/13 11:15, Dudley Ibbett wrote: I must admit I don't map land use if it is farmland. To me if it isn't mapped it is farmland. It would seem a reasonable default. +1 Smothering the countryside with landuse when it's farmland seems well over the top to me. Marking a single field

Re: [OSM-talk] House Numbers

2012-12-30 Thread Chris Hill
On 30/12/12 21:53, Frederik Ramm wrote: It would be great if you could find your name on the list and do a quick sanity check in your head whether this looks right or not. The numbers for me look about right. -- Cheers, Chris user: chillly ___

Re: [OSM-talk] permament access restrictions and routing

2012-12-23 Thread Chris Hill
On 23/12/12 15:41, Stan Berka wrote: Yesterday, I did navigation to my work place here in Warsaw using Osmand o my G2. The route I was given led through Warsaw Old Town. The problem with this is, the Old Town is closed to most vehicles, year long, except for special vehicles (shop supply,

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] tesco store location data

2012-11-05 Thread Chris Hill
On 05/11/12 17:27, David Prime wrote: All, I was looking at the tesco store finder page and noticed their API was very simple: a lat/lon and a radius in miles to specify a search circle for the results. I set the radius to 1000 miles and put the centre in London and got all the Tesco

Re: [Talk-GB] Office of National Statistics data

2012-11-05 Thread Chris Hill
On 05/11/12 14:19, Robert Whittaker (OSM lists) wrote: Oops. I hadn't spotted that. It looks like ONS is getting just as confused as I am with the different licenses. It seems that the license ONS is providing the data under is fine for OSM then. :-) (I'd still suspect that there is some

Re: [Talk-GB] FW: Office of National Statistics data

2012-10-31 Thread Chris Hill
On 31/10/12 13:58, Kev js1982 wrote: Does this set include BT (northern Ireland) , postcodes like nspd open did? If so that is one way it's better than code point open I have just finished processing the BT codes, so Northern Irish post codes are now available too. I haven't been able to

Re: [Talk-GB] FW: Office of National Statistics data

2012-10-31 Thread Chris Hill
On 31/10/12 18:37, Richard Bullock wrote: On 31/10/12 13:58, Kev js1982 wrote: Does this set include BT (northern Ireland) , postcodes like nspd open did? If so that is one way it's better than code point open I have just finished processing the BT codes, so Northern Irish post codes are

Re: [Talk-GB] Odd edits around the A460 in the W Midlands

2012-10-16 Thread Chris Hill
On 16/10/12 13:25, davespod wrote: Other recent dubious edits by the same person include this one: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/179146263 Evidently a joke with reference to:

Re: [Talk-GB] Odd edits around the A460 in the W Midlands

2012-10-16 Thread Chris Hill
Sorry, youre right. Memory let me down :-( SomeoneElse li...@mail.atownsend.org.uk wrote: Chris Hill wrote: We have had problematic edits from that young man before. He seems to have changed his OSM ID (from TomPopple) For the avoidance of confusion, and not blocking the wrong user

Re: [Talk-GB] Boundaries ...

2012-09-23 Thread Chris Hill
Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk wrote: OK I'm buried deep into this and getting totally lost ... I'm using http://layers.openstreetmap.fr/ to check what needs doing We have 'admin?' levels 5=Regions ... so West Midlands 6=Counties ... But Manchester and some Welsh ones are missing? 7=Not used

Re: [Talk-GB] Footway to Sidewalk?

2012-08-21 Thread Chris Hill
John Sturdy jcg.stu...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 1:30 PM, Philip Barnes p...@trigpoint.me.uk wrote: Have just spotted this changeset, which has globally changed footway tags to sidewalk, the area covers the UK. Any thoughts, to me sidewalk is one of those American words that

Re: [OSM-talk] Extended tagging schema - my thoughts

2012-08-10 Thread Chris Hill
On 10/08/12 12:08, Peter Wendorff wrote: Am 10.08.2012 12:29, schrieb Andrew: Peter Wendorff wendorff at uni-paderborn.de writes: one open question would be how to deal with units in this combination: mph, m/h, km/h, and the usual errors mp/h, kmh, and so on, but I think even that should be

Re: [Talk-GB] Building Numbers

2012-07-25 Thread Chris Hill
On 25/07/12 22:16, Chris Baines wrote: I have been playing around with OSM on my university's campus [1], I have most of the buildings and their names on OSM, but not the numbers. My university are quite good with data, you can see the building numbers (they are not really numbers, but

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] ASTER or no ASTER?

2012-07-06 Thread Chris Hill
On 06/07/12 14:30, Frederik Ramm wrote: Hi, I'm slowly getting a headache from trying to find out wheter the use of ASTER data (for hillshading) in the creation of CC-BY-SA licensed map tiles is permissible or not. There are people who say that ASTER is only free for science and

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] MoU between OSM and NLSF

2012-07-04 Thread Chris Hill
about spirit of the document. I'm open to change title of the document, if you have good one. Rgs, Pekka Pekka Sarkola – pekka.sark...@gispo.fi – www.gispo.fi -Original Message- From: Chris Hill [mailto:o...@raggedred.net] Sent: 3. heinäkuuta 2012 20:51 To: pekka.sark...@gispo.fi

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] MoU between OSM and NLSF

2012-07-03 Thread Chris Hill
On 03/07/12 17:02, Pekka Sarkola wrote: Dear Friends, I have prepared with National Land Survey of Finland Memorandum of Understanding (MoU) about usage of their datasets by OpenStreetMap activists. Hare is current draft text for everybody to comment: Memorandum of Understanding This

Re: [Talk-GB] railway:historic = rail tags

2012-07-02 Thread Chris Hill
Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk wrote: We still NEED some usable mechanism to maintain historic information. On the whole the map is just growing, so just a valid start date is all that is needed. But increasingly we have modern history where roads are remodelled, and moving the history of those

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Response from Hampshire County Council

2012-06-12 Thread Chris Hill
Robert Whittaker (OSM) robert.whittaker+...@gmail.com wrote: On 11 June 2012 18:12, Chris Hill o...@raggedred.net wrote: That is not true. LWG did not get 'specific agreement' from OS. We are simply using OS OpenData in compliance with the OS OpenData licence and OS confirmed: The Ordnance

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Response from Hampshire County Council

2012-06-11 Thread Chris Hill
On 11/06/12 17:16, David Groom wrote: - Original Message - From: Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com To: Licensing and other legal discussions. legal-talk@openstreetmap.org Sent: Monday, June 11, 2012 1:38 PM Subject: Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Response from Hampshire County Council

Re: [Talk-GB] OpenHants - doing something with the Hants CC data in the meantime

2012-06-09 Thread Chris Hill
On 09/06/12 00:02, Rob Nickerson wrote: Fantastic use of the data Nick! Is there any guides for how to do something similar? I was trying to visualise the Natural England data using Leaflet but failed miserably as the shapefile is too big. Your website appears to load just the bit needed.

Re: [Talk-GB] Follow up : Hampshire Rights of Way Data released under OS OpenData licence

2012-06-08 Thread Chris Hill
On 08/06/12 17:30, Robert Whittaker (OSM) wrote: And I don't think we can assume that the special permission we have to use OS OpenData would cover this additional data [...] It has been repeated many times on these lists, by a very small number of people, that we have 'special permission'

Re: [OSM-talk] TomTom is thumping us

2012-05-29 Thread Chris Hill
On 29/05/12 15:29, Steve Bennett wrote: We'd be vulnerable to exactly the same kind of attack, right? Do we have any mechanisms to detect or prevent it? A community! Steve On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 12:21 AM, Toby Murraytoby.mur...@gmail.com wrote: Hmm I seem to recall a stnav company

Re: [Talk-GB] Admin Boundaries and OS OpenData BoundaryLine

2012-05-29 Thread Chris Hill
On 29/05/12 16:00, Tom Chance wrote: Most boundaries follow existing features like roads, rivers, etc. Not always by any means. Many urban boundaries follow roads, but many rural ones run alongside roads and have little jinks in them where they cross to the other side of the road. This allows

Re: [Talk-GB] Admin Boundaries and OS OpenData BoundaryLine

2012-05-29 Thread Chris Hill
On 29/05/12 18:10, Tom Chance wrote: On 29 May 2012 17:19, Chris Hill o...@raggedred.net wrote: They need to be manually entered as relations sharing nodes with those features

Re: [Talk-GB] Admin Boundaries and OS OpenData BoundaryLine

2012-05-29 Thread Chris Hill
On 29/05/12 20:16, Tom Chance wrote: On 29 May 2012 18:52, Chris Hill o...@raggedred.net wrote: My question is: how do you know the boundary aligns with an existing object? Aha! A very good point. I suppose

Re: [Talk-GB] Bulk railway station changes

2012-05-16 Thread Chris Hill
On 16/05/12 04:35, AJ Ashton wrote: Hi Richard everyone, This started off simply as an effort to improve our display London Underground stations using existing OSM data, but was scope-creeped into much more and apparently we messed up. We've found that the lack of familiar London Underground

Re: [Talk-GB] UK Rights of Way - WikiProject

2012-05-07 Thread Chris Hill
On 07/05/12 10:34, Jonathan Harley wrote: On 06/05/12 17:22, Andrew M. Bishop wrote: Andy Streetm...@andystreet.me.uk writes: On Fri, 2012-05-04 at 14:32 +0100, Andrew Chadwick wrote: I'd agree that generic consumers will struggle with highway=path, designation=* but that is a wider OSM

Re: [Talk-GB] Designation: should we begin using prefixes

2012-05-02 Thread Chris Hill
On 02/05/12 16:29, Andrew Chadwick wrote: designation=* has been evolving recently, and has added some open land classifications: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:designation#UK_Protected_Areas With the proliferation of these designation codes, would it make sense to begin coming up with

Re: [Talk-GB] Postcode update

2012-04-10 Thread Chris Hill
Ed Loach e...@loach.me.uk wrote: Chris wrote: I've just updated the postcode layer using the latest Codepoint Open data. You can see how to use them in editors and info about the postcode finder that uses the data here: http://codepoint.raggedred.net While I've used the layer often in the

[Talk-GB] Postcode update

2012-04-09 Thread Chris Hill
I've just updated the postcode layer using the latest Codepoint Open data. You can see how to use them in editors and info about the postcode finder that uses the data here: http://codepoint.raggedred.net -- Cheers, Chris user: chillly ___ Talk-GB

Re: [Talk-GB] OS OpenData coastlines

2012-04-04 Thread Chris Hill
I imported some OS OpenData coastline stuff not long after they came out. I wrote up a wiki page about using the OS OpenData vector stuff here: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Using_OS_Shapefiles . I expect there are better ways than this now. I know that tracing Bing can be better in some

Re: [Talk-GB] Remapping update

2012-03-23 Thread Chris Hill
On 23/03/12 13:14, Andy Allan wrote: On 23 March 2012 12:58, Nick Whiteleggnick.whitel...@solent.ac.uk wrote: Incidentally, is just knowing the footpaths evidence enough to tag with odbl=clean? Or is there the risk that the footpath was created with iffy sources? Use odbl=clean to clear

Re: [OSM-talk] iPhoto for iOS Not Using Google Maps

2012-03-08 Thread Chris Hill
Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net wrote: Iván Sánchez Ortega wrote: Looks like they're using a old (pre-2011) planet dump for the data. Yep, we've now pinned it down to 1st-7th April 2010. cheers Richard _ talk mailing list

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] What happens on April 1?

2012-03-07 Thread Chris Hill
On 07/03/12 15:45, andrzej zaborowski wrote: I was wondering why people think that. Even trying to put myself in place of someone who thinks the license change is the best thing since sliced bread I still can't see the reasons for remapping. First of all it costs more work than adding data

Re: [OSM-talk] FourSquare and OSM

2012-03-02 Thread Chris Hill
On 02/03/12 22:07, Frans Thamura wrote: i wish OSM can provide like what GMAP API can :0 rather using this model. API wrapper to TILE will be interesting I think you are confusing what Google call their API with what OSM call our API. They are not the same thing. What Google call their API

Re: [Talk-GB] Licence change - one month to go

2012-03-02 Thread Chris Hill
On 02/03/12 14:35, Richard Fairhurst wrote: If you have some free time over the next few weeks, do go and remap. P2 and JOSM both have licence status displays. Bing and OS StreetView are immensely useful resources (my P2 prefs have them assigned to function keys F1 and F2 for easy reference).

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapping disused railway lines

2012-02-26 Thread Chris Hill
If there are no rails perhaps there is a track (highway track) or even an informal path (highway path) running along the old trackbed. If there is you could add that, with bridge tags. I am not advocating tagging for the renderer, only tag what really is there. Cheers, Chris User chillly Blog

Re: [OSM-talk] Finding untagged dead-ends

2012-02-15 Thread Chris Hill
On 15/02/12 09:43, Norbert Wenzel wrote: On 15.02.2012 06:41, Nathan Edgars II wrote: Is there a way (in JOSM or otherwise) to find all dead-ends (nodes contained in only one highway way) without highway=turning_circle or noexit=yes in an area? Shouldn't keepright[0] report these as errors? I

Re: [OSM-talk] Wind turbines no longer rendered on mapnik layer

2012-02-15 Thread Chris Hill
On 15/02/12 16:06, Morten Kjeldgaard wrote: On 15/02/2012, at 10.46, Frederik Ramm wrote: What's even more problematic is if people try to automatically change a large number of objects away from what they consider deprecated to some new tagging scheme. This requires a much broader approval

Re: [OSM-talk] Contact And Remap Campaign

2012-02-09 Thread Chris Hill
On 07/02/12 07:36, Graham Jones wrote: On 7 February 2012 05:34, Simone Cortesi sim...@cortesi.com mailto:sim...@cortesi.com wrote: Our default action should be: if somebody doesn't answer, then relicence I completely agree - we should assume that no response is equivalent to

Re: [Talk-GB] Blue Plaques and others

2012-01-29 Thread Chris Hill
Robert Norris rw_nor...@hotmail.com wrote: Seeing as it's Charles Dicken's 200th Birthday soon, http://www.charlesdickensbirthplace.co.uk/charles-dickens/charles-dickens-200 I thought I should get around to mapping the Blue and other Coloured Plaques in my area of Portsmouth, especially as

Re: [Talk-GB] The state of Bristol in OSM

2012-01-13 Thread Chris Hill
On 13/01/12 16:36, Tom Chance wrote: 2012/1/13 Tim François sk1pp...@yahoo.co.uk mailto:sk1pp...@yahoo.co.uk Oh bummer - didn't mean to send to Talk-GB, just the local Bristol mappers! Oh well, it's out there now... I think it's good to get everyone thinking about this for their

Re: [OSM-talk] Dealing with the tainted data

2012-01-10 Thread Chris Hill
On 10/01/12 18:30, john whelan wrote: May I suggest that the clean way to deal with the data in OSM is to basically remap the roads using Bing and the JOSM or whatever plugin so the data is labelled as coming from Bing. Bing is available and it would give a much more consistent and accurate

Re: [Talk-GB] Fwd: HS2 route

2012-01-10 Thread Chris Hill
On 10/01/12 18:19, Peter Miller wrote: Regarding OS copyright, the OS do not claim derived copyright any more for 3rd party content that is displayed on an OS map just so long as they do not present that sort of feature on their mapping. As such any copyright infringement would be with the

[Talk-GB] Codepoint tiles

2011-12-16 Thread Chris Hill
I have used the latest OS OpenData Codepoint data, released in November, to update the tiles overlay showing GB postcodes. You can see more at http://codepoint.raggedred.net/ -- Cheers, Chris user: chillly ___ Talk-GB mailing list

Re: [Talk-GB] OS VectorMap water feature import

2011-12-13 Thread Chris Hill
On 13/12/11 11:05, Ed Avis wrote: In some parts of the country there are waterways traced from out-of-copyright OS maps or from Street View tiles. Getting the shapes from OS VectorMap will certainly be an improvement on that. In my opinion it will also be an improvement compared to not having

Re: [Talk-GB] OS VectorMap water feature import

2011-12-11 Thread Chris Hill
On 11/12/11 11:26, Borbus wrote: First of all, when I say import I mean a manual import: reprojection of OS shapefiles, conversion to OSM data and careful processing in JOSM before uploading. I'd really like to get all the water features from OS into OSM. It's very useful data and also makes

Re: [Talk-GB] Naptan Imports

2011-11-24 Thread Chris Hill
Andy Allan gravityst...@gmail.com wrote: Also, in my opinion, unmarked bus stops are a daft concept to begin with, seemingly dreamed up to make life harder than it needs to be! +1 Why would you have a stop without a sign as a deliberate strategy? It completely defies the idea of bus stops

Re: [Talk-GB] Naptan Imports

2011-11-24 Thread Chris Hill
opposite the terminus (now signed on the route I know best as its no longer a terminus for most services!). On Nov 24, 2011 9:22 AM, Chris Hill o...@raggedred.net mailto:o...@raggedred.net wrote: Andy Allan gravityst...@gmail.com mailto:gravityst...@gmail.com wrote: Also, in my

Re: [Talk-GB] Naptan Imports

2011-11-23 Thread Chris Hill
On 22/11/11 22:26, Graham Jones wrote: Hi, I just found a node tagged with lots of things to do with naptan. It looks like it should be a bus stop, but there is no highway=bus_stop tag on it. (http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/471495304). I just wonder what to do with it - can either

Re: [OSM-talk] Displaying videos from around the world on OSM?

2011-10-12 Thread Chris Hill
On 12/10/11 13:33, Jonathan Gray wrote: Hi all, We're thinking of having a big census of open government data initiatives from around the world next week [1], to coincide with Open Government Data Camp 2011 in Warsaw [2]. This would involve having a basic mechanism to add title, URL, brief

Re: [OSM-talk] International Boundaries from Department of State

2011-09-29 Thread Chris Hill
The terms of use say only for non-commercial use, which is not acceptable for use in OSM Arun Ganesh arun.plane...@gmail.com wrote: Regarding the administrative boundaries, why is there no mention of the GADM dataset[1] as a potential data source? Its the most accurate and detailed public

[Talk-GB] Trans Pennine Trail

2011-09-22 Thread Chris Hill
I want to map part of the Trans Pennine Trail (TPT) [1]. Much of the ways already exist in OSM because it uses NCN routes much of the way. South of Manchester there is the NCN 62 which has a name=Trans Pennine Trail [2]. This may be part of the TPT, but is not the whole route at all. I would

Re: [OSM-talk] Roundabouts and routing

2011-09-08 Thread Chris Hill
On 08/09/11 19:48, Thomas Davie wrote: Hi, Today I experimented with using OSM maps on my Garmin sat-nav. The one thing that I noticed was that roundabouts do not work well. The problem seems to be the slip roads entering the roundabout. The sat-nav recognises them as a roundabout in

Re: [Talk-GB] To delete or not to delete, that is the question...

2011-08-20 Thread Chris Hill
their licence agreement or copyright. This was discussed in an OS blog about the Public Sector Mapping Agreement. I hope this applies to public rights of way, but I'm not sure. I'll make some enquiries. Cheers, Chris Hill Nick Whitelegg nick.whitel...@solent.ac.uk wrote: To: Nick Whitelegg

Re: [Talk-GB] Forestry Commission Data

2011-07-26 Thread Chris Hill
On 26/07/11 11:59, Curon Davies wrote: Back in January there was a discussion regarding Forestry Commission data, I've had a quick look and couldn't see anything since. It looks like the data was released last month: http://www.forestry.gov.uk/datadownload The license looks a bit problematic at

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM Emitter

2011-07-05 Thread Chris Hill
On 05/07/11 17:03, Oleg wrote: Hi All Seems like this is a good place to tell about a new way to add places to the map. There is a lot of people who use twitter actively with their mobile phones, which has a gps on board. Now you can use location-based tweets to add POIs to the map :) The

Re: [OSM-talk] Flash cookies

2011-06-22 Thread Chris Hill
On 22/06/11 11:19, Richard Fairhurst wrote: ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen wrote: Since recently was decided that in NL cookies are subject to explicit permission of the users, I'd think that Openstreetmap provides information on what information and settings are actually used by

Re: [OSM-talk] Pitiful proceedings - as usual

2011-06-20 Thread Chris Hill
On 20/06/11 16:03, TimSC wrote: On 20/06/11 15:53, Richard Fairhurst wrote: NopMap wrote: Yeah, sure, I'll just burn some incense, look deep into my crystal ball and guess what everybody has been doing. Why do you need to do that? Why don't you e-mail LWG and say: I think you've been having

Re: [OSM-talk] Pitiful proceedings - as usual

2011-06-20 Thread Chris Hill
On 20/06/11 17:47, TimSC wrote: On 20/06/11 16:39, Chris Hill wrote: Maybe part of the reason that these volunteers are working too hard is because some people demand individual attention. Imagine if everyone made their own demands of the LWG ... Are you seriously saying that a handful

Re: [OSM-talk] transparent road layer

2011-06-13 Thread Chris Hill
On 13/06/11 18:19, Rob Truxler wrote: Hi Everyone Does anyone know a map tile web service that produces transparent tiles with just roads and their labels and icons on them? I'm hoping to use this layer with a background tileset that I already have. I'm open to using anything that is not in

Re: [Talk-GB] Code point updates

2011-06-09 Thread Chris Hill
Andy -Original Message- From: Chris Hill [mailto:o...@raggedred.net] Sent: 08 June 2011 22:01 To: Talk GB Subject: [Talk-GB] Code point updates I have finished loading the latest OS CodePoint to create the post code overlays for England, Scotland and Wales. More info here: http

Re: [Talk-GB] OSM Analysis New Data and bot

2011-06-09 Thread Chris Hill
Since it looks likely that a bot is going to be run to add OS Locator names to unnamed British roads - something I strongly disagree with, but I can't stop - I demand that it is tagged with a common-sense, clear tag to show where this has happened. This should not be the bonkers cock-up that

[Talk-GB] Code point updates

2011-06-08 Thread Chris Hill
I have finished loading the latest OS CodePoint to create the post code overlays for England, Scotland and Wales. More info here: http://codepoint.raggedred.net/ -- Cheers, Chris user: chillly ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Talk-GB] OSM Analysis New Data and bot

2011-06-08 Thread Chris Hill
On 08/06/11 21:20, Brian Prangle wrote: I'm firmly of the opinion that this is not work for a bot unless a tag is added such as verified=no so we humans can search for what hasn't been surveyed. Wholly agree. A bot will just replicate the OS errors and then we'll never find them! Also

Re: [Talk-GB] OS Vector Map District

2011-06-01 Thread Chris Hill
On 01/06/11 21:26, David Fitzhugh wrote: While browsing in the area of Fakenham, Norfolk, UK, I came across some entries with the source = OS Vector Map District ( look at the woodland). As I had not heard of this before I tried to look it up on the web and could not make sense of the OS

Re: [Talk-GB] Maxspeed tagging for the UK

2011-04-14 Thread Chris Hill
On 14/04/11 11:42, Richard Fairhurst wrote: Peter Miller wrote:  So the proposal is now: maxspeed:type=GB:national_single|GB:national_dual|GB:motorway|GB:restricted I may be missing the point on all of this, but: Why are we doing this? In OSM we optimise for the mapper, not the data

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