Re: [OSM-talk] offering adapted databases

2011-07-10 Thread David Groom
- Original Message - From: Anthony o...@inbox.org To: OSM Fork osm-f...@googlegroups.com; openstreetmap talk@openstreetmap.org Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 9:24 PM Subject: [OSM-talk] offering adapted databases This is an except from a message I sent to Steve. But hopefully

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] license change effect on un-tagged nodes

2011-07-05 Thread David Groom
- Original Message - From: Jaakko Helleranta.com jaa...@helleranta.com To: Licensing and other legal discussions. legal-talk@openstreetmap.org Sent: Monday, July 04, 2011 8:42 PM Subject: Re: [OSM-legal-talk] license change effect on un-tagged nodes On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 12:53 PM,

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] license change effect on un-tagged nodes

2011-07-05 Thread David Groom
: jhelleranta -Original Message- From: David Groom revi...@pacific-rim.net Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2011 11:37:51 To: Licensing and other legal discussions.legal-t...@openstreetmap.org Reply-To: Licensing and other legal discussions. legal-t...@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [OSM-legal-talk] license

Re: [Talk-GB] OS OpenData and ODbL OK

2011-07-05 Thread David Groom
- Original Message - From: Ed Avis e...@waniasset.com To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 11:19 AM Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] OS OpenData and ODbL OK Michael Collinson mike@... writes: Ordnance Survey has explicitly considered any licensing conflict between

Re: [Talk-GB] OS OpenData and ODbL OK

2011-07-04 Thread David Groom
- Original Message - From: Michael Collinson m...@ayeltd.biz To: OSM talk-gb talk-gb@openstreetmap.org Sent: Monday, July 04, 2011 1:53 PM Subject: [Talk-GB] OS OpenData and ODbL OK Good news. I hope that helps a number of UK contributors who have been uncertain as to whether

[OSM-legal-talk] ODbl Community guideslines ( WAS Exception in OpenDataLicense/Community Guidelines for temporary file)

2011-07-01 Thread David Groom
- Original Message - From: Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net To: legal-talk@openstreetmap.org Sent: Friday, July 01, 2011 10:19 AM Subject: Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Exception in OpenDataLicense/Community Guidelines for temporary file David Groom wrote: We also have be mindful

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Exception in Open DataLicense/Community Guidelines for temporary file

2011-07-01 Thread David Groom
11:55, David Groom wrote: - Original Message - From: Richard Fairhurst Jonathan Harley wrote: Really I'm at a loss to see the point of the share-alike clause (4.4). I can't think of a use-case for OSM where processing the database doesn't reduce the amount of information. The canonical

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Exception in Open DataLicense/Community Guidelines for temporary file

2011-06-30 Thread David Groom
- Original Message - From: Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net To: legal-talk@openstreetmap.org Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 10:53 AM Subject: Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Exception in Open DataLicense/Community Guidelines for temporary file Jonathan Harley wrote: Really I'm at a

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Exception in Open Data License/Community Guidelines for temporary file

2011-06-22 Thread David Groom
- Original Message - From: ThomasB toba0...@yahoo.de To: legal-talk@openstreetmap.org Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2011 2:18 PM Subject: [OSM-legal-talk] Exception in Open Data License/Community Guidelines for temporary file Dear Legal-list, My question applies to all kind of

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [OSM-talk] License/CT issues: Let's not punish the world's disadvantaged, pls.

2011-06-22 Thread David Groom
- Original Message - From: John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com To: Licensing and other legal discussions. legal-talk@openstreetmap.org Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2011 5:40 PM Subject: Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [OSM-talk] License/CT issues: Let's not punish the world's disadvantaged, pls.

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [OSM-talk] License/CT issues: Let's not punish the world's disadvantaged, pls.

2011-06-22 Thread David Groom
- Original Message - From: Jaakko Helleranta.com jaa...@helleranta.com To: John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com Cc: Licensing and other legal discussions. legal-talk@openstreetmap.org Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2011 6:37 PM Subject: Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [OSM-talk] License/CT issues:

[OSM-legal-talk] When goes a community guideline change rather than explain a licence

2011-06-22 Thread David Groom
When goes a community guideline change rather than explain a licence? There are a number of community guideline pages on the wiki. Some of these pages do clearly seem simply to explain how the ODbL should be interpreted, such as We can clearly define things that are USUALLY Produced Works:

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Exception in Open Data License/Community Guidelines for temporary file

2011-06-22 Thread David Groom
- Original Message - From: ThomasB toba0...@yahoo.de To: legal-t...@openstreetmap.org Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2011 3:03 PM Subject: Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Exception in Open Data License/Community Guidelines for temporary file David Groom wrote: As far as I can see, ignoring

Re: [OSM-talk] Pitiful proceedings - as usual

2011-06-20 Thread David Groom
- Original Message - From: NopMap ekkeh...@gmx.de To: talk@openstreetmap.org Sent: Monday, June 20, 2011 8:09 AM Subject: [OSM-talk] Pitiful proceedings - as usual Hi! First of all: I am in favour of the licence change itself, I have agreed a long time ago and I was actually

[OSM-legal-talk] section 4.6 of ODbL was [talk-au] Statement from nearmap.com regarding submission of derived works from PhotoMaps to OpenStreetMap

2011-06-19 Thread David Groom
- Original Message - From: John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com To: Licensing and other legal discussions. legal-talk@openstreetmap.org Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2011 11:33 AM Subject: Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [talk-au] Statement from nearmap.com regarding submission of derived works from

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] section 4.6 of ODbL was [talk-au] Statement from nearmap.com regarding submission of derived works from PhotoMaps to OpenStreetMap

2011-06-19 Thread David Groom
of derived works from PhotoMaps to OpenStreetMap Hi, David Groom wrote: From reading section 4.6 of ODbL[1] my understanding is no. There is no mention of it only applying if you change the data, the requirement seems to hold whenever You Publicly Use a Derivative Database or a Produced

[OSM-legal-talk] application of ODBL to an extarct of OSM obtained via jxapi

2011-06-17 Thread David Groom
Word in quotes below relate to the meanings given them by ODbL Assume I use jxapi to download an extract of the main OSM database . Is the downloaded extract a Derivative Database, or since the download was provided by OSM does the downloaded data qualify as simply a Database? Regards

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] application of ODBL to an extarct of OSM obtained via jxapi

2011-06-17 Thread David Groom
:09 PM, David Groom revi...@pacific-rim.net wrote: Word in quotes below relate to the meanings given them by ODbL Assume I use jxapi to download an extract of the main OSM database . Is the downloaded extract a Derivative Database, or since the download was provided by OSM does the downloaded data

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] data derived from UK Ordnace Survey

2011-06-16 Thread David Groom
- Original Message - From: Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net To: legal-talk@openstreetmap.org Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2011 9:58 AM Subject: Re: [OSM-legal-talk] data derived from UK Ordnace Survey (continuing from previous message, d'oh) In the event of a future

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] data derived from UK Ordnace Survey

2011-06-16 Thread David Groom
- Original Message - From: Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net To: legal-t...@openstreetmap.org Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2011 2:25 PM Subject: Re: [OSM-legal-talk] data derived from UK Ordnace Survey David Groom wrote: However your argument above completely fails to refer

Re: [Talk-GB] OS OpenData and accepting the new contributor terms

2011-06-16 Thread David Groom
Michael Thank you for such a full explanation - Original Message - From: Michael Collinson m...@ayeltd.biz To: talk-gb talk-gb@openstreetmap.org Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2011 5:50 PM Subject: [Talk-GB] OS OpenData and accepting the new contributor terms [snipped] regretfully

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [talk-au] Statement from nearmap.com regarding submission of derived works from PhotoMaps to OpenStreetMap

2011-06-15 Thread David Groom
- Original Message - From: Ben Last ben.l...@nearmap.com To: OpenStreetMap Learned Discussions t...@openstreetmap.org; OSM Australian Talk List talk...@openstreetmap.org; Licensing and other legal discussions. legal-talk@openstreetmap.org Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2011 2:30 AM Subject:

[OSM-legal-talk] data derived from UK Ordnace Survey

2011-06-15 Thread David Groom
As a slightly supplementary question of what to do with data from those users who have not agreed to the CT's can I make the following suggestion. Given that we obviously want to move forward with a clean database untainted by any data which might be incompatible with future licences, AND

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [talk-au] Statement from nearmap.com regarding submission of derived works from PhotoMaps to OpenStreetMap

2011-06-15 Thread David Groom
- Original Message - From: Ben Last ben.l...@nearmap.com To: David Groom revi...@pacific-rim.net; OSM Australian Talk List talk...@openstreetmap.org; Licensing and other legal discussions. legal-talk@openstreetmap.org Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2011 12:48 AM Subject: Re: [talk-au

Re: [OSM-talk] Announce: Beginning of Phase 4 of license change process

2011-06-15 Thread David Groom
- Original Message - From: Andy Street m...@andystreet.me.uk To: talk@openstreetmap.org Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2011 11:44 AM Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Announce: Beginning of Phase 4 of license change process On Tue, 2011-06-14 at 22:33 +0200, Michael Collinson wrote: As per

Re: [OSM-talk] Announce: Beginning of Phase 4 of license change process

2011-06-15 Thread David Groom
- Original Message - From: David Murn da...@incanberra.com.au To: Josh Doe j...@joshdoe.com Cc: talk@openstreetmap.org; Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2011 11:23 PM Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Announce: Beginning of Phase 4 of license change process

Re: [OSM-talk] Can I say yes to the ODbL if I can't account for 100%of my data?

2011-06-15 Thread David Groom
- Original Message - From: Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason ava...@gmail.com To: OpenStreetMap blather talk@openstreetmap.org Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2011 12:06 AM Subject: [OSM-talk] Can I say yes to the ODbL if I can't account for 100%of my data? Back in 2006 I wrote the following when

Re: [talk-au] Statement from nearmap.com regarding submission of derived works from PhotoMaps to OpenStreetMap

2011-06-15 Thread David Groom
- Original Message - From: Ben Last ben.l...@nearmap.com To: OpenStreetMap Learned Discussions t...@openstreetmap.org; OSM Australian Talk List talk-au@openstreetmap.org; Licensing and other legal discussions. legal-t...@openstreetmap.org Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2011 2:30 AM Subject:

Re: [talk-au] Statement from nearmap.com regarding submission of derived works from PhotoMaps to OpenStreetMap

2011-06-15 Thread David Groom
- Original Message - From: Ben Last ben.l...@nearmap.com To: David Groom revi...@pacific-rim.net; OSM Australian Talk List talk-au@openstreetmap.org; Licensing and other legal discussions. legal-t...@openstreetmap.org Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2011 12:48 AM Subject: Re: [talk-au

Re: [talk-au] Statement from nearmap.com regarding submission ofderived works from PhotoMaps to OpenStreetMap

2011-06-15 Thread David Groom
- Original Message - From: David Groom revi...@pacific-rim.net To: OSM Australian Talk List talk-au@openstreetmap.org; Licensing and other legal discussions. legal-t...@openstreetmap.org Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2011 1:16 AM Subject: Re: [talk-au] Statement from nearmap.com regarding

Re: [OSM-talk] tile downloads

2011-06-09 Thread David Groom
- Original Message - From: Geza Gyuk gg...@adlerplanetarium.org To: talk@openstreetmap.org Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2011 8:10 PM Subject: [OSM-talk] tile downloads Hi, I'm a little unclear if this is the method I should be using to ask about acceptable use of the

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] CTs are not full copyright assignment

2011-06-08 Thread David Groom
- Original Message - From: Andreas Perstinger andreas.perstin...@gmx.net To: legal-t...@openstreetmap.org Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 1:35 PM Subject: Re: [OSM-legal-talk] CTs are not full copyright assignment On 2011-06-08 03:25, David Groom wrote: Why do you and some others

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] CTs are not full copyright assignment

2011-06-07 Thread David Groom
- Original Message - From: Andreas Perstinger andreas.perstin...@gmx.net To: legal-talk@openstreetmap.org Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2011 10:33 AM Subject: Re: [OSM-legal-talk] CTs are not full copyright assignment On 2011-06-07 10:35, Ed Avis wrote: Frederik Rammfrederik@...

Re: [Talk-GB] OS Vector Map District

2011-06-02 Thread David Groom
- Original Message - From: David Fitzhugh davidttfitzh...@yahoo.co.uk To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 9:26 PM Subject: [Talk-GB] OS Vector Map District While browsing in the area of Fakenham, Norfolk, UK, I came across some entries with the source = OS

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Import from Ushahidi Libya Instance

2011-05-27 Thread David Groom
Mikel I cant see anything in the Contributor Terms which state that if you are only adding non-substantial and non-systematic data then it is OK to import non-compatible data. So one question is, will the import be carried out through an account which has agreed to the CT's, in which case

Re: [talk-au] How many NearMap users do you think have accepted the new CTs and ODbL?

2011-04-26 Thread David Groom
- Original Message - From: Richard Weait rich...@weait.com To: OSM Australian Talk List talk-au@openstreetmap.org Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 3:50 PM Subject: Re: [talk-au] How many NearMap users do you think have accepted the new CTs and ODbL? On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 9:24 AM,

[OSM-talk] the 70% , was Re: License graph

2011-04-19 Thread David Groom
- Original Message - From: Thomas Davie tom.da...@gmail.com To: David Murn da...@incanberra.com.au Cc: talk@openstreetmap.org Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 8:09 AM Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] License graph On 19 Apr 2011, at 01:15, David Murn wrote: On Mon, 2011-04-18 at 11:53 -0700,

[OSM-talk] the 70%, was License graph

2011-04-19 Thread David Groom
- Original Message - From: Thomas Davie tom.da...@gmail.com To: David Murn da...@incanberra.com.au Cc: talk@openstreetmap.org Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 8:09 AM Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] License graph On 19 Apr 2011, at 01:15, David Murn wrote: On Mon, 2011-04-18 at 11:53 -0700,

Re: [OSM-talk] the 70% , was Re: License graph

2011-04-19 Thread David Groom
- Original Message - From: Thomas Davie tom.da...@gmail.com To: David Groom revi...@pacific-rim.net Cc: talk@openstreetmap.org Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 10:09 AM Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] the 70% , was Re: License graph On 19 Apr 2011, at 09:41, David Groom wrote

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap License Change Phase 3 begins Sunday

2011-04-15 Thread David Groom
- Original Message - From: Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org To: David Murn da...@incanberra.com.au Cc: Talk Openstreetmap talk@openstreetmap.org Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 12:08 AM Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap License Change Phase 3 begins Sunday Hi, David Murn wrote:

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap License Change Phase 3 begins Sunday

2011-04-15 Thread David Groom
- Original Message - From: Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org To: talk@openstreetmap.org Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 12:11 PM Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap License Change Phase 3 begins Sunday Hi, On 04/15/2011 10:13 AM, David Groom wrote: There's also a third kind

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Questions about CTs 1.2.4

2011-04-14 Thread David Groom
- Original Message - From: Robert Whittaker (OSM) robert.whittaker+...@gmail.com To: Licensing and other legal discussions. legal-talk@openstreetmap.org Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2011 8:54 AM Subject: Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Questions about CTs 1.2.4 On 13 April 2011 23:06, Francis

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap License Change Phase 3 begins Sunday

2011-04-14 Thread David Groom
- Original Message - From: andrzej zaborowski balr...@gmail.com To: john whelan jwhelan0...@gmail.com Cc: OpenStreetMap talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2011 7:34 PM Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap License Change Phase 3 begins Sunday On 14

Re: [talk-au] Fwd: [OSM-dev] To OSM editor authors

2011-04-11 Thread David Groom
- Original Message - From: John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com To: Nick Hocking nick.hock...@gmail.com Cc: talk-au@openstreetmap.org Sent: Monday, April 11, 2011 4:59 AM Subject: Re: [talk-au] Fwd: [OSM-dev] To OSM editor authors On 11 April 2011 13:45, Nick Hocking

Re: [OSM-talk] the coastline

2011-03-22 Thread David Groom
- Original Message - From: Elizabeth Dodd ed...@billiau.net To: talk@openstreetmap.org Sent: Monday, March 21, 2011 10:19 PM Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] the coastline On Mon, 21 Mar 2011 21:59:20 - Andy Robinson ajrli...@gmail.com wrote: I'd place the coastline at the low water

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Someone ought to do something ... dealing with violations of OSM's geodata license

2011-03-21 Thread David Groom
- Original Message - From: Michael Collinson m...@ayeltd.biz To: Licensing and other legal discussions. legal-t...@openstreetmap.org Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2011 4:23 PM Subject: [OSM-legal-talk] Someone ought to do something ... dealing with violations of OSM's geodata license

Re: [OSM-talk] Coastline updates

2011-02-25 Thread David Groom
- Original Message - From: Jochen Topf joc...@remote.org To: OSM Talk talk@openstreetmap.org Sent: Friday, February 25, 2011 4:03 PM Subject: [OSM-talk] Coastline updates Hi! I have edited coastlines in Cornwall last summer and they are still not updated on the main map. (Easy to

Re: [OSM-talk] Coastline updates

2011-02-25 Thread David Groom
- Original Message - From: Jochen Topf joc...@remote.org To: OSM Talk talk@openstreetmap.org Sent: Friday, February 25, 2011 4:03 PM Subject: [OSM-talk] Coastline updates Hi! I have edited coastlines in Cornwall last summer and they are still not updated on the main map. (Easy to

Re: [OSM-talk] Coastline updates

2011-02-25 Thread David Groom
- Original Message - From: David Paleino da...@debian.org To: talk@openstreetmap.org Sent: Friday, February 25, 2011 5:57 PM Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Coastline updates David the way you refer to was last edited on 1 Feb 2011, I would not necessarily expect to see the results of

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] OpenStreetMap copyright credits

2011-02-16 Thread David Groom
On the wiki under phase 4 of the licencing plan [1] it says Final cut-off. Community Question: What do we do with the people who have declined or not responded? Who is the community in the above context, or more to the point who gets to decide who the community is? Regards David [1]

[OSM-legal-talk] Phase 4 -[erroneously was OpenStreetMap copyright credits]

2011-02-16 Thread David Groom
- Original Message - From: Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org To: legal-talk@openstreetmap.org Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2011 6:46 PM Subject: Re: [OSM-legal-talk] OpenStreetMap copyright credits Hi, On 02/16/11 18:56, David Groom wrote: On the wiki under phase 4

Re: [talk-au] Relicensing per changeset?

2011-02-15 Thread David Groom
- Original Message - From: Andrew Gregory andrew.greg...@gmail.com To: talk-au@openstreetmap.org Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2011 1:39 PM Subject: Re: [talk-au] Relicensing per changeset? On 7 February 2011 11:05, 4x4falcon i...@4x4falcon.com wrote: it will also be in fosm.org

Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: Re: collateral damage (was: What the license change is going to do to the map)

2011-02-10 Thread David Groom
- Original Message - From: Anthony o...@inbox.org To: Jean-Marc Liotier j...@liotier.org Cc: talk@openstreetmap.org Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 11:35 PM Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: Re: collateral damage (was: What the license change is going to do to the map) On Thu, Feb

Re: [talk-au] Relicensing per changeset?

2011-02-05 Thread David Groom
- Original Message - From: Andrew Gregory andrew.greg...@gmail.com To: OSM Australian Talk List talk-au@openstreetmap.org Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2011 5:30 AM Subject: Re: [talk-au] Relicensing per changeset? On 3 February 2011 08:38, Stephen Hope slh...@gmail.com wrote: On

Re: [talk-au] waterway=coastline

2011-02-03 Thread David Groom
- Original Message - From: Peter Watson peter.bmwk7...@gmail.com To: talk-au@openstreetmap.org Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2011 10:40 AM Subject: [talk-au] waterway=coastline Hi Everyone, I have noticed that all the Gold Coast canals are taged with waterway=coastline. I

[Talk-GB] Opendata and the CT's [WAS Adding a further 250, 000 UK roads quickly using a Bot?]

2011-02-03 Thread David Groom
- Original Message - From: Peter Miller peter.mil...@itoworld.com To: Jerry Clough : SK53 on OSM sk53_...@yahoo.co.uk Cc: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 11:11 AM Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Adding a further 250,000 UK roads quickly using a Bot? Thanks for

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] per changeset relicensing

2011-02-01 Thread David Groom
- Original Message - From: Richard Weait rich...@weait.com To: Licensing and other legal discussions. legal-talk@openstreetmap.org Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 9:38 PM Subject: [OSM-legal-talk] per changeset relicensing There have been previous discussions regarding per changeset

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] UK mapping authority switches to Open Government Licence (was: CTs and the 1 April deadline)

2011-01-07 Thread David Groom
- Original Message - From: Mike Collinson m...@ayeltd.biz To: Licensing and other legal discussions. legal-t...@openstreetmap.org Sent: Friday, January 07, 2011 1:56 PM Subject: Re: [OSM-legal-talk] UK mapping authority switches to Open Government Licence (was: CTs and the 1 April

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] UK mapping authority switches to Open Government Licence

2011-01-07 Thread David Groom
Licence At 02:47 PM 7/01/2011, David Groom wrote: - Original Message - From: Mike Collinson m...@ayeltd.biz In the case of the UK OS, there is a switch from a potential requirement for level 4 attribution to a clear requirement for level 1, so the Open Government Licence is definitely good

Re: [Talk-GB] OS have switched to Open Government License today...

2011-01-07 Thread David Groom
- Original Message - From: Richard Mann richard.mann.westoxf...@gmail.com To: Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org talk-gb@openstreetmap.org Sent: Friday, January 07, 2011 1:13 PM Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] OS have switched to Open Government License today... But (unless I've missed something)

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] CTs and the 1 April deadline

2011-01-04 Thread David Groom
- Original Message - From: Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net To: legal-talk@openstreetmap.org Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 4:48 PM Subject: Re: [OSM-legal-talk] CTs and the 1 April deadline John Smith wrote: Thanks for the clarification. In your opinion, what would be

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] CTs and the 1 April deadline

2011-01-04 Thread David Groom
- Original Message - From: Stephan Knauss o...@stephans-server.de To: Licensing and other legal discussions. legal-talk@openstreetmap.org Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 6:08 PM Subject: Re: [OSM-legal-talk] CTs and the 1 April deadline Peter Miller writes: I will currently be

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] CTs and the 1 April deadline

2011-01-04 Thread David Groom
- Original Message - From: John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com To: Licensing and other legal discussions. legal-talk@openstreetmap.org Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 6:18 PM Subject: Re: [OSM-legal-talk] CTs and the 1 April deadline On 5 January 2011 04:08, Stephan Knauss

Re: [Talk-GB] Street name disagreement - whose right or wrong?

2010-12-26 Thread David Groom
- Original Message - From: Dave F. dave...@madasafish.com To: talk-GB@openstreetmap.org Sent: Sunday, December 26, 2010 1:42 PM Subject: [Talk-GB] Street name disagreement - whose right or wrong? Hi I have a street in my area whose name is being contest by another mapper. To

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Someone already had a look at theBing TermsofUse?

2010-12-20 Thread David Groom
), David Groom wrote: I've repeatedly asked where is the explicit permission to use Bing Imagery to create derived works, all the only answer is we have it. As I've said before if its there please show us where it is. Just out of interest; why are we having this conversation? Is it just to determine

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Someone already had a look at the Bing Terms of Use?

2010-12-19 Thread David Groom
For the record 1) I accept that the Microsoft Licence[1] to use Bing imagery is an early version, and we have been told it will be revised 2) I suspect that Microsoft do intend that Bing imagery may be used to update OSM However: - Original Message - From: Rob Myers

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Someone already had a look at the Bing Termsof Use?

2010-12-19 Thread David Groom
14:40, David Groom revi...@pacific-rim.net wrote: The licence PDF states: Any updates you make to the OpenStreetMap map via the Application (even if not published to third parties) must be contributed back to openstreetmaps.org. Which is NOT the same as stating Microsoft have directly stated

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Someone already had a look at the Bing Terms of Use?

2010-12-19 Thread David Groom
- Original Message - From: Rob Myers r...@robmyers.org To: legal-talk@openstreetmap.org Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 4:34 PM Subject: Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Someone already had a look at the Bing Terms of Use? On 12/19/2010 02:40 PM, David Groom wrote: For the record 1) I

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] CT clarification: third-party sources

2010-12-09 Thread David Groom
- Original Message - From: pec...@gmail.com To: legal-talk@openstreetmap.org Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2010 10:01 AM Subject: [OSM-legal-talk] CT clarification: third-party sources Hi everyone! To clarify my criticism/confusion with CT: 1) I'm not against ODbL. It is nice

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] CT clarification: third-party sources

2010-12-09 Thread David Groom
- Original Message - From: Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org To: Licensing and other legal discussions. legal-talk@openstreetmap.org Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2010 7:14 PM Subject: Re: [OSM-legal-talk] CT clarification: third-party sources Peter, pec...@gmail.com wrote: 1) I'm

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] CT clarification: third-party sources

2010-12-09 Thread David Groom
- Original Message - From: Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org To: Licensing and other legal discussions. legal-talk@openstreetmap.org Sent: Friday, December 10, 2010 12:16 AM Subject: Re: [OSM-legal-talk] CT clarification: third-party sources Hi, David Groom wrote: Your above

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] New phrase in section 2

2010-12-07 Thread David Groom
this thread goes any further,Yes, a cock-up I believe, possibly mine. The un-highlighted text should be the same as CT 1.0. Thank you fx99 for pointing it out. Will investigate. Mike At 03:39 PM 3/12/2010, Richard Fairhurst wrote: David Groom wrote: If the OSMF board wish to move

Re: [OSM-talk] Unsetting CT flag

2010-12-06 Thread David Groom
- Original Message - From: Serge Wroclawski emac...@gmail.com To: Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com Cc: Open Street Map mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 1:55 PM Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Unsetting CT flag This should really be taking place on the legal

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] New phrase in section 2

2010-12-03 Thread David Groom
Original Message - From: Anthony o...@inbox.org To: Licensing and other legal discussions. legal-talk@openstreetmap.org Sent: Friday, December 03, 2010 12:10 AM Subject: Re: [OSM-legal-talk] New phrase in section 2 On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 6:42 PM, David Groom revi...@pacific-rim.net

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] New phrase in section 2

2010-12-03 Thread David Groom
- Original Message - From: Francis Davey fjm...@gmail.com To: Licensing and other legal discussions. legal-talk@openstreetmap.org Sent: Friday, December 03, 2010 2:43 PM Subject: Re: [OSM-legal-talk] New phrase in section 2 [snipped for brevity] Yes. I am fairly clear that some

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] New phrase in section 2

2010-12-02 Thread David Groom
- Original Message - From: Anthony o...@inbox.org To: Licensing and other legal discussions. legal-talk@openstreetmap.org Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 3:43 PM Subject: Re: [OSM-legal-talk] New phrase in section 2 On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 3:00 AM, Francis Davey fjm...@gmail.com

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] some interesting points from the bing license

2010-12-01 Thread David Groom
- Original Message - From: Sebastian Klein basti...@googlemail.com To: legal-talk@openstreetmap.org Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 9:54 AM Subject: Re: [OSM-legal-talk] some interesting points from the bing license Mike Dupont wrote: I have highlighted and commented on points

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] some interesting points from the bing license

2010-12-01 Thread David Groom
- Original Message - From: Anthony o...@inbox.org To: Licensing and other legal discussions. legal-t...@openstreetmap.org Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 12:10 PM Subject: Re: [OSM-legal-talk] some interesting points from the bing license On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 6:34 AM, David

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [DRAFT] Contributor Terms 1.2

2010-11-22 Thread David Groom
like (to the contributor) it is compatible with the OSMF's current licence - there is no need for the contributor to be sure about this, but OSMF makes it clear that this is what it would like I think I have the same question about this as David Groom: Yes , you do. The OSMF tells me that I'm

Re: [talk-au] Fwd: license change map

2010-11-22 Thread David Groom
- Original Message - From: Richard Weait rich...@weait.com To: David Murn da...@incanberra.com.au Cc: talk-au talk-au@openstreetmap.org Sent: Monday, November 22, 2010 12:45 PM Subject: Re: [talk-au] Fwd: license change map On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 7:34 AM, David Murn

Re: [talk-au] Fwd: license change map

2010-11-22 Thread David Groom
- Original Message - From: Richard Weait rich...@weait.com To: David Murn da...@incanberra.com.au Cc: talk-au talk-au@openstreetmap.org Sent: Monday, November 22, 2010 12:45 PM Subject: Re: [talk-au] Fwd: license change map On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 7:34 AM, David Murn

Re: [talk-au] CT / ODbL approval by changeset.

2010-11-22 Thread David Groom
- Original Message - From: Richard Weait rich...@weait.com To: David Groom revi...@pacific-rim.net Cc: talk-au talk-au@openstreetmap.org Sent: Monday, November 22, 2010 4:58 PM Subject: Re: [talk-au] CT / ODbL approval by changeset. On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 11:34 AM, David Groom revi

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [DRAFT] Contributor Terms 1.2

2010-11-18 Thread David Groom
- Original Message - From: Francis Davey fjm...@gmail.com To: Licensing and other legal discussions. legal-talk@openstreetmap.org Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2010 2:50 PM Subject: Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [DRAFT] Contributor Terms 1.2 On 17 November 2010 13:30, David Groom revi

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [DRAFT] Contributor Terms 1.2

2010-11-17 Thread David Groom
- Original Message - From: Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org To: legal-talk@openstreetmap.org Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2010 11:18 AM Subject: Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [DRAFT] Contributor Terms 1.2 Hi, On 11/17/10 10:46, ke...@cordina.org.uk wrote: Looking at this the eyes or a

Re: [Talk-GB] Footpath reference numbers

2010-11-08 Thread David Groom
- Original Message - From: Andy Street m...@andystreet.me.uk To: Nick Whitelegg nick.whitel...@solent.ac.uk Cc: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 3:22 PM Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Footpath reference numbers On Mon, 2010-11-08 at 14:37 +, Nick Whitelegg

Re: [talk-au] Port Hacking (Bay v. Water)

2010-10-21 Thread David Groom
- Original Message - From: Andrew Harvey andrew.harv...@gmail.com To: OSM Australian Talk List talk-au@openstreetmap.org Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 11:51 PM Subject: Re: [talk-au] Port Hacking (Bay v. Water) On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 11:34 PM, Markus_g marku...@bigpond.com

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] legal FAQ license

2010-10-13 Thread David Groom
- Original Message - From: Richard Weait rich...@weait.com To: Licensing and other legal discussions. legal-talk@openstreetmap.org Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2010 11:32 PM Subject: Re: [OSM-legal-talk] legal FAQ license On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 4:05 PM, David Groom revi...@pacific

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Checking if I understand correctly...

2010-10-04 Thread David Groom
- Original Message - From: Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com To: Licensing and other legal discussions. legal-t...@openstreetmap.org Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 12:33 AM Subject: [OSM-legal-talk] Checking if I understand correctly... Hi, Is the following statement correct: Under

Re: [OSM-talk] Countries that have NOT had any imports?

2010-09-30 Thread David Groom
- Original Message - From: Elena ``of Valhalla'' elena.valha...@gmail.com To: talk@openstreetmap.org Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2010 10:34 AM Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Countries that have NOT had any imports? On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 02:41:12PM -0700, Kai Krueger wrote: with all

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] OS Opendata amp; the new license

2010-09-29 Thread David Groom
- Original Message - From: Grant Slater openstreet...@firefishy.com To: ke...@cordina.org.uk; Licensing and other legal discussions. legal-t...@openstreetmap.org Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 1:21 PM Subject: Re: [OSM-legal-talk] OS Opendata amp; the new license On 29 September

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] OS Opendata the new license

2010-09-17 Thread David Groom
- Original Message - From: Rob Myers r...@robmyers.org To: legal-talk@openstreetmap.org Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 11:25 AM Subject: Re: [OSM-legal-talk] OS Opendata the new license On 09/17/2010 01:12 AM, 80n wrote: That's a bit of a jump isn't it? Firstly, the CTs allow

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] OS Opendata the new license

2010-09-17 Thread David Groom
- Original Message - From: Rob Myers r...@robmyers.org To: legal-talk@openstreetmap.org Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 5:03 PM Subject: Re: [OSM-legal-talk] OS Opendata the new license On 09/17/2010 03:45 PM, David Groom wrote: In what way are you suggesting OSMF would breach

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] OS Opendata the new license

2010-09-17 Thread David Groom
- Original Message - From: Francis Davey fjm...@gmail.com To: Licensing and other legal discussions. legal-t...@openstreetmap.org Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 1:31 PM Subject: Re: [OSM-legal-talk] OS Opendata the new license On 17 September 2010 13:22, David Groom revi

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] OS Opendata the new license

2010-09-17 Thread David Groom
- Original Message - From: Rob Myers r...@robmyers.org To: legal-t...@openstreetmap.org Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 1:33 PM Subject: Re: [OSM-legal-talk] OS Opendata the new license On 09/17/2010 01:22 PM, David Groom wrote: But your missing the point. The since the CT's

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] OS Opendata the new license

2010-09-16 Thread David Groom
- Original Message - From: Dave F. dave...@madasafish.com To: Licensing and other legal discussions. legal-t...@openstreetmap.org Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 1:35 PM Subject: [OSM-legal-talk] OS Opendata the new license Hi

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] OS Opendata the new license

2010-09-16 Thread David Groom
- Original Message - From: Dave F. dave...@madasafish.com To: Licensing and other legal discussions. legal-t...@openstreetmap.org Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 3:47 PM Subject: Re: [OSM-legal-talk] OS Opendata the new license On 16/09/2010 15:08, David Groom wrote: When you

Re: [talk-au] NearMap

2010-09-16 Thread David Groom
- Original Message - From: Richard Weait rich...@weait.com To: OSM Australian Talk List talk-au@openstreetmap.org Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 11:11 PM Subject: Re: [talk-au] NearMap On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 5:48 PM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: On 16

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Noise vs unanswered questions

2010-09-02 Thread David Groom
- Original Message - From: Rob Myers r...@robmyers.org To: legal-talk@openstreetmap.org Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2010 4:40 PM Subject: Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Noise vs unanswered questions On 09/02/2010 04:16 PM, Maarten Deen wrote: There was some discussion on how the group

Re: [OSM-talk] ODbL vs CC-by-SA pros and cons

2010-09-02 Thread David Groom
- Original Message - From: Ed Avis e...@waniasset.com To: talk@openstreetmap.org Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2010 1:09 PM Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] ODbL vs CC-by-SA pros and cons Grant Slater openstreetmap at firefishy.com writes: The vote has been dropped, so don't expect to be

[OSM-legal-talk] Licence Implementation plan - declines or non-responses

2010-08-29 Thread David Groom
In the implementation plan under phase 4 it asks Final cut-off. Community Question... What do we do with the people who have Declined or not responded? [1] In order to speed up the final phases of the implementation plan, and in particular the move from PHASE 4 to DONE, would it be best to

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