Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Including OSM maps in leaflets

2008-03-27 Thread Robert (Jamie) Munro
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Rob Myers wrote: | [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | | Therefore, I argue that CC-BY-SA 3.0 should be okay, given we're talking | about a Derivative Work. | | What is the derivative work in this scenario? The printed map. It will probably be based on

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] RFC: railway=incline

2008-03-27 Thread Tomáš Tichý
Both this proposals have the same flaw I pointed out before - you cannot tag other types of railway systems as incline. So you cannot have funicular subway or rag light_rail, which of course exists in reality. So please include my proposal to voting: railway=rail | light_rail | tram | subway

[OSM-talk] China cracks down on illegal online map services to protect state security

2008-03-27 Thread Edoardo Marascalchi
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2008-03/25/content_7858467.htm China cracks down on illegal online map services to protect state security BEIJING, March 25 (Xinhua) -- The Chinese government is to crack down on illegal online map and geographical information websites, claiming they threaten

Re: [OSM-talk] Name finder and home page search working again

2008-03-27 Thread Stefan Baebler
On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 12:55 AM, David Earl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 26/03/2008 19:31, OJ W wrote: Is it doing anything with the multilingual names in OSM (name:de=... and similar)? Yes, that should have been on my list in the previous message. This always was included. e.g. try

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] RFC: railway=incline

2008-03-27 Thread Robert Vollmert
On Mar 27, 2008, at 00:56, Alex L. Mauer wrote: Sven Geggus wrote: 1.) adding railway=funicular and rag=yes for non funicular incline railways 2.) adding railway=incline and an additional tags for types of incline railways (funicular,rag, ...) I think it is important to be able to mark

Re: [OSM-talk] [Gfoss] China cracks down on illegal online map services to protect state security

2008-03-27 Thread Cristiano Giovando
Bhe, cose simili succedono anche in Italia, per cui mi han quasi sequestrato il GPS per averlo usato all'interno del centro di ricerca di Ispra (VA), circa 30km di strade. Sono anche stato invitato a rimuovere quello che avevo già mappato. Qui nasce il problema del confine tra libertà di mappa e

[OSM-talk] The State of Terminal 5

2008-03-27 Thread 80n
The new terminal 5 at Heathrow airport opened today. I've just done a survey of the quality of the on-line maps for this major new facility. The results are on the OpenGeoData blog: http://www.opengeodata.org/?p=286 Enjoy. 80n ___ talk mailing list

[OSM-talk] OSM poll

2008-03-27 Thread SteveC
See the poll at the bottom right hand corner, and vote OSM: http://www.directionsmag.com/ :-) have fun, SteveC | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.asklater.com/steve/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk] The State of Terminal 5

2008-03-27 Thread Nick Black
Very timely ;-) On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 11:07 AM, 80n [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The new terminal 5 at Heathrow airport opened today. I've just done a survey of the quality of the on-line maps for this major new facility. The results are on the OpenGeoData blog:

Re: [OSM-talk] Name finder and home page search working again

2008-03-27 Thread Sebastian Spaeth
David Earl wrote: It's a hard call. I did do a kind of weighting in the where am I feature to give a reasonable spread of places of different kinds - though again Tom hasn't implemented this in quite the same way on the home page. I agree that it's a hard call (and trade-off). Also, I

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] RFC: railway=incline

2008-03-27 Thread Sven Geggus
Tomáš Tichý [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Both this proposals have the same flaw I pointed out before - you cannot tag other types of railway systems as incline. So you cannot have funicular subway or rag light_rail, which of course exists in reality. subsurface funicular railways are by not

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] RFC: railway=incline

2008-03-27 Thread Robert (Jamie) Munro
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Sven Geggus wrote: | rag-and-pinion Surely you mean Rack and pinion? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rack_and_pinion Someone else said rag=yes for a tag, and I had no idea what they were on about until now. :-) Robert (Jamie) Munro -BEGIN PGP

[OSM-talk] OSM real paper map of Freiburg, Germany

2008-03-27 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Jochen and I have produced a real paper map of the city of Freiburg for the FOSSGIS 2008 conference. The map is an A3, two sided, full colour print, folded just like city maps are usually folded; we have printed 1,000 copies for a total price of 360 Euros plus VAT. The printing is

Re: [OSM-talk] Name finder and home page search working again

2008-03-27 Thread David Earl
On 27/03/2008 09:07, Stefan Baebler wrote: On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 12:55 AM, David Earl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 26/03/2008 19:31, OJ W wrote: Is it doing anything with the multilingual names in OSM (name:de=... and similar)? Yes, that should have been on my list in the previous

Re: [OSM-talk] Name finder and home page search working again

2008-03-27 Thread David Earl
On 27/03/2008 10:56, Sebastian Spaeth wrote: I wonder whether some context can be drawn in from whether there is a administrative city boundary or residential landuse area surrounding a street. But this would of course increase the parsing complexity a lot, I guess. It's a whole different

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM real paper map of Freiburg, Germany

2008-03-27 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder)
Niche work, looks a great map and a great showcase. Cheers Andy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:talk- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Frederik Ramm Sent: 27 March 2008 11:48 AM To: OSM-Talk Talk Subject: [OSM-talk] OSM real paper map of Freiburg, Germany Hi,

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM real paper map of Freiburg, Germany

2008-03-27 Thread David Earl
On 27/03/2008 11:47, Frederik Ramm wrote: Hi, Jochen and I have produced a real paper map of the city of Freiburg for the FOSSGIS 2008 conference. The map is an A3, two sided, full colour print, folded just like city maps are usually folded; we have printed 1,000 copies for a

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM real paper map of Freiburg, Germany

2008-03-27 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, This is great - well done. Thanks. I did a one-off A2 paper map of Cambridge after I completed the City about a year ago, and one problem I had was that to get the whole city in the street names were too small on the whole. I see you solved thios by not putting the suburban

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM real paper map of Freiburg, Germany

2008-03-27 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Rodrigo Moya wrote: I'd like to do something similar, so could you please share the process to do it? Well it's really not a magic process, just using the standard tools and a lot of manual labour ;-) I wrote down a bit more detail under the process heading here:

[OSM-talk] Also about Freiburg

2008-03-27 Thread Juan Lucas Dominguez Rubio
Hello, a co-worker of mine is visiting Freiburg next week for the German speaking Open Source GIS community meeting and we would like to have a nice map of Freiburg to use it in our demo. The map you have just posted is ok, and we might use it, but an orthophoto would be even better. The

Re: [OSM-talk] Name finder and home page search working again

2008-03-27 Thread Karl Newman
I have in mind a piece of work I'm loosely calling finding the urban envelope which would analyse areas based on highway=residential and abutters, where present, and other relevant clues, to heuristically determine contiguous settlements. Hee. That's a nice idea, but I fear it would call

[OSM-talk] Tagging HAM radio repeaters.

2008-03-27 Thread simon
Anyone done anything on this yet? There doesn't seem to be anything on the Wiki. Repeater locations would make sense as: 'man_made=communications_tower' 'name=local_name' 'ref=callsign' 'elevation=antenna_elevation' 'operator=operator' But should/could frequencies be added as a list

Re: [OSM-talk] GPS recommendation

2008-03-27 Thread Gervase Markham
Richard Fairhurst wrote: IME the NaviGPS is not as reliable or as intuitive as I would like. These units are going to be used by children and primary school teachers so this is a worry. I have a NaviGPS, and I wouldn't put it in the hands of a child and expect them to understand it. It

Re: [OSM-talk] Tagging HAM radio repeaters.

2008-03-27 Thread Jon Stockill
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also any objection to a closed wey showing coverage limit, and how should this be tagged? (would probably need a wey per transmitter frequency). Coverage would depend a great deal on the equipment used to access the repeater though. Jon

Re: [OSM-talk] Name finder and home page search working again

2008-03-27 Thread Gervase Markham
David Earl wrote: Suggestions for addressing this welcome - incrementally returning results is one possibility I guess. You can qualify it ..., UK (provided the is_in is present - which is almost never is for US places), but that's non-obvious. I strongly suspect Google Maps either only

Re: [OSM-talk] Cooperative Differential GPS

2008-03-27 Thread Gora Mohanty
(Please note that I am copying this message to the OpenStreetMap folk: http://openstreetmap.org as we will hopefully find more GPS/mapping experts there. Please edit the list of recipients if you need to.) On Thu, 27 Mar 2008 14:24:56 +0100 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all! After hours of

Re: [OSM-talk] Cooperative Differential GPS

2008-03-27 Thread simon
[Disclaimer, although I work for a company that manufactures GPS equipment I don't claim to be an expert]. WAAS is broadcast from 2 satellites over the US, and contains a simplistic model of the atmosphere conditions over the US on a grid based system (100km I think). This allows a GPS receiver

Re: [OSM-talk] Cooperative Differential GPS

2008-03-27 Thread Stefan Baebler
Gora Mohanty wrote: (Please note that I am copying this message to the OpenStreetMap folk: http://openstreetmap.org as we will hopefully find more GPS/mapping experts there. Please edit the list of recipients if you need to.) On Thu, 27 Mar 2008 14:24:56 +0100 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

[OSM-talk] how to tag travellers camps?

2008-03-27 Thread graham
Does anyone have any ideas for tagging traveller's camps? There are quite a few round my way, long-term caravan sites with hard surfaces, AFAIK all gypsy and not open to random caravanners. landuse = travellers_camp? Or 'gypsy site'? I'm trying not to fall between lack of political correctness

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM poll

2008-03-27 Thread Alex S.
SteveC wrote: See the poll at the bottom right hand corner, and vote OSM: http://www.directionsmag.com/ As of my vote, OSM was at 74% of respondents (196 votes thus far). ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk] how to tag travellers camps?

2008-03-27 Thread Simone Cortesi
On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 9:17 PM, graham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone have any ideas for tagging traveller's camps? There are quite a few round my way, long-term caravan sites with hard surfaces, AFAIK all gypsy and not open to random caravanners. landuse = travellers_camp? Or

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] RFC: railway=incline

2008-03-27 Thread Alex Mauer
Sven Geggus wrote: All I said is that there is no such beast as a generic incline railroad. But there is such a thing as a railroad which is known to be incline, but for which the drive system is unknown. As I understand it, there are standard railways which have rack-driven sections, so

[OSM-talk] Osmarender and coastlines

2008-03-27 Thread Paul Hurley
Hello. As part of my new found obsession^D hobby I'm mapping parts of Northumberland, and updating some wiki pages around that area (like http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Northumberland and http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Tyne_and_Wear ). I'm trying to render images for these

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM poll

2008-03-27 Thread Sven Grüner
SteveC schrieb: See the poll at the bottom right hand corner, and vote OSM: http://www.directionsmag.com/ I think those last three words were redundant ;-) (at least when adressing this list) WTH would anyone want to contribute to NavTeq Co. Maybe I should give that some consideration

Re: [OSM-talk] Osmarender and coastlines

2008-03-27 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, It render what I assume is each individual way on the coastline as a closed polygon in blue, so there's a wiggly line (coast) and a straight line (the bot closing the polygon) which sometimes cuts off the coast. Presumably, as Martijn already pointed out, you're missing the

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM poll

2008-03-27 Thread Iván Sánchez Ortega
El Viernes, 28 de Marzo de 2008, Sven Grüner escribió: WTH would anyone want to contribute to NavTeq Co. - Money - (Heavy) dependency on their products. -- -- Iván Sánchez Ortega [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Jabber:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL

Re: [Talk-de] AnfXngerfrage: Autobahn reparieren

2008-03-27 Thread Karl Eichwalder
In Josm den ganzen Weg anwählen, mit Shift Taste auch den fehlverbundenen Knoten anwählen, danach P drücken. Damit hat man dann 2 Wege. Dann kann man das letzte Segment verändern und mit c wieder die ausgewählten Wege verbinden. Das scheint mir die variante weg splitten und einen teil löschen

[Talk-de] Neues Worldfile vom 26.3.08

2008-03-27 Thread Carsten Schwede
Hallo, die neuen Daten vom 26.3.08 liegen wieder zum Download bereit unter: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/User:Computerteddy -- Viele Gruesse Computerteddy ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Talk-de] Talk-de Digest, Vol 20, Issue 71

2008-03-27 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Message: 11 Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2008 21:02:39 +0100 From: Daniela Duerbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Talk-de] Anf?ngerfrage: Autobahn reparieren To: [EMAIL PROTECTED],Openstreetmap allgemeines in Deutsch talk-de@openstreetmap.org Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Talk-de] AnfXngerfrage: Autobahn reparieren

2008-03-27 Thread Thomas Hieber
Karl Eichwalder schrieb: In Josm den ganzen Weg anwählen, mit Shift Taste auch den fehlverbundenen Knoten anwählen, danach P drücken. Damit hat man dann 2 Wege. Dann kann man das letzte Segment verändern und mit c wieder die ausgewählten Wege verbinden. Das scheint mir die variante weg

Re: [Talk-de] Osmarender in Perl

2008-03-27 Thread Andreas Stricker
Frederik Ramm schrieb: ich weiss nicht, ob ich in diesem Kreise schon mal dafuer Werbung gemacht habe, falls ja, bitte ich um Entschuldigung ;-) Gemacht habe ich das hauptsaechlich, weil ich weiss, dass sehr viel mehr Leute Perl programmieren koennen als XSLT, und ich mir also einige

Re: [Talk-de] Osmarender: PisteMaps

2008-03-27 Thread Andreas Stricker
John07 schrieb: * Ich war heute mal wieder Ski fahren in der schönen Rhoen und hab dabei mein GPS eingesteckt (nicht nur wegen dem Track, ist interessant mal zu sehen, wie schnell man so fährt, wie lang man ansteht...). Hab das ganze nun mehr oder weniger korrekt

Re: [Talk-de] Osmarender in Perl

2008-03-27 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hallo, Ja, schon getestet und (Vorsicht Denglish) gebenchmarked. Mit den PisteMaps war das der Faktor 3 schneller! Gute Arbeit. Das bloede ist, dass bei einem typischen Tile-Rendering ungefaehr 90% der Zeit im Inkscape drauf geht, d.h. die schnellere Laufzeit von or/p ansich bringt noch

Re: [Talk-de] Tracks vereinfachen

2008-03-27 Thread Andreas Stricker
Fabian -Patzi- Patzke schrieb: ich bin in der Gegend um Göttingen auf Ways gestoßen, die ca. jede 5m einen Node besitzen. Jeder der Nodes hat auch noch das highway Tag des Weges. Die Punkte sind viel zu dicht gesetzt und der Weg dürfte so ein 10 faches an Platz belegen. Ein wirklichen Gewinn

Re: [Talk-de] Neues Worldfile vom 26.3.08

2008-03-27 Thread Stefan Seifert
Hallo, ich habe auch wieder ein aktuelles TYP-File für Carsten's Karten erstellt, es tauchen jetzt auch die ersten POI auf. Zu finden ist das Ganze hier: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/User:Saftl Carsten Schwede schrieb: Hallo, die neuen Daten vom 26.3.08 liegen wieder zum

[Talk-de] Fixscript

2008-03-27 Thread Hanno Böck
Hi, Ich fange grad an mit Jochens ruby osmlib ein kleines Fixscript zu starten. Als guter Atheist nahm ich mir erstmal die Religionstags vor, um dort Fehler auszumerzen :-) Wenn man mal hier draufschaut: http://etricceline.de/osm/germany/en_combination_amenity%3Dplace_of_worship.htm sieht man

Re: [Talk-de] AnfXngerfrage: Autobahn reparieren

2008-03-27 Thread Prokop Jehlicka
Moin, ja das stimmt, es könnte einen Shortcut für Knoten aufteilen geben. Ich erzeuge bei so etwas einfach einen neuen Weg und kopiere die Tags rüber (Strg-C; Strg-Umschalt-V) anschließend lösche ich den ursprünglichen Weg. Das geht allerdings auch nur dann gut, wenn der Weg keine

Re: [Talk-de] Osmarender in Perl

2008-03-27 Thread Andreas Jacob
Hallo, Das bloede ist, dass bei einem typischen Tile-Rendering ungefaehr 90% der Zeit im Inkscape drauf geht, d.h. die schnellere Laufzeit von or/p ansich bringt noch nichts, es wird erst dann richtig gut, wenn wir die Mittel von Perl einsetzen koennen, um ein vereinfachtes SVG zu

Re: [Talk-de] Tracks vereinfachen

2008-03-27 Thread Andreas Jacob
Hallo Ja, hier kann auf jeden Fall aufgeräumt werden, schön das das auch gemacht wird. Ich habe in letzter Zeit auch einige Stellen aufgeräumt. Da waren offensichtlich in Ways umgewandelte GPX-Tracks dabei und massenhafte doppelte Nodes und mit highway Tags getaggte Nodes. Ich lasse

[Talk-de] JOSM-Update

2008-03-27 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hallo, kurze Uebersetzung eines Postings von mir auf talk bezueglich Neuerungen in JOSM: * Der Massstab oben links ist jetzt richtig (vorher wurden z.T. falsche Zahlen angezeigt. * Die Tagging Presets funktionieren jetzt anders, es sollte nicht mehr vorkommen, dass irgendwas an einem

Re: [Talk-de] Tracks vereinfachen

2008-03-27 Thread Sven Grüner
Andreas Jacob schrieb: Ich lasse eigentlich auch häufiger mal den Validator laufen. Nur was ich bisher in JOSM nicht herausgefunden habe: gibt es eine Möglichkeit das Kartenfenster auf selektierte Elemente zu zentrieren? Der Klick auf die entsprechenden Fehlermeldungen des Validators

Re: [Talk-de] Osmarender in Perl

2008-03-27 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hallo, Wenn ich z12-z17 rendere mag dies mit den 90% für inkscape hinkommen, aber sobald ich in den Bereich von z8-z11 rendern gehe, dann würde ich eher sagen, dass es umgekehrt ist. Dann gönnt sich nämlich xmlstarlet mindestens 90% der Zeit. Von daher hatte ich schon überlegt, mal die Perl

Re: [Talk-de] gesucht: sowas wie mapbuilder.net

2008-03-27 Thread Stefan Keller
Frederik Ramm schrieb *10 10:25:00 GMT 2008* fuer einen Freund suche ich ein Programm, das aehnliches leistet wie mapbuilder.net: Man gibt eine Adresse ein, bekommt einen Pin an die Stelle auf einem Luftbild oder einer Karte gesetzt, kann den noch von Hand korrigieren und dazu eine Bemerkung

Re: [Talk-de] Fixscript

2008-03-27 Thread Ulf Lamping
Hanno Böck schrieb: Hi, Ich fange grad an mit Jochens ruby osmlib ein kleines Fixscript zu starten. Als guter Atheist nahm ich mir erstmal die Religionstags vor, um dort Fehler auszumerzen :-) Find ich gut! Gruß, ULFL ___ Talk-de mailing

[Talk-de] History fuer Relations

2008-03-27 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hallo, ich finde jetzt gerade den Beitrag nicht mehr, aber ich glaube, jemand hat hier mal angemahnt, dass alle Anfragen der Form /api/0.5/relation/12345/history mit einem Internal Server Error beantwortet werden. Das hab ich mittlerweile repariert, und Tom Hughes hat die Aenderung auch schon

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] outils pour PDA

2008-03-27 Thread Gand'
OSMtracker, avec un smartphone ! -- Gand' 2008/3/27 [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Bonjour, quelle serait selon vous la boite à outils ultime pour mapper simplement et efficacement avec un PDA. pour le moment, j'utilise un PDA asus A639 et noniGPSPlot pour faire mes traces mais je trouve qu'il y

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Re : outils pour PDA

2008-03-27 Thread Olivier Boudet
Des outils comme Mobile Trail Explorer ou Trekbuddy, tous les deux en Java, ne fonctionnent pas avec un PDA ? 2008/3/27 Gand' [EMAIL PROTECTED]: oui, avec osmtracker sur smartphone, j'ai aussi des soucis au lancement ! mais en fait, c'est apparement à cause du fait qu'il se connecte au

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Re : Re : outils pour PDA

2008-03-27 Thread Gand'
que ce soit sur mon pda (Acer n311) ou mon smartphone (LG KS20), trekbuddy ne marche pas car le java n'a pas été compilé avec l'extension bluetooth ... -- Gand' 2008/3/27 Arnaud CORBET [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Il faut que le PDA ait un interpréteur JAVA, et c'est loin d'être le cas de tous. Sun

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Initiatives OSM sur Rennes

2008-03-27 Thread Bernard VALTON
bonjour, Concernant la région rennaise, je suis en train de faire la carte de Montgermont, je pense avoir fini les routes et chemins d'ici un mois ou deux puis je compléterais avec les autres informations petit à petit. Mon objectif étant d'avoir une carte très complète car je souhaite me servir

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Initiatives OSM sur Rennes

2008-03-27 Thread Olivier Boudet
Bonjour, Pour ceux qui ne me connaissent pas j'ai principalement mappé Vannes et Liffré, juste à coté de Rennes, ainsi qu'un certain nombre de routes de campagne en Ille et Vilaine. Je suis prêt, comme d'autres, à participer à cette réunion en tant que support à JOSM et Maemo Mapper. Je suis