Re: [talk-ph] Philippines PGS coastline import

2009-06-17 Thread George Tujan
-Xms switch specifies the initial size, in bytes, of the memory allocation pool On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 1:55 PM, maning sambaleemmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: I've got 2Gb of memory in my laptop, so I can use this:  java -jar -Xms500m -Xmx500m josm-tested.jar which gives me 500Mb of memory

Re: [talk-ph] tag for vulcanizing shops

2009-06-17 Thread Mike Collinson
shop=vulcanizing +1 The shop tag is for any retail product or service. When we were debating its format, it seemed while there is a smallish set of natural core values like shop=supermarket, the larger set has to be tailored to individual countries' needs and cultures. Mike At 07:19 AM

Re: [talk-ph] tag for vulcanizing shops

2009-06-17 Thread maning sambale
Just curious is this just a pinoy thing (vulcanizing)? Or we have similar shops like this in other countries. On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 2:41 PM, Mike Collinsonm...@ayeltd.biz wrote: shop=vulcanizing +1 The shop tag is for any retail product or service. When we were debating its format, it

Re: [talk-ph] tag for vulcanizing shops

2009-06-17 Thread Mike Collinson
At 08:46 AM 17/06/2009, maning sambale wrote: Just curious is this just a pinoy thing (vulcanizing)? Or we havesimilar shops like this in other countries. A Pinoy thing! ... I must admit when I first came to the Philippines I had to ask what it meant though I now understand it is the proper

[talk-ph] tagging distinctly Philippine POIs

2009-06-17 Thread maning sambale
The previous thread drove me to post this. I have always been wondering how we tag features that are distinctly Filipino. Often I encounter a feature that is not the Map Feature like vulcanizing. some examples: tricycle terminal talipapa pasalubong/souvenir shops small stores (sari-sari) MMDA

Re: [talk-ph] tagging distinctly Philippine POIs

2009-06-17 Thread Jim Morgan
maning sambale wrote, On Wednesday, 17 June, 2009 03:10 PM: I have always been wondering how we tag features that are distinctly Filipino. Often I encounter a feature that is not the Map Feature like vulcanizing. Or maybe we should try to fit them into more generic tags where possible? If

Re: [talk-ph] tagging distinctly Philippine POIs

2009-06-17 Thread Ronny Ager-Wick - Develo Ltd.
Very interesting conversation! I often wonder which tag to put on certain POIs and sometimes resort to guessing, which of course is not good. What if we use this discussion as a basis for a wiki page for Pinoy POIs, sort of like a dictionary of amenities, like: MMDA urinals - see toilets Toilets -

Re: [talk-ph] tag for vulcanizing shops

2009-06-17 Thread George Tujan
and in our dialect we even call it bolkit! hehehe but seriously how do we settle this? do we go with shop=vulcanizing? which btw, is ok here but definitely not applicable elsewhere (as Eugene pointed out) or maybe another suggestion? shop=tire_repair perhaps? On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 7:18 PM,

Re: [talk-ph] tagging distinctly Philippine POIs

2009-06-17 Thread George Tujan
can we setup a generic tag for POIs? so that when a contributor has doubt on what tags to use they can just use the generic tag then either update it or let others update it later On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 7:35 PM, Ronny Ager-Wick - Develo Ltd.r...@develo.ltd.uk wrote: Very interesting

Re: [talk-ph] invitation by bmw club

2009-06-17 Thread Eugene Alvin Villar
I think I can squeeze some time for this. :-) On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 7:06 AM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.comwrote: I just got an invitation for a breakfast meeting with the bmw club. They are interested in our project mostly for gps navigation. They want to know more about OSM-PH

Re: [talk-ph] tagging distinctly Philippine POIs

2009-06-17 Thread maning sambale
It's very difficult to decide whether we create our own Pinoy tags or adapt existing ones for two reasons: 1. this is an international project we need to maintain the commonality of features so that it is understandable across countries; 2. some features are hyper-local, it cannot be assigned to

[OSM-legal-talk] OSM data grant

2009-06-17 Thread Marc Roussel
Hi, i'm consultant in GIS and cartography domain. Can i use OSM shape data for my work?  I make and sell digital maps, and i sell may compositions in raster format.  My end product is an elaboration  datas, vector + raster. My question is if i can use OSM shape data for sale my etaboration

[OSM-legal-talk] post-migration terms for maps rendered by OSM?

2009-06-17 Thread Mike Linksvayer
This may be a stupid or uninteresting question. Or the answer may be obvious and I've completely missed it. Apologies in any of those cases. Currently I understand that all data and content on OSM is available under CC BY-SA. That is suboptimal for databases, which of course is why ODbL is

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] OSM data grant

2009-06-17 Thread Tyler
Hi Marc, I am not a lawyer, and I don't speak with any authority on either the legal implications of the license or on behalf of the OpenStreetMap Foundation. And no part of this e-mail constitutes legal advice, talk to a lawyer familiar with intellectual property law. The data for OSM is

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] post-migration terms for maps rendered by OSM?

2009-06-17 Thread Ulf Möller
Mike Linksvayer schrieb: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:OpenStreetMap_maps Under what terms will maps rendered by OSM be available after the database is migrated to ODbL? That will be up to the people doing the rendering. For maps rendered on Wikimedia servers (see

[OSM-talk] Land Information New Zealand (LINZ) data import technical steps

2009-06-17 Thread Joe Richards
I'm working on the LINZ data import, which will bring New Zealand's maps forward in a huge leap and includes all roads, streets, various features (parks, airports, streams, riverways etc). LINZ gave OSM permission over a year ago to import the data, provided attribution was passed on with the

Re: [OSM-talk] openmaps.org

2009-06-17 Thread Andy Allan
On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 5:30 PM, Eric Pritchette...@bitsofclever.com wrote: Hi Everyone, I recently donated openmaps.org to the Open Street Map Foundation. Everyone here is doing a great job with this project and I thought you could make better use of the domain. One thing needs to be said

Re: [OSM-talk] Lake Cowichan Now loaded (more of sample 092c area)

2009-06-17 Thread andrzej zaborowski
Hi, 2009/6/17 Sam Vekemans acrosscanadatra...@gmail.com: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=48.8221lon=-124.053zoom=12layers=B000FTF This looks really nice and I'm happy to see the POIs converted too. You can see alot more detail on this area. The only feature that isnt loaded is the big

Re: [OSM-talk] [english 95%] Re: openmaps.org

2009-06-17 Thread wer-ist-roger
Hej Jens, nice mockup. But I like more the idea of having thumbnails side by side then this tab-like style. roger Am Dienstag 16 Juni 2009 schrieb Jens Frank: 2009/6/16 k...@vielevisels k...@vielevisels.de So, if you don't take some time to discover what osm can do, you probably won't

Re: [OSM-talk] Lake Cowichan Now loaded (more of sample 092c area)

2009-06-17 Thread Marc Schütz
I think the definitions really don't belong in the the data -- perhaps if you want to see them, your browser should look them up in some table rather than load from the data. +1 It should be sufficient to keep the canvec:UUID, source and attribution tags, and maybe a few of the other

Re: [OSM-talk] [english 95%] Re: openmaps.org

2009-06-17 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2009/6/17 wer-ist-roger juwelier-onl...@web.de: Hej Jens, nice mockup. But I like more the idea of having thumbnails side by side then this tab-like style. Yes, it is indeed quite nice, but IMHO not suitable for a large variety of different Maps (lets say 20-30). cheers, Martin

[OSM-talk] Fixing duplicate nodes/ways

2009-06-17 Thread Alice Kaerast
Hi, I used php_bulk_upload to make some changes a while back, and it has been recently pointed out that it really screwed things up - creating many duplicate nodes across a very wide area. Rather than just uploading the large number of changes I'd made, it also uploaded new copies of existing

Re: [OSM-talk] Move the Map

2009-06-17 Thread Joe Richards
One of the main annoyances that people tell me that they have with OSM is that whenever they visit the site, the map shows them just the UK.I checked it (from other random computers, not my laptop) when I was in Thailand and Australia and it always showed the UK. Is the UK the default if IP

Re: [OSM-talk] Move the Map

2009-06-17 Thread Shaun McDonald
On 17 Jun 2009, at 18:17, Joe Richards wrote: One of the main annoyances that people tell me that they have with OSM is that whenever they visit the site, the map shows them just the UK. I checked it (from other random computers, not my laptop) when I was in Thailand and Australia and it

Re: [OSM-talk] Move the Map

2009-06-17 Thread Eric Wolf
It's just the Brits trying to re-establish their imperial dominance over the world. On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 12:07 PM, Shaun McDonald sh...@shaunmcdonald.me.ukwrote: On 17 Jun 2009, at 18:17, Joe Richards wrote: One of the main annoyances that people tell me that they have with OSM is that

[OSM-talk] import refuse !

2009-06-17 Thread Stéphane Brunner
Hello ! I just have an import failure. this is just because my holux m-241 with mtkbable returns me points like this : trkpt lat=nan lon=nan elenan/ele time1969-08-02T00:22:53Z/time /trkpt Invalid coordinate is ignored than invalid points like this should also be ignore ? Than where can I

Re: [OSM-talk] Move the Map

2009-06-17 Thread Peter Childs
2009/6/17 Eric Wolf ebw...@gmail.com: It's just the Brits trying to re-establish their imperial dominance over the world. On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 12:07 PM, Shaun McDonald sh...@shaunmcdonald.me.uk wrote: On 17 Jun 2009, at 18:17, Joe Richards wrote: One of the main annoyances that people

Re: [OSM-talk] Move the Map

2009-06-17 Thread Tom Chance
On Wednesday 17 Jun 2009 19:19:20 Eric Wolf wrote: It's just the Brits trying to re-establish their imperial dominance over the world. I'll submit a suggestion on trac for the appropriate changes to the stylesheets: http://tinyurl.com/ns8852 Regards, Tom

Re: [OSM-talk] Lake Cowichan Now loaded (more of sample 092c area)

2009-06-17 Thread Sam Vekemans
Answered below, Twitter: @Acrosscanada Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/sam.vekemans On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 4:57 AM, Marc Schütz schue...@gmx.net wrote: I think the definitions really don't belong in the the data -- perhaps if you want to see them, your browser should look them up in

Re: [OSM-talk] full history of a way?

2009-06-17 Thread SteveC
On 14 Jun 2009, at 01:49, Frederik Ramm wrote: Hi, There are no full history dumps currently - having such dump would enable this type of query quite easily. I am sure we will have them at some point in time. Well, there could be slight problem with pre-0.6 data (no order in relations)

Re: [OSM-talk] Lake Cowichan Now loaded (more of sample 092c area)

2009-06-17 Thread andrzej zaborowski
2009/6/17 Sam Vekemans acrosscanadatra...@gmail.com: Answered below, Twitter: @Acrosscanada Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/sam.vekemans On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 4:57 AM, Marc Schütz schue...@gmx.net wrote: I think the definitions really don't belong in the the data -- perhaps if you

[OSM-talk] SOTM 08 videos

2009-06-17 Thread SteveC
Hi Linked off of stateofthemap.org are the SOTM '08 videos: http://blog.signal2noise.ie/~eason/sotm08/ But they're incomplete and super, super, super slow to load. So does anyone know if the rest will be put up? And, can anyone mirror them somewhere useful? Best Steve

Re: [OSM-talk] SOTM 08 videos

2009-06-17 Thread Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 8:46 PM, SteveCst...@asklater.com wrote: Hi Linked off of stateofthemap.org are the SOTM '08 videos:        http://blog.signal2noise.ie/~eason/sotm08/ But they're incomplete and super, super, super slow to load. So does anyone know if the rest will be put up?

Re: [OSM-talk] Lake Cowichan Now loaded (more of sample 092c area)

2009-06-17 Thread andrzej zaborowski
2009/6/18 Alan Millar a...@bolis.com: There's a 1:1 correspondence between the value of amenity= and the value of canvec:value_definition= so one of them should be removed. There's a 1:1 correspondence between the value of canvec:entity= and the value of canvec:entity_definition= so one of

Re: [OSM-talk] Lake Cowichan Now loaded (more of sample 092c area)

2009-06-17 Thread Lester Caine
andrzej zaborowski wrote: If you had read the message to which you were responding though you would notice I'm not suggesting the canvec tag be removed, from which the osm tag was derived, just the second canvec tag that contains a textual, english language definition of the first tag. On

Re: [talk-au] How to map out streets the most efficently

2009-06-17 Thread James Livingston
On 16/06/2009, at 1:08 AM, Delta Foxtrot wrote: Now does anyone have suggestions on how to basically drive the entire town the most efficiently with the minimal amount of overlap, or how does one plan such a feat. There's a nice mathematical algorithm for figuring out that. All you need

Re: [talk-au] How to map out streets the most efficently

2009-06-17 Thread James Livingston
On 16/06/2009, at 1:52 PM, Liz wrote: On Tue, 16 Jun 2009, Delta Foxtrot wrote: Most likely I'll be returning via a different direction, I don't particularlly like going out west, there is whole lots of nothing inbetween a few somethings. OSM makes you look for somethings out there

Re: [talk-au] Newbie - Landuse and Administrative Boundary

2009-06-17 Thread Liz
On Wed, 17 Jun 2009, Rick Peterson wrote: Hi Folks, I’m a newcomer to the OSM project with a couple of questions. BACKGROUND: Welcome Rick. Perhaps if we give the history of the changes you will understand how the boundaries work. In the beginning was the void. On the first day some

Re: [talk-au] How to map out streets the most efficently

2009-06-17 Thread Delta Foxtrot
--- On Wed, 17/6/09, Liz ed...@billiau.net wrote: It's a problem given to all computer science students to solve: the travelling salesman. The more points to cover, the more processing power it uses which makes the way the human brain can solve those problems really cool. The

Re: [talk-au] Hi all ...

2009-06-17 Thread Delta Foxtrot
--- On Wed, 17/6/09, Dan O'Hara oha...@homemail.com.au wrote: I have two immediate questions (actually I have a lot but these have been preying on my mind as a result of my breach).  When you go to an attraction, be it an outdoor winery/farm tour or say, fun park or caravan park, are the

Re: [talk-au] Hi all ...

2009-06-17 Thread Delta Foxtrot
--- On Wed, 17/6/09, Ross Scanlon i...@4x4falcon.com wrote: See if the way has a source tag if it does and this is other than survey or gps then it's generally fair game to move it. There is more ways than I care to count that are marked as survey that were poorly traced. I don't have a

Re: [talk-au] Hi all ...

2009-06-17 Thread Ross Scanlon
JOSM can do all this offline and you don't have to upload the gps trace to the osm server before editing it. It is easy to use and for major work is better than potlatch. Have a read here: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Comparison_of_editors Best of all if it doesn't look right don't

Re: [talk-au] How to map out streets the most efficently

2009-06-17 Thread Andy Owen
On Wed, 2009-06-17 at 19:27 +1000, Liz wrote: On Wed, 17 Jun 2009, James Livingston wrote: There's a nice mathematical algorithm for figuring out that. It's a problem given to all computer science students to solve: the travelling salesman. The more points to cover, the more processing

[talk-au] Hi all ...

2009-06-17 Thread Dan O'Hara
Thanks for your comments everyone. More reading. Delta Foxtrot - I access OSM through GPS traces/see your traces link then edit (another person uploaded a lot of my tracks before I came to OSM but put my username in the tag so I could find and fix, do POIs, road surfaces etc). It is

Re: [talk-au] Hi all ...

2009-06-17 Thread Darrin Smith
On Wed, 17 Jun 2009 05:30:43 -0700 (PDT) Delta Foxtrot delta_foxt...@yahoo.com wrote: I don't have a problem with uploading gps traces to osm but I can see no benifit if I'm just going to edit them in josm anyway and given that they are all one second data that's a lot of data to put on

Re: [talk-au] Hi all ...

2009-06-17 Thread Delta Foxtrot
--- On Wed, 17/6/09, Dan O'Hara oha...@homemail.com.au wrote: Delta Foxtrot – I access OSM through “GPS traces/see your traces” link then “edit” (another person uploaded a lot of my tracks before I came to OSM but put my username in the tag so I could find and “fix”, do POIs, road surfaces

Re: [talk-au] Hi all ...

2009-06-17 Thread Stephen Hope
I've ever used Potlatch-I was nervous about having an editor that was always live - no 'edit-check-save' cycle. I understand that has recently changed, but the point is it's not that hard to use some of the other options. Stephen 2009/6/17 Dan O'Hara oha...@homemail.com.au: As a total newbie to

Re: [talk-au] Hi all ...

2009-06-17 Thread Stephen Hope
Sorry- that should be _Never_ used potlatch 2009/6/18 Stephen Hope slh...@gmail.com: I've ever used Potlatch-I was nervous about having an editor that was always live - no 'edit-check-save' cycle. I understand that has recently changed, but the point is it's not that hard to use some of the

Re: [talk-au] Uploading traces (Was; Hi all ...)

2009-06-17 Thread Ross Scanlon
Secondly, come the day when MegaMap Inc, decide to sue OSM, due to a part of the map looking suspiciously derived from MegaMap's products, the existance of GPS traces in OSM may assist greatly in defending against that threat. Also a good reason to use simplified gpx tracks from JOSM as then

Re: [talk-au] Hi all ...

2009-06-17 Thread Delta Foxtrot
--- On Wed, 17/6/09, Ross Scanlon i...@4x4falcon.com wrote: Why should I.  No where in osm does it state that a GPX file has to be uploaded. You don't have to upload anything to OSM, but you should if you care for the accuracy of the information you'll upload the gpx files which will give

Re: [talk-au] Hi all ...

2009-06-17 Thread Ross Scanlon
Who said I was trivialising the problems, I only gave an example I can think of at least 50 possible errors when using gps.  I'm not going to list every possibility every time I make a comment. If you make specific claims then people will assume that's all you had in mind. What specific

Re: [talk-au] Uploading traces (Was; Hi all ...)

2009-06-17 Thread Ross Scanlon
--- On Wed, 17/6/09, Ross Scanlon i...@4x4falcon.com wrote: Generally it was directed at the comment should upload , made without anything to back it up and also rhetorical.  Just because some think they should be uploaded does not mean everyone wants, or has, to. Should doesn't

[talk-au] Data Error - Junctions ?

2009-06-17 Thread Rick Peterson
Hello again talk-au, I'm new to editing in the OSM project and before I start making significant changes to another's work, I thought I should check with people more experienced with the project to make sure I'm correct. Background: I was having a look at my local area with Keepright and

Re: [talk-au] Uploading traces (Was; Hi all ...)

2009-06-17 Thread Delta Foxtrot
--- On Wed, 17/6/09, Ross Scanlon i...@4x4falcon.com wrote: No kidding, I'm well aware of the difference betweend should and must. You keep implying must when I've said should. You did not say anything about the greater good and I've yet to see any reason that it is for the greater good.

Re: [talk-au] Data Error - Junctions ?

2009-06-17 Thread Ross Scanlon
you will see that none of the junctions for side roads are correctly joined to Luttrell Street. This problem appears to be repeated across the area generally.br They should be joined with nodes at the junctions for all junctions, T or cross roads. It does not make much difference to the

Re: [talk-au] Uploading traces (Was; Hi all ...)

2009-06-17 Thread Delta Foxtrot
--- On Wed, 17/6/09, Delta Foxtrot delta_foxt...@yahoo.com wrote: Unless you have better than consumer grade kit you won't be consistently getting within 2m of accuracy all the time, and I think that sums the argument up right there, you're assuming you will. Let me re-phrase... The main

Re: [talk-au] Uploading traces (Was; Hi all ...)

2009-06-17 Thread Ross Scanlon
--- On Wed, 17/6/09, Ross Scanlon i...@4x4falcon.com wrote: No kidding, I'm well aware of the difference betweend should and must. You keep implying must when I've said should. No i'm not implying must. I asked why SHOULD we be uploading them. You did not say anything about the greater

Re: [talk-au] Data Error - Junctions ?

2009-06-17 Thread Rick Peterson
Delta Foxtrot wrote: Because they aren't joined, Hi Delta, thanks for the reply. Because they aren't joined is exactly the reason they should show in Keepright IMO, although I take your point about false postives with service roads etc. >From Keepright: "almost-junctions Streets

Re: [talk-au] Uploading traces (Was; Hi all ...)

2009-06-17 Thread Delta Foxtrot
--- On Wed, 17/6/09, Ross Scanlon i...@4x4falcon.com wrote: The greater good is supported by the end product not by data (GPX files) that, although supports the end product, is not shown in the final map or routing solutions. We were always told to show our working out in school for a

Re: [talk-au] Data Error - Junctions ?

2009-06-17 Thread Stephen Hope
2009/6/18 Rick Peterson ausr...@iinet.net.au: Background: I was having a look at my local area with Keepright and spotted a couple of dead ended one ways. On close inspection in Potlatch, I see that the junctions have not been formed correctly. The layout of the streets, street names etc all

Re: [talk-au] Uploading traces (Was; Hi all ...)

2009-06-17 Thread Ross Scanlon
If the data was challenged that I entered then osm can contact me for the original data.  In the meantime why are we filling up storage on osm with data that is not producing the final product ie the map. Why do I need to challenge you to prove what you did was correct, if the GPX

Re: [talk-au] Uploading traces (Was; Hi all ...)

2009-06-17 Thread John Smith
--- On Thu, 18/6/09, Ross Scanlon i...@4x4falcon.com wrote: How do I take your word for it when you use an anonymous mail address and don't sign your name to any email. Just because you used a less common alias, how do I even know the name you supply is true? In reality it doesn't actually

Re: [talk-au] How many points are too few to upload?

2009-06-17 Thread Ross Scanlon
the other hand you can get 10,000+ point files being uploaded as well and I need to run gpsbabel over the file before uploading it. Does anyone know if this is a good filter to use against gpx files? gpsbabel -i gpx -f test -x simplify,crosstrack,error=0.0001k -o gpx -F test.gpx

Re: [talk-au] How many points are too few to upload?

2009-06-17 Thread John Smith
--- On Thu, 18/6/09, Peter Ross pe...@emailross.com wrote: In that case I can't help you whether it's a good idea or not. Generally I upload all my points to OSM and then let other people decide whether or not they want to filter them. I have no problem doing that, but I thought I was

Re: [talk-au] How many points are too few to upload?

2009-06-17 Thread John Smith
--- On Thu, 18/6/09, Ross Scanlon i...@4x4falcon.com wrote: Have you loaded both into josm and seen how they compare? That would give you an idication on how the filter affects the data. No I hadn't, but I'm in the process of doing it now. I was hoping for a common consensus, if there was

Re: [talk-au] Uploading traces (Was; Hi all ...)

2009-06-17 Thread Ross Scanlon
* improving routing information, by working out average speed on roads (at different times). If your connected to the internet that's fine but it's no use for on the road re-routing, unless you have all the gps traces downloaded to your gps. This should be tagged by maxspeed anyway. Some one

Re: [talk-au] How many points are too few to upload?

2009-06-17 Thread John Smith
Have you loaded both into josm and seen how they compare? For the most part they are almost identical, but there is a few small differences, although probably not enough that most people would worry about, but the bigger question is how OSM stores them, if they compress the files the

Re: [talk-au] Uploading traces (Was; Hi all ...)

2009-06-17 Thread John Smith
--- On Thu, 18/6/09, Ross Scanlon i...@4x4falcon.com wrote: We have to trust that osm's are putting in accurate data but from what I've seen the data already there is miles better than google maps particularly in rural Australia. The benefit of collecting fresh data, so knowing rought times

Re: [talk-au] How to map out streets the most efficently

2009-06-17 Thread John Smith
--- On Wed, 17/6/09, Andy Owen andy-...@ultra-premium.com wrote: (oh, and someone suggested that if the roads were all in a grid, you could do smart things to take into account the redundancy, and just zig-zag through, knowing you can extrapolate later... I don't know of any algorithms

Re: [Talk-br] Tradução para o Português

2009-06-17 Thread Vitor George
Mandei! Parece que existe um script para editar as traduções via web, mas não sei se está funcionando: http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/dev/2009-June/015824.html 2009/6/17 Samuel Vale srcv...@minaslivre.org Em Ter, 2009-06-16 às 14:08 -0300, Vitor George escreveu: Amigos, O

Re: [Talk-de] neue Version des OSM-A-FINDER

2009-06-17 Thread Michael Buchberger
Hi Tobias, neue Version, bitte ausprobieren: http://openstreetmap.tobwen.de/osm-a-finder/query.php die Version hat bei mir Probleme mit Umlauten! Suche nach Köln und ich bekomme keinen Treffer. Auch bei der Trefferanzeige werden Umlaute als Raute mit einem Fragezeichen angezeigt. Tschuess

Re: [Talk-de] neue Version des OSM-A-FINDER

2009-06-17 Thread Aussem, Thomas
Hi Tobias,neue Version, bitte ausprobieren:http://openstreetmap.tobwen.de/osm-a-finder/query.phpdie Version hat bei mir Probleme mit Umlauten!Suche nach Köln und ich bekomme keinen Treffer. Ist vielleicht ein Problem mit Köln ;-) Da eine Suche z.B.nach Düren, Düsseldorf und Königswinter

Re: [Talk-de] forest wood und Layer

2009-06-17 Thread Martin Simon
Am 17. Juni 2009 04:31 schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com: Zu allem Übel scheint es auch so, als sei forest im Englischen eher das Wort für einen richtigen Wald, während Wood eher was kleineres oder lichteres ist :( So benutze ich es auch mittlerweile - landuse=forest ist ein

Re: [Talk-de] forest wood und Layer

2009-06-17 Thread Marc Schütz
Zu der Problematik landuse in landuse u.ä. ist hier vor kurzem ein Ticket aufgemacht worden: http://trac.openstreetmap.org/ticket/1953 Grüße, Marc -- GRATIS für alle GMX-Mitglieder: Die maxdome Movie-FLAT! Jetzt freischalten unter http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/maxdome01

[Talk-de] Nordpol auf dem Aequator?

2009-06-17 Thread Sebastian Waschik
Hallo, hatte vor 12 Tagen auf http://www.openstreetmap.org/?mlat=0.6mlon=0.3zoom=14 gesehen (Mapnik). Habe mal kurz in den Datenlayer geschaut und nichts gesehen. Heute steht das immer noch da. Außerdem wird, wenn man näher hineinzoomt ein P dagestellt. Habe heute noch einmal in der

[Talk-de] Radiointerviews heute 17h: Podcast ü ber OSM

2009-06-17 Thread Lulu-Ann
Hallo Listen, heute, am Mittwoch, 17. Juni 2009 wird beim Fnordfunk eine Sendung über OpenStreetMap ausgestrahlt. Titel: Fnordfunk 040: Freie Landkarten mit OpenStreetMap Zeit: 17 bis 19 Uhr. Im Anschluß kann die Sendung als Podcast in den Formaten .mp3 und .ogg aufgerufen werden.

Re: [Talk-de] forest wood und Layer

2009-06-17 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am 17. Juni 2009 12:19 schrieb Marc Schütz schue...@gmx.net: Zu der Problematik landuse in landuse u.ä. ist hier vor kurzem ein Ticket aufgemacht worden: http://trac.openstreetmap.org/ticket/1953 wobei das hier m.E. nicht relevant ist, da parks kein landuse sind (bei OSM), sondern leisure.

[Talk-de] Allgemeines Datenproblem? Re: Nordpol auf dem Aequator?

2009-06-17 Thread Heiko Jacobs
Sebastian Waschik schrieb: hatte vor 12 Tagen auf http://www.openstreetmap.org/?mlat=0.6mlon=0.3zoom=14 gesehen (Mapnik). Es gibt da bspw. http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/269538499/history Habe mal kurz in den Datenlayer geschaut und nichts gesehen. Der obige liegt ja auch

Re: [Talk-de] forest wood und Layer

2009-06-17 Thread Marc Schütz
Zu der Problematik landuse in landuse u.ä. ist hier vor kurzem ein Ticket aufgemacht worden: http://trac.openstreetmap.org/ticket/1953 wobei das hier m.E. nicht relevant ist, da parks kein landuse sind (bei OSM), sondern leisure. Doch, das passt schon. Ich hätte es nur allgemeiner

Re: [Talk-de] forest wood und Layer

2009-06-17 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am 17. Juni 2009 13:44 schrieb Marc Schütz schue...@gmx.net: Zu der Problematik landuse in landuse u.ä. ist hier vor kurzem ein Ticket aufgemacht worden: http://trac.openstreetmap.org/ticket/1953 wobei das hier m.E. nicht relevant ist, da parks kein landuse sind (bei OSM), sondern leisure.

Re: [Talk-de] Allgemeines Datenproblem? Nordpol auf dem Aequator?

2009-06-17 Thread Dirk Stöcker
On Wed, 17 Jun 2009, Heiko Jacobs wrote: Der obige liegt ja auch etwas weiter im Norden... Was passiert denn mit Daten in OSM mit Breiten 85 oder -85? (Und Längen 180 oder -180 ...) (Soweit scheint OSM definiert... Wie mappen wir denn bloß Antarctica City, wenn die Klimakatastrophe vollends

Re: [Talk-de] Proposal: access-Tags mit Bedingungen

2009-06-17 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am 17. Juni 2009 00:03 schrieb Tobias Knerr o...@tobias-knerr.de: Na ja, nachdem sich hier wohl sonst niemand mehr zu Wort melden wird, habe ich mal eine Komplettversion aus den Einzelbestandteilen der bisherigen Proposals erstellt und einen Poll zur Klammersyntax eingestellt.

Re: [Talk-de] neue Version des OSM-A-FINDER

2009-06-17 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am 16. Juni 2009 23:31 schrieb Tobias Wendorff tobias.wendo...@uni-dortmund.de: Hallo Community, neue Version, bitte ausprobieren: http://openstreetmap.tobwen.de/osm-a-finder/query.php nach dem ersten Test war ich eigentlich zufrieden: Suche nach Tubingen brachte Tübingen als erstes Ergebnis

Re: [Talk-de] Allgemeines Datenproblem? Nordpol auf dem Aequator?

2009-06-17 Thread SLXViper
Der obige liegt ja auch etwas weiter im Norden... Was passiert denn mit Daten in OSM mit Breiten 85 oder -85? (Und Längen 180 oder -180 ...) (Soweit scheint OSM definiert... Wie mappen wir denn bloß Antarctica City, wenn die Klimakatastrophe vollends zuschlug? ;-) ) Mappen kannst Du es

[Talk-de] Ladezeiten Potlatch

2009-06-17 Thread jorkh
moin, geht es nur mir so oder ist Potlatch seit ein paar Tagen gehandicapt? Die Ladezeiten sind echt nervig und dann fehlt oft noch die Hälfte. VG Jörk ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de

Re: [Talk-de] highway unclassified

2009-06-17 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
OK, nachdem hier kein Widerspruch kam, habe ich den Wikieintrag für unclassified jetzt mal hinsichtlich der Sammelstraßen angepasst und gebe das hier bekannt, auf das die Klagen massenhaft auf mich einströmen (hoffentlich nicht):

Re: [Talk-de] Allgemeines Datenproblem? Nordpol auf dem Aequator?

2009-06-17 Thread Dirk Stöcker
On Wed, 17 Jun 2009, SLXViper wrote: Mappen kannst Du es ganz normal. Nur die Karten müssen dann entsprechend angepasst werden. Und die Editoren auch. Das ist ein grundsätzliches mathematisches Problem bei der Verwendung der Mercator-Projektion. Wenn man sich einmal die Berechnungsformel für

[Talk-de] Straßenverzeichnis Recklinghausen

2009-06-17 Thread Tobias Wendorff
Hallo Community, kann das bitte jemand an die Recklinghausener weiterleiten, falls die einen eigenen Talk haben? Das Amtliches Straßenverzeichnis der Stadt Recklinghausen gibt es als PDF für eine Gebühr über 4,50 EUR über susanne.schu...@recklinghausen.de Grüße Tobias

Re: [Talk-de] OSM für Gewässernutzer

2009-06-17 Thread Markus
Hallo Stephan, Danke dass Du dieses Thema aufgreifst! Über die Kennzeichnung der Uferlinie habe ich mir ein paar Gedanken gemacht. _natural=coastline_ Ja, nur wenn die Küstenlinie und Flussufer genauer attributiert wird, weiss ich, ob ich dort mein Kajak ins Wasser bringen kann (ob mit einer

Re: [Talk-de] Ortsnamen

2009-06-17 Thread Markus
Hallo Johannes, Lösungsansätze waren: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/de:Anzeige_von_Städten Die Tabelle ist zu groß, um sie im Wiki zu pflegen Ich kann Dir die Excel-Tabelle gern schicken. Mit einem VBA-Makro kannst Du daraus nach den Änderungen eine wikitable erzeugen und diese wieder

Re: [Talk-de] OSM für Gewässernutzer

2009-06-17 Thread Falk Zscheile
Moin. Am 17. Juni 2009 17:42 schrieb Markus liste12a4...@gmx.de: Ja, nur wenn die Küstenlinie und Flussufer genauer attributiert wird, weiss ich, ob ich dort mein Kajak ins Wasser bringen kann (ob mit einer klassischen Paddelstütze, oder eher mit Weitwurf und Hinterherspringen, oder besser

Re: [Talk-de] Straßenverzeichnis Recklinghausen

2009-06-17 Thread Florian Lohoff
On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 04:22:28PM +0200, Tobias Wendorff wrote: Subject: [Talk-de] Straßenverzeichnis Recklinghausen Hallo Community, kann das bitte jemand an die Recklinghausener weiterleiten, falls die einen eigenen Talk haben? Das Amtliches Straßenverzeichnis der Stadt

[Talk-de] Straßenlistenauswertung (update)

2009-06-17 Thread Florian Lohoff
Hi, es hat sich wieder viel getan - da ich mir nicht wirklich aufschreibe was so dabei kommt unterschlage ich bestimmt auch wieder einiges - Hier das was mir noch haengen geblieben ist - Anfaenge einzelner Kreise - Ein paar Kreisfreie Staedte und ansonsten viele einzelne Listen und einzelne

Re: [Talk-de] Straßenverzeichnis Recklinghausen

2009-06-17 Thread Tobias Wendorff
Florian Lohoff schrieb: Die habe ich verarbeitet und werte anhand dessen aus - Die zusammengefuehrte liste ist das hier: [snip] Kannst Du bitte bei der Gelegenheit die Spaces / Tabs aus der Werler Liste rauswerfen? http://osm.gt.owl.de/Strassenliste/Werl/list.txt Achja ... die Mellinstrasse

Re: [Talk-de] OSM für Gewässernutzer

2009-06-17 Thread Markus
Hallo Falk, schön - noch ein Seefahrer! Kaikante: man_made=quay zusätzlich zu natural=coastline Das finde ich eine gute Idee. Mit material=... kann man noch genauer spezifizieren: natural=coastline + man_made=quai + material=concrete|masonry|boulder|tripode|steel|wood Wenn der Kai

Re: [Talk-de] OSM für Gewässernutzer

2009-06-17 Thread Markus
Hallo Falk, Kopierfehler... Richtig ist: Mole: man_made=mole ? Auch das finde ich eine gute Idee. Nach dem selben Muster: natural=coastline + man_made=mole + material=concrete|masonry|boulder|tripode|steel|wood und wenn Anlegestelle: natural=coastline + man_made=mole + mooring=yes Der

Re: [Talk-de] Straßenverzeichnis Recklinghausen

2009-06-17 Thread Florian Lohoff
On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 07:37:53PM +0200, Tobias Wendorff wrote: Florian Lohoff schrieb: Die habe ich verarbeitet und werte anhand dessen aus - Die zusammengefuehrte liste ist das hier: [snip] Kannst Du bitte bei der Gelegenheit die Spaces / Tabs aus der Werler Liste rauswerfen?

Re: [Talk-de] Ortsnamen

2009-06-17 Thread Johannes Hüsing
Markus schrieb: Hallo Johannes, Lösungsansätze waren: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/de:Anzeige_von_Städten Die Tabelle ist zu groß, um sie im Wiki zu pflegen Ich kann Dir die Excel-Tabelle gern schicken. Das ist sehr freundlich von Dir, aber wenig Wiki-gemäß.

Re: [Talk-de] Proposal: access-Tags mit Bedingungen

2009-06-17 Thread Guenther Meyer
Am Mittwoch 17 Juni 2009 schrieb Tobias Knerr: Guenther Meyer schrieb: alle verbotszeichen die ich kenne, und jemals gesehen habe, und mit gewichten zu tun haben, sprechn von gewichten über dem angegeben wert. genau so bei laengen-, breiten, und hoehenbeschraenkungen. wenn also sowieso

Re: [Talk-de] Ortsnamen

2009-06-17 Thread Markus
Hallo Johannes, Dürfen wir die Einwohnerzahl übernehmen? Keine Ahnung, ich verstehe nichts von Lizenzen. Die Zahlen stammen aus Wikipedia. Da unsere beiden Projekte intensiv gegenseitig Daten nutzen und unter derselben Lizenz stehen, vermute ich mal dass das kein Problem ist. Noch besser

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