Re: [Talk-hr] Vezano za danasnji dan...

2012-11-17 Thread Ivan Delac
goranrac...@gmail.com napisa: Da li je to slucajnost, ili nesto drugo? To je šala. U istom changesetu je stavio još neke nepostojeće ulice. ___ Talk-hr mailing list Talk-hr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-hr

[OSM-talk] public_transport=platform not rendered

2012-11-17 Thread Jo
Hi, In April 2011 a new schema was approved for tagging bus stops. I've been holding off for 1,5 years, but now I started to retag highway=bus_stop to public_transport=platform. The stops don't get rendered anymore though. Do I have to go back and readd highway=bus_stop to all of them, or will

Re: [OSM-talk] public_transport=platform not rendered

2012-11-17 Thread Roland Olbricht
Hi, In April 2011 a new schema was approved for tagging bus stops. I've been holding off for 1,5 years, but now I started to retag highway=bus_stop to public_transport=platform. Please see https://help.openstreetmap.org/questions/14628/where-should-i-tag-

Re: [OSM-talk] public_transport=platform not rendered

2012-11-17 Thread Philip Barnes
To tag bus stops as platform surely requires a survey? Tram stops tend to have platforms, as of course do railway stations of course. Bus stops are normally flat however. Phil -- Sent from my Nokia N9 On 17/11/2012 8:14 Jo wrote: Hi, In April 2011 a new schema was approved for tagging

Re: [OSM-talk] public_transport=platform not rendered

2012-11-17 Thread Tobias Knerr
On 17.11.2012 09:30, Roland Olbricht wrote: Retagging by hand does not help. Retagging by script is vandalism and has kindled all kinds of conflicts in the community and is, when detected, reverted. Please do not retag. Remember: the wiki is not normaitve, even less after years without change.

Re: [OSM-talk] public_transport=platform not rendered

2012-11-17 Thread Tobias Knerr
On 17.11.2012 10:15, Philip Barnes wrote: To tag bus stops as platform surely requires a survey? Tram stops tend to have platforms, as of course do railway stations of course. Bus stops are normally flat however. I think you are reading the public_transport=platform tag too literally. It

[OSM-talk] Problem with an Etrex 20

2012-11-17 Thread Sébastien Pierrel
Greetings from Burundi, we have an issue with one of the Etrex20 of the Eurosha Burundi team. It's not recognized by any computer. When connected to the USB port, the device is powered through USB but doesn't enter mass storage mode. In the system setup menu, I can change the USB mode between

Re: [OSM-talk] Problem with an Etrex 20

2012-11-17 Thread Andrew Errington
On Sat, 17 Nov 2012 19:04:22 Sébastien Pierrel wrote: Greetings from Burundi, we have an issue with one of the Etrex20 of the Eurosha Burundi team. It's not recognized by any computer. When connected to the USB port, the device is powered through USB but doesn't enter mass storage mode. In

Re: [OSM-talk] public_transport=platform not rendered

2012-11-17 Thread Jo
If there is an actual platform, I tend to create way for it. Until now I added both highway=platform and public_transport=platform to them. As far as I'm concerned, that's tagging for the renderer though. I could, of course, add both highway=bus_stop and public_transport=platform to the 4

Re: [OSM-talk] public_transport=platform not rendered

2012-11-17 Thread Peter Wendorff
Hi. While I can see that there's the change from highway=bus_stop to public_transport=platform documented in the wiki, I did not follow that process when it happened, I think, but: How is the fact tagged that any particular platform is a bus stop, and not e.g. a tram platform? Do we really

Re: [OSM-talk] public_transport=platform not rendered

2012-11-17 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am 17/nov/2012 um 10:30 schrieb Tobias Knerr o...@tobias-knerr.de: I think you are reading the public_transport=platform tag too literally. It merely denotes the place where passengers are waiting for the transportation vehicle. It does not distinguish between flat and raised structures.

Re: [OSM-talk] public_transport=platform not rendered

2012-11-17 Thread Ed Loach
I'd rather deprecate platform for busses if anything. One of the problems with the bus stop tag, and hoping I don't reopen old arguments, is that due to a mistranslation in the wiki in the dim and distant past many people have tagged bus stops as nodes on the way where the bus stops, when they

Re: [OSM-talk] public_transport=platform not rendered

2012-11-17 Thread Jo
The discussion/argument needs to be had anyway, so that is not a bad thing. I also liked that public transport is in its own namespace now. To keep things simple it's probably a good thing that we don't have a separate public_transport=pole or public_transport=flag. I don't mark all the stop

Re: [OSM-talk] public_transport=platform not rendered

2012-11-17 Thread Paul Norman
From: Ed Loach [mailto:e...@loach.me.uk] Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] public_transport=platform not rendered I'd rather deprecate platform for busses if anything. One of the problems with the bus stop tag, and hoping I don't reopen old arguments, is that due to a mistranslation in the wiki in

Re: [Talk-de] Straßenbeleuchtung (lit=yes)

2012-11-17 Thread Peter Wendorff
Am 16.11.2012 23:28, schrieb RalfGesellensetter: Am Donnerstag, 15. November 2012 schrieb Robert S.: Auch bei max_speed ist es empfohlen, die Gültigkeit des Defaultwertes explizit zu erfassen (source:maxspeed=*). Hallo, das war mir schon klar, und natürlich würde es die Datenbank auch immens

Re: [Talk-de] Straßenbeleuchtung (lit=yes)

2012-11-17 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 11/16/2012 11:28 PM, RalfGesellensetter wrote: Werden auch schon einzelne Straßenlaternen gemappt? Hab ich hier fuer ein paar Strassen in meiner direkten Umgebung gemacht. Ist ziemlich viel Arbeit - mal haengen die Lampen ueber der Strasse, mal stehen sie auf der Seite, sind von

Re: [Talk-de] key start_date

2012-11-17 Thread Ronnie Soak
Am 17. November 2012 02:12 schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com: -1, wenn das Gebäude und das Geschäft darin dasselbe Objekt in OSM sind, dann ist was schief gegangen und spätestens in dem Moment wo man das Baujahr einträgt sollte man die 2 sauber trennen, z.b. indem man für

Re: [Talk-de] key start_date

2012-11-17 Thread Marcus Koenig
-1, wenn das Gebäude und das Geschäft darin dasselbe Objekt in OSM sind, dann ist was schief gegangen und spätestens in dem Moment wo man das Baujahr einträgt sollte man die 2 sauber trennen, z.b. indem man für das Geschäft eine Multipolygonrelation erstellt, oder notfalls einen Node

Re: [Talk-de] key start_date

2012-11-17 Thread Ronnie Soak
Am 17. November 2012 11:54 schrieb Marcus Koenig einschmel...@hotmail.com: start_date:Bezugs-key skaliert zwar hübsch, vergrößert aber mal eben key-Namensraum auf das doppelte. (Oder dreifache, wenn wir das auch für end_date machen.) Das sehen hier einige wahrscheinlich nicht so gerne. Ist

Re: [Talk-de] Detailmapping

2012-11-17 Thread Michael Kugelmann
Am 16.11.2012 14:48, schrieb tumsi: Ich bin gerade auf einen Fall von außerordentlichem Detailmapping gestossen [1]: Gartenwege, Grundstücksbegrenzungen durch Zäune und Hecken, Garagenauffahrten, kleine Gartnteiche etc. das ist so aber auch in real vorhanden (AKA ground truth) = was ist daran

Re: [Talk-de] Detailmapping

2012-11-17 Thread Michael Kugelmann
Am 16.11.2012 22:25, schrieb Lars Schimmer: Streitthema - Pool im Garten, auf Bing! erkennbar, man hört ihn manchmal, direkt sehen kann man ihn dank Hecke/Zaun ned. Ich hab ihn eingetragen. Mit access=private. passt für mich sehr gut! Was man irgendwie sehen/erkennen kann (und sei es aus einem

Re: [Talk-de] key start_date

2012-11-17 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am 17/nov/2012 um 11:39 schrieb Ronnie Soak chaoschaos0...@googlemail.com: Allerdings hat der start_date key das Problem, dass er diese Uneindeutigkeit bei fast jedem Key-Paar erzeugt. amenity=pub; wheelchair=yes - start_date = Wann die Kneipe eröffnet wurde oder seit wann die

Re: [Talk-de] Straßenbeleuchtung (lit=yes)

2012-11-17 Thread Florian Lohoff
Hi, On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 11:28:50PM +0100, RalfGesellensetter wrote: Aus der Sicht eines Mappers wäre es einfacher, bei Wohnstraßen lit=yes als Default, bei anderen Straßen umgekehrt anzunehmen, aber das ist dann eher eine Frage der Auswertung, da stimme ich Ronnie und auch Peter zu.

[Talk-de] JOSM: Einzelnes Objekt anhand Koordinaten einfügen

2012-11-17 Thread Harald
Hi, ich meine mich zu erinnern, dass es in JOSM möglich ist, ein einzelnes Objekt gezielt anhand der per GPS ermittelten Koordinaten einzufügen, finde das aber nicht mehr im Programm. Habe auch schon vergeblich rumgestöbertund stehe mir wohl selbst auf dem Schlauch. Könnte mir mal jemand

Re: [Talk-de] JOSM: Einzelnes Objekt anhand Koordinaten einfügen

2012-11-17 Thread OSM
Moin, Am 18.11.2012 01:39, schrieb Harald: ich meine mich zu erinnern, dass es in JOSM möglich ist, ein einzelnes Objekt gezielt anhand der per GPS ermittelten Koordinaten einzufügen Nodes: Werkzeuge - Punkt verschieben Objekte: Mit Erweiterung utilsplugin2: Werkzeuge2 -

Re: [Talk-it] wherecamp.eu a ROMA :)

2012-11-17 Thread Fabri
Una bella notizia! Sul blog hanno scritto porta futura invece di porta futuro...ma il link al sito è giusto. In caso mappo un po' più dettagliatamente la zona e poi gli diciamo di mettere la mappa osm ;) On ven 16 nov 2012 15:38:22 CET, Maurizio Napolitano napoo...@gmail.com wrote: Sono

[Talk-co] Más cobertura de fotos para el Tolima con Bing

2012-11-17 Thread Igor TAmara
Hola, en [1] hay fotos de más resolución para agregar las vías y otros accidentes geográficos como ríos y quebradas. 1.http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/13906060 Como nota al margen, conocen algún servicio que esté proyectando sobre el mapa los polígonos hires=yes ? creo que esa es

Re: [Talk-dk] FYI - OpenStreetMap omtalt i Danske Kommuner Nyhedsmagasinet

2012-11-17 Thread Peter Brodersen
Der er i øvrigt en teaser her: http://www.kl.dk/Om-KL/Fejl-i-1800-vejnavne-id113713/ - Peter Brodersen (som dog ikke står bag find.dk) 2012/11/16 Soren Johannessen soren.johannes...@gmail.com: Hej alle De har flyttet linket bag en betalingsvæg i løbet af dagen - Jeg har så lavet et dump i

[Talk-se] Svenska kommuner

2012-11-17 Thread Joakim Fors
Hejsan! Har uppdaterat skriptet som är tänkt att uppdatera datan i kommun-relationerna. Ny funktion, efter förfrågan, är att kopiera över KNKOD till ref och ref:scb om dessa redan inte finns. Denna ändring görs i ett eget changeset. Källkoden finns här:

Re: [Talk-se] Svenska kommuner

2012-11-17 Thread Markus Lindholm
2012/11/17 Joakim Fors joa...@joakimfors.org Hejsan! Har uppdaterat skriptet som är tänkt att uppdatera datan i kommun-relationerna. Ny funktion, efter förfrågan, är att kopiera över KNKOD till ref och ref:scb om dessa redan inte finns. Denna ändring görs i ett eget changeset. Källkoden

Re: [Talk-se] Svenska kommuner

2012-11-17 Thread Joakim Fors
On 17 nov 2012, at 13:38, Markus Lindholm markus.lindh...@gmail.com wrote: 2012/11/17 Joakim Fors joa...@joakimfors.org Hejsan! Har uppdaterat skriptet som är tänkt att uppdatera datan i kommun-relationerna. Ny funktion, efter förfrågan, är att kopiera över KNKOD till ref och ref:scb om

Re: [Talk-es] routing en Gipuzkoa

2012-11-17 Thread Cruz Enrique Borges
On Sábado, 17 de noviembre de 2012 01:58:52 Joseba Bolinaga escribió: Hola Gari, lo de la licencia compatible con OSM se me escapa. Yo trabajo en el servicio de bomberos de Diputación Foral de Gipuzkoa y los datos son datos shape proporcionados por el servicio de Información Territorial de

[OSM-talk-fr] Merci a tout!

2012-11-17 Thread Kathleen Danielson
Thank you so much to everyone who came out in Paris last night! It was wonderful to meet all of you, and I had a great time. I learned so much! I really appreciate how welcoming you all have been. It really was a highlight of my trip :) Au revoir! Kathleen

[OSM-talk-fr] [forum-osm-fr] Place de parking

2012-11-17 Thread forum
Le message suivant de : ## Est-il possible d'indiquer les places de parking handicapés et sur quels sites ces données seront-elles visibles ? a été posté sur le forum http://forum.openstreetmap.fr/viewforum.php?f=2 Une réponse par mail sur l'adresse d'expédition n'arrivera

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Noms de magasins supprimés

2012-11-17 Thread Fabien SK
Et il a supprimé hier à nouveau les changements de Vlad. Il n'a pas répondu à mon message datant d'une semaine non plus, que je vous mets ci-dessous: Bonjour, J'ai remarquer que cette modification a supprimé un certain nombre d'informations que j'avais entré sur des magasins (notamment des noms

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Noms de magasins supprimés

2012-11-17 Thread osm
On Wed, 14 Nov 2012 21:27:48 +0100 Christian Quest cqu...@openstreetmap.fr wrote: Hello happy taggers, Ah oui ? Il va falloir allumer le radar pour la suite alors ;) Ah, non, y'a encore des radars ? même sur OSM ? ? ? :) Ciao' -- Mathieu ___

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Noms de magasins supprimés

2012-11-17 Thread Christian Quest
Pour info j'ai ouvert un ticket à ce sujet pour le groupe GA: http://trac.openstreetmap.fr/ticket/137 -- Christian Quest - OpenStreetMap France - http://openstreetmap.fr/u/cquesthttp://openstreetmap.fr/u/christian-quest ___ Talk-fr mailing list

[OSM-ja] 国土数値情報のインポート条件整備

2012-11-17 Thread Satoshi IIDA
いいだです。 ちょっと間が開いてしまいましたが、 インポートに関するスタンスの変更をうけ、 国土数値情報のインポートについて、いちど整理したいと思います。 こんなかんじかな?というたたき台を作ってみましたので、 ご意見いただけると嬉しいです。 国内でOKがとれたら Imports MLで報告をして、 みんなが安心してデータ利用できるようにしたいです。 ■国土数値情報の元データ 変更なし http://nlftp.mlit.go.jp/ksj/gml/gml_datalist.html ■インポート用データの変換スクリプト 既に開発されているスクリプトがある場合、継続して利用可能。

Re: [OSM-ja] 国土数値情報のインポート条件整備

2012-11-17 Thread yuu hayashi
hayashiです。 国土数値情報の「バス停」データについて、 試験的にインポートデータを作って見て気がついた点を散文的にWikiに書き込んでみました。 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Import_Bus_stop_from_%E5%9B%BD%E5%9C%9F%E6%95%B0%E5%80%A4%E6%83%85%E5%A0%B1

Re: [OSM-ja] 【RFP】アイランド・マッピング企画案募集

2012-11-17 Thread Satoshi IIDA
いいだです。 Localwikiと聞いてw 伊豆大島、Bingの解像度も高めなので、そのままでも かなり細かいところまでアームチェアマッピングできる気がしています。 雲がかかっている部分が散見されるので、そこらへんがわかればもっと嬉しい、かな? Yahoo/ALPSデータもインポート済で 既に主要道路は描かれていてるようですが、 細かい道路がまだ描かれていなかったりしていますので、描くのは楽しそうです。 2012年11月12日 23:06 Hal Seki h...@georepublic.co.jp: 東さん

Re: [OSM-ja] 2013/2/22-23OSC東京での企画(Fwd: [osc:5489] [東京]OSC東京内 企画枠 来週月曜(11/19)締切です)

2012-11-17 Thread Hiroshi Miura(@osmf)
三浦です。 会場近隣の整備は進んでいるんですよねぇ。 マッピングパーティによる体験はしにくい? アームチェアマッピングだったり、技術的な話(例えば、エディターの選択や マップサーバを立てる話、アプリに利用する話)とかだと、いいんですかね。 技術者系の方々には、サーバを立てたり、アンドロイドアプリへの利用法なんてのが 受けそうですけれども、話せる方やネタを提供できる方はいますか? (2012年11月17日 10時14分06秒), Shu Higashi wrote: 来年2/22(金)-23(土)の2日間、OSC(オープンソースカンファレンス)が東京で開催されます。

Re: [Talk-GB] Talk-GB Digest, Vol 74, Issue 14

2012-11-17 Thread Fozy 81
Lots of OpenStreetMap events in Scotland over the next week or so: Pub Meet-up in Glasgow On the third Tuesday every three months (November, February, May and August we have social meetings at 7:30pm at the CCA: Centre for Contemporary Arts Everyone is welcome. This is an opportunity to meet

[Talk-GB] FW: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] December Meetup

2012-11-17 Thread Andy Robinson
Forwarding from the West Mids list. If anyone outside the area fancies joining us on Sat 1st Dec for a spot of mapping, a beer or indeed the curry in the balti triangle in Birmingham afterwards you will all be welcome. It's our midlands Christmas Do but of course we know many in the wider area

[Talk-us] Ghost suburbs

2012-11-17 Thread Charlotte Wolter
Hello, While doing the Maproulette, I came upon a large area east of El Paso (http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=31.7234lon=-106.1106zoom=13) with hundreds of neatly laid-out roads tagged residential that are only weathered tracks. Apparently, there were plans to build extensive

Re: [Talk-us] Ghost suburbs

2012-11-17 Thread Kristian M Zoerhoff
My preference has been highway=proposed proposed=residential for ghost subdivisions around Chicago. Charlotte Wolter techl...@techlady.com wrote: Hello, While doing the Maproulette, I came upon a large area east of El Paso

Re: [Talk-us] Ghost suburbs

2012-11-17 Thread Richard Welty
On 11/17/12 6:56 AM, Charlotte Wolter wrote: Hello, While doing the Maproulette, I came upon a large area east of El Paso (http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=31.7234lon=-106.1106zoom=13) with hundreds of neatly laid-out roads tagged residential that are only weathered tracks.

Re: [Talk-us] Ghost suburbs

2012-11-17 Thread Kristian M Zoerhoff
highway=track is fine if the road is open to the public, but quite often incomplete subdivisions are not. Richard Welty rwe...@averillpark.net wrote: On 11/17/12 6:56 AM, Charlotte Wolter wrote: Hello, While doing the Maproulette, I came upon a large area east of El Paso

Re: [Talk-us] Ghost suburbs

2012-11-17 Thread Richard Welty
On 11/17/12 9:34 AM, Kristian M Zoerhoff wrote: highway=track is fine if the road is open to the public, but quite often incomplete subdivisions are not. and that's why we have access=private or access=no ___ Talk-us mailing list

[Talk-us] Whole-US Garmin Map update - 2012-11-15

2012-11-17 Thread Dave Hansen
These are based off of Lambertus's work here: http://garmin.openstreetmap.nl If you have questions or comments about these maps, please feel free to ask. However, please do not send me private mail. The odds are, someone else will have the same questions, and by asking on the talk-us@

[Talk-us] Fwd: Re: Ghost suburbs

2012-11-17 Thread Charlotte Wolter
Richard, All good advice, some of which I can't do because I'm nowhere near El Paso. It looks like there's no impediment to driving on the roads, if anyone would want to. Where they empty onto a paved road, there are some smears of dirt, so someone is using them. And there don't

[Talk-us] Feature proposal: proposed expanded address tagging scheme for US

2012-11-17 Thread Steven Johnson
Hi all, Following up on an action from SotM-PDX, I've posted a proposal for expanded tagging for addresses, primarily in the US (though it may have application in other countries). The intent of the tags is to 1) improve the description of US addresses, and 2) provide greater flexibility for local