Re: [OSM-talk-be] OSM Belgian chapter as a Belgian asbl/vzw

2013-10-05 Thread Pieter Colpaert
Hi OSM, With Open Knowledge Foundation Belgium vzw we are building an umbrella organisation for Open Knowledge in Belgium. Creative Commons Belgium is a working group, the iRail initiative has become a working group (Open Transport), we have people working on open source software for open data

Re: [OSM-talk-be] fietspad of niet

2013-10-05 Thread Ben Laenen
On Friday 04 October 2013 15:39:15 Wouter Hamelinck wrote: Ik geef toe dat rendering een deel van de oorzaak is, maar het daartoe herleiden is wat te simpel. Naar mijn mening (warning: just an opinion) ligt de nadruk nu te veel op toegangsrestricties. Dit is perfect logisch in Engeland (waar

Re: [OSM-talk-be] OSM Belgian chapter as a Belgian asbl/vzw

2013-10-05 Thread Ben Abelshausen
It's just to have a legal structure in place to be able to pay for the web hosting of the osm.be website, print flyers and things like that. I have myself payed for some of these things in the past (not a lot fortunately) and it would be more convenient this way. Then there was another reason:

Re: [OSM-talk-be] OSM Belgian chapter as a Belgian asbl/vzw

2013-10-05 Thread Marc Gemis
As far as I understood the main reasons where * the domain name should belong to a group of people (an organization) not an individual * some organizations (e.g. Crib) are willing to donate money to an organization, but not to individuals. This money could be used to pay for the domain name,

Re: [OSM-talk-be] OSM Belgian chapter as a Belgian asbl/vzw

2013-10-05 Thread Nicolas Pettiaux
2013/10/5 Marc Gemis marc.ge...@gmail.com As far as I understood the main reasons where * the domain name should belong to a group of people (an organization) not an individual indeed * some organizations (e.g. Crib) are willing to donate money to an organization, but not to individuals.

Re: [OSM-talk-be] OSM Belgian chapter as a Belgian asbl/vzw

2013-10-05 Thread Nicolas Pettiaux
2013/10/5 Gilbert Hersschens gherssch...@gmail.com I agree with Nicolas. OFKN needs to have convincing arguments. Keep in mind that we are a very small team and just starting to get ourselves more organized. My concern is that becoming part of a larger organization at this point may be like

Re: [OSM-talk-be] OSM Belgian chapter as a Belgian asbl/vzw

2013-10-05 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Fri, Oct 04, 2013 at 07:12:40PM +0200, Pierre Parmentier wrote: I order to progress with the registration of OSM-BE as an asbl/vzw, I have: - updated the draft for the statutes. (As the fr version is more detailed than the nl version, I have been working on the first one.) -

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] About CC-4.0 and ODbl

2013-10-05 Thread Tadeusz Knapik
Hello, But doesn't BY-SA claim to cover the database rights? Doesn't that clash with the ODbL? A produced work isn't a database, so BY-SA 4's (proposed) protection of database rights can't be relevant to it, surely. I'm very happy if this is the case. To clarify, as far as I understand

[OSM-talk] Changeset comments

2013-10-05 Thread sabas88
Hello, when editing outside my country, I try to give changeset comments in english to let other mappers understand what I did in their area. I believe this must be a best practice regarding comments (alongside the meaningful comments one). This is the last example

Re: [OSM-talk] Changeset comments

2013-10-05 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am 05/ott/2013 um 09:47 schrieb sabas88 saba...@gmail.com: when editing outside my country, I try to give changeset comments in english to let other mappers understand what I did in their area. wouldn't it make sense to use English also when editing inside your own country? Cheers,

Re: [OSM-talk] Changeset comments

2013-10-05 Thread Christian Quest
It would make sense if everybody could understand english which is not the case, except if we want only english speaking OSM contributors. 2013/10/5 Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com Am 05/ott/2013 um 09:47 schrieb sabas88 saba...@gmail.com: when editing outside my country, I

Re: [OSM-talk] Changeset comments

2013-10-05 Thread sabas88
2013/10/5 Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com Am 05/ott/2013 um 09:47 schrieb sabas88 saba...@gmail.com: when editing outside my country, I try to give changeset comments in english to let other mappers understand what I did in their area. wouldn't it make sense to use English

[OSM-talk] Call for Contributions - European Data Forum 2014 (EDF2014), March 19-20, 2014

2013-10-05 Thread Angelos Tzotsos
[Apologies for cross-postings] EDF2014 CALL FOR CONTRIBUTIONS European Data Forum 2014 (EDF2014) Athens, Greece March 19-20, 2014 http://2014.data-forum.eu/ IMPORTANT DATES - Submission of proposals: December 10 2013, 22.00pm CET - Notification of acceptance or rejection: early January

Re: [OSM-talk] Changeset comments

2013-10-05 Thread Shaun McDonald
On 5 Oct 2013, at 11:02, sabas88 saba...@gmail.com wrote: 2013/10/5 Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com Am 05/ott/2013 um 09:47 schrieb sabas88 saba...@gmail.com: when editing outside my country, I try to give changeset comments in english to let other mappers understand

Re: [OSM-talk] Changeset comments

2013-10-05 Thread Christian Rogel
Le 5 oct. 2013 à 13:03, Shaun McDonald sh...@shaunmcdonald.me.uk a écrit : Taken another way, when on holiday in another country where I don't know the language well enough to be able to talk/write it, I'll write in English a language that I do know. There are translation tools out

Re: [Talk-de] Deutscher Wandertag

2013-10-05 Thread Thorsten Alge
Dass ein Freiwilligenprojekt den Wandervögeln Karten hinterherträgt und dafür noch bezahlt, ist wohl etwas viel verlangt. Sehe ich genauso. ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de

Re: [Talk-de] Deutscher Wandertag

2013-10-05 Thread Walter Nordmann
Thorsten Alge wrote Dass ein Freiwilligenprojekt den Wandervögeln Karten hinterherträgt und dafür noch bezahlt, ist wohl etwas viel verlangt. Sehe ich genauso. Schick der netten Dame doch mal den Nabble-Link zu diesem Thread. (nabble, weil das Lesen ohne Aufwand und ohne Regstrieren geht).

[Talk-de] Spezialgebiet Fahrrad-Mapping

2013-10-05 Thread Wolfgang Schuch
Hallo zusammen, ich bin seit eben neu in dieser Liste, weil ich für mein Spezialgebiet keine adäquate Informations- und Diskussionsmedium gefunden habe. Ich hoffe, dass ich hier die Info bekomme, wo ich für mein Interessengebiet die richtige Gruppe finde, denn ich will nicht alles mitbekommen ;-)

Re: [Talk-de] Spezialgebiet Fahrrad-Mapping

2013-10-05 Thread Alexander Lehner
On Sat, 5 Oct 2013, Wolfgang Schuch wrote: Hallo zusammen, ich bin seit eben neu in dieser Liste, weil ich für mein Spezialgebiet keine adäquate Informations- und Diskussionsmedium gefunden habe. Ich hoffe, dass ich hier die Info bekomme, wo ich für mein Interessengebiet die richtige Gruppe

Re: [Talk-de] Spezialgebiet Fahrrad-Mapping

2013-10-05 Thread Leo Koppelkamm
Hallo Wolfang, mein Interesse bei osm bezieht sich auch größtenteils auf Radinfrastruktur und in Berlin sind inzwischen nahezu alle Radwege und streifen eingetragen. Daraus habe ich eine kleine fahrradrouting app gebaut ( http://leo-koppelkamm.de/bike/ ). Ein dedizierte Fahrrad-osm-Liste gibt es

Re: [Talk-de] Spezialgebiet Fahrrad-Mapping

2013-10-05 Thread Leo Koppelkamm
Wenn du selber Karten erzeugen willst, auf denen bestimmte fahrradsachen hervorgehoben sind, lohnt es sich womöglich tilemill anzuschauen. Einfacher als selber mapnik zu installieren/konfigurieren. L Am Samstag, 5. Oktober 2013 schrieb Alexander Lehner : On Sat, 5 Oct 2013, Wolfgang Schuch

Re: [Talk-de] Spezialgebiet Fahrrad-Mapping

2013-10-05 Thread fly
Hey Wolfgang, Kannst Du mal ein bisschen konkrete werden, welche Informationen Du brauchst und um was es Dir geht. Ich kenne die Berlin-Karte von ~2000 und fand sie als Fahrradfahrer super, weil gerade nicht die offiziellen Routen bevorzugt wurden, sonder oft Seitenstraßen und Umfahrungen um

Re: [Talk-de] Spezialgebiet Fahrrad-Mapping

2013-10-05 Thread Wolfgang Schuch
Hallo Alexander, - Der ADFC hat eigene Routen, die z.B. radfahrertauglich durch eine Stadt fuehren. Problem dabei ist: Die Routen sind meist nicht oeffentlich ausgeschildert und damit als Quelle fuer OSM 'eher nicht geeignet' (um es diplomatisch auszudruecken). Dafuer gibt es aber Loesungen,

Re: [Talk-de] Spezialgebiet Fahrrad-Mapping

2013-10-05 Thread Wolfgang Schuch
Hallo Leo, mein Interesse bei osm bezieht sich auch größtenteils auf Radinfrastruktur und in Berlin sind inzwischen nahezu alle Radwege und streifen eingetragen. Daraus habe ich eine kleine fahrradrouting app gebaut ( http://leo-koppelkamm.de/bike/ ). Mir geht es mehr um Radverkehrsnetze,

Re: [Talk-de] Spezialgebiet Fahrrad-Mapping

2013-10-05 Thread Martin Koppenhöfer
Am 05.10.2013 um 17:01 schrieb Wolfgang Schuch wolfgang.sch...@adfc.de: OK. Z.B. wüsste ich gerne - mit welchem Werkzeug ich am besten (ja ich weiß, das ist meist Ansichtssache) *cn taggen kann. ich empfehle Dir Josm. Die *cn tags am besten als Route-Relationen mappen und nicht als

Re: [Talk-de] Spezialgebiet Fahrrad-Mapping

2013-10-05 Thread Felix Hartmann
zwar bei vielen nicht so beliebt, aber man könnte gut fahrbahre Strecken - mit class:bicycle hervorherben - gerade wenn diese auf primary-tertiary im Stadtgebiet entlangführen - da man höherrangige Straßen im Stadtgebiet normalerweise eher abwertet. On 05.10.2013 14:51, Wolfgang Schuch wrote:

Re: [Talk-de] Spezialgebiet Fahrrad-Mapping

2013-10-05 Thread rainerU
Hallo Wolfgang, ich rendere eine regionale Fahrradkarte [1] und habe mich daher mit dem Thema Radverkehrsnetz in OSM zwangsläufig befasst. Weitgehend unproblematisch bezügliche Erfassen und Auswerten sind aus meiner Sicht Verkehrswege, die per rechtlicher Regelung für Radfahrer freigegeben,

Re: [Talk-in] Usage of www.surveykshan.gov.in

2013-10-05 Thread I Chengappa
Copying coordinates is of course plainly wrong without the owner's authority. However any published data can be used as a reference and as a check. Bing maps gives us much of the information necessary for mapping, but identification of features is a separate matter. If the pwd data is being used

Re: [Talk-in] Usage of www.surveykshan.gov.in

2013-10-05 Thread Ravi Kumar
Copy right and Free Geospatial data. The very fact that the data is made public, indicates that  1. The owner wants public to benefit from it. 2. To what extent the benefit should be, is left to the public, and no amount of policing can really help. I hope, wisdom will prevail one day and all

Re: [Talk-it] Alcuni articoli Wikipedia mappabili in OSM

2013-10-05 Thread Luca Delucchi
2013/10/3 Simone F. grop...@gmail.com: Ho iniziato ad informarmi su git, ma fin'ora non lo ho mai usato... Quando avrò messo lo script su un repository ti avviserò. dai, aspetto con ansia ;-) Lo script scarica: http://download.geofabrik.de/europe/italy-latest.osm.pbf lo salva con

Re: [Talk-it] LearnOSM in formato ebook

2013-10-05 Thread Michele Malfatti
Grazie della mail Inviato da iPhone Il giorno 05/ott/2013, alle ore 14:51, Daniele Forsi dfo...@gmail.com ha scritto: La traduzione italiana di LearnOSM, intitolata Openstreetmap per principianti che ha citato sabas88 oggi a #osmit13, si può scaricare dal link in questo messaggio

Re: [Talk-it] Alcuni articoli Wikipedia mappabili in OSM

2013-10-05 Thread Luca Delucchi
2013/10/5 Simone F. grop...@gmail.com: Visto che parliamo di cose tecniche, se vuoi, possiamo spostarci in privato. come vuoi, se agli altri non interessa essere aggiornati... Ok, ho modificato lo script. Adesso i file si chiamano italy-latest.* le copie vecchie italy.* Per favore,

Re: [Talk-it] Alcuni articoli Wikipedia mappabili in OSM

2013-10-05 Thread Simone F.
Il giorno 05 ottobre 2013 16:59, Luca Delucchi lucadel...@gmail.com ha scritto: ... avrei ancora due richieste: - aggiungere un'opzione server che durante il create_webpages non provi a fare partire firefox e che non chieda di salvare le stats ma le salva per forza Le opzioni --nofx e

Re: [Talk-it] Alcuni articoli Wikipedia mappabili in OSM

2013-10-05 Thread Fabrizio Carrai
Complimenti anche da parte mia a Simone, lavoro veramente interessante! Volevo segnalare che alcune categorie contengono articoli di elementi storici, non più attuali. Per fare un esempio l' Aeroporto di Firenze-Campo di Marte non esiste più, ed al suo posto c'è lo stadio fiorentino. Secondo me

Re: [Talk-it] Alcuni articoli Wikipedia mappabili in OSM

2013-10-05 Thread Luca Delucchi
2013/10/5 Simone F. grop...@gmail.com: Le opzioni --nofx e --save_stats dovrebbero fare proprio questo ;-) ottimo, scusa ma non avevo controllato bene - ho preparato tutto per avere dei cronjob sul server FMACH [0], Grazie! ora si aggiorna ad ogni ora Dovrebbe sistemarsi cambiando

Re: [Talk-it] Alcuni articoli Wikipedia mappabili in OSM

2013-10-05 Thread marco bra
Sto' mettendo il tag wikipedia:it ai laghi e noto che il tag coordinate di wikipedia a volte e' palesemente errato ovvero le coordinate putnano a zone non coerenti con l'articolo di wikipedia. Come fare quando le coordinate di wikipedia sono sbagliate... ? Non voglio modificare la pagina di

Re: [Talk-at] Begegnungszone / Wohnstraße - living_street?

2013-10-05 Thread Andreas Labres
On 04.10.13 22:20, Markus Straub wrote: 3) Shared Space (Abwesenheit jeglicher Schilder,.. Ich kann mich auch irren, aber ist die Begegnungszone nicht der Versuch, die Idee des shared space in einem Gesetz zu realisieren? /al ___ Talk-at mailing list

Re: [Talk-at] Begegnungszone / Wohnstraße - living_street?

2013-10-05 Thread C K
Wenn living_street als Wohnstrasse ein Durchfahren nicht gestattet, dann dürfte jede Routing Engine keine Route in die Kirchengasse 2 finden. Denn diese ist nur durch die Begegnungszone=living_street zu erreichen. Ist das für eine weitere Verwendung sinnvoll? Am 05.10.2013 10:18 schrieb Andreas

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Explosion d'un carrefour

2013-10-05 Thread Philippe Verdy
Le feu manquant y était hier soir !!! Le 5 octobre 2013 07:40, Ista Pouss ista...@gmail.com a écrit : Bonjour, Le rendu que j'ai trouvé ce matin pour cette place me semble moins mauvais que d'habitude :-) Histoire d'en conserver une trace, je l'ai mis à

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Matériel de promotion

2013-10-05 Thread Yoann Cornec
En live, je préfère show me the way, que je trouve graphiquement plus plaisant : http://osmlab.github.io/show-me-the-way/ Le 4 oct. 2013 09:20, Christian Quest cqu...@openstreetmap.fr a écrit : Le live est un bon outil à utiliser lorsqu'on a une connexion internet qui fonctionne correctement.

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Matériel de promotion

2013-10-05 Thread Christian Quest
Show me the way est très chouette, mais encore plus gourmand au niveau réseau... et sur les expos, on a souvent une connexion très saturée :( Le 5 octobre 2013 10:06, Yoann Cornec yoanncor...@gmail.com a écrit : En live, je préfère show me the way, que je trouve graphiquement plus plaisant :

[OSM-talk-fr] Fwd: Invitation au 1er RdV periodique OSM sur Lyon

2013-10-05 Thread Rene Chalon
Pour information. René. Original Message Subject: Invitation au 1er RdV periodique OSM sur Lyon Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2013 18:38:46 +0200 (CEST) From: gnrc69 g...@laposte.net Reply-To: local-l...@listes.openstreetmap.fr,gnrc69 g...@laposte.net To:

[OSM-talk-fr] Rencontre des contributeurs des Pyrénées-Orientales

2013-10-05 Thread rainerU
La prochaine rencontre des contributeurs des Pyrénées-Orientales aura lieu le mardi 8 octobre de 18h à 20h à la CyberBodega, 26 rue de l'Avenir à Perpignan Ce sera l'occasion de faire le bilan de nos actions parler de nos actions de cet été - cartopartie Collioure, intégration des noms de rues

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Deux numéros de rue ?

2013-10-05 Thread Cyrille Giquello
Le 3 oct. 2013 10:39, Christophe Merlet red...@redfoxcenter.org a écrit : Le 03/10/2013 09:42, olivier delaune a écrit : Heu, ça ça veut dire que ce que j'ai fait à Pessac n'est pas correct ? Où est ce qu'il faut mettre le nom avec addr:housenumber ? En ce qui me concerne j'avais pris

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Explosion d'un carrefour

2013-10-05 Thread Pieren
2013/10/5 Ista Pouss ista...@gmail.com: Le rendu que j'ai trouvé ce matin pour cette place me semble moins mauvais que d'habitude :-) Il ne faut pas attacher trop d'importance au rendu. Même si on sait bien que ça reste le premier outil de validation pour les nouveaux contributeurs (et aussi la

[Talk-GB] State of the map Scotland 2013 - 6 days away

2013-10-05 Thread Bob Kerr
Counting down to State of the map Scotland 2013 wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/State_of_the_Map_Scotland_2013 Please send out messages to your social media of choice Cheers Bob ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Talk-GB] State of the map Scotland 2013 - 6 days away

2013-10-05 Thread Robert Scott
On Saturday 05 October 2013, Bob Kerr wrote: Counting down to State of the map Scotland 2013 wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/State_of_the_Map_Scotland_2013 Please send out messages to your social media of choice Booked my megabus gold tickets last night. What are numbers looking like so

Re: [Talk-GB] State of the map Scotland 2013 - 6 days away

2013-10-05 Thread Shaun McDonald
On 5 Oct 2013, at 14:13, Robert Scott li...@humanleg.org.uk wrote: On Saturday 05 October 2013, Bob Kerr wrote: Counting down to State of the map Scotland 2013 wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/State_of_the_Map_Scotland_2013 Please send out messages to your social media of choice Booked

Re: [Talk-GB] State of the map Scotland 2013 - 6 days away

2013-10-05 Thread Robert Scott
On Saturday 05 October 2013, Shaun McDonald wrote: On 5 Oct 2013, at 14:13, Robert Scott li...@humanleg.org.uk wrote: On Saturday 05 October 2013, Bob Kerr wrote: Counting down to State of the map Scotland 2013 wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/State_of_the_Map_Scotland_2013 Please

[Talk-GB] Relation for group of listed buildings

2013-10-05 Thread Andy Mabbett
I've just created this relation: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/3247604 for a terrace of listed houses. How could I have done that better? -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Talk-GB mailing list

Re: [Talk-GB] Relation for group of listed buildings

2013-10-05 Thread Chris Hill
On 05/10/13 21:10, Andy Mabbett wrote: I've just created this relation: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/3247604 for a terrace of listed houses. How could I have done that better? The source quoted points to a copyright page. Do English Heritage supply OSM-friendly data? --

[Talk-us] OSM US Chapter Board Elections

2013-10-05 Thread Richard Welty
The ballots should be on their way, and a number have voted already. Apparently, a year ago during the previous election, several individual clicked the Survey Monkey remove link on Survey Monkey. They will not receive ballots. Survey Monkey does not tell me which individuals those are, so I do

Re: [Talk-us] OSM US election status

2013-10-05 Thread Mike N
On 10/5/2013 1:51 PM, Michal Migurski wrote: Can I just point out that the breadth of candidates this year is a very pleasant surprise? Agreed! It turned the voting into a challenging process. ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org

[Talk-us] Editing heatmaps for OSM-US canidates

2013-10-05 Thread Paul Norman
I threw together a set of links to OSM-US candidates editing heatmaps for edits in the US, as one of the criteria I'm using for deciding whom to vote for is editing history. Edits in Alaska or Hawaii are outside the window, but were not significant. Martijn van Exel:

[Talk-us] OSM US Chapter Board Elections

2013-10-05 Thread Clifford Snow
Just want to give my thanks to the current board and wish everyone good luck in the elections. The slate of candidates is extremely strong. It made choosing difficult, but reassuring that no matter who is elected, we have good people running the Chapter. -- Clifford OpenStreetMap: Maps with a