Re: [Talk-GB] OpenStreetMap's first flight!

2009-09-18 Thread Andy Allan
On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 2:52 PM, Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net wrote: Frankie Roberto wrote: Have copied chippy and RichardF in, in the hope that they can help us connect things up. Potlatch doesn't do WMS, it only does 900913 tiles (like OSM itself). You specify them in this

Re: [OSM-talk] how to map this? cycleway or footpath?

2009-09-17 Thread Andy Allan
On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 11:11 PM, Roy Wallace waldo000...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 12:42 AM, Valent Turkovic valent.turko...@gmail.com wrote: How do you differentiate from path and footpath tag? What is the difference between them? Can you show me an example? As the wiki

Re: [Talk-GB] NOVAM viewer

2009-09-16 Thread Andy Allan
On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 9:58 AM, Christoph Boehme christ...@b3e.net wrote: Robert Naylor wrote: On Tue, 15 Sep 2009 08:27:16 +0100, Brian Prangle bpran...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi everyone Shelter = yes/no I think is essential to leave in as a requirement as to whether a bus stop is

Re: [OSM-talk] Brainstorming: Simple Revert-Tools

2009-09-04 Thread Andy Allan
On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 9:37 AM, Peter Körnerosm-li...@mazdermind.de wrote: It could then offer the possibilities to Exactly. Call it what you like, but it'll need to ask for user input, which makes it an editor rather than a blind revert tool. So long as everyone remembers when they're

Re: [OSM-talk] A tile that just won't update

2009-09-01 Thread Andy Allan
On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 5:49 PM, Shaun McDonaldsh...@shaunmcdonald.me.uk wrote: Tweaking of the colours will fix the problem. It requires a lot of experimentation. Tweaking the colours will mask the problem, not fix it, and it'll still go wrong further down the line. The colour reduction on

Re: [OSM-talk] Trace type

2009-09-01 Thread Andy Allan
On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 4:22 PM, Ed Avise...@waniasset.com wrote: P.S. Currently there is a possibility to add tags, but those are not predefined, there is no clear explanation how to use them etc. Exactly.  Saying 'just use tags' does not solve the problem. Just use tags.  There needs to be

Re: [OSM-talk] Trace type

2009-09-01 Thread Andy Allan
On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 6:28 PM, Ed Avise...@waniasset.com wrote: By analogy, when adding a street to OSM, most editors do not just show a blank textbox and expect the user to enter key=value pairs manually.  They show a few common choices, which have been agreed on by the OSM community

Re: [OSM-talk] RR8 - Possible International Vandal (assistance required in various countries)

2009-09-01 Thread Andy Allan
On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 11:41 PM, Pierenpier...@gmail.com wrote: And yes, I'm expecting fast reactions from the admins You're a gold-level member of the OSMF, right? Y'know, the level that means your annual membership fee is the same cost as a full time admin to do your beck and call, right?

Re: [OSM-talk] RR8 - Possible International Vandal (assistance required in various countries)

2009-09-01 Thread Andy Allan
On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 10:34 PM, Dermot McNallyderm...@gmail.com wrote: But what we are dealing with here is a proven vandal who won't engage with community members. Action required. Yes. By you. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Vandalism#Vandalism_response Doesn't mention demanding

Re: [Talk-GB] Export Cyclemap

2009-08-18 Thread Andy Allan
On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 10:27 AM, Bob Kerropenstreetmapcraigmil...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Hi, Is there any legal or other reason that there is not an option to export Opencyclemap tiles. In the 'format to export' opencyclemap is not there. http://trac.openstreetmap.org/ticket/1049 It's not

Re: [Talk-GB] English chapter

2009-08-18 Thread Andy Allan
On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 4:22 PM, Nick Blacknickbla...@gmail.com wrote: Focus.  OSM-F focuses on global issues, OSMF-GB focusses on local / national issues. That sounds like the need for a working group, not a separate legal entity. OSM-F Local * Local community building and outreach *

Re: [OSM-talk] copyright problem with data copied from a map

2009-08-17 Thread Andy Allan
On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 9:18 AM, Renaud MICHELr.h.michel+...@gmail.com wrote: Any advice? Hi Renaud, I think the best thing for you to do in this case is to contact the Foundation, as explained in the FAQ.

Re: [OSM-talk] Proliferation of path vs. footway

2009-08-10 Thread Andy Allan
On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 10:30 AM, Tom Chancet...@acrewoods.net wrote: Hi there, I'm 100% unclear about the distinction between highway=path and highway=footway. Paths and footways, which seem to be used for the same sorts of ways by different mappers, both show up differently on the main

Re: [Talk-GB] 3 more changesets from Liam123 for reversion

2009-08-07 Thread Andy Allan
On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 8:21 PM, David Earlda...@frankieandshadow.com wrote: Peter Miller wrote: 3 more changesets today from Liam123 for reversion. I have added them to the revert page and have copied this email the Andy. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/GB_revert_request_log You got

Re: [Talk-GB] Liam123 again

2009-08-07 Thread Andy Allan
On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 1:11 PM, Nick Barnesn...@thebarnesfamily.eu wrote: To my mind, nobody ought to be able to edit live map data unless: No, no, no - completely wrong approach. Think using Dettol continuously to keep your house clean - most people now realise that healthy immune systems come

Re: [Talk-GB] Liam123 again

2009-08-07 Thread Andy Allan
On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 2:17 PM, Christopher Osbornechris.gai...@gmail.com wrote: I'd like to hear from the DWG on how they handle the edit wars in Cyprus. Must be some kind of precedent? Handled, past tense, I believe. I've heard that it's now resolved. Anyway, that was a dispute, not

Re: [OSM-talk] Bing Imagery

2009-08-05 Thread Andy Allan
On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 3:36 AM, John Smithdelta_foxt...@yahoo.com wrote: I know google forbids it, but I haven't heard about MS/Bing... Have they disallowed use of their sat imagery or is it explicitly forbidden in their TCs? It doesn't need to be explicitly forbidden for it to still be

Re: [OSM-talk] [RFC] highway=unclassified currently is too ambiguous, so here's my proposal to fix it.

2009-08-05 Thread Andy Allan
On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 9:30 AM, John Smithdelta_foxt...@yahoo.com wrote: but the emails in the last day or 2 have gone no where in addressing the issue, Seriously, there's a lot of people subscribed to this list, and very few joining the conversation. Maybe everyone is watching 5 or 6 people

Re: [Talk-GB] Liam123 alert!

2009-08-05 Thread Andy Allan
On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 12:59 PM, Peter Millerpeter.mil...@itoworld.com wrote: Can I suggest that you (David) immediately add this to the GB Revert Request log (http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/ GB_revert_request_log) , send Liam123 asking him to stop and forward the revert request to Andy

Re: [OSM-talk] Search field on www.openstreetmap.org

2009-07-30 Thread Andy Allan
On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 3:23 PM, Tom Hughest...@compton.nu wrote: There are also issues with search at the moment which mean we don't actually want to make it too prominent. It's worth pointing out that there are developers who are working on improving the search (primarily David Earl), so

Re: [OSM-talk] Search field on www.openstreetmap.org

2009-07-30 Thread Andy Allan
by geosearch... Yann Le 30 juil. 09 à 17:01, David Earl a écrit : Andy Allan wrote: It's worth pointing out that there are developers who are working on improving the search (primarily David Earl), so it's a known issue that's being worked on rather than something that's being ignored

Re: [OSM-talk] is_in and similar tags

2009-07-28 Thread Andy Allan
On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 4:09 PM, David Earlda...@frankieandshadow.com wrote: The reason I gave was for name searching, not routing. It allows the result of a search to be given a descriptive context that isn't currently possible any other way. It allows the result of a search to be given a

Re: [OSM-talk] is_in and similar tags

2009-07-28 Thread Andy Allan
On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 5:20 PM, David Earlda...@frankieandshadow.com wrote: Andy Allan wrote: On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 4:09 PM, David Earlda...@frankieandshadow.com wrote: The reason I gave was for name searching, not routing. It allows the result of a search to be given a descriptive

Re: [Talk-GB] Adding unofficial cycle routes

2009-07-28 Thread Andy Allan
On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 11:12 AM, Richard Mannrichard.mann.westoxf...@googlemail.com wrote: While a signposted route on the ground is the best criterion for a reactive mapper, I think you can proactively identify cycle routes unambiguously prior to that (at least well enough that there won't be

Re: [Talk-GB] Adding unofficial cycle routes

2009-07-27 Thread Andy Allan
On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 4:04 PM, John McKerrellj...@mckerrell.net wrote: How about a bus route? Though there's bus stops along the way there's no arrows or anything like that saying bus route goes this way. Not trying to be difficult, just wondering. I can verify which way the number 37 bus

Re: [Talk-GB] Roundabout, ways and relationship policies

2009-07-23 Thread Andy Allan
On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 9:48 AM, Steve Hillst...@nexusuk.org wrote: On Wed, 22 Jul 2009, Nicholas Barnes wrote: Should, for example, the component ways making up the roundabout be grouped in their own I'm a roundabout relationship? Do we need to be able to tell which ways are part of a

Re: [Talk-transit] [Talk-GB] Roundabout, ways and relationship policies

2009-07-22 Thread Andy Allan
On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 10:33 PM, David Earlda...@frankieandshadow.com wrote: Lennard wrote: Brian Prangle wrote: Most public transport route maps do show the whole roundabout as part of the route - perhaps we should follow their example? If the return trip takes the same roads, eventually

Re: [Talk-transit] [Talk-GB] Roundabout, ways and relationship policies

2009-07-22 Thread Andy Allan
Brian Prangle wrote: Most public transport route maps do show the whole roundabout as part of the route - perhaps we should follow their example? No. Don't put in garbage into openstreetmap just to mimic other inferior maps! On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 9:32 PM, Lennardl...@xs4all.nl wrote: If

Re: [OSM-talk] Do we care if its forest or wood? Natural world mapping ...

2009-07-22 Thread Andy Allan
On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 9:13 PM, Greg Troxelg...@ir.bbn.com wrote: yes, land_use=forestry perhaps implies land_cover=trees, Not when they've all just been chopped down :-) land_use=forestry land_cover = mud_treestumps_and_woodchips But seriously, there's a difference between an area being

Re: [OSM-talk] Do we care if its forest or wood? Natural world mapping ...

2009-07-22 Thread Andy Allan
On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 9:38 PM, Tylertyler.ritc...@gmail.com wrote: eh... I'm less fond of this, just because I'm not sold on there being 1 and only 1 land use for an area but I have no supporting evidence to back up my iffy feeling Many areas-with-trees in the UK are used for both forestry

Re: [OSM-talk] Do we care if its forest or wood? Natural world mapping ...

2009-07-22 Thread Andy Allan
On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 4:00 PM, Alice Kaerastkaer...@qvox.org wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On Wed, 22 Jul 2009 15:48:17 +0100 Andy Allan gravityst...@gmail.com wrote: So we have (at least) three orthogonal properties a) Are there trees, swamp, mud or rocks

Re: [Talk-GB] New wiki page for GB reversion requests

2009-07-22 Thread Andy Allan
On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 12:52 PM, Peter Millerpeter.mil...@itoworld.com wrote: I have create a wiki page for reversion requests for GB data and have added all Liam123s recent changesets to it with a reference to the discussions of the nature of his edits. I believe that this will be a

Re: [Talk-GB] Roundabout, ways and relationship policies

2009-07-22 Thread Andy Allan
On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 4:22 PM, Nicholas Barnesn...@thebarnesfamily.eu wrote: Shaun McDonald wrote: I have seen many roundabouts split up so that the bridges can be added properly, so started doing it myself some time ago. Which begs the question what is the point of tagging as way as a

Re: [Talk-GB] Roundabout, ways and relationship policies

2009-07-22 Thread Andy Allan
On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 10:33 PM, David Earlda...@frankieandshadow.com wrote: Lennard wrote: Brian Prangle wrote: Most public transport route maps do show the whole roundabout as part of the route - perhaps we should follow their example? If the return trip takes the same roads, eventually

Re: [OSM-talk] How big should a planet.osm-osm2pgsql database be?

2009-07-21 Thread Andy Allan
On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 10:16 PM, Aude (Kate)maps2w...@gmail.com wrote: Did you build a spatial index on any of the tables?  That would add substantially to the database size, yet would improve performance and rendering. osm2pgsql takes care of the spatial indexes, whichever mode (RAM or

Re: [OSM-talk] Problem With Trails

2009-07-21 Thread Andy Allan
On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 6:11 AM, Andrew Ayrea...@britishideas.com wrote: I have uploaded two sets of trails on two different days. The first set have rendered, but the second set hasn't. I'm stumped as to why. I'll give examples of a single trail from each set. This one works:  

Re: [OSM-talk] Create OSM mailing list talk-vi

2009-06-22 Thread Andy Allan
If you want a new list for your country or language, send email to Michael Collinson, michael at osmfoundation dot org As it says at http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mailing_lists Cheers, Andy On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 9:56 AM, Ivan Garciacapisc...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, in Hanoi, capital of

Re: [OSM-talk] railway=halt rendering

2009-06-22 Thread Andy Allan
Mmmm text ordering. One of my least favourite problems to sort out. I've generally gone for the principle that all cycling information has to show up at some point, and in the case you link to it's the node network numbers that bump off the town names. I recently changed things around so that

Re: [OSM-talk] how are runways related to an airport/aerodrome

2009-06-22 Thread Andy Allan
On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 7:21 AM, Madhav Vodnalamvodn...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Guys In this Mapping Features documentation page, it says add only  aeroway=runway  tag to the way to denote it a runway http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:aeroway%3Drunway As a result, you will see runways as

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] OSM data grant

2009-06-19 Thread Andy Allan
On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 8:31 PM, Richard Fairhurstrich...@systemed.net wrote: Russ Nelson wrote: SteveC wrote: Andy Allan wrote: [...] Wow, I knew CloudMade had developed some really cool OSM-related products, but I had no idea a Fast Acting Synchronised Legal-Talk Trolling Squadron

Re: [OSM-talk] more OSM coming soon

2009-06-19 Thread Andy Allan
On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 10:56 PM, Ivo van den Maagdenbergivo.vdmaagdenb...@gmail.com wrote: What the reason is that I would get the 404.png is not fully clear to me. Glad that it's working for you. For an explanation of the above, it's not actually the tileserver that ever returns the 404.png.

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] OSM data grant

2009-06-18 Thread Andy Allan
On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 5:00 PM, Russ Nelsonr...@cloudmade.com wrote: Yeah, I gotta admit that I'm wishing that we could protect the database as a database of geodata, whilst simultaneously allowing people to make derivative works that AREN'T a database of geodata, whilst also avoiding the

Re: [OSM-talk] full history of a way?

2009-06-18 Thread Andy Allan
On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 12:02 PM, Ben Laenenbenlae...@gmail.com wrote: MP wrote: So currently, if I want to know how was the way drawn in time T, I had to get history of the way, then find out which nodes were used by the way in time T, then get history from each of the nodes and pick

Re: [OSM-talk] SOTM 08 videos

2009-06-18 Thread Andy Allan
On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 9:46 PM, SteveCst...@asklater.com wrote: Hi Linked off of stateofthemap.org are the SOTM '08 videos:        http://blog.signal2noise.ie/~eason/sotm08/ But they're incomplete and super, super, super slow to load. So does anyone know if the rest will be put up? I've

Re: [OSM-talk] import refuse !

2009-06-18 Thread Andy Allan
On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 7:51 PM, Stéphane Brunnerstephane.brun...@gmail.com wrote: Hello ! I just have an import failure. this is just because my holux m-241 with mtkbable returns me points like this : trkpt lat=nan lon=nan  elenan/ele  time1969-08-02T00:22:53Z/time /trkpt Invalid

Re: [OSM-talk] Lake Cowichan Now loaded (more of sample 092c area)

2009-06-18 Thread Andy Allan
On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 12:57 PM, Marc Schützschue...@gmx.net wrote: I think the definitions really don't belong in the the data -- perhaps if you want to see them, your browser should look them up in some table rather than load from the data. +1 It should be sufficient to keep the

Re: [OSM-talk] openmaps.org

2009-06-17 Thread Andy Allan
On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 5:30 PM, Eric Pritchette...@bitsofclever.com wrote: Hi Everyone, I recently donated openmaps.org to the Open Street Map Foundation. Everyone here is doing a great job with this project and I thought you could make better use of the domain. One thing needs to be said

Re: [OSM-talk] Removing gps-tracks

2009-06-16 Thread Andy Allan
On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 12:00 AM, Ed Loache...@loach.me.uk wrote: Ahh, yes I can :) But how do I find the one who uploaded the tracks? And what if they don't reply or aren't active any more? You could perhaps use Potlatch as an editor which only shows (I think) a certain number of most

Re: [OSM-talk] Move the Map

2009-06-16 Thread Andy Allan
On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 6:22 PM, Frederik Rammfrede...@remote.org wrote: http://www.remote.org/frederik/tmp/three.jpg I don't find that too bad actually. But it has no map on the first page. I vehemently stated that we're about data, not about slippy maps, in the talk-de discussion; however

Re: [OSM-talk] Move the Map

2009-06-16 Thread Andy Allan
On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 1:56 PM, brendan barrettshogun...@gmail.com wrote: Perhaps a compromise would be to have some links to other versions of the map If the layer selector was exposed by default, that would have a big impact. Cheers, Andy ___

Re: [Talk-GB] Dartford Crossings

2009-06-12 Thread Andy Allan
I should clarify - I'm not disagreeing with your conclusion, just your stated reasoning ;-) On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 11:46 AM, Andy Allangravityst...@gmail.com wrote: What? That page says nothing like that - it says you can use your bicycle for free, and someone will drive you and it across the

Re: [OSM-talk] Overhauled the Garmin page

2009-06-09 Thread Andy Allan
Good work, long overdue. I would make some suggestions: * The model name could have the links from the Detailed description, saving width * ... and could link to the right part of the page using # in the url * Most of the good and bad points will be the same for each eTrex unit, and so combining

Re: [Talk-GB] Freemap (OSM for walkers) - increased coverage

2009-06-09 Thread Andy Allan
On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 3:18 PM, Jonathan Bennettopenstreet...@jonno.cix.co.uk wrote: Ed Loach wrote: Have you a wiki page to say how to tag for things to render under each category? Tag...  Render... BURN HIM! BURN! :-) Gah, the common misconception rears up again. Repeat after me: It

Re: [OSM-talk] Getting Good Tracks With eTrex

2009-06-04 Thread Andy Allan
On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 10:48 PM, Ed Loach e...@loach.me.uk wrote:     Is there anything else I need to know about getting good tracks? Lambertus posted some tips on logging to this list in April: http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2009-April/036015.html +1 to what Lambertus said.

Re: [Talk-GB] maxspeed field - what units should we use. etc

2009-06-04 Thread Andy Allan
On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 11:13 AM, David Earl da...@frankieandshadow.com wrote: you may well find that someone else goes round systematically changing them to km/h and puts in maxspeed:mph - that's what's happened to most of the ones I've done. Call them out publicly. This kind of thing is a

Re: [OSM-talk] How to tag small city alley ?

2009-05-30 Thread Andy Allan
On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 5:41 AM, Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org wrote: - Zitierten Text ausblenden - Greg Troxel wrote:   I'd agree that service isn't quite right, if that's the front of th= e   buildings. But similarly residential isn't right either (I guess we=  all   think of that as

[Talk-GB] Reminder - London Hack Weekend this weekend

2009-05-26 Thread Andy Allan
Hi Everyone, As a reminder, the London Hack Weekend kicks off on Friday evening with a planning meeting (heh) in the pub, and coding on both Saturday and Sunday. Full details and sign-up on the wiki at http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/London_Hack_Weekend If you can't make it in person - IRC

Re: [OSM-talk] zones for motorway/in town/outof town?

2009-05-22 Thread Andy Allan
On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 11:19 AM, Ben Laenen benlae...@gmail.com wrote: On Friday 22 May 2009, Andy Allan wrote: On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 6:13 PM, Ben Laenen benlae...@gmail.com wrote: A typical city here would look like all roads inside the built-up area inside one relation, and when

Re: [OSM-talk] Highways tagging vs Polygon

2009-05-22 Thread Andy Allan
On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 10:49 AM, Tobias Knerr o...@tobias-knerr.de wrote: As stated above, I'd certainly expect that it would be easier for #989431 to tag DE:rural info I missed the bit where DE:rural was proposed. How many roads outside of Germany are in Germany? How many roads in Germany

Re: [OSM-talk] zones for motorway/in town/outof town?

2009-05-21 Thread Andy Allan
On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 6:13 PM, Ben Laenen benlae...@gmail.com wrote: A typical city here would look like all roads inside the built-up area inside one relation, and when there are roads inside it with another speed limit, tag those ways with maxspeed. Jesus. * Anyone who doesn't know what

Re: [OSM-talk] Highways tagging vs Polygon

2009-05-21 Thread Andy Allan
On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 7:43 PM, Richard Bullock rb...@cantab.net wrote: Am I missing something, No, you're not. Cheers, Andy ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Highways tagging vs Polygon

2009-05-21 Thread Andy Allan
On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 11:08 PM, Andy Allan gravityst...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 7:43 PM, Richard Bullock rb...@cantab.net wrote: Am I missing something, No, you're not. I should expand that statement. No, you're not missing something, it's a fairly straightforward problem

Re: [Talk-GB] MK Redways

2009-05-21 Thread Andy Allan
On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 1:07 PM, Ed Loach e...@loach.me.uk wrote: I notice from the rerendered cycle map layer, that some of these have been tagged as a local cycle network Redway http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=52.0473lon=-0.7524zoom=13layers=00B0FTF Should we do this with all the

Re: [OSM-talk] zones for motorway/in town/outof town?

2009-05-20 Thread Andy Allan
On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 6:44 AM, Guenther Meyer d@sordidmusic.com wrote: hi, currently there is a discussion on the german list about tagging speed limits respectively different zones. as there are implied also other things than maxspeed there are proposed three default zones, derived

Re: [OSM-talk] [Fwd: Re: zones for motorway/in town/outof town?]

2009-05-20 Thread Andy Allan
On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 2:26 PM, marcus.wolsc...@googlemail.com wrote: On Wed, 20 May 2009 14:04:36 +0100, Radomir Cernoch radomir.cern...@gmail.com wrote: MP píše v St 20. 05. 2009 v 14:16 +0200: I wonder, can we have at some place (wiki?) some definition file that will specify these

Re: [OSM-talk] [Fwd: Re: zones for motorway/in town/outof town?]

2009-05-20 Thread Andy Allan
On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 3:22 PM, Radomir Cernoch radomir.cern...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, if only I knew that the idea would arouse so intense emotions! Ok, now I know that I should be more careful with the word semantic next time. Heh. It's mainly that I have a reflexive preference for

Re: [OSM-talk] Reverting Changes....

2009-05-18 Thread Andy Allan
On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 1:47 PM, Chris Fleming m...@chrisfleming.org wrote: In just spotted a pile of changes that someone made that seem to have done more harm than good: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/1008885 What's the current thinking on un-doing changes; is it worth

Re: [OSM-talk] Czech address system

2009-05-18 Thread Andy Allan
2009/5/15 Radomír Černoch radomir.cern...@gmail.com: To put the 'alternatenubmer' into 'housenumber' field, I think you proved Shaun's point about misspellings ;-) Cheers, Andy ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Talk-GB] MK mapping party

2009-05-18 Thread Andy Allan
On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 10:41 AM, Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) ajrli...@googlemail.com wrote: I'm expecting to organise another 6 parties through the rest of this year so people's preference for locations please shout up again. Scotland! I was just browsing around on z10 (i.e. the last

Re: [OSM-talk] gdalwarp question

2009-05-07 Thread Andy Allan
On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 6:44 PM, Torsten Mohr tm...@s.netic.de wrote: Hello Jukka, no, thanks for your help, any hint and discussion is really appreciated. Sorry, I misunderstood a bit what you were going to do.  It may well be that for Mapnik you'll need to reproject raster image first. I do

Re: [OSM-talk] Rendering of footways with bicycle=yes

2009-05-01 Thread Andy Allan
On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 7:40 PM, Hillsman, Edward hills...@cutr.usf.edu wrote: I assume that highway=cycleway is a path developed outside a road right-of-way, primarily for cycling (and the topic that you have been discussing in this thread). The illustration on the Map Features page lacks

Re: [OSM-talk] osm2pgsql and proper/legacy mercator

2009-05-01 Thread Andy Allan
On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 4:52 PM, Francois Van Der Biest francois.vanderbi...@camptocamp.com wrote: Hi list, osm2pgsql --help says: -m|--merc: Store data in proper spherical mercator (default) -M|--oldmerc: Store data in the legacy OSM mercator format I'm wondering what's the difference

Re: [OSM-talk] Rendering of footways with bicycle=yes

2009-04-30 Thread Andy Allan
On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 3:10 PM, Richard Mann richard.mann.westoxf...@googlemail.com wrote: I'd support that highway=path needs to be rendered in the cycle map layer, especially now it's becoming clearer how it's being used Every time it gets discussed, it becomes *less* clear how it's being

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] What is OSM and what isn't?

2009-04-30 Thread Andy Allan
On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 4:46 PM, Alan Wright alanwright.a...@googlemail.com wrote: I think OpenStreetMap needs a shop window - perhaps a different website altogether. I disagree. OSM doesn't need a faked-up website to show what can be done. There's plenty of real places using the data for real

Re: [OSM-talk] Turn restrictions ambiguity

2009-04-24 Thread Andy Allan
On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 10:13 AM, kaerast kaer...@qvox.org wrote: Why do we need to know which way has priority?  Yes it is nice to know some times, but no other maps show this and it just isn't necessary.  It tends to be slower roads which you need to give way on, and these are already given

Re: [OSM-talk] Wrong scale in slippy map

2009-04-23 Thread Andy Allan
On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 11:45 AM, Peter Childs pchi...@bcs.org wrote: 2009/4/23 Jacek Konieczny jaj...@jajcus.net: On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 08:23:16AM +, Jukka Rahkonen wrote: not mean that these countries are twice as large in the real life.  Scale bar values, if presented in

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-talk-be] IMPORTANT - OSM API upgrade - Upgrade finished

2009-04-22 Thread Andy Allan
On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 12:19 PM, Maarten Deen md...@xs4all.nl wrote: Ben Laenen wrote: The server is now back into a usable state, if you want to start mapping again. Little warning though: relations are completely broken with Potlatch. Don't do anything with relations in there until it's

Re: [OSM-talk] [josm-dev] Commit message not empty

2009-04-22 Thread Andy Allan
On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 3:45 PM, Ed Loach e...@loach.me.uk wrote: more people (I speculate) are leaving their Potlatch comments empty. Perhaps I should RTFM (or RTFW), but I couldn't see anywhere obvious to put a comment (and doing a quick wiki search am no clearer). Checking my

Re: [OSM-talk] Any chance of getting RSS/Atom feeds for those changeset/history pages?

2009-04-22 Thread Andy Allan
On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 4:59 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: Getting RSS/Atom feeds for these seems to be the logical next step. (I prefer Atom 1.0 + GeoRSS extension instead of RSS 2.0, by the way.) I assume that it'd be *extremely* easy to do this: just reformat the current

Re: [OSM-talk] more changeset question

2009-04-22 Thread Andy Allan
2009/4/22 Iván Sánchez Ortega i...@sanchezortega.es: El Miércoles, 22 de Abril de 2009, maning sambale escribió: Thanks! seems reasonable for my regular editing session.  What about bulk imports? There is one script to bulk-upload stuff in SVN (apps/utils/import/bulk_upload_06). It does

Re: [Talk-GB] Generating Mapnik Images to epsg:27700 (British National Grid) Projection

2009-04-22 Thread Andy Allan
Well, the purpose of the forward projection code is to take the ll variable as lat long and then use the defined projection to calculate what the projected c0 and c1 points are in projected coordinates. So you should leave the ll in degrees. But it does sound like the projection string isn't

Re: [OSM-talk] We're back

2009-04-21 Thread Andy Allan
On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 12:27 PM, Steve Hill st...@nexusuk.org wrote: The changeset stuff looks really good, and I note the welcome addition of a comment field.  Is there any way of getting an RSS feed (or similar) of recent changesets and their comments within a specific bounding box? That'd

Re: [Talk-GB] designation and designated tags - support in renderers?

2009-04-20 Thread Andy Allan
On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 12:48 PM, Nick Whitelegg nick.whitel...@solent.ac.uk wrote: Hello everyone, I'm planning to do a wholesale conversion of all my surveyed footpaths, bridleways etc to use the designation (designation=public_footpath, designation=public_bridleway etc) or designated

Re: [OSM-talk] the ref:color schema

2009-04-19 Thread Andy Allan
2009/4/19 Iván Sánchez Ortega i...@sanchezortega.es: Do you really think we can work that network-color table out, and make software that fits into osm2pgsql to derive the shields? Remember that it doesn't need to be osm2pgsql to do this - large-scale .osm manipluation can be done with

Re: [OSM-talk] Tagging dangerous areas

2009-04-19 Thread Andy Allan
On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 6:33 PM, Matt Amos zerebub...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 5:31 PM, MP singular...@gmail.com wrote: after the wembley mapping party last year i heard suggestions of a locals=angry tag. maybe we should expand that to include locals=violent or

Re: [Talk-GB] Possibly using highway=path for country footpaths

2009-04-07 Thread Andy Allan
On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 11:39 AM, Al Girling acgirl...@gcguk.demon.co.uk wrote:  Why footway exists but a tag for public footpaths doesn't is frankly beyond me. Because you're reading too much into the name. All the highway tags were initially made up to end in '...way'. So forget you're ideas

Re: [OSM-talk] more OSM coming soon

2009-03-26 Thread Andy Allan
On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 12:00 PM, Shaun McDonald sh...@shaunmcdonald.me.uk wrote: This is the weekly re-import of the data, when the render daemon is stopped for the duration. I'm not entirely sure that it is, especially since I'd have expected it to restart yesterday morning (or maybe this

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] ODbL comments from Creative Commons

2009-03-25 Thread Andy Allan
On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 5:36 PM, SteveC st...@asklater.com wrote: On 22 Mar 2009, at 06:08, 80n wrote: The complexity arguments are largely superfluous. [...] I get in my car every day and drive to work without knowing how the engine management system works but it's not a 'show stopper'. I

Re: [OSM-talk] Builk upload OSM files greater than 2megs with JOSM

2009-03-24 Thread Andy Allan
On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 7:17 PM, Sam Vekemans acrosscanadatra...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Some of my sample files are greater than 2 megs, and so i have a hard time trying to load the file onto JOSM.? My approach for uploading all that data once i get it into JOSM is simple. I would select the

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapnik: strange prioritisation/appearance of place names

2009-03-23 Thread Andy Allan
On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 12:13 PM, Adam Schreiber sa...@clemson.edu wrote: On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 8:08 AM, Elena of Valhalla elena.valha...@gmail.com wrote: finding a working algorithm that uses only objective data and is always able to select the proper item to print would be excellent, but

Re: [Talk-GB] Clarifying tagging for footway/cycleway etc

2009-03-20 Thread Andy Allan
On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 4:32 PM, Ed Loach e...@loach.me.uk wrote: So if you have a shared use cycle/footpath where the bicycle and people are above each other white on a blue sign I'd say that highway=cycleway, foot=designated, cycle=designated and highway=footway, foot=designated,

Re: [OSM-talk] immutable=yes Fwd: DEC Lands

2009-03-17 Thread Andy Allan
On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 1:30 AM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: Hi, Lars Aronsson wrote: Here's an idea: Let's make OpenStreetMap the free wiki world map. It's never going to work. How can you expect people to trust a map that can be edited by anyone? It's all right, when we find

Re: [OSM-talk] immutable=yes Fwd: DEC Lands

2009-03-16 Thread Andy Allan
On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 5:24 PM, Russ Nelson r...@cloudmade.com wrote: On Mar 16, 2009, at 12:57 PM, Ted Mielczarek wrote: If you can't edit it it shouldn't be in the OSM db. It's easy enough to set up your own map render with any external data you want. Bzzzr, wrong.  There is substantial

Re: [Talk-GB] Free National Grid Vector Layers for gas and electricity?

2009-03-16 Thread Andy Allan
On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 10:10 PM, Chris Hill chillly...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Yes, I read their TCs but it never hurts to actually ask, they might just grant us the right to use their data.  It doesn't cost much to ask. Absolutely, and it's a good attitude to just plough on and ask. But I'll

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Legal review by ITO World's lawyer

2009-03-13 Thread Andy Allan
On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 1:44 PM, Peter Miller peter.mil...@itoworld.com wrote: I have put the legal review we have received for the current license draft on the wiki. I have organised it so that we can comment and discuss the issues after each of the points on the wiki page if appropriate. I

Re: [OSM-talk] place=island rendering

2009-03-12 Thread Andy Allan
On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 11:31 AM, Ted Mielczarek t...@mielczarek.org wrote: I've noticed that there's a GNIS import going on in the USA recently, and one of the types of POIs being imported are islands, which are tagged place=island. Of course, the GNIS database contains some very tiny islands,

Re: [OSM-talk] Questions from GSoC 2009 Application

2009-03-12 Thread Andy Allan
On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 5:00 PM, Ian Dees ian.d...@gmail.com wrote: Hi everyone, I'm working on the application for GSoC 2009 and have a couple questions that others might be able to answer more effectively than I can: 1. It appears that they only allow projects with licenses approved by the

Re: [OSM-talk] immutable=yes Fwd: DEC Lands

2009-03-12 Thread Andy Allan
On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 5:36 PM, Russ Nelson r...@cloudmade.com wrote: On Mar 12, 2009, at 7:43 AM, Ted Mielczarek wrote: . However, I reject the idea that there is any data that belongs in OSM that makes no sense to edit. If you can't edit it, then by definition it shouldn't be in a

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM license change: A license to kill? - How to make a nightmare come true!

2009-03-10 Thread Andy Allan
On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 10:08 PM, Ulf Lamping ulf.lamp...@googlemail.com wrote: Now I'm asking you about a list of the OSMF members publicly. I'm not an OSMF member for the record. The OSMF is asking for an OSM license change, so I really want to know what the persons in question are that

Re: [OSM-talk] immutable=yes Fwd: DEC Lands

2009-03-10 Thread Andy Allan
On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 10:22 PM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: Hi, Russ Nelson wrote: On Mar 9, 2009, at 3:07 PM, Matthew Toups wrote:  If we can't change the data, what's the point of having it in OSM? Having consistent metadata and a consistent single-source API. That's

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