Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-us] Daily Updates to CloudMade Routing

2010-01-18 Thread Maarten Deen
Nick Black wrote: Hi Alex, Mapzen.cloudmade.com has minutely updated tiles. They are also available via maps.cloudmade.com: http://maps.cloudmade.com/?lat=51.495065lng=0.002747zoom=10styleId=6618opened_tab=0 The maps.cloudmade.com service is an alpha - so its not high availability and

Re: [OSM-talk] If you want to help with OSM, and dont know what to do, help out with the Kosovo and Albania project

2010-01-31 Thread Maarten Deen
Rob wrote: jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com wrote: We have The entire streetnetwork of Kosovo that needs to be merged and imported (from iimap, the disaster relief) Is there page anywhere that coordinates who is uploading which parts of this? I downloaded a few at random and the first 4 I

Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: Nav4All navigation shut down by Navteq

2010-01-31 Thread Maarten Deen
John Smith wrote: Anyone feel like promoting OSM? Has been done by Stefan de Konink. Reply from the CEO of Nav4All: OSM has been looked at but is no solution because there is no full coverage. Stefan asked if Nav4All would cease activities, the reply was we are still negotiating with other

Re: [OSM-talk] If you want to help with OSM, and dont know what to do, help out with the Kosovo and Albania project

2010-01-31 Thread Maarten Deen
Rob wrote: Maarten Deen wrote: Rob wrote: jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com wrote: We have The entire streetnetwork of Kosovo that needs to be merged and imported (from iimap, the disaster relief) Is there page anywhere that coordinates who is uploading which parts of this? I downloaded

Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: Nav4All navigation shut down by Navteq

2010-01-31 Thread Maarten Deen
Liz wrote: On Sun, 31 Jan 2010, Maarten Deen wrote: Has been done by Stefan de Konink. Reply from the CEO of Nav4All: OSM has been looked at but is no solution because there is no full coverage. Well no mapping service has full coverage Very true. The big gripe is the attitude I'm

Re: [OSM-talk] If you want to help with OSM, and dont know what to do, help out with the Kosovo and Albania project

2010-02-01 Thread Maarten Deen
at 12:20 PM, Rob r...@robreid.co.nz wrote: Maarten Deen wrote: That wiki table is a good idea. Let me know if you can't make it today (your day), maybe I can continue. Quick attempt: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Kosovo_iMMAP_Import I'm not a wiki expert so feel free to improve

Re: [OSM-talk] Request for user block

2010-02-04 Thread Maarten Deen
On Thu, 4 Feb 2010 11:39:26 +0100, Lars Francke lars.fran...@gmail.com wrote: Is blocking the account going to be enough to prevent someone from simply signing up for a new account and continuing to do what they were unabbated, seems like a cat and mouse game and the cat is really slow to keep

Re: [OSM-talk] KMS tags in Finland

2010-02-05 Thread Maarten Deen
On Fri, 5 Feb 2010 12:33:13 + (UTC), Jukka Rahkonen jukka.rahko...@mmmtike.fi wrote: Hi, I had a look on tagwatch: http://tagwatch.stoecker.eu/Finland/En/top_undocumented_tags.html http://tagwatch.stoecker.eu/Finland/En/top_undocumented_keys.html What are those millions of kms keys

Re: [OSM-talk] KMS tags in Finland

2010-02-05 Thread Maarten Deen
On Fri, 5 Feb 2010 12:33:13 + (UTC), Jukka Rahkonen jukka.rahko...@mmmtike.fi wrote: Hi, I had a look on tagwatch: http://tagwatch.stoecker.eu/Finland/En/top_undocumented_tags.html http://tagwatch.stoecker.eu/Finland/En/top_undocumented_keys.html What are those millions of kms keys

Re: [OSM-talk] printable maps of continents

2010-02-09 Thread Maarten Deen
On Tue, 9 Feb 2010 11:58:59 + (GMT), Joe Richards joefis...@yahoo.com wrote: I'm sure this has been asked before but searching didn't provide any satisfactory results. I would like to produce some large (e.g. A3) printed maps of continents (specifically Central America and South America),

Re: [OSM-talk] Xynthia storm/ flooding in france kills over 50

2010-03-01 Thread Maarten Deen
On Mon, 01 Mar 2010 11:25:27 +0100, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: Hi, Emilie Laffray wrote: In the current case, it is very unlikely that there would be a charter activation. What charter are both of you talking about, who decides when it gets activated, and what

Re: [OSM-talk] Project of the Week 2010Mar28 - Swimming in data

2010-03-28 Thread Maarten Deen
Richard Weait wrote: Many of the coastlines in OSM came from an import of the PGS coastline data. It was a fantastic benefit to be able to add this coastline data to OSM, and we're better off having had it. And there are many places that have aerial imagery that is now good enough to improve

Re: [OSM-talk] Post code areas

2010-04-06 Thread Maarten Deen
On Tue, 06 Apr 2010 14:52:47 +0200, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: Hi, Frederik Ramm wrote: we're thinking about importing post code areas in Germany. Are post code areas being mapped in other countries already, and if so, using what tagging schema? Thank you for the

Re: [OSM-talk] xybot edit area size

2010-04-08 Thread Maarten Deen
On Thu, 08 Apr 2010 12:45:44 +0200, Frank Sautter openstreet...@sautter.com wrote: Valent Turkovic schrieb: But still ideal situation is that bots also use much smaller areas for edits so that you see if some bot has changed something in your area of interest, right? most bots (and also

Re: [OSM-talk] xybot edit area size

2010-04-08 Thread Maarten Deen
On Thu, 08 Apr 2010 13:24:50 +0200, Frank Sautter openstreet...@sautter.com wrote: Maarten Deen schrieb: Do correct me if I'm wrong, but don't the nodes have lat/lon with them and is the location therefore known? just have a look: http://www.openstreetmap.org/api/0.6/way/101/ Oh, right

Re: [OSM-talk] Russians at it again

2010-05-07 Thread Maarten Deen
On Fri, 7 May 2010 08:10:06 +0200 (CEST), Patrick Petschge Kilian o...@petschge.de wrote: Hi, My personal opinion: Let them. I respect your opinion but I don't think that it is a good idea. But see below for details. It is a good thing they are figuring out how to enjoy OpenStreetMap

Re: [OSM-talk] Russians at it again

2010-05-07 Thread Maarten Deen
On Fri, 7 May 2010 17:18:02 +1000, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: On 7 May 2010 17:01, Maarten Deen md...@xs4all.nl wrote: Granted, this is _photograhing inside a military zone_, and not looking from a public road to a military zone, but the legality of it all depends on the law

Re: [OSM-talk] Russians at it again

2010-05-07 Thread Maarten Deen
On Fri, 7 May 2010 11:56:43 +0400, Kirill Bestoujev bestou...@gmail.com wrote: There are no rules in OSM. That is not entirely true. So my personal opinion is that we do have right to discuss anything we want about our country in out own language and you do not have any f*cking right to call

Re: [OSM-talk] Russians at it again

2010-05-07 Thread Maarten Deen
suggests that it would be ok to remove data (if the first option is voted) and that there is some kind of governing body within OSM that approves this. But if you feel that I understand this incorrectly, than I accept that. Regards, Maarten R. 2010/5/7 Maarten Deen md...@xs4all.nl: On Fri

Re: [OSM-talk] Extra zoom level needed?

2010-05-17 Thread Maarten Deen
On Mon, 17 May 2010 13:02:53 +0100, Gregory nomoregra...@googlemail.com wrote: Now a lot of places are full of pro-mappers, we are doing house numbers, shops, football pitch lines... Do we need an extra zoom level? For example I'm learning to add buildings/shops and see 

Re: [OSM-talk] Extra zoom level needed?

2010-05-17 Thread Maarten Deen
On Mon, 17 May 2010 14:32:34 +0200, Fabio Alessandro Locati fabioloc...@gmail.com wrote: Adding a zoomlevel adds 4 tiles for each tile in the previous zoomlevel. You'll go from 91 billion tiles to 366 billion. This meaning you need 4 times the load to generate, 4 times the storage to hold

Re: [OSM-talk] [Geowanking] ?

2010-05-20 Thread Maarten Deen
Geowanking? Don't me wrong, but wanking does not have a very favourable connotation in my book. What is geowanking about? Regards, Maarten ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Google Hiring 300 Temps to Fix Map Errors

2010-05-21 Thread Maarten Deen
Anthony wrote: OSM: using 10,000 people to do what Google does with 300. ;) Can we make a Best quotes of OSM on the wiki? :D Maarten On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 11:50 AM, Ian Dees ian.d...@gmail.com mailto:ian.d...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: [OSM-talk] US to spend $8bn upgrading GPS constellation

2010-05-26 Thread Maarten Deen
On Wed, 26 May 2010 20:53:38 +1000, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: The United States is about to give the now nearly ubiquitous Global Positioning System an $8 billion overhaul. The improvements, which involve replacing each of the 24 aging GPS satellites, are estimated to take

Re: [OSM-talk] US to spend $8bn upgrading GPS constellation

2010-05-26 Thread Maarten Deen
On Wed, 26 May 2010 13:50:58 +0200, Frank Fesevur f...@users.sourceforge.net wrote: 2010/5/26 Maarten Deen: From the article: Without it, ATMs would stop spitting out cash, Wall Street could blunder billions of dollars in stock trades and clueless drivers would get lost. Can someone explain

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM XAPI doubt

2010-06-02 Thread Maarten Deen
On Wed, 2 Jun 2010 00:39:14 -0700 (PDT), Juan Lucas Domínguez Rubio juan_lucas...@yahoo.com wrote: Dear list, Anybody knows why the first query works and the second doesn't? wget http://www.informationfreeway.org/api/0.6/node[bbox=-82.90108,21.82252,-82.88907,21.82971]

Re: [OSM-talk] Cloudmade routing issue

2010-06-02 Thread Maarten Deen
Nathan Edgars II wrote: I know this isn't the Cloudmade list, but a recent thread here got some results. I used the feedback link but never got a response. That's strange. I've always gotten a response from Cloudmade. If you go to

Re: [OSM-talk] Giving everything a unique ID

2010-06-03 Thread Maarten Deen
On Wed, 2 Jun 2010 17:52:25 -0700 (PDT), Simon Biber simonbi...@yahoo.com.au wrote: Gregory nomoregra...@googlemail.com wrote: If I'm mapping I try and keep nodes intact and edit the tagging to preserve the ID and history, but there are cases where this can't happen. Another example where

[OSM-talk] Routing on OSM maps on a Garmin device

2010-06-14 Thread Maarten Deen
I have a Garmin Nüvi 205 which I normally load with an OSM map if I go to Germany. The standard map on the device is NL-BE-FR with bordersections of DE. Usually I get the tiles I need from Lambertus, but yesterday I took the basemap for germany from All_in_one_Garmin_Map. While I was at the far

Re: [OSM-talk] Routing on OSM maps on a Garmin device

2010-06-14 Thread Maarten Deen
M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: 2010/6/14 Maarten Deen md...@xs4all.nl: Cloudmade calculates both routes as expected, so I would exclude data error (e.g. non-connected roads) from the problem. Don't know how often cloudmate refreshes it's routing data, but if it's the same they use

Re: [OSM-talk] Routing on OSM maps on a Garmin device

2010-06-15 Thread Maarten Deen
On Tue, 15 Jun 2010 15:20:07 +0200, Lambertus o...@na1400.info wrote: On 2010-06-15 01:53, Liz wrote: On Mon, 14 Jun 2010, Maarten Deen wrote: Does anyone have similar experiences, and maybe an explanation why this happenes? Are the OSM maps too detailed for a simple device like

Re: [OSM-talk] rural highway tagging: residential or track

2010-06-28 Thread Maarten Deen
On Mon, 28 Jun 2010 07:08:39 -0400, Stan Berka stan.be...@gmail.com wrote: I have frequently a tagging dilemma. See this example: Coburn Rd on this location: http://osm.org/go/z...@yoeg-- [1] (N of US 2). It was tagged as residential, but I've been there two days ago and it's a decent

Re: [OSM-talk] Rendering street names across several ways

2010-07-01 Thread Maarten Deen
On Thu, 1 Jul 2010 18:41:13 +1000, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 5:59 PM, Igor Brejc igor.br...@gmail.com wrote: This results in even more complicated situation and even more work to maintain such data. And even if do you follow this practice, there will still

Re: [OSM-talk] correcting/helping inexperienced mappers

2010-07-02 Thread Maarten Deen
On Fri, 2 Jul 2010 07:30:11 -0400, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote: On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 12:07 AM, Robin Paulson robin.paul...@gmail.com wrote: there's a mapper near me, who's very active adding data. the problem is, he's making a lot of mistakes, such as roads not joining correctly

Re: [OSM-talk] Osm.org Routing Demo

2010-07-02 Thread Maarten Deen
On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 9:03 AM, Nic Roets nro...@gmail.com wrote: I made a demonstration of how the yournavigation.org website can be embedded inside osm.org. Check it out: http://nroets.dev.openstreetmap.org/demo/?lat=52.32796lon=5.62046zoom=15layers=B000FTFT I have two issues with it: - in

Re: [OSM-talk] Osm.org Routing Demo

2010-07-03 Thread Maarten Deen
On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 9:03 AM, Nic Roets nro...@gmail.com wrote: I made a demonstration of how the yournavigation.org website can be embedded inside osm.org. Check it out: http://nroets.dev.openstreetmap.org/demo/?lat=52.32796lon=5.62046zoom=15layers=B000FTFT Although I have managed to get

Re: [OSM-talk] Osm.org Routing Demo

2010-07-03 Thread Maarten Deen
Maarten Deen wrote: On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 9:03 AM, Nic Roets nro...@gmail.com wrote: I made a demonstration of how the yournavigation.org website can be embedded inside osm.org. Check it out: http://nroets.dev.openstreetmap.org/demo/?lat=52.32796lon=5.62046zoom=15layers=B000FTFT Although I

[OSM-talk] Adding a relation to a relation in Potlatch

2010-07-06 Thread Maarten Deen
Is it possible to add a relation to a relation in Potlatch? I've tried some things but haven't found a way yet. Regards, Maarten ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] maori/english search oddities for nz towns

2010-07-06 Thread Maarten Deen
On Wed, 7 Jul 2010 14:40:28 +1000, Stephen Hope slh...@gmail.com wrote: Chrome - Pahia, New Zealand Firefox 3.6.6 - Pahia, New Zealand IE 8.0 - Pahia, Aotearoa Weird. Checking my language options in IE, the only language listed is English, Australian. Seems to be a general problem. I get

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapquest launches site based on OSM!

2010-07-09 Thread Maarten Deen
On Fri, 09 Jul 2010 10:11:02 +0100, SomeoneElse li...@mail.atownsend.org.uk wrote: On 09/07/2010 09:50, David Ellams wrote: http://blogs.wsj.com/digits/2010/07/09/aols-mapquest-looks-to-wikipedia-model-for-mapping/ http://open.mapquest.co.uk/ Woohoo! An OSM map with a scale on it!

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapquest launches site based on OSM!

2010-07-09 Thread Maarten Deen
On Fri, 9 Jul 2010 12:30:10 +0300, Peteris Krisjanis pec...@gmail.com wrote: 2010/7/9 Maarten Deen md...@xs4all.nl: On Fri, 09 Jul 2010 10:11:02 +0100, SomeoneElse li...@mail.atownsend.org.uk wrote: On 09/07/2010 09:50, David Ellams wrote: http://blogs.wsj.com/digits/2010/07/09/aols-mapquest

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapquest launches site based on OSM!

2010-07-09 Thread Maarten Deen
, Maarten Richard On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 11:03 AM, Maarten Deen md...@xs4all.nl wrote: On Fri, 9 Jul 2010 12:30:10 +0300, Peteris Krisjanis pec...@gmail.com wrote: 2010/7/9 Maarten Deen md...@xs4all.nl: On Fri, 09 Jul 2010 10:11:02 +0100, SomeoneElse li...@mail.atownsend.org.uk wrote

Re: [OSM-talk] Divided/Non-Divided Intersection

2010-07-11 Thread Maarten Deen
John Smith wrote: On 11 July 2010 06:43, Chris Dombroski cdombroski+...@icanttype.org wrote: I ask because I think this is the cause of stupid GPS directions at times make a left, followed by a slight right Isn't that a problem with the routing software, not the data? Not IMHO. If you have

Re: [OSM-talk] Divided/Non-Divided Intersection

2010-07-12 Thread Maarten Deen
On Sun, 11 Jul 2010 22:03:02 -0700, Alan Mintz alan_mintz+...@earthlink.net wrote: At 2010-07-10 18:39, John Smith wrote: On 11 July 2010 06:43, Chris Dombroski cdombroski+...@icanttype.org wrote: I ask because I think this is the cause of stupid GPS directions at times make a left, followed

Re: [OSM-talk] Garmin Maps

2010-07-15 Thread Maarten Deen
On Wed, 14 Jul 2010 08:28:36 -0700, Sam Vekemans acrosscanadatra...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, Is there an #osm-garmin IRC chat for those who specialize in making custom garmin maps? I think there is a need to combine the tallent that is collectively known about all the tools available to

Re: [OSM-talk] Naming issues in kosovo

2011-12-11 Thread Maarten Deen
Mike Dupont wrote: In the area of mitrovia which we have been discussing : http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/448562189 here he changed the main name to Cyrillic . Administrative circumstances around the railways in northern Kosovo are a bit difficult. The northern part up to Zvecan

Re: [OSM-talk] Who mapped it first with ref to forth coming deletions - implication

2011-12-14 Thread Maarten Deen
On 14-12-2011 19:32, Richard Weait wrote: On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 1:15 PM, john whelanjwhelan0...@gmail.com wrote: So essentially all data that existed on this date will need to be deleted since we can't be sure who entered or edited it or if they have agreed to the new license if the .odbl

Re: [OSM-talk] Who mapped it first with ref to forth coming deletions - implication

2011-12-14 Thread Maarten Deen
On 14-12-2011 20:32, Richard Fairhurst wrote: Maarten Deen wrote: Well, since all history of that data before API v0.5 is lost Hey hey hey. Slow down. Data before API 0.5 is _not_ lost. It is archived. That is something different than what 80n said earlier, quoting a message from Frederik

Re: [OSM-talk] Permission for my work

2011-12-16 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2011-12-16 11:08, Janko Mihelić wrote: It seems odbl.de [11] isn't very accurate at dividing data. It says here you contributed a lot: http://odbl.de/croatia.html [12] One would need to know what boundaries are used to define Croatia in that list. Is it the exact border as it exists in

Re: [OSM-talk] tile rendereing total space

2012-01-06 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2012-01-06 11:28, Frans Thamura wrote: hi all anyone have try to make all tiles render, without we have to click the mapnik/map we have full total planet for global, and wanna to make the tile render, so everyone that come to new map, (never clicked before), can see the map, without have

Re: [OSM-talk] tile rendereing total space

2012-01-06 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2012-01-06 11:49, Maarten Deen wrote: The same pages says that on z18 only 0.9% of all tiles have ever been viewed. You may want to decided to generate z17 and z18 only in specific places, that will reduce diskspace by 75% also. 95% that is! Maarten

[OSM-talk] Mapping guidelines (was: Re: what is happening here - potlatch oddness with orange highlights?)

2012-01-16 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2012-01-16 23:27, Robin Paulson wrote: http://www.openstreetmap.org/edit?lat=-36.878407lon=174.741523zoom=19 the landuse polygon has an orange highlight on it, why does it do that? Just a hint on mapping (not to Robin in particular): I think it is unnecessary to cut up

Re: [OSM-talk] Wind turbines no longer rendered on mapnik layer

2012-02-15 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2012-02-15 09:26, Morten Kjeldgaard wrote: It is true that the power_source tag is deprecated, but being deprecated does IMHO not mean that a tag should be removed in a massive clean-up operation, especially if you do not follow up on the consequences of such a change. Adding the new

Re: [OSM-talk] Finding untagged dead-ends

2012-02-15 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2012-02-15 11:27, Chris Hill wrote: /me is waiting for someone to make the obvious and completely useless suggestion of some bonkers noexit hierarchy. noexit=bus, noexit=mouse, noexit=elephant, noexit=blue_whale No, please! Completely the wrong tagging style! I would suggest for you:

[OSM-talk] 'Foursquare Says Farewell to Google Maps, Joins OpenStreetMap Movement'

2012-03-01 Thread Maarten Deen
From http://mashable.com/2012/02/29/foursquare-openstreetmap/: Foursquare is parting ways with Google Maps in favor of crowdsourced maps created by the OpenStreetMap project. I think this is a huge pat on the back for the OSM community. Maarten

Re: [OSM-talk] iPhoto for iOS Not Using Google Maps

2012-03-08 Thread Maarten Deen
Oh yes, it's OSM. I've been mapping a lot of forest tracks in my neighborhood [1] and indicated some tracks that I didn't walk with only a short stub. Apple has all these stubs. It also has all the local names that Google does not have and that are a combination of dutch AND data, BAG data and

Re: [OSM-talk] Nice problem to have

2012-03-09 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2012-03-09 08:50, Frederik Ramm wrote: On 03/09/12 01:10, Martijn van Exel wrote: http://www.macrumors.com/2012/03/08/apple-using-openstreetmap-data-in-iphoto-for-ios/ - interesting to see the irrational Apple fanboy commentary.. It's a recurring motive. Company switches to OSM - users

Re: [OSM-talk] No attribution on osm.org?

2012-03-09 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2012-03-09 11:36, Floris Looijesteijn wrote: No. That page only talks about how you should attribute if you're using OSM yourself. I nowhere read the required © OpenStreetMap contributors, CC BY-SA for the map on osm.org. Maybe my remark was a bit blunt, and indeed didn't recently change

Re: [OSM-talk] Ways in old mediterranean and similar towns.

2012-03-21 Thread Maarten Deen
On 21-3-2012 17:35, Janko Mihelić wrote: Mappers in these towns treat ways in old parts of their town as something that can't be a footpath. For some reason it insults their vision of those ways. That's why they tag them as pedestrian highways although no cars ever went through them (well,

Re: [OSM-talk] Ways in old mediterranean and similar towns.

2012-03-22 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2012-03-22 09:47, Janko Mihelić wrote: 2012/3/21 John F. Eldredge j...@jfeldredge.com [2] Maarten Deen md...@xs4all.nl [1] wrote: So why would it be incorrect to map these as pedestrian? The fact that motorvehicles don't use them has nothing to do with it. Maarten Yes, the definition

Re: [OSM-talk] Ways in old mediterranean and similar towns.

2012-03-22 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2012-03-22 10:11, Janko Mihelić wrote: 2012/3/22 Maarten Deen md...@xs4all.nl [1] It's difficult to make a precise definition of course. Some ideas of mine: No hard surface: footpath No houses next to it: footpath High use: pedestrian Urban area: pedestrian The wide expanse is in the sense

Re: [OSM-talk] Imagery parallax error in high altitude areas

2012-04-10 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2012-04-10 13:45, Arun Ganesh wrote: Is there an accurate source for the coordinates of mountain peaks? We can check how bad the parallax errors are on the satellite imagery. Would it even be possible to identify mountain peaks on satellite imagery? I've been looking at Mont Blanc and

Re: [OSM-talk] Transcription and internationalization in place names

2012-04-16 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2012-04-16 08:32, Claudius wrote: Am 16.04.2012 06:33, Stephan Knauss: When the crisis in Libya started to heat up I was asked if I could provide bilingual rendering which is still online on http://libya.osm-tools.org/ Is this of use for anybody? If no one cares for the bilingual rendering

Re: [OSM-talk] Transcription and 'internationalization' in place names

2012-04-16 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2012-04-16 14:15, Joseph Reeves wrote: As for Korea: Should we add name:ko=서울특별시? Otherwise, how do we know the Korean name for this city? It seems to me that adding name:ko is duplicating data. We should be using the local names for the name: tag, so the Korean can go in there. I would

[OSM-talk] Mapnik rendering issue with *_link roads

2012-05-04 Thread Maarten Deen
I finally found out what the issue is with this [1] situation. My issue with it is that IMHO it is not good to see the unclassified road rendered on top of the primary_link road. I made a test here [2] where the left primary is a primary_link and the right primary is a primary proper.

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM cycle map - ?excessive focus on long-distance routes

2012-05-09 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2012-05-09 14:11, Richard Mann wrote: My point is that tagging should allow both types of routes to be recorded, so different renderings can be produced for different purposes (and indeed routers can use the information as well, if they want to). I know that different route networks apply

Re: [OSM-talk] Worst of OSM

2012-05-15 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2012-05-15 12:33, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: I couldn't find a contact possibilty on the page, that's why I try it here. Worst of OSM is a nice idea IMHO: http://worstofosm.tumblr.com/ What I really miss though is a possibility to comment / discuss the examples. This could help to explain

Re: [OSM-talk] Worst of OSM

2012-05-15 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2012-05-15 15:37, Pieren wrote: Italian forest or the spanish place names without roads or the street The problem with the spanish place names is not that there are no roads connecting them, the problem is that they are not places. The area is unpopulated. There is not even a house to be

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM : It's a shame !!!

2012-05-29 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2012-05-29 08:41, Thomas Davie wrote: It's So Funny has not copied your data here, he has simply modified it (in this case, changing highway=residential to highway=unclassified). When the redaction bot is unleashed, if you have still not accepted the CTs (do you have a particular reason not

[OSM-talk] TomTom is thumping us

2012-05-29 Thread Maarten Deen
Ok, they don't name us, but I think a leading open source map does refer to us. http://www.tomtom.com/en_gb/licensing/newsletter/201205/didyouknow/ Oh wauw. We're not perfect. Let's close up the shop. Thanks to SteveC for all the effort, but it wasn't enough. Well, probably one of the very

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM : It's a shame !!!

2012-05-29 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2012-05-29 09:49, Nathan Edgars II wrote: On 5/29/2012 3:00 AM, Maarten Deen wrote: On 2012-05-29 08:41, Thomas Davie wrote: It's So Funny has not copied your data here, he has simply modified it (in this case, changing highway=residential to highway=unclassified). When the redaction bot

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM : It's a shame !!!

2012-05-29 Thread Maarten Deen
editing. Regards, Maarten -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: Maarten Deen [mailto:md...@xs4all.nl] Verzonden: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 10:11 AM Aan: talk@openstreetmap.org Onderwerp: Re: [OSM-talk] OSM : It's a shame !!! On 2012-05-29 09:49, Nathan Edgars II wrote: On 5/29/2012 3:00 AM

Re: [OSM-talk] Changing capitalization (Lima)

2012-05-31 Thread Maarten Deen
On 31-5-2012 17:39, Alex Barth wrote: We're currently working with Ruben (user Rub21) on fixing street name capitalization in Lima - a lot of the street names are ALL CAPS where they should be properly capitalized. We're doing this work manually right now and are well under way. It's quite

Re: [OSM-talk] Assistance on reverting deletion of a relation

2012-06-05 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2012-06-05 09:46, Carsten Nielsen wrote: Can somebody explain how to revert a deleted relation to the last revision before the deletion ? The relation http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/157837 was accidentally deleted as part of a changeset containing other changes that should not

Re: [OSM-talk] Import guidelines review

2012-06-06 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2012-06-07 00:20, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: 2012/6/7 Clifford Snow cliff...@snowandsnow.us: I've only been involved with OSM for a short while, but I believe that imports do help.  I have fixed some of the bad TIGER imports but without them much of the US wouldn't be mapped. That is an

Re: [OSM-talk] Tag combinations: amenity and highway

2012-06-13 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2012-06-12 22:28, Peter Wendorff wrote: 32 (tourist, bus_stop): amenity=tourist is over all only 32 times in the database, so at least I would count amenity=tourist as useless. Could it be meant as a bus stop for tourist/sightseeing busses? Regards, Maarten

[OSM-talk] Stale tiles?

2012-06-20 Thread Maarten Deen
I did an update this morning on this area [1] with the webstart version of JOSM, but for some reason mapnik does not render the tiles. What's more, tile 18/135429/87151 shows as clean, but rendered on june 9th. The wiki [3] states that tiles older than 7 days will be marked dirty. Other tiles

Re: [OSM-talk] Stale tiles?

2012-06-20 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2012-06-20 09:50, Grant Slater wrote: On 20 June 2012 07:28, Maarten Deen md...@xs4all.nl wrote: I did an update this morning on this area [1] with the webstart version of JOSM, but for some reason mapnik does not render the tiles. What's more, tile 18/135429/87151 shows as clean

[OSM-talk] API not responding

2012-06-24 Thread Maarten Deen
Some 5 minutes ago the API stopped responding to queries. Soup and fiddlestick show a drop in the munin stats. Anyone able to check? Regards, Maarten ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] API not responding

2012-06-24 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2012-06-25 07:12, Toby Murray wrote: According to some chatter I saw go past on IRC, ramoth (the database server) went offline for a while tonight. Admins were notified automatically and fixed it as soon as they were able. Not sure if they determined a cause before going (back?) to bed. I

Re: [OSM-talk] API not responding

2012-06-25 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2012-06-25 08:05, Toby Murray wrote: On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 12:53 AM, Maarten Deen md...@xs4all.nl wrote: On 2012-06-25 07:12, Toby Murray wrote: According to some chatter I saw go past on IRC, ramoth (the database server) went offline for a while tonight. Admins were notified

[OSM-talk] '165TB of New Imagery Added to Bing Maps'

2012-06-26 Thread Maarten Deen
From http://www.bing.com/community/site_blogs/b/maps/archive/2012/06/25/released-our-largest-satellite-publication.aspx: Today we’re thrilled to announce the publication of our largest satellite release to date. In fact, this release is larger than all of our past Aerial releases combined!

Re: [OSM-talk] Lightning fast car routing built on OpenStreetMap data, with draggable routes

2012-07-11 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2012-07-11 10:45, valent.turko...@gmail.com wrote: Hi guys, this routing map based on OSM is awesome, drag and drop is great, too bad it is unusable until turn restrictions get supported :( But it is a great demo. We're still talking about http://map.project-osrm.org aren't we? osrm

[OSM-talk] Need some clarification on edits

2012-07-18 Thread Maarten Deen
Hi, I'm investigating area [1], and especially why the two unclassified ways called Trappistenweg and the track to the north connect to the motorway A74 (which is incorrect). If I understand correctly, a grey checkbox in the history in JOSM means a non-agreeer to the CT. Those edits should be

Re: [OSM-talk] OT - Unusual Bing imagery

2012-07-18 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2012-07-19 03:43, Mike N wrote: I spotted this today as I was entering survey information: http://greenvilleopenmap.info/Airplane.jpg I didn't realize that the Bing planes flew so high. I would guess that that plane is flying really low. Probably in approach to a landing. Maarten

Re: [OSM-talk] Tools to help find areas corrupted by redaction

2012-07-27 Thread Maarten Deen
Alan Mintz wrote: For those of you that have been doing cleanup after the redaction, are you noticing anything in particular that could benefit from automated help? - A large quantity of unconnected nodes. I've see a number of cases where the way is gone but the nodes of that way are still

[OSM-talk] Explanation for image of the week 31?

2012-07-30 Thread Maarten Deen
What's the joke on the current image of the week? It's a reference to Harry Potter and the Olympics? Is it a rendering of a real Olympics stadium or what? And why are the locations and such scrambled? I don't understand it. Regards, Maarten ___

Re: [OSM-talk] OSMF Board auto industry / What's the story?

2012-08-09 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2012-08-09 14:36, Rob Nickerson wrote: For mappers which are not OSMF members but interested in the response... http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/osmf-talk/2012-August/001618.html The response includes a clear action for OSM/OSMF. That is they would love to see a roadmap for how

Re: [OSM-talk] OSMF Board auto industry / What's the story?

2012-08-09 Thread Maarten Deen
And I'm forgetting the biggest issue: additional effort to convert the map data into their proprietary format due to the lack of structural information. If convert the map into their proprietary format is only something that can be done at the car manufacturers mercy, as in: they don't

Re: [OSM-talk] Import guidelines OSMF/DWG governance

2012-09-19 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2012-09-19 05:36, Willi wrote: I really don't like the attitude expressed by several people here in response to this subject and which is already contained in the subject itself OSMF/DWG governance. Governance. There's no governance. DWG is a group and everybody is free to join it. The

[OSM-talk] Anglo (- Dutch) translation guide (was: Re: Import guidelines OSMF/DWG governance)

2012-09-19 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2012-09-19 12:04, Richard Fairhurst wrote: It's also been observed, quite rightly, that the nuances of British English - which tends to gently suggest when other languages would say you MUST!!!?!1 - are not easily appreciated by non-native speakers. We had a For this I always use the

Re: [OSM-talk] Wiki Translation

2012-10-01 Thread Maarten Deen
If I read the Template:Languages correctly, there is a list of 7 languages with a dedicated namespace, a list of not more than 50 major languages without dedicated namespace and the rest. Indonesian (id) is currently in the rest. Is it possible to make a list of wiki pages that have been

Re: [OSM-talk] Who is a good mapper? Who isn't?

2012-10-10 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2012-10-10 22:22, Richard Weait wrote: What are the results? Some respondents mentioned that close-but-not-touching ways made for a bad mapper but were generally very understanding on this point. It was seen more as an indication of inexperience. The Big Pet Peeve that identified bad

[OSM-talk] Wiki login redirect

2012-10-18 Thread Maarten Deen
I haven't noticed this before a few weeks ago, but when you visit a page in the wiki and then login, you are redirected to the main page. This is not very convenient, because logging in after navigating to a page is usually for one purpose only: to edit the page. And certainly users that have

[OSM-talk] Tool to detect incorrect oneways?

2012-11-12 Thread Maarten Deen
Recently I came across a strech of motorway that oneway=yes set on all sections, but parts were inverted. In ASCII art, you had a road like o1o2o1o1o Is there a tool to detect this? Keepright I think only checks deadend oneways. Regards, Maarten

Re: [OSM-talk] Tool to detect incorrect oneways?

2012-11-12 Thread Maarten Deen
. Moreover: the osrm website does not give a URL that you can use to download an area in JOSM and is therefor not really useful for this. Regards, Maarten -Original Message- From: Maarten Deen [mailto:md...@xs4all.nl] Sent: 12 November 2012 10:28 To: talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: [OSM

[OSM-talk] History of relation 20773

2012-11-16 Thread Maarten Deen
Relation 20773 is currently at v1159. I can get the XML back to v1155 (http://api.openstreetmap.org/api/0.6/relation/20773/1155), but versions before that don't not show anything. When a relation is deleted, I should still get the base info with at least relation id=20773 visible=false, should

Re: [OSM-talk] History of relation 20773

2012-11-16 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2012-11-16 11:03, Tom Hughes wrote: On 16/11/12 08:30, Maarten Deen wrote: Relation 20773 is currently at v1159. I can get the XML back to v1155 (http://api.openstreetmap.org/api/0.6/relation/20773/1155), but versions before that don't not show anything. When a relation is deleted, I

Re: [OSM-talk] History of relation 20773

2012-11-16 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2012-11-16 11:26, Tom Hughes wrote: On 16/11/12 09:16, Maarten Deen wrote: Can't the API give out some kind of information in such cases? An XML message of some sort? Now you get nothing. No you don't, you should be getting 403 Forbidden meaning that you are not allowed to access

Re: [OSM-talk] there are lots of falkland islands

2012-11-21 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2012-11-21 11:23, Robin Paulson wrote: tens, possibly hundreds in fact. http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-51.8629lon=-58.2445zoom=13layers=M http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-51.8315lon=-58.9263zoom=12layers=M perhaps an import gone wrong? I think it is because all the Falkand Islands

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