[OSM-talk] building= Modified Proposal - Request For Comments

2007-12-31 Thread Mike Collinson
The original proposal has been open since July so I hope original proposer does not mind me tightening up it in order to open formal voting 14th Jan. I think it will now meet all or most of the concerns raised. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Proposed_features/Building FYI, this tag

Re: [OSM-talk] GpsWeather: When conditions for mapping are good

2008-01-02 Thread Mike Collinson
At 10:11 PM 2/01/2008, ivom wrote: Folks! From time to time, I am suffering from the limited reception capabilities of my Garmin Etrex Venture Cx. I guess this is a recognizable state of being, during a mapping session in urban canyons, walking around with an accuracy of 17 meters or more...

Re: [OSM-talk] Almost one way streets

2008-01-05 Thread Mike Collinson
At 12:45 PM 5/01/2008, Alex S. wrote: Mark Williams wrote: Alex S. wrote: I would like to know, too, as there is one street in my area that is one-way for cars and has a separate two-way lane for non-motor traffic (bike, rollerblade, etc). That I think I'd tag as 2 ways, if they're

Re: [OSM-talk] Copyright and old maps

2008-01-26 Thread Mike Collinson
At 08:03 PM 26/01/2008, Gregory wrote: Hi all, I was wondering about going to the local records office to look at old maps. Maybe use some to speed up an initial set of data for OSM (and building outlines which I can't get), and maybe just use some for interest to use on my website etc. What

Re: [OSM-talk] Lighthouses? Should they be rendering?

2008-02-09 Thread Mike Collinson
At 04:25 PM 9/02/2008, Lauri Hahne wrote: On 09/02/2008, Dermot McNally [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: PS: I'd still love to see those lighthouses we do map appearing on the rendered output. Usually that requires pressuring the right guys in irc. Or just politely asking, :-) . More seriously, I'd

Re: [OSM-talk] Straw Poll - Disk space used by OSM photos/audio

2008-02-12 Thread Mike Collinson
At 05:57 PM 12/02/2008, John McKerrell wrote: On 11 Feb 2008, at 08:13, Michael Collinson wrote: At 11:29 PM 2/10/2008, Andy Robinson wrote: On 10/02/2008, Thomas Walraet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andy Robinson wrote: I started taking photos in March 2006. Since then I've taken 14,000

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapping with a data logger

2008-03-23 Thread Mike Collinson
At 03:24 AM 23/03/2008, S Knox wrote: Dear All, I'm going to Cuba in early April, and would like to map some of the roads there. Unfortunately, I have discovered that GPS equiptment is not permitted and anything found during searches will be confiscated, or at the very least impounded until

Re: [OSM-talk] Tagging HAM radio repeaters.

2008-03-30 Thread Mike Collinson
At 06:48 AM 30/03/2008, Kyle Gordon wrote: Jon Stockill wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also any objection to a closed wey showing coverage limit, and how should this be tagged? (would probably need a wey per transmitter frequency). Coverage would depend a great deal on the

Re: [OSM-talk] mapping while hiking

2008-04-26 Thread Mike Collinson
At 04:13 AM 26/04/2008, Charles Basenga Kiyanda wrote: This is slightly off-topic, but does anyone have a trick to deal with the gps when tagging while hiking trails? I carry a garmin etrex legend Cx (unfortunately not the H version) and I find that it has to be looking directly up and flat to

[OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap State Of The Map 2008 conference early-bird registration

2008-04-26 Thread Mike Collinson
Blatant Advertising ON There's just over a week to go for early bird registration for OpenStreetMap's second international conference in Limerick, Ireland on the weekend of 12-13 July 2008. It is a great opportunity to meet your fellow mappers from all over the world.

Re: [OSM-talk] Wide tracks with cycle access

2008-05-01 Thread Mike Collinson
At 09:35 PM 30/04/2008, Nick Whitelegg wrote: Hello everyone, Slight dilemma with what to do about wide, off road (countryside) tracks with official cycle access, in the light of the countryside mapping suggestions I made last week on the wiki. How do cyclists in general tag these?

Re: [OSM-talk] new potlatch issues

2008-05-01 Thread Mike Collinson
At 01:29 PM 1/05/2008, Richard Fairhurst wrote: Robin Paulson wrote: richard, i see you've rolled out some changes as part of potlatch 0.8c, including huge thick ways...could you roll them back please? they're very obtrusive and obscure a lot of the yahoo imagery underneath. Heh, you

Re: [OSM-talk] Wide tracks with cycle access

2008-05-01 Thread Mike Collinson
At 01:01 PM 1/05/2008, Martin Simon wrote: Am Donnerstag, 1. Mai 2008 11:56:16 schrieb Andy Robinson (blackadder): Perhaps this is the better way to think about it. I generally don't like subjective tagging, but in this instance giving an opinion about how usable a section of way is might be

Re: [OSM-talk] Users whose contributions are in the public domain

2008-05-04 Thread Mike Collinson
At 01:33 PM 4/05/2008, Ari Torhamo wrote: la, 2008-05-03 kello 17:39 -0400, Ted Mielczarek kirjoitti: Why else are we contributing this data if not for people to *use* it? I suggest you go and present this breath taking argument to RMS, and we might soon get an updated, more free version of

[OSM-talk] SOTM 2008 travel and accommodation information

2008-05-04 Thread Mike Collinson
There's just one day more for early bird registration for OpenStreetMap's second international conference in Limerick, Ireland on the weekend of 12-13 July 2008. Here's some info and links to help you plan your trip there. Feel free to improve/update the wiki pages if you can. Registration

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Bridge proposal

2008-05-13 Thread Mike Collinson
At 11:11 AM 13/05/2008, Raphael Studer wrote: I've formally written up my Bridge proposal, as mentioned here a week or two ago: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Proposed_features/Bridge Does someone care about this proposal? Regards Rapahel It seems so:

Re: [OSM-talk] Zero point tag?

2008-05-15 Thread Mike Collinson
At 05:00 AM 15/05/2008, Francois De Ryckel wrote: Hello everyone, How would you tag the zero point of a country? Shouldn't be an important tag as distances in a country are measure from that point? Thanks for the advices. François de Ryckel François, I don't know if this will suit your

[OSM-talk] David Rumsey Historical Map Collection

2008-05-15 Thread Mike Collinson
Not sure how useful this will be to actual OSM mapping as a source of locality names but it makes an interesting browse: http://rumsey.geogarage.com/David Rumsey Historical Map Collection http://rumsey.geogarage.com/ 120 historical maps scattered around the world with a zoom facility

Re: [OSM-talk] Description nodes on the cycle map?

2008-05-21 Thread Mike Collinson
At 01:04 AM 21/05/2008, Andy Allan wrote: On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 8:16 PM, OJ W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is it possible to add descriptions that would be visible on the detailed zoom of the cycle map? e.g. and now there are no NCN signs until Salford, or ignore misleading sign here - that

Re: [OSM-talk] Tagwatch for europe

2008-07-05 Thread Mike Collinson
At 11:47 AM 5/07/2008, Etric Celine wrote: Am Samstag, 5. Juli 2008 09:54:38 schrieb Gervase Markham: What we really need is a tagwatch where you can click one of those, correct it, and it fixes all instances in the database. Now _that_ would be powerful and useful. I can offer a direct link

Re: [OSM-talk] UK post box data

2008-07-05 Thread Mike Collinson
At 03:36 PM 5/07/2008, Tom Taylor wrote: Hello all, I recently made a Freedom of Information Act request for the location of every UK post box. Royal Mail responded with a 1600 page PDF containing their info. http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/location_of_every_post_box_that I did some

Re: [OSM-talk] Is it land or sea: how to map a swamp?

2008-07-09 Thread Mike Collinson
I agree with Stephen's comments and add that I follow the rule if in doubt, map it as land since we don't have the luxury of being able to map average high water marks or highest spring tide mark that a government agency might use. If it is something that I can walk out and see most of the day

Re: [OSM-talk] Misclassified roads

2008-07-09 Thread Mike Collinson
At 05:03 PM 9/07/2008, Steve Hill wrote: On Wed, 9 Jul 2008, Chris Hill wrote: I would be strongly against a global change of highway=unclassified - all of the roads I have tagged as unclassified deserve to be so. I have been working partly on a very rural area, where many of the roads are

Re: [OSM-talk] Problems at Dublin airport

2008-07-10 Thread Mike Collinson
[my incoming email is down so apologies if I am duplicating what others have said] Though all flights were cancelled on Wednesday night the airport is open again today, Thur: http://www.dublinairport.com/flight-information/live-arrivals.asp Early morning flights were on time and there seems

Re: [OSM-talk] Problems at Dublin airport - Latest

2008-07-10 Thread Mike Collinson
I arrived in Dublin today OK. Flights are going in and out without cancellation but they are have to space flights a bit more than usual so you may have about a 30 minute delay. Mike At 09:48 AM 10/07/2008, Mike Collinson wrote: [my incoming email is down so apologies if I am duplicating what

Re: [OSM-talk] Pubs on mapnik layer - can we remove them?

2008-07-11 Thread Mike Collinson
While it might not help Tom's immediate needs, a Next Big Thing for the slippy map would be the introduction of selective rendering on the Export tag for either of the main layers. Particularly POIs. For example the ability to do a SOTM location map with, say, ATMs, eating places and

Re: [OSM-talk] Is it land or sea: how to map a swamp?

2008-07-11 Thread Mike Collinson
expect to find coastline on the open-sea border of this. Mark Mike Collinson wrote: I agree with Stephen's comments and add that I follow the rule if in doubt, map it as land since we don't have the luxury of being able to map average high water marks or highest spring tide mark

Re: [OSM-talk] Joke or what in Åland, Finland?

2008-07-13 Thread Mike Collinson
Certainly looks like it, a native english speaker I would guess from the names of the made up places. I recall there was a small legitimate-looking set of real highways, these appear to have been done by a user 'dmx'. Using Potlatch's History tool, there is then a set of edits and editions

Re: [OSM-talk] OSMXAPI

2008-07-25 Thread Mike Collinson
Would it additionally be feasible to add some sort of limit parameter (a la the MySQL LIMIT parameter) to OSMXAPI calls? That would be useful for writing programs where you don't know exactly what the user might ask for. As a real example, I'd like to limit the return from a web-based POI

[OSM-talk] Any cyclists interested in a Grand European Sweden-to-Marathon Mapping Relay?

2008-08-27 Thread Mike Collinson
This is just for fun but might also raise some useful publicity as quirky stunt. Would any cyclist be interested in joining me in a mapping relay?My legs are getting too tired trying to map national and regional cycle ways by myself. The idea is that we each ride and map a segment and then

Re: [OSM-talk] Recommended GPS for logs for OSM *and* for vehicle - is there such a beast?

2008-08-27 Thread Mike Collinson
At 01:46 PM 27/08/2008, Chris G wrote: On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 01:26:01PM +0200, Christoph Eckert wrote: Hi, I rand my N810 in parallel with my Garmin Geko 201 and they both produced comparable results. I'm quite happy with the built-in GPS. works for me as well, as long the device is

Re: [OSM-talk] error in osm

2008-08-28 Thread Mike Collinson
At 12:18 PM 28/08/2008, Tom Hughes wrote: robin paulson wrote: i've been getting an error in osm all day, whenever i hit reload, or try to do something in the messages section: --- Application error Change this error message for exceptions thrown outside of an

[OSM-talk] 50 Days to SOTM 2009

2009-05-20 Thread Mike Collinson
If you are coming, you can twitter, email or shout about SOTM, using this new neat little link: http://bit.ly/2TDMvPhttp://bit.ly/2TDMvP ... or click it to register your place now. Mike State Of The Map 2009 The 3rd International OpenStreetMap Conference Amsterdam, July 10th-12th 209

[OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - place=sea, ocean, archipelago

2009-05-21 Thread Mike Collinson
Here are three proposals for identifying high level marine features that I already use. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Ocean http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Sea http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Archipelago Comments on each

[OSM-talk] [Announcement] talk-vi Vietnam mailing list

2009-06-24 Thread Mike Collinson
There is now a talk-vi Vietnam-specific mapping parties, topics and discussion mailing list available. Thank you to Ivan Garcia for initiating and hosting this forum. The Philippines now has a great map of Manila and recently had a very successful mapping party on nearby Tagaytay so it is

[OSM-talk] [Announcement] talk-tn Tunisia mailing list

2009-06-24 Thread Mike Collinson
There is now a talk-tn Tunisia-specific topics and discussion mailing list available. Thank you to Chedli Ghedira for initiating and hosting this forum. Mike For details on how to subscribe to this and other country, language, and topic-specific OSM mailing lists, see

[OSM-talk] [Announcement] accessibility mailing list

2009-07-01 Thread Mike Collinson
Following the success of similar German-language mailing lists, there is now an accessibility mailing list for topics on all kinds of disabilities and things like navigation on mobile devices and tactile maps. For details on how to subscribe to this and other country, language, and

[OSM-talk] Second Grand State Of the Map Poetry Competition!!

2009-07-01 Thread Mike Collinson
A really important poetry event that I almost forgot about. SOTM 2009 is almost with us and over 200 people coming. 201 if you have forgotten to register. Last year we had some great Limerick poems for the Limerick State Of the Map Conference. This year, the format is the Haiku.

[OSM-talk] [Announcement] talk-lv Latvia mailing list

2009-07-07 Thread Mike Collinson
There is now a talk-lv Latvia-specific topics and discussion mailing list available. Thank you to Gints Polis for initiating and hosting this forum! Mike For details on how to subscribe to this and other country, language, and topic-specific OSM mailing lists, see

Re: [OSM-talk] SteveC; C = Cool

2009-07-08 Thread Mike Collinson
At 00:06 08/07/2009, Russ Nelson wrote: On Jul 7, 2009, at 5:53 PM, SteveC wrote: On 7 Jul 2009, at 23:26, Stefan de Konink ste...@konink.de wrote: After the years of iterations don't you think it sucks that your simple easy REST-based model is now made so difficult in 0.6? Mozart had

Re: [OSM-talk] Vanishing buildings

2009-07-15 Thread Mike Collinson
Thanks for looking at this ... I put in most of those buildings. There also deletions like the carparks in Centralplan which have been ground-truthed so I don't think this is a properly planned edit. The easiest way should be to use Potlatch U (show deleted ways) and H (show history and has a

[OSM-talk] [Announcement] talk-alps - European Alps mailing list

2009-08-02 Thread Mike Collinson
There is now a talk-alps mailing list. This is for mapping parties, topics and general discussion for anyone mapping in the European Alps. This is experiment for a multi-language list for discussion in Italian, French, German, Slovenian, Romanche and, oh, may be English too. If it does not

Re: [OSM-talk] sidewalks

2009-08-08 Thread Mike Collinson
At 10:20 PM 7/08/2009, OJ W wrote: sidewalks in villages - what to do? http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=52.172898lon=-0.524788zoom=18 are they footpaths or are they road attributes? http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Proposed_features/Footway A corollary but very important issue is

Re: [OSM-talk] [Osmf-talk] OPENSTREETMAP FOUNDATION - NOTICE OF ANNUAL GENERAL MEETING

2009-08-16 Thread Mike Collinson
At 02:20 AM 16/08/2009, Richard Weait wrote: On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 5:43 AM, Frederik Rammfrede...@remote.org wrote: ... Do you and Steve have any comment on Richard Weait's suggestion that from every commercial organisation, at most one person should be a member of the OSMF board

Re: [OSM-talk] Awards

2009-08-21 Thread Mike Collinson
At 16:33 21/08/2009, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: 2009/8/21 Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org: Â Â I just stumpled across this list of awards that Wikipedia seem to have for their contributors: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Service_awards One part of me finds them funny, and

Re: [OSM-talk] How to tag giant acorn?

2009-08-21 Thread Mike Collinson
Bit late but punch Big Banana into the slippy map name finder. I saw Big Banana on a map in the early '80s and just had to drive there to see what was. Well, it was just that. Awe inspiring as bananas go but no explanatory sign, nothing else. Now it is a developed tourist facility. Mike

Re: [OSM-talk] how to map this? cycleway or footpath?

2009-09-10 Thread Mike Collinson
highway=cycleway foot=yes cycleway=separated (not a Map Features value) I acknowledge a personal bias towards mapping for cyclists, others will disagree. My rationale is: As a cyclist, I am looking for cycleways on the map. As a pedestrian, I'd like to know if I can got for a nice quiet meander

[OSM-legal-talk] New license status

2009-09-25 Thread Mike Collinson
Here is a quick report from the License Working Group as we have been rather quiet. Since the proposal we made to the OSMF board in August and at SOTM 2009, we have been working on a number of small issues raised but now getting on track to make our final formal license change proposal to OSMF

[OSM-talk] [Announcement] talk-ve Venezuela mailing list

2009-11-27 Thread Mike Collinson
There is now a talk-ve Venezuela-specific topics and discussion mailing list available. Thank you to Rafael for initiating and hosting this forum. For details on how to subscribe to this and other country, language, and topic-specific OSM mailing lists, see

Re: [OSM-talk] [Tagging] Restaurants/Fast Food

2008-09-09 Thread Mike Collinson
Ed, I also map eating places in reasonable detail as it will be very useful when OSM search engines expand to local POI searches, as I am sure they will. We are in a distinct minority at the moment so I suggest personal experimentation and then make specialist proposal(s) if no one else does.

Re: [OSM-talk] [Tagging] Restaurants/Fast Food

2008-09-09 Thread Mike Collinson
At 03:01 PM 9/09/2008, David Earl wrote: On 09/09/2008 13:53, Mike Collinson wrote: I also map eating places in reasonable detail as it will be very useful when OSM search engines expand to local POI searches, as I am sure they will. You mean like restaurants near Cambridge, UK or cafes near

[OSM-talk] [Announcement] talk-lt - Lithuania

2008-09-24 Thread Mike Collinson
There is now a talk-lt - Lithuania specific topics and discussion (in Lithuanian) - mailing list available. Thank you to Tomas Straupis for initiating and hosting this forum. For details on how to subscribe to this and other country, language, and topic-specific OSM mailing lists, see

[OSM-talk] [Announcement] talk-pt - Portugal

2008-09-25 Thread Mike Collinson
There is now a talk-pt - Portugal specific topics and discussion (in Portuguese) - mailing list available. Thank you to Filipe Roque for initiating and hosting this forum. For details on how to subscribe to this and other country, language, and topic-specific OSM mailing lists, see

[OSM-talk] [Announcement] talk-il - Israel

2008-10-05 Thread Mike Collinson
There is now a talk-il - Isreal-specific topics and discussion (Hebrew preferred) - mailing list available. Thank you to Tal for initiating and hosting this forum. For details on how to subscribe to this and other country, language, and topic-specific OSM mailing lists, see

Re: [OSM-talk] ref in roundabouts

2008-10-08 Thread Mike Collinson
I also don't put a highway ref or name on a roundabout on the grounds that it is a junction of more than one road and, though perhaps mapping for the renderer so that they don't show up as labels. If the roundabout itself has a name, I put it on the way. Mike At 02:15 PM 7/10/2008, Simon

Re: [OSM-talk] Zoom level 12 on Potlatch

2008-10-08 Thread Mike Collinson
At 06:18 PM 7/10/2008, Richard Fairhurst wrote: I'm thinking of disabling zoom level 12 in Potlatch, to reduce load on the server. It's probably too far zoomed out to be able to do any useful editing anyway. Low-res (Landsat) Yahoo kicks in at level 13 so you'd still be able to access this.

Re: [OSM-talk] Waypoints with directions

2008-10-17 Thread Mike Collinson
At 03:07 PM 17/10/2008, Xav wrote: Hi Some waypoints needs to be described with direction. Some examples : - viewpoint - bus stop - surveillance - traffic enforcement Is it possible to make it consistent ? Add a tag degrees=xxx where xxx is approximate bearing in degrees true north?

Re: [OSM-talk] Place names with coordinates in Wikipedia + OSM

2008-10-29 Thread Mike Collinson
Hi Lars, I've been working with the GNS data for Sweden so some notes from that limited regard. What you are suggesting sounds very worthwhile for both projects and I would be glad to join in, follow up on talk-se? - If I am not mixing sources up, Geonames.org is tainted with digitisations

[OSM-talk] [Announcement] talk-bf - Burkina Faso

2008-10-31 Thread Mike Collinson
There is now a talk-bf - Burkina Faso-specific topics and discussion mailing list available. Thank you to Helge Fahrnberger for initiating and hosting this forum. The main goal in this African state is to produce a paper city map of the capital city Ouagadougou by the end of 2009. For

[OSM-legal-talk] [Announcement] new mailing list: legal-general

2008-10-31 Thread Mike Collinson
After some requests and OSMF board discussion, I've created a new mailing list: legal-general We'd ask that higher level discussions such as pd etc move to that from the existing legal-talk and that we keep legal-talk to specific practical issues regarding OSM's actual license and, in what is

[OSM-talk] [Announcement] USA - Bay Area local talk list

2008-11-25 Thread Mike Collinson
I've set up a Bay Area list. Thanks to Sarah Manley for initiating this. If you do live in this area or you have an interest in mapping there, do consider joining up. Talk-us-bayarea You can subscribe to this and other lists at: http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo Mike

[OSM-talk] [Announcement] talk-at - Austria

2008-11-25 Thread Mike Collinson
There is now a talk-at - Austria specific topics and discussion - mailing list available. Thank you to Wolfgang Silbermayr for initiating and hosting this forum. For details on how to subscribe to this and other country, language, and topic-specific OSM mailing lists, see

[OSM-talk] [Announcement] talk-et Ethiopia

2009-01-09 Thread Mike Collinson
There is now a talk-et - Ethiopia-specific topics and discussion mailing list available. Thank you to Alexander Menk for initiating and hosting this forum. For details on how to subscribe to this and other country, language, and topic-specific OSM mailing lists, see

[OSM-talk] [Announcement] talk-ee Estonia

2009-01-27 Thread Mike Collinson
There is now a talk-ee - Estonia-specific topics and discussion mailing list available. Thank you to Jaak Laineste for initiating and hosting this forum. For details on how to subscribe to this and other country, language, and topic-specific OSM mailing lists, see

[OSM-talk] [Announcement] talk-lb Lebanon

2009-02-19 Thread Mike Collinson
There is now a talk-lb Lebanon-specific topics and discussion mailing list available in Arabic, English and French. Thank you to Michel for initiating and hosting this forum. For details on how to subscribe to this and other country, language, and topic-specific OSM mailing lists, see

[OSM-talk] [Announcement] talk-my Malaysia

2009-02-19 Thread Mike Collinson
There is now a talk-my Malaysia-specific topics and discussion mailing list available.. Thank you to contributor Nyem for initiating and hosting this forum. For details on how to subscribe to this and other country, language, and topic-specific OSM mailing lists, see

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] ODbL License + Outline Procedure

2009-02-27 Thread Mike Collinson
The suggestions re the Use Case page all sound good. Looking at the wiki history page, I assume but cannot absolutely guarentee that review has been made of the version extant 19th Jan (there were then no edits for a month). I've grabbed a copy of that page and will insert the review comments

Re: [OSM-talk] licence plan - Question about supplying own data

2009-03-04 Thread Mike Collinson
Jason, Good questions and I've just been through the ODbL 0.9 version to double check. Here's is my IANAL but clear interpretation: - If your work is a derived work, and I believe your examples are not, AND you distribute it then you do have to offer it under the same license or compatible

[OSM-talk] Checking OSM Foundation membership (was License to kill)

2009-03-06 Thread Mike Collinson
, there is demand for a member's mailing list and I expect to be able to implement that as a matter of urgency. Mike Collinson OSMF membership secretary members...@osmfoundation.org http://foundation.openstreetmap.org At 11:28 AM 6/03/2009, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: On Friday 06 March 2009 15:54

Re: [OSM-talk] membership email id is bouncing

2009-03-07 Thread Mike Collinson
Kenneth, Did I make a boo-boo? members...@osmfoundation.org is the right address. Apologies if so. Mike At 01:32 AM 7/03/2009, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: hi, was trying to reply to Mike Collinson's mail, but the id membership@ is bouncing: ? members...@openstreetmap.org ? ? SMTP error from

[OSM-talk] [Announcement] talk-ir Iran mailing list

2009-03-09 Thread Mike Collinson
There is now a talk-ir - Iran-specific topics and discussion mailing list available. Thank you to Hamid Jafarian for initiating and hosting this forum. For details on how to subscribe to this and other country, language, and topic-specific OSM mailing lists, see

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] ODbL: Click-Through required?

2009-03-10 Thread Mike Collinson
I have also bumped the general question over to the OpenData Commons discussion list and will report back. Mike OSMF License Working Group At 11:41 AM 7/03/2009, Ulf Möller wrote: Frederik Ramm schrieb: ... I think that the assumption is that the contract is implicit - you do stuff with the

[OSM-talk] Wiki page for big data contributors needs updating

2009-03-10 Thread Mike Collinson
in the license column would also help. Alternatively, do feel free to email me directly. Thanks! Mike Collinson OSMF License Working Group ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

[OSM-talk] California bill to limit detail on online mapping tools

2009-03-13 Thread Mike Collinson
From today's Good Morning Silicon Valley newsletter: Q U O T E D I'm not against the technology; it's fantastic. But we're in an evolving world and we have to change our course as it changes. I'm all for online mapping, but knowing where the air ducts are in an air shaft is not necessary

Re: [OSM-talk] immutable=yes Fwd: DEC Lands

2009-03-13 Thread Mike Collinson
At 06:36 PM 12/03/2009, Russ Nelson wrote: On Mar 12, 2009, at 7:43 AM, Ted Mielczarek wrote: . However, I reject the idea that there is any data that belongs in OSM that makes no sense to edit. If you can't edit it, then by definition it shouldn't be in a wiki-style map. No one has been

[OSM-talk] Tim Berners-Lee Linked Data talk

2009-03-13 Thread Mike Collinson
I'm not sure if this has on-line video has been mentioned yet on the list: Tim Berners-Lee: The next Web of open, linked data http://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/tim_berners_lee_on_the_next_web.html A relaxing antithesis to the current grand licensing debate but still very relevant as this is

Re: [OSM-talk] Wiki page for big data contributors needs updating

2009-03-14 Thread Mike Collinson
Simone, The ODbL is still a BY-SA license but written with databases rather than creative works in mind (ODC-BY-SA). So my opinion is that Frederik's advice is the right one, it depends on how narrow or wide-ranging the original authority was. At the moment, we are simply trying to

[OSM-talk] Reminder: License and license process phone-in today

2009-03-14 Thread Mike Collinson
This is an informal discussion about the ODbL license and adoption process where anyone can dial in on a phone. It's at 3pm UK time (15:00 GMT/UTC) on Saturday and will be held in English. Call one of the numbers at http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Open_Data_Licence/20090314_Phone_In and

Re: [OSM-talk] Reminder: License and license process phone-in today

2009-03-14 Thread Mike Collinson
No, this is not a formal event. I hope people will relax and talk about what concerns them. The wiki pages are probably the best place if you want to record something specific. Mike At 01:15 PM 14/03/2009, Ben Laenen wrote: Will it be recorded? On Saturday 14 March 2009, Mike Collinson

Re: [OSM-talk] Wiki page for big data contributors needs updating

2009-03-14 Thread Mike Collinson
At 12:27 PM 14/03/2009, Ulf Lamping wrote: Mike Collinson schrieb: Simone, The ODbL is still a BY-SA license but written with databases rather than creative works in mind (ODC-BY-SA). So my opinion is that Frederik's advice is the right one, it depends on how narrow or wide-ranging the original

Re: [OSM-talk] Multilingual map

2009-03-14 Thread Mike Collinson
At 05:22 PM 14/03/2009, Ben Laenen wrote: On Saturday 14 March 2009, Pierre-André Jacquod wrote: Hi, great stuff... With my first go a couple of weeks back for 8 languages I did do fallback to at least 'name' using views as suggested on the wiki, setting this up for 40 languages however

[OSM-talk] [Announcement] talk-cr Costa Rica mailing list

2009-03-19 Thread Mike Collinson
There is now a talk-cr - Costa Rica-specific topics and discussion mailing list available. Thank you to Ben Konrath for initiating and hosting this forum. Ben is currently living in Costa Rica. For details on how to subscribe to this and other country, language, and topic-specific OSM

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] ODbL comments from Creative Commons

2009-03-25 Thread Mike Collinson
Here is a response from Rufus Pollock of Open Data Commons on the [odc-discuss] list - Mike Dear All, I was forwarded an email which when to osm-legal-talk from John Wilbanks (see below) which I wanted to respond to. BTW: I'm not on osm-legal-talk so if

[OSM-talk] [Announcement] talk-ps Palestine mailing list

2009-03-31 Thread Mike Collinson
There is now a talk-cr - Costa Rica-specific topics and discussion mailing list available. Thank you to Mikel Maron for initiating and hosting this forum. For details on how to subscribe to this and other country, language, and topic-specific OSM mailing lists, see

Re: [OSM-talk] [talk-ph] request for assistance to import Philippine data from PAFID

2009-04-01 Thread Mike Collinson
This sounds like a wonderful resource both for what it gives OSM and for OSM to give back. Thanks Maning! Can you confirm the exact nature of the data? There is one ESRI Shapefile per original map sheet per data type (rivers, roads, ...)? And the Cartalinks vectors (sorry I am not familiar

Re: [OSM-talk] [Announcement] talk-ps Palestine mailing list

2009-04-01 Thread Mike Collinson
Hmm, did I really do that? That is what comes of cut and pasting from the last such announcement with a twitchy send finger. Or may be I am just the only one on top of the Costa Rican Menace. You will never know. Joking aside, Costa Rica=Palestine all the way through and good luck to all

[OSM-legal-talk] ODbL 1.0 Release Candidate now available

2009-04-30 Thread Mike Collinson
The new text is available at http://www.opendatacommons.org/licenses/odbl/ and includes diff versions so that you can see clearly what changes are made. A summary of changes and the Open Data Commons comment process lasting up until May 6th is described here:

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-talk-ie] open street map - what's in it for you?

2009-05-03 Thread Mike Collinson
At 11:10 PM 2/05/2009, Johnny Rose Carlsen wrote: Nic Roets nro...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 4:50 PM, Dermot McNally derm...@gmail.com wrote: drove into a new housing estate ... yes but, what's in it for you? Why does a painter paint? Why play football? Why

Re: [OSM-talk] [Announce] OSMF license change vote has started

2009-12-06 Thread Mike Collinson
At 10:26 PM 5/12/2009, Ian Dees wrote: On Dec 5, 2009, at 2:48 PM, Mike Collinson m...@ayeltd.biz wrote: If you are an OSMF member then you should have received an email about this vote, which contains a URL with which you can access this site. If you have not received an email, first please

Re: [OSM-talk] [Announce] OSMF license change vote has started

2009-12-06 Thread Mike Collinson
perspective and in the heart of technical intellectual property land. Hope that helps, Mike Collinson OSMF License Working Group ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] OSMF license change vote has started

2009-12-07 Thread Mike Collinson
At 12:28 AM 7/12/2009, Simon Ward wrote: I’ve received the mail, answered the poll, and also the preference poll. In the preference poll, I understand the term “viral license” but ask that people refrain from using that term: It has the implication that it is a bad thing - it may be in some

Re: [OSM-talk] Opinion poll about the new licence Odbl 1.0

2009-12-07 Thread Mike Collinson
At 09:24 PM 6/12/2009, morb@beagle.com.au wrote: Quoting Anthony o...@inbox.org: Part of me suspects that this whole notion of removing contributions from people who don't agree is going to get dropped. At least for the contributors who don't respond one way or the other. It's just going

[OSM-talk] New OSM GeoData License Status

2010-02-09 Thread Mike Collinson
Here is an update from the License Working Group. We feel we've reached a reasonable community consensus to move forward carefully based on results from the OSMF member vote and from the general community poll (below). At the moment, we are trying to address some concerns raised by OSM and

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Number of active contributors

2010-02-16 Thread Mike Collinson
At 11:41 PM 15/02/2010, Hal Bertram wrote: On 15/02/10 09:25, Jukka Rahkonen wrote An active contributor is defined as: a contributor (whether using a single or multiple accounts) who has edited the Project in any 3 calendar months from the last 6 months (i.e. there is a demonstrated

[OSM-legal-talk] Contributor Terms latest

2010-02-23 Thread Mike Collinson
http://docs.google.com/View?id=dd9g3qjp_48c4sgs3d4http://docs.google.com/View?id=dd9g3qjp_48c4sgs3d4 shows where we are at. We've one open question about natural person below that we would appreciate input on. Apart from that, this is the version we would like to finalise on and which has had

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Contributor Terms latest

2010-02-23 Thread Mike Collinson
Thanks Oliver. We have a separate project to look at general terms of use of OSM and OSMF websites where this certainly is an issue. These Contributor Terms are strictly for the addition of geodata. We have not been advised it has been an issue but it will do no harm to check explicitly if

[OSM-talk] SOTM 2010 Conference Early-Bird registration ends Wednesday

2010-03-25 Thread Mike Collinson
at http://stateofthemap.org/register-now/ and I look forward to seeing you there, Mike Collinson http://stateofthemap.org/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

[OSM-legal-talk] New OSM contributor licensing under ODbL and CC-BY-SA started today

2010-05-12 Thread Mike Collinson
I am pleased to announce that we went live today with new contributor terms, for NEW contributors and we already have contributors signed up. OpenStreetMap has NOT yet moved to the new license. A copy of the terms can be viewed here,

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [Osmf-talk] New OSM contributor licensing under ODbL and CC-BY-SA started today

2010-05-12 Thread Mike Collinson
At 04:23 PM 12/05/2010, Jochen Topf wrote: This contains: You hereby grant to OSMF a worldwide, royalty-free, non-exclusive, perpetual, irrevocable license to do any act that is restricted by copyright over anything within the Contents Why is such as blanket license necessary? This puts the OSMF

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] New OSM contributor licensing under ODbL and CC-BY-SA started today

2010-05-12 Thread Mike Collinson
At 04:28 PM 12/05/2010, Tom Hughes wrote: On 12/05/10 16:23, Jochen Topf wrote: This puts the OSMF in a unique position to undermine the whole project. If somebody subverts the OSMF, he can do whatever he wants with the data. I don't think its a good idea to expose the OSMF to even the

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