Hi
The first import working group meeting will be held next week
• Thursday September 10th
• 6pm UK time, 10 AM Pacific Time
Agenda
• Participant introductions
• Sort out the impo...@osmfoundation vs. impo...@openstreetmap.org
lists, and their need
•
On 3 Sep 2009, at 07:04, Richard Fairhurst wrote:
Peter Miller wrote:
Ok, so I have just had an RSS alert that Liam123 is back editing
again today after a delay of 3 weeks.
Probably because kids are back at school now.
Look at his first changeset ever - it's next to his school. Of
On 28 Sep 2009, at 06:33, Peter Miller wrote:
To avoid spam subscriber's the first posts will be moderated so
don't expect them to appear immediately. Subsequent posts will not
be moderated.
How... recursive! :-)
Yours c.
Steve
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On 30 Sep 2009, at 08:15, Chris Hill wrote:
Dave F. wrote:
Dave Stubbs wrote:
I wouldn't read too much into it, especially as they said,
we’ve almost certainly got at least some of it wrong but
hopefully we
got part of it right and can correct the rest as we go
Dave
You see, this
On 30 Sep 2009, at 16:14, Russ Nelson wrote:
SteveC writes:
Yeah, OK Dave, we've got the message, you don't free-format tags.
Unfortunately you're going to have to get used to it, because it
is the basis of the OPENstreetmap and, in my opinion, one of the
reasons it is as successful
Dave - super awesome.
As I said on IRC the other week, but I'll repeat here for all - I
think dumping the addressing for all 3,000 counties and then letting
people import them one by one will be the best way to do it.
Another random thought - should the addressing ways be one long way
with
On 13 Oct 2009, at 09:26, Simone Cortesi wrote:
On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 18:20, SteveC st...@asklater.com wrote:
As I said on IRC the other week, but I'll repeat here for all - I
think dumping the addressing for all 3,000 counties and then letting
people import them one by one
On 13 Oct 2009, at 10:37, Hillsman, Edward wrote:
On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 18:20, SteveC st...@asklater.com wrote:
Dave - super awesome.
As I said on IRC the other week, but I'll repeat here for all - I
think dumping the addressing for all 3,000 counties and then letting
people import
Hi
Love OpenStreetMap? Love blogging?
If anyone is interested in making opengeodata.org even more awesome
please drop me a line for a account to blog with.
Yours c.
Steve
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Neither list has any real traffic, and what they do tend to just be
reposts of talk-us.
Splitting the community at this stage is retarded, we should wait for
talk-us to grow to a sizable level and then begin spinning off as
required, like we did with the other lists.
Yours c.
Steve
Is anyone interested in pushing through this set of ideas for modeling
multiple traffic lights?
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Proposed_features/Set_of_Traffic_Signals
The last discussion seems to be about a year ago.
Yours c.
Steve
On Nov 5, 2009, at 5:28 PM, Richard Fairhurst wrote:
I'd seen a vague allusion to this but not actually heard the full
response. Really interesting - Michael Jones of Google explaining why
they don't use OSM data.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQXDAFJTH6w#t=1m47s
To summarise: the
On Nov 5, 2009, at 7:06 PM, Ian Dees wrote:
Perhaps we could e-mail him directly? Or SteveC could fill us in...
Just as a point of order, I only saw this thread today... sometimes I just kill
everything in my OSM lists mailbox because I get far too much. Feel free to cc
me on list posts
You're conflating two entirely different points and as far as I can see,
trolling.
On Nov 13, 2009, at 12:39 PM, Russ Nelson wrote:
On 12/11/2009 21:31, SteveC wrote:
That's half true. Nobody likes the uncertainty around CC, but
really they want us to be PD because they don't want to give
Can I have SF county, CA please and Arapahoe County, CO...?
Yours c.
Steve
On Nov 13, 2009, at 4:57 PM, Dave Hansen wrote:
So, just like the original TIGER import, I'm now grossly stealing
someone else's code:
Dave
I've looked at the two you sent me and they're both basically fine but for two
things.
In Denver the houses are all set back a lot further, so some way to say 'on
north-south roads, set back X feet' might help a lot. Or, in JOSM just search
for all the ways that make up the addressing on
On Nov 13, 2009, at 11:11 PM, SteveC wrote:
Dave
I've looked at the two you sent me and they're both basically fine but for
two things.
In Denver the houses are all set back a lot further, so some way to say 'on
north-south roads, set back X feet' might help a lot. Or, in JOSM just
On Nov 14, 2009, at 5:49 AM, andrzej zaborowski wrote:
Hi,
2009/11/14 SteveC st...@asklater.com:
In Denver the houses are all set back a lot further, so some way to say 'on
north-south roads, set back X feet' might help a lot. Or, in JOSM just
search for all the ways that make up
On Nov 14, 2009, at 11:16 AM, Dave Hansen wrote:
What really needs to be done for TIGER addresses import is match the
streets from TIGER to those in OSM (which should be easy since they
all still have the TIGER id's) and generate the address geometry based
on these. Otherwise someone will
On 16 Sep 2008, at 12:09, Frederik Ramm wrote:
Hi,
Steve Chilton wrote:
Webmapper blogged yesterday about the recent OpenStreetMap Users
Day in
Holland (http://www.webmapper.net/), where Henk (and others)
presented/discussed the possible move to ODL licensing.
Could someone summarise
On 16 Sep 2008, at 17:36, spaetz wrote:
On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 03:37:01PM +0100, SteveC wrote:
Put in other words: The license debate looks pretty much stalled if
you
ask me.
Absolutely not, I spent half a day working on it last week and it
will
get another half day this week. I
Just run gpsbabel? No drivers required...
On 29 Sep 2008, at 13:32, Richard Fairhurst wrote:
Karl Newman wrote:
If it's a 60Cx or 60CSx, then you can configure it to log tracks to
the MicroSD card. Once that's set up, you can put the device into
USB mass storage mode and it will show up as
On 1 Oct 2008, at 11:01, Ulf Mehlig wrote:
Hello Frederik, thanks for your answer. The coordinate display at
www.informationfreeway.org is what I was looking for. Wouldn't it be
possible to integrate this function into the main OpenStreetMap
site? I
think this would definitely improve the
I think most of your questions have been answered by other people
already.
I could tell you about our plans for ice cream gloves but I think this
does it better:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkuOuxRD1Bc
Best
Steve
On 3 Oct 2008, at 12:03, Adrian wrote:
Hopefully someone here
On 7 Oct 2008, at 09:18, Richard Fairhurst wrote:
I'm thinking of disabling zoom level 12 in Potlatch, to reduce load on
the server. It's probably too far zoomed out to be able to do any
useful editing anyway.
Low-res (Landsat) Yahoo kicks in at level 13 so you'd still be able to
access
On 10 Oct 2008, at 07:06, Jonathan Bennett wrote:
elvin ibbotson wrote:
Steve,
It looks like fakeSteveC or someone is pretending to be you and
posting
elitist, patronising, condescending rubbish in an apparent attempt to
I'll take elitism over populism or relativism. See:
On 10 Oct 2008, at 23:37, Matthias Julius wrote:
SteveC [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I'm all for lat/lng to be a user-enabled display option, but it's
delusional to think that most people on the planet care and I
personally want most people on the planet using our maps.
And I don't think
Guys OSM isn't going PD... can't you go start
ReallyFreeAndOpenStreetMap.org or something?
Best
Steve
On 21 Oct 2008, at 07:33, Sunburned Surveyor wrote:
Does anyone have the e-mail address for Tom Hughes so I could request
the creation of a public domain mailing list for OSM? Is there a
Hi
CloudMade feels that helping the US community grow would be a good
thing and to that end we've been hiring, for want of a better term,
mapping ambassadors. These full-time employees will be doing things
like running mapping parties, speaking at events, doing webinars and
anything else
I didn't see anyone post this so
http://povesham.wordpress.com/2008/10/18/openstreetmap-user-generated-street-maps-ieee-pervasive-computing-paper/
with the usual choice quotes :-O
Best
Steve
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On 23 Oct 2008, at 07:17, 80n wrote:
On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 8:06 AM, Jochen Topf [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 09:24:37PM -0700, SteveC wrote:
I've received back general comments from Wilson Sonsini
(http://www.wsgr.com/WSGR/Index.aspx
) on the latest draft
Dave the positional accuracy of the 'new' TIGER stuff I hear is
substantially better across the board. Some suggestions: Build a list
of counties which have not had substantial edits to see if they can be
dropped for the new stuff? Import all the TIGER 2007 addressing stuff
in the Frederik
All
CloudMade have some people experienced in Search Engine Optimisation
and we'd like to offer their time to look at making OSM push higher up
search results. Basically we think it would be nice that if you search
for 'free maps' and things like that then OSM comes up to the top.
What do
than 90 seconds thought, please let me review
the history of BSD vs. GPL
On 2 Nov 2008, at 22:52, Joseph Gentle wrote:
I'll post it to the main list later this afternoon.
I just wanted to get feedback from you guys first.
-J
On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 5:42 PM, SteveC [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote
You should rotate the options randomly and also try some of the
consequences in the question also
a) Would you like OSM to always be inferior to TeleAtlas and Navteq
and probably die (PD license)
b) Would you like OSM to be the best map on the planet (viral license))
c) This requires more
On 2 Nov 2008, at 23:35, Joseph Gentle wrote:
Steve:
I disagree with your opinion. So do _many_ others.
and so _many_ others disagree with you
I think OSM would be vastly improved by being more open and free. I
think our maps would be improved with more mapping and less lawyering.
Under
On 3 Nov 2008, at 00:12, Iván Sánchez Ortega wrote:
El Lunes, 3 de Noviembre de 2008, Joseph Gentle escribió:
The public domain will benefit OSM.
Could we stop making PD-vs-SA flamewars that will lead nowhere,
please?
On 3 Nov 2008, at 02:09, Joseph Gentle wrote:
2008/11/3 Iván Sánchez Ortega [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Could we stop making PD-vs-SA flamewars that will lead nowhere,
please?
Thanks,
I'm sorry for reigniting the flamewar. My intention was merely to get
some data. However, I'd rather have some
Does anyone have a good idea of a photo of people at a mapping party
looking like they're having fun, maybe holding a GPS and talking...
that kind of thing. It would be great to use this on mapping party
wiki pages but I've only found drinking-related photos... :)
Best
Steve
Um it sounds like we need a system to report abuse rather than just
making it public?
On 23 Nov 2008, at 13:21, Frederik Ramm wrote:
Hi,
I'd like to ask for a quick show of hands on the idea of making
the
whole built-in OSM messaging system public (not retroactively of
course,
Some notes on using Karlsruhe schema...
nodes on a way but not a relation schema needs to have
addr:street=foo on the addressing way ?
addr:housename needs to be added, or addr:housenumber needs to be
explicit that it can be a name, or made a more generic term to
encompass both
wiki pages
On 8 Dec 2008, at 13:41, Frederik Ramm wrote:
Hi,
SteveC wrote:
nodes on a way but not a relation schema needs to have
addr:street=foo on the addressing way ?
The original idea was to (by default) assume that the street name is
the name tag of the nearest highway (i.e. no addr
On 8 Dec 2008, at 23:51, Jochen Topf wrote:
On Mon, Dec 08, 2008 at 03:37:00PM -0800, SteveC wrote:
On 8 Dec 2008, at 13:41, Frederik Ramm wrote:
Hi,
SteveC wrote:
nodes on a way but not a relation schema needs to have
addr:street=foo on the addressing way ?
The original idea
Seriously, super, awesome cool.
On 23 Dec 2008, at 09:37, Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) wrote:
It is with great pleasure, and not just a little excitement, that I
can
announce that the mappers in Birmingham having set the task of
completing
the whole of the city by Christmas have
/wiki/Trademark
I have exchanged a number of emails with the foundation over the past
month on this matter about some changes that have been made since the
board meeting however I fail to see how what has been done protects
the project. I would invite SteveC or Andy to explain on this list
what
Dear all
We had a review call today on the technical side of OSM and one of the
things that came up was the transition to API 0.6
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OSM_Protocol_Version_0.6
API 0.6 is the latest and greatest in OSM APIs and brings scrummy
goodness like changesets.
Thanks :-)
On 23 Jan 2009, at 01:35, LeedsTracker wrote:
2009/1/23 SteveC st...@asklater.com:
Anyone feel like updating the JOSM screenshots to the 21st
century :-)
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/JOSM
Done!
cheers,
LT
Best
Steve
I just wanted to point out some fun donations
http://donate.openstreetmap.org/
as you can follow along here:
http://donate.openstreetmap.org/comments/
CloudMade is donating £2k.
Richard Weait dropped $1,000 !
My personal favourite:
Johnny Carlsen donated £5 because I
No... because anybody could post any content there and it's not always
very relevant either.
Best
Steve
On 15 Feb 2009, at 11:15, OJ W wrote:
The OSM front page has a news blog link - should that go to
http://blogs.openstreetmap.org/ rather than
http://www.opengeodata.org/ ? (gives
On 16 Feb 2009, at 11:31, Peter Miller wrote:
On 15 Feb 2009, at 14:29, 80n wrote:
So, what makes opengeodata.org the official OpenStreetMap blog
anyway? It's linked prominently on the OSM front page. Who
contributes to it? I have an account there and most posts appear
to be
On 17 Feb 2009, at 00:18, Frederik Ramm wrote:
Hi,
SteveC wrote:
As you both know several years of work went in to that blog, and
not just by me. Maybe you should both think twice before
dismissing it all.
It would help if, instead of
* singling out participants (you both
the development and
progress of OSM in the early months/years. Steve, would you be ok with those
entries being copied?
Cheers
Andy
-Original Message-
From: talk-boun...@openstreetmap.org [mailto:talk-
boun...@openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of 80n
Sent: 17 February 2009 11:02 AM
To: SteveC
Cc
Something that's come up a few times in chatting to people is the
front page design of the website and how it's been pretty static for a
long time. That's pretty cool as nobody has felt the need to hack it
away and it's sprouted some cool additions with time. But there are
some things that
Where to begin?
Why don't we start with the beautiful community we've built and the
stunning map can be the backdrop. On this canvas lets spread the
pieces of the puzzle and see if we can put a few things together.
We have incredible coders. We have mappers that stay up all night
adding
On 4 Mar 2009, at 11:27, Frederik Ramm wrote:
Steve reluctant to publish publicly as it would invite another
round of changes.
Blimey, if you talk to people, they might have ideas and suggestions
or even want to CHANGE something. Better keep things to yourself and
complain later.
On 4 Mar 2009, at 04:01, Peter Miller wrote:
My main criticism in relation to license Steve is not that you are
'evil' but that you have been absent. Your last post in relation to
the license on legal-talk was over three months go (25th Nov).
Given that you are the only person who has
with volunteers...
there are pros and cons.
Then just keep pointing to the web page that outlines the structures,
processes and notes/minutes/FAQs etc.
Best of luck to you, Jordan and everyone else.
Regards,
Tom
On Tue, 3 Mar 2009 20:28:32 -0800, SteveC st...@asklater.com wrote:
Where
On 4 Mar 2009, at 08:12, Gervase Markham wrote:
So lets concentrate on that. Lets build a better process. Lets
build a
consensus.
Absolutely! As long as you allow us the time to (i.e. slow down and
stop
trying to get it done by the end of March!), then I'm all for that :-)
Maybe I'm
On 4 Mar 2009, at 16:08, Frederik Ramm wrote:
Hi,
Iván Sánchez Ortega wrote:
Basically, you get enough people (and pay for their memberships) in
order to
buy their votes, in order to eject the current chairman, yadda
yadda yadda.
If you're unhappy with the current chairman you don't
I think others have responded well to most of your rant, if not the
please point it out and I'll respond.
On 3 Mar 2009, at 23:33, Ulf Lamping wrote:
Hi!
I'm not sure you're aware, but you're currently on the best way to
make
the license to kill phrase come true!
First of all: If
On 4 Mar 2009, at 06:49, LeedsTracker wrote:
2009/3/4 Iván Sánchez Ortega i...@sanchezortega.es:
On the other hand, I'm absolutely sure that the ODbL will fail and be
exploited. The same way that the GPL2 was exploited by TiVo. I'm
absolutely
sure the ODbL will not address problems in
On 4 Mar 2009, at 12:02, Nop wrote:
Hi!
Iván Sánchez Ortega schrieb:
El Miércoles, 4 de Marzo de 2009, Ulf Lamping escribió:
Hopefully you know and trust the lawyers, foundation, whoever, ...
involved. WE PROBABLY DON'T KNOW THEM SO WHY SHOULD WE MAGICALLY
TRUST
THEM?!?
Because they
On 4 Mar 2009, at 12:28, Nop wrote:
Hi!
Russ Nelson schrieb:
Hopefully you know and trust the lawyers, foundation, whoever, ...
involved. WE PROBABLY DON'T KNOW THEM SO WHY SHOULD WE MAGICALLY
TRUST
THEM?!?
You can't. There is no magic wand to create trust. Only through
time
On 4 Mar 2009, at 14:53, Russ Nelson wrote:
On Mar 4, 2009, at 5:14 PM, Nop wrote:
And I never heard of it until now. And wasn't in OSM when it was
posted.
Fair enough, but any time you join a group there will be efforts
underway which you haven't contributed to, not know about, nor
On 4 Mar 2009, at 16:57, Matt Amos wrote:
On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 12:49 AM, MP singular...@gmail.com wrote:
3. Define a way for feedback from the community. Maybe some
unoffical
votes would have given an impression on how well a particular idea
would
have worked.
Maybe put up a poll
On 4 Mar 2009, at 16:20, Nop wrote:
Hi!
Martijn van Oosterhout schrieb:
Out of curiosity, what would have been better? The licence has been
recognised to be a problem for years, it was known well before I
joined. It's been discussed at almost every OSM meeting I've been at.
But you're
On 4 Mar 2009, at 16:40, MP wrote:
I personally had no idea about the license change before it got posted
on this list few days ago and I am contributing to OSM for more than
year and half...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_RpSv3HjpEw
Best
Steve
On 4 Mar 2009, at 07:00, Jason Cunningham wrote:
Hi All
I've read through a bundle of licence emails, and there is one
aspect that worries me, which hopefully someone can clarify.
From my understanding (and I dont speak legalese), under the CCBYSA
license you can take OSM data, create
On 4 Mar 2009, at 10:26, Dave Stubbs wrote:
2009/3/4 Gustav Foseid gust...@gmail.com:
On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 6:38 PM, David Earl da...@frankieandshadow.com
wrote:
They used the map to pin the locations - the points did not come
from
some other map. Therefore it is derived (this is
by the way OSMF asked for. I can't remember if it
was Richard 'fake stevec' F, andy or me. But I remember the discussion
vividly when we met Jordan I think the first time.
So if they're just pinning the
locations on the paper map, that's fine. But if they are reading off
the
lat/lon from
On 4 Mar 2009, at 15:56, Frederik Ramm wrote:
Hi,
Matt Amos wrote:
On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 3:20 PM, Dave Stubbs osm.l...@randomjunk.co.uk
wrote:
Your 8 year old kids would be obliged to license their butterfly
data under the ODbL [1] and attribute OSM.
[1] Ignoring potential bug in 0.9
On 4 Mar 2009, at 17:39, SteveC wrote:
You can come to my house and I will make you dinner and you can
inspect under my bed there is no satanic portal to the 3rd circle of
Hell. In fact you are all welcome. I will cook you my awesome (awsum)
organic, 100% Free Of Everything cracked pepper
On 27 Feb 2009, at 05:04, Ben Laenen wrote:
It looks like we finally got some kind of License plan for the step
towards the new license, so everyone check
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Open_Data_License/Implementation_Plan
Let me start with the obvious questions first:
* why don't
Where to begin?
Well FakeSteveC hasn't blogged so far so it's all going fine if that's
your metric.
I've replied to a ton of messages, no doubt in an evil conspiratorial
way to own your souls in the netherworld. I hope it's been a useful
braindump on a lot of issues and we can build
My last reply tonight, I have to go but:
On 4 Mar 2009, at 17:41, Frederik Ramm wrote:
Hi,
SteveC wrote:
Very unlikely, derived individual coordinates are facts. I've
asked multiple lawyers about this personally.
There is a popular project in Switzerland called openaddresses.ch
On 4 Mar 2009, at 23:51, Nop wrote:
2. Provide translations of this in the major languages. Most people
speak English to some degree, but some don't and something of this
importance and with so much legalese involved does need to be in
your
native language to be sure you understood it.
On 4 Mar 2009, at 23:42, Nop wrote:
Hi!
SteveC schrieb:
To me this is similar to ignorance of the law is no defence. The
data, people and facts are out there and it's not our job to serve
them up to you in the specific best way you want. We will help all
we can when you ask
On 5 Mar 2009, at 00:14, Nop wrote:
Hi!
SteveC schrieb:
We've not always done a great job of communicating for a variety of
reasons but it was never with malice.
But you have actually succeeded in making quite a number of people
suspect malice - and warn others about that.
I do
On 4 Mar 2009, at 23:24, 80n wrote:
On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 12:48 AM, SteveC st...@asklater.com wrote:
On 4 Mar 2009, at 08:12, Gervase Markham wrote:
So lets concentrate on that. Lets build a better process. Lets
build a
consensus.
Absolutely! As long as you allow us the time
On 5 Mar 2009, at 01:11, Peter Miller wrote:
On 5 Mar 2009, at 00:29, SteveC wrote:
For your interest my company's lawyer (acting for ITO World Ltd)
is hoping to have her response together in relation to the license
by the end of tomorrow. My company will review her comments
On 4 Mar 2009, at 18:03, Frederik Ramm wrote:
Hi,
SteveC wrote:
One of the things I didn't mention in my long post an that most of
you clearly don't understand is that a court takes *intent* in to
account as guidence in any license dispute. So like case law you
can spend all
On 4 Mar 2009, at 22:27, Nic Roets wrote:
My second question goes to those who live in the various countries
that aren't bankrupt... oh I mean those that aren't in the UK. How is
the community there? Is it bad? Is it good? How can we help. What are
Just to give you an idea of how crazy
On 5 Mar 2009, at 00:55, Frederik Ramm wrote:
Steve,
(Has someone told you that you're overly concerned about your Fake
self? He seems to make an appearance in every second post you write.)
I love him. I want to *be* him.
SteveC wrote:
Over IM and email I've had some really positive
On 4 Mar 2009, at 19:46, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote:
On Thursday 05 March 2009 07:37:28 SteveC wrote:
My second question goes to those who live in the various countries
that aren't bankrupt... oh I mean those that aren't in the UK. How is
the community there? Is it bad? Is it good? How can we
On 5 Mar 2009, at 04:50, Gustav Foseid wrote:
Are you stirring dissent? Are you trying to build
a consensus?
I have provided my view, that the idea behind the license is better
than the current CC-BY-SA, but that some legal aspects needs to be
sorted out. We have one person from a major
You too Andy, great post.
On 5 Mar 2009, at 02:57, Andy Allan wrote:
On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 12:40 AM, MP singular...@gmail.com wrote:
Yes. At least when you expect 10 people to go along and the
issue
has the potential to break OSM apart, it would not be a bad idea
to send
monthly
Great post Dair!
On 5 Mar 2009, at 02:04, Dair Grant wrote:
Nop wrote:
I want to correct something here, there is this view of 100,000
users
needing consent. The number is in fact far smaller for people who
ever
made an edit (about 30% of the users). It's vastly smaller still for
On 5 Mar 2009, at 03:35, Frederik Ramm wrote:
Hi,
Andy Allan wrote:
1) Make the plan and the draft public. Ask for feedback.
2) Wait for feedback to be taken into account and expect/hope for a
final version of the ODbL
3) See if the OSMF board approves
4) See if OSMF members like what
On 5 Mar 2009, at 08:36, David Earl wrote:
(lost track of who said this, but...)
Very unlikely, derived individual coordinates are facts. I've asked
multiple lawyers about this personally.
Are you saying that facts that are derived from a Produced Work are
not covered by the reverse
another fantastic
1. Someone makes a mistake
2. ???
3. It's Steves fault
Bet you were itching to make todays Guardian mistake my fault too, eh?
I can tell you Frederik that I and the rest of us at CloudMade take
great pains to explain the differences between CM and OSM
On 16 Mar 2009, at 17:55, Frederik Ramm wrote:
Hi,
I'm looking at
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Image:Osmdbstats2.png
and I wonder why there is a sudden drop in the node count immediately
before commencing the TIGER import. - It looks as if half our database
was deleted immediately
On 16 Mar 2009, at 18:55, Frederik Ramm wrote:
Hi,
SteveC wrote:
the old tiger import, which was very broken, was deleted
Thanks all. - I thought that the old import had been deleted long
before that but I think now I remember that it had been deleted from
current and was still alive
Dear all
Due to some phone problems for one of our number being unable to dial
in to the call, we decided that we should postpone by a day to sort
those issues out. We covered a little ground - essentially that we've
not had back feedback from OSMFs lawyer yet and some slight changes to
http://www.stateofthemap.org/2009/03/25/help-us-make-a-logo/
The SOTM working group is pleased to announce a call for logo designs.
Our existing logos have served us well and the time is right to look
further afield to make sure we have the best design possible. We’ve
put together a Design
On 21 Mar 2009, at 14:35, Simon Ward wrote:
On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 07:02:09PM +0100, Ulf Möller wrote:
Thinh Nguyen of Creative Commons has posted detailed comments on the
ODbL on the co-ment website.
I think I’ve seen many of those arguments from the Science Commons
project before, and
On 22 Mar 2009, at 06:08, 80n wrote:
Thinh Nguyen of Creative Commons writes:
While some complexities are introduced by differences in background
legal doctrines, others are introduced by the ODbL scheme itself.
These two points about the complexity of the ODbL are important ones
that
On 23 Mar 2009, at 05:47, John Wilbanks wrote:
From: Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net
Though I have a lot of time for CC in general, and agree with their
general
stance that PD is the ideal way to go, I don't really find that a
very
useful response.
I count 20 occurrences of
On 23 Mar 2009, at 06:44, John Wilbanks wrote:
But open data is much more than just science and education. It's more
than OSM; it's more than maps. The assiduous
how-late-is-my-sodding-train-today people on our town website, for
example, are creating a database that could potentially be
I rather stupidly forgot the bit about the winning entry would entitle
the creator to a free weekend ticket to SOTM:
The winning entry will be rewarded with a full weekend ticket to
SOTM!
Best
Steve
On 25 Mar 2009, at 09:51, SteveC wrote:
http://www.stateofthemap.org/2009/03/25/help-us
On 25 Mar 2009, at 11:34, Andy Allan wrote:
On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 5:36 PM, SteveC st...@asklater.com wrote:
On 22 Mar 2009, at 06:08, 80n wrote:
The complexity arguments are largely superfluous.
[...]
I get in my car every day and drive to work without knowing
how the engine management
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