[OSM-talk] After approval of a map feature, please also add the feature to the Appoved Features page

2007-12-31 Thread Ulf Lamping
Hi! There were some approvals in recent days. Please don't forget to add them to http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Approved_features (simply moving the according line from the proposed to approved page will do the trick). I've added place=locality, but there might be others ...

[OSM-talk] [voting] shop=dry_cleaning - approved

2007-12-31 Thread Ulf Lamping
Hi List! The voting about shop=dry_cleaning ended with 7 approvals and no disapprovals. I've moved it from the proposed to the approved pages and also added it to the map features page. Regards, ULFL ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk] [RFC] shop = laundromat - shop=laundry

2007-12-31 Thread Ulf Lamping
Ulf Lamping schrieb: There's an RFC about shop=laundromat, please have a look at: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Proposed_features/Laundromat There were some comments and talk on the list about Laundromat vs. Launderette vs. Laundry. I've changed the proposal to http

Re: [OSM-talk] more votes requested - man_made=sub_station

2008-01-04 Thread Ulf Lamping
Robin Paulson schrieb: On 04/01/2008, Brent Easton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You don't need any more votes. If there are no negative votes, then 6 Yes's is enough to approve it. it is? oh, i thought it was 10. 6 seems awfully low thanks though, wil move it across to approved

Re: [OSM-talk] redundant proposal? - man_made=fenced_compounds

2008-01-05 Thread Ulf Lamping
Robin Paulson schrieb: On 04/01/2008, Michael Collinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: is there an acknowledged way of removing them, without going through the whole comments/opinions/voting process? Ye, it would certainly be good to be more aggressive in cleaning up up the Proposals

Re: [OSM-talk] more information needed - tourism=rest_camp

2008-01-05 Thread Ulf Lamping
Robin Paulson schrieb: could the person who proposed: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Proposed_features/Rest_Camp please provide some more information on the proposal? it is unclear what it is actually for, beyond duplicating a range of other tags failing that, could it be

[OSM-talk] [voting] shop=laundry

2008-01-20 Thread Ulf Lamping
Hi! The corresponding RFC is now more than two weeks ago, with no substantial problems shown up (since it was updated 2007-12-31). Voting is opened for the next two weeks at http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Proposed_features/Laundry Regards, ULFL

Re: [OSM-talk] Pillbox proposal approved

2008-01-21 Thread Ulf Lamping
Geoff Richards schrieb: The voting period on my Pillbox proposal is finished (it's had two weeks now), with 8 votes for and none against. I'll now do the necessary editing and add it to the Map_Features page. Hi! Please don't simply remove the discussion / voting from a proposal if it

Re: [OSM-talk] Pillbox proposal approved

2008-01-21 Thread Ulf Lamping
Geoff Richards schrieb: On Mon, Jan 21, 2008 at 09:38:15PM +0100, Ulf Lamping wrote: Please don't simply remove the discussion / voting from a proposal if it get's aproved! Sorry, I was just copying what others had done on previous proposals. Your just the first one, when I had

Re: [OSM-talk] Nokia N810

2008-01-25 Thread Ulf Lamping
David Earl schrieb: Has anyone got a Nokia N810? (This is a Linux internet tablet with a built in GPS - http://europe.nokia.com/A4568578 - that someone mentioned on this list a while back, and is now available). If so, how easy is it to get at the raw data and/or a GPX file for the GPS.

Re: [OSM-talk] Kosmos v1.9 - poster printing OSM maps

2008-01-27 Thread Ulf Lamping
Igor Brejc schrieb: Hello everyone, As I promised a while back, Kosmos can now print OSM maps on multiple pages. For those interested more info is here: http://igorbrejc.net/openstreetmap/kosmos/kosmos-v19-printing-maps-inspecting-elements-and-more Hi Igor! I just wanted to have a

Re: [OSM-talk] Kosmos v1.9 - poster printing OSM maps

2008-01-28 Thread Ulf Lamping
Igor Brejc schrieb: Hello Ulf, On Sun, Jan 27, 2008 at 11:27 PM, Ulf Lamping [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Igor! I just wanted to have a short look at the Kosmos source code, just out of interest. But I couldn't find it in the OSM svn or on your own

Re: [OSM-talk] I've removed historic=icon from map features

2008-01-28 Thread Ulf Lamping
Marc Schütz schrieb: I have now created two proposals: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Proposed_features/wayside_shrine http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Proposed_features/wayside_cross Hi Marc! First of all, I'm not against putting these things into OSM as they often can

Re: [OSM-talk] Move tagging RfCs/voting to extra list?

2008-01-28 Thread Ulf Lamping
Frederik Ramm schrieb: At the time, I thought we had somewhat of a consensus that we should either create an extra list or have one condensed voting issues posting per week (or so). I don't think that 'or' is the right word here. If we want to split these topics into a seperate list, we

Re: [OSM-talk] Move tagging RfCs/voting to extra list?

2008-01-28 Thread Ulf Lamping
Frederik Ramm schrieb: Hi, Well, if nobody wants to write digests, then IMHO it's just not a good idea to move to a seperate mailing list. Well in that case I'd say let's just bin the whole voting process and live happily ever after ;-) Hopefully I'm too well behaved to answer

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] filtering of tagging e-mails (was Re: Move tagging RfCs/voting to extra list?)

2008-01-30 Thread Ulf Lamping
Robin Paulson schrieb: from now on, until someone creates an extra tagging list, i'll include [tagging] in every tag proposals e-mail, to let those of you who aren't interested, filter out this stuff easily. every e-mail client has filter capabilities, so this shouldn't be a problem. i'll

Re: [OSM-talk] Tagwatch

2008-01-30 Thread Ulf Lamping
Etric Celine schrieb: Hi everyone, as you may or may not have noticed i have recently worked a bit on the existing Tagwatch script and changed a few things. My changes includes * the use of a template parsing engine and thus a better looking website * use of the Osmarender 6 rules file

[OSM-talk] OSM icons (was: Crudely-drawn pint glasses)

2008-01-30 Thread Ulf Lamping
Igor Brejc schrieb: Is there somewhere a repository of totally free general-purpose icons such as this? I'm asking because I would like to extend Kosmos rendering rules with some nice icons. The collection of OSM icons in SVN [0] is quite usable and should contain most of what you need.

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM icons

2008-01-31 Thread Ulf Lamping
Igor Brejc schrieb: On Thu, Jan 31, 2008 at 2:39 AM, Ulf Lamping [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Would be nice if Kosmos would use the same icons for the same things as JOSM does. P.S: I still consider Kosmos to be closed source, so be careful

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] request for more votes - power_plant

2008-02-03 Thread Ulf Lamping
Robin Paulson schrieb: this has been open for two weeks, and currently has 10 yes votes and 1 no votes. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Proposed_features/Power_plants could i request some more votes please, to push it one way or the other. unless ulf wants to re-consider his

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] grouping simple tag proposals

2008-02-03 Thread Ulf Lamping
Robert Vollmert schrieb: Hello, On Feb 3, 2008, at 20:20, Robin Paulson wrote: taking on board one of Frederic's comments from last week: there are a lot of proposed 'shop' tags on the proposals page, something which is overwhelming and time-consuming to solve using our current method of

[OSM-talk] [tagging] confusion: tourism=zoo vs. leisure=zoo?!? Proposal differs from map features page!

2008-02-05 Thread Ulf Lamping
Hi! As someone pointed out on the german list. The zoo tag in map features is under tourism: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Map_Features#Tourism But the corresponding proposal is clearly using leisure: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Proposed_features/Zoo or see:

Re: [OSM-talk] Garmin icon for a bicycle

2008-02-07 Thread Ulf Lamping
Karl Newman schrieb: Appallingly, that icon seems to be omitted from the Garmin POI types. You'll have to substitute a different type, or maybe create your own icon. Or maybe one of the bicycle icons from: http://www.gpsdrive.de/development/map-icons/overview_lic.en.shtml, especially

Re: [OSM-talk] Lighthouses? Should they be rendering?

2008-02-09 Thread Ulf Lamping
Mike Collinson schrieb: At 04:25 PM 9/02/2008, Lauri Hahne wrote: On 09/02/2008, Dermot McNally [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: PS: I'd still love to see those lighthouses we do map appearing on the rendered output. Usually that requires pressuring the right guys in irc.

[OSM-talk] Neuer OSM T-Shirt Vorschlag

2008-02-14 Thread Ulf Lamping
Hi! Ich hab mich auch mal in der hohen Kunst des T-Shirt Designs versucht ;-) Bei meinen Experimenten hab ich einiges ausprobiert, z.B. auch eine bildliche Kausalkette versucht - also Bilder von Satellit, GPS Receiver, Computer, Karte - das sieht aber dann irgendwie wegen der vielen Details

Re: [OSM-talk] How to correct logical errors in some effective way?

2008-03-01 Thread Ulf Lamping
Rahkonen Jukka schrieb: Hi, When I am looking at the Scandinavian data loaded into PostGIS database with the fine osm2pgsql utility (thanks, Artem) I can simply find hundreds or thousands of logical errors in data. For example this is an excerpt from the list of highway tags used in the

Re: [OSM-talk] How to correct logical errors in some effective way?

2008-03-01 Thread Ulf Lamping
Colin Marquardt schrieb: Rahkonen Jukka [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: When I am looking at the Scandinavian data loaded into PostGIS database with the fine osm2pgsql utility (thanks, Artem) I can simply find hundreds or thousands of logical errors in data. For example this is an excerpt from

Re: [OSM-talk] How to correct logical errors in some effective way?

2008-03-02 Thread Ulf Lamping
Alex S. schrieb: Ulf Lamping wrote: place_of_warship, ... Shouldn't that be naval_yard? ;) Hmm, full tagging should be: amenity=place_of_warship religion=military denomination=U.S.Navy ;-))) Regards, ULFL ___ talk mailing list talk

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Voting - skyhook

2008-03-06 Thread Ulf Lamping
Stephen Gower schrieb: Voting is now open on the Skyhook proposal - please add your support: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Proposed_features/Skyhook s I'm still not sure if this proposal was actually *intended* to discourage anyone spending his time to work on the

Re: [OSM-talk] Map_Features not loading

2008-03-09 Thread Ulf Lamping
Chris Hill schrieb: The Map_Features page has really suffered. Having a single page with a list of all the tags was easy to search, now there are various places to search. Can we put it back to a single page plse. FULL ACK - the current page is a PITA! Regards, ULFL P.S: If the templates

Re: [OSM-talk] Map_Features not loading

2008-03-11 Thread Ulf Lamping
wiseLYNX schrieb: Stephen Gower wrote: On Sun, Mar 09, 2008 at 12:54:53PM +0100, Pieren Pieren wrote: FULL ACK - the current page is a PITA! +1 I restored the single page. -1 The full page has got way too long to actually be useful. In my opinion, it

Re: [OSM-talk] Tag proposal/approval system is too heavyweight

2008-03-19 Thread Ulf Lamping
Frederik Ramm schrieb: BUT: The way we usually do things around here is those who do the work get to decide how it's done. You are, and not for the first time, talking about how to control what OTHERS do and how they do it (your example is not whether you tag in miles or kilometres, but

Re: [OSM-talk] Tag proposal/approval system is too heavyweight

2008-03-19 Thread Ulf Lamping
Frederik Ramm schrieb: Interestingly, your vineyard example is exactly working that way. YOU have decided that you want to have vineyards in the way you like it. YOU have implemented it into osmarender to be shown on the map. So in effect YOU control how others do theirs - by setting the

Re: [OSM-talk] [Tagging] Vote: Shooting

2008-03-19 Thread Ulf Lamping
Alex Mauer schrieb: Voting is now open on tagging for the sport of shooting. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Proposed_features/Shooting Please record your vote. Page says: voting is not open yet, proposed for 2008-02-12 Regards, ULFL

Re: [OSM-talk] Tag proposal/approval system is too heavyweight

2008-03-20 Thread Ulf Lamping
Dave Stubbs schrieb: I think the problem is the use of the language in regard to the feature itself. A single person approving of a tag is obviously fine, but once a vote happens, and about 10 people approve of it, the tag then becomes an Approved Tag... or at least some people think it

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] RFC: railway=incline

2008-03-29 Thread Ulf Lamping
Andy Allan schrieb: On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 9:02 PM, Alex Mauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sven Geggus wrote: To be serious, I don't like this pseudo object-oriented railway:incline:traction= stuff at all. Huh? object oriented? It's like that in order to prevent potential

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapnik: amenity=bus_station

2008-04-06 Thread Ulf Lamping
Matt Williams schrieb: On Sunday 06 April 2008 12:38:59 Steven te Brinke wrote: Hello, The current mapnik rules will render amenity=bus_stop, but the map features define it as amenity=bus_station. Well, in my mind a bus stop and a bus station are different amenities. A bus stop

Re: [OSM-talk] Voting

2008-04-07 Thread Ulf Lamping
Frederik Ramm schrieb: Hi, stumbled across a quote by David D Clark (of Internet architecture fame) today. He said: We reject: kings, presidents and voting. We believe in: rough consensus and running code. Not that I'm into gurus and such but it's nice to see that I am not the

Re: [OSM-talk] Voting

2008-04-08 Thread Ulf Lamping
Frederik Ramm schrieb: Hi, Hmmm, you and some other guys effectively sabotaged voting several times. This is not the first time you use the word sabotage in this context. I think it's rather strong language; I have openly expressed my opinion that's all. I just use the wording that I

Re: [OSM-talk] Vandalism in Trumpington

2008-04-27 Thread Ulf Lamping
Richard Fairhurst schrieb: Frederik Ramm wrote: Is the fact that Potlatch does live editing a design decision, or are there technical reasons behind it (i.e. it would be much more difficult to have a Flash editor with a save button)? It's a design decision. If you do buffered

[OSM-talk] JOSM rendering improvements the last days - I'm guilty!

2008-07-14 Thread Ulf Lamping
Hi! As some people using the latest JOSM versions already noted, I'm currently (again) trying to improve the JOSM rendering output to be even more useful to our valuable mappers ;-) So if you update JOSM to the latest nightly build, you'll get: - more tags now shows an icon: amenity, shop,

Re: [OSM-talk] Recommended GPS for logs for OSM *and* for vehicle - is there such a beast?

2008-08-27 Thread Ulf Lamping
Chris G schrieb: I'm after a GPS system which I can use to provide data for OSM maps and as a 'normal' GPS system to tell me where to go when I'm on my motorbike. Is there anything which can provide both facilities or should I give up and buy two separate devices? It's doubtful (to me) if

Re: [OSM-talk] Map legends: Another option

2009-06-27 Thread Ulf Lamping
Stefan Baebler schrieb: It's nice seeing changing road width with zoom also in the legend! It would be also interesting to hide features that are not appearing in the map currently being shown. Sure it would require a bbox query, but it would be much more user friendly (eg when matching 2

Re: [OSM-talk] Undo request button for changesets

2009-07-14 Thread Ulf Lamping
Tom Hughes schrieb: On 14/07/09 08:30, Bernhard zwischenbrugger wrote: Now we have the changesets like http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/1815935 It's relative easy to identify bad edits. Is it possible to add an undo request button or spam button to this page? What are you

Re: [OSM-talk] Undo request button for changesets

2009-07-14 Thread Ulf Lamping
Shaun McDonald schrieb: On 14 Jul 2009, at 09:50, Ulf Lamping wrote: Tom Hughes schrieb: because in general terms it won't work - reverting will often need manual intervention to resolve conflicts. I've heard this argument many times before, but no prove that it is actually true. Why

Re: [OSM-talk] Search field on www.openstreetmap.org

2009-07-30 Thread Ulf Lamping
Tom Hughes schrieb: The whole home page needs a redesign, and I don't really want to start fiddling with little things like this when we should be doing the job properly. There are also issues with search at the moment which mean we don't actually want to make it too prominent. Since

Re: [OSM-talk] tag:amenity=doctor

2009-08-02 Thread Ulf Lamping
Martin Koppenhoefer schrieb: 2009/8/2 John Smith delta_foxt...@yahoo.com: list but before annoying everyone on that list, I thought that which is the preferred tag should be decided. JOSM has numerous tags that aren't official Speaking of which, can anyone think of a better way to put

Re: [OSM-talk] tag:amenity=doctor

2009-08-02 Thread Ulf Lamping
Martin Koppenhoefer schrieb: 2009/8/2 Ulf Lamping ulf.lamp...@googlemail.com: Well, when I introduced doctors in JOSMs mappaint (and Christoph to the Presets), there was a clear majority of doctors and not doctor. If people use the term doctors, we shouldn't force them to use doctor just

Re: [OSM-talk] Does this mean we could launch our own OSM satellite?

2009-08-02 Thread Ulf Lamping
OJ W schrieb: On Sun, Aug 2, 2009 at 10:03 PM, Marc Coevoetsintsix...@gmail.com wrote: You can try the quadcopter too.. how would launching a quadcopter into orbit help? That's a small step for openstreetmap, one giant leap for quadcopters ;-) Regards, ULFL

Re: [OSM-talk] Proliferation of path vs. footway

2009-08-11 Thread Ulf Lamping
Frederik Ramm schrieb: Hi, Tom Chance wrote: 1 – Nobody can actually agree what highway=path means so it is being used in different senses all over the world, which reduces its usefulness to near zero Perhaps it really *is* useless and it was good that our process demonstrated that?

Re: [OSM-talk] Proliferation of path vs. footway

2009-08-11 Thread Ulf Lamping
Roy Wallace schrieb: On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 8:05 PM, Emilie Laffrayemilie.laff...@gmail.com wrote: We should stop reinventing the wheel. Let's work on those definitions first to make sure that everyone and every languages are on the same wavelength. Agreed. I think: step 1) Work out

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (geological=palaeontological_site)

2009-08-11 Thread Ulf Lamping
marcellobil...@gmail schrieb: Deal all, I'd like to propose a new tag: geological=palaeontological_site. I would welcome comments on the Proposed Features page: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/geological=palaeontological_site Hi Marcello! In my years of tagging

Re: [OSM-talk] How to tag giant acorn?

2009-08-12 Thread Ulf Lamping
John Smith schrieb: --- On Wed, 12/8/09, Kate maps2w...@gmail.com wrote: At the last DC mapping party in Silver Spring, Maryland, I came across a giant acorn that should be marked on OSM, but not sure the best way to tag it: tourism=viewpoint ? To qoute Map Features about viewpoint: A

Re: [OSM-talk] park barrier

2009-08-13 Thread Ulf Lamping
Vikas Yadav schrieb: I made this icon for JOSM. My not an artist. This is the top with walls on both sides. Hi Vidas! I'm not an artist as well. Anyway, I've took your icon as an inspiration (your icon looked blurred when scaled down to 16*16 pixels) and added a similar one to the JOSM

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM Mailing List Reply To Header

2009-09-03 Thread Ulf Lamping
Patrick Petschge Kilian schrieb: Hi, Am I missing something, But it would help if the Reply-to header on all messages that go through the list(s) gets set to the list email, so that when we hit reply the message goes to the list by default. In short you missed

Re: [OSM-talk] Software Freedom Day

2009-09-05 Thread Ulf Lamping
Jonathan Bennett schrieb: Tobias Knerr wrote: How about offer reliable service with good uptimes? After the recent maintenance weekend it was stated that our services are not really intended for the public (at least if they need them and don't just experiment with them) and we are only about

Re: [OSM-talk] Software Freedom Day

2009-09-05 Thread Ulf Lamping
andrzej zaborowski schrieb: 2009/9/5 Apollinaris Schoell ascho...@gmail.com: For any external use like SFD it makes sense to stay with a commercial solution where they can get paid support and customization if needed. My only issue with this is that it places OSM behind Google, because when

Re: [OSM-talk] Software Freedom Day

2009-09-06 Thread Ulf Lamping
Robert (Jamie) Munro schrieb: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ulf Lamping wrote: Please also note, that it's really easy to switch from OSM to Google maps (and back) if you're using openlayers. But you have to rewrite your javascript code (completely?) if you want to go

Re: [OSM-talk] Software Freedom Day

2009-09-06 Thread Ulf Lamping
Serge Wroclawski schrieb: On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 12:59 PM, Ulf Lampingulf.lamp...@googlemail.com wrote: Please also note, that it's really easy to switch from OSM to Google maps (and back) if you're using openlayers. But you have to rewrite your javascript code (completely?) if you want to

[OSM-talk] OSM Wiki OpenLayer live examples get 404 not found

2009-09-07 Thread Ulf Lamping
Hi! The openlayer wiki examples in [1] links to none existing example files at [2]. Have the files moved somewhere else or are they gone due to the recent dev server changes? Regards, ULFL [1] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OpenLayers [2]

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM Wiki OpenLayer live examples get 404 not found

2009-09-07 Thread Ulf Lamping
Tom Hughes schrieb: On 08/09/09 00:24, Thomas Wood wrote: My apologies, I meant to change the links. Try errol.openstreetmap.org/... Please don't do that, both because it doesn't work and because we don't have to get people used to referring to the machine by that name. You jumped the

Re: [OSM-talk] How to map cemetery ?

2009-09-09 Thread Ulf Lamping
Craig Wallace schrieb: On 09/09/2009 22:00, David Earl wrote: On 09/09/2009 21:43, Valent Turkovic wrote: Is grave_yard tag used? I don't see it in JOSM. Why is the wiki so confusing for this simple thing to map. I think the original distinction was that a graveyard is the burial

Re: [OSM-talk] How to map cemetery ?

2009-09-09 Thread Ulf Lamping
Craig Wallace schrieb: On 10/09/2009 01:21, Ulf Lamping wrote: Well, it's simply a bad thing to indicate stuff by something that's nearby. What's nearby? 1m/10m/100m/1000m? Is it indicated by a place_of_worship, a building=church or xy? But why does it matter whether there is a church

Re: [OSM-talk] upload from cvs

2009-09-14 Thread Ulf Lamping
John Smith schrieb: 2009/9/12 Sarah Hoffmann lon...@denofr.de: I dare say that most of the ele tags in Switzerland are taken from the hiking posts at the moment, so I'd keep the CH1903 data for consistency. Maybe we should add a note in the wiki somewhere? Actually that would make the

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap cheat mug now available

2009-09-16 Thread Ulf Lamping
Frederik Ramm schrieb: Hi, Maning wrote: Can we request permission use the design to produce mugs locally? I will check with them and report back. Ken wrote: and to perhaps print out and laminate the design for use as a general OSM cheatsheet? ;-) Like this:

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] [mkgmap-dev] ANNOUNCE: Free Garmin MapSource installer available

2009-09-19 Thread Ulf Lamping
Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason schrieb: On Sat, Sep 19, 2009 at 1:21 PM, dom Team OiD d...@team-oid.de wrote: Hi, I'm sure such a tool is really cool stuff. I already experimented with easy installer, whcih is creating msi packaes for windows. I didn't use your installer, so this question comes up.

Re: [OSM-talk] Flickr Now Supports OSM Tags

2009-09-30 Thread Ulf Lamping
Chris Hill schrieb: Yeah, OK Dave, we've got the message, you don't free-format tags. Unfortunately you're going to have to get used to it, because it is the basis of the OPENstreetmap and, in my opinion, one of the reasons it is as successful as it is. Successful in what way?

Re: [OSM-talk] Flickr Now Supports OSM Tags

2009-10-01 Thread Ulf Lamping
Jonathan Bennett schrieb: Russ Nelson wrote: On the other side you have mappers who want to create useful data, not a pile of random rubbish. No-one wants to create random rubbish. What people do want is to be able to describe what they've just mapped without needing prior approval from

Re: [OSM-talk] Flickr Now Supports OSM Tags

2009-10-01 Thread Ulf Lamping
Roy Wallace schrieb: On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 12:36 PM, Ulf Lamping ulf.lamp...@googlemail.com wrote: What you and others simply fail to explain is why the success story from three years ago with a fraction of mappers and data must be the best solution for the situation we have today

Re: [OSM-talk] SteveC should decide

2009-10-02 Thread Ulf Lamping
Gervase Markham schrieb: On 01/10/09 04:26, John Smith wrote: I still like Shaun's idea of a committee We really, really need a committee to decide what values we are going to standardize for binary true and false? If that's true, we are doomed. How on earth are we going to make any

Re: [OSM-talk] SteveC should decide

2009-10-03 Thread Ulf Lamping
ed...@billiau.net schrieb: Frederik said All this is possible *within* the existing OSM framework and without any strong leader telling us where to go. I really do encourage you and all those calling for leadership to get together, form your own advisory board or tagging committee or

Re: [OSM-talk] SteveC should decide

2009-10-03 Thread Ulf Lamping
DavidD schrieb: If that isn't good enough what other method is there? How do you get from where OSM is now to the goal? Until someone starts coming up with ideas that have some connection to reality this will get nowhere. At the moment it is not much more than a bunch of people yelling this

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC -(man_made=mineshaft)

2009-10-20 Thread Ulf Lamping
Anthony schrieb: Disused canal, fine. Disused railway, sure. Disused building, no problem. Disused quarry, yes. But disused cafe? A cafe is a building, or part of a building, which is *used* as a cafe. The use is part of the definition. Well, yes and no. People might remember that

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC -(man_made=mineshaft)

2009-10-21 Thread Ulf Lamping
Peter Childs schrieb: Yes But, If a Pub is tagged amenity=pub disused=yes The thing looks like a put (ie large pub like lables) hence works relatively well as a land mark, it just happens to be closed and does not sell Beer anymore. Its still useful if its a landmark. same as a

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC -(man_made=mineshaft)

2009-10-21 Thread Ulf Lamping
Someoneelse schrieb: Ulf Lamping wrote: A former cafe can be helpful as a landmark as well. Especially when it's a free standing building (e.g. in a forest) near a larger city, which is not that uncommon in germany. Whether you think it's still a café (or a pub) or not might depend

Re: [OSM-talk] Mountain Passes - Display Issue

2009-10-26 Thread Ulf Lamping
Shalabh schrieb: Hi, Just to bring to the group's notice. I added a few mountain passes a couple of days ago along with the hiking trails and waypoints Indrahar Pass at N32 17.852 E76 22.872, elevation 4342 metres Jalsu Pass at N32 10.929 E76 41.018, elevation 3425 metres Bhubhu Pass at

Re: [OSM-talk] Mountain Passes - Display Issue

2009-10-26 Thread Ulf Lamping
Dodi schrieb: Ulf wrote: Shalabh schrieb: Hi, Just to bring to the group's notice. I added a few mountain passes a couple of days ago along with the hiking trails and waypoints When I now check on OSM, while the trails are there along with the waypoints, the passes are missing. However,

Re: [OSM-talk] Mountain Passes - Display Issue

2009-10-26 Thread Ulf Lamping
Dave G schrieb: sorry that should read: ele=1234m mountain_pass=yes name=Harman Pass place=locality as in: iframe width=425 height=350 frameborder=0 scrolling=no marginheight=0 marginwidth=0

Re: [OSM-talk] Illegal activity

2009-10-28 Thread Ulf Lamping
Stefan de Konink schrieb: On Wed, 28 Oct 2009, Valent Turkovic wrote: http://forums.x-plane.org/index.php?showtopic=40148 what to do with OSM mappers like these guys in this post? They say that they are using Google Earth images :( In some countries factual information is a legal source

Re: [OSM-talk] Illegal activity

2009-11-01 Thread Ulf Lamping
Russ Nelson schrieb: Peteris Krisjanis writes: Anyway, to resume all this discussion - PLEASE don't trace from photo without permission for OSM, whatever your temptations are. E, no. The USGS Digital Ortho Quads are in the public domain; no permission necessary to trace off of

Re: [OSM-talk] Mountain Passes - Display Issue

2009-11-02 Thread Ulf Lamping
Patrick Kilian schrieb: Hi all, Just to bring to the group's notice. I added a few mountain passes a couple of days ago along with the hiking trails and waypoints When I now check on OSM, while the trails are there along with the waypoints, the passes are missing. However, when I

Re: [OSM-talk] Seamark/Marine-Tagging-Proposal open for Voting

2009-11-11 Thread Ulf Lamping
Mario Salvini schrieb: Hi Sam, man_made=lighthouse tells us something about the physical issue of this building. seamark=lighthouse tells us something about the role as a naval navigation mark. the same problem we have with man_made=beacon. Without any further information nobody can

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap routing service

2008-09-06 Thread Ulf Lamping
Lambertus schrieb: I hope this effort in collecting readily available software will be useful in validating/improving the data, inspire further software developement and attract new contributors. Please give it a try and tell me what you think:

Re: [OSM-talk] trace from a kml ?

2008-09-17 Thread Ulf Lamping
Hendrik T Voelker schrieb: Am 16.09.2008 um 22:46 Uhr schrieb leblatt: But if I try to convert from kml to gpx with GPSBabel, I get a trackfilter-init: Found track point without time! error, and no conversion occurs. Well, maybe it would be enough to add timestamps to the KML file (by

Re: [OSM-talk] Code of conduct for automated (mass-) edits

2008-09-30 Thread Ulf Lamping
DavidD schrieb: 2008/9/29 Ulf Lamping [EMAIL PROTECTED]: P.S: While I was doing a lot of changes in the past weeks, you were the only one complaining - any other reaction I got was simply positive ... Here is another complaint from last month. http://openstreetmap.org/api/0.5/way/25207084

Re: [OSM-talk] Code of conduct for automated (mass-) edits

2008-10-02 Thread Ulf Lamping
Frederik Ramm schrieb: Hi, Frederik Ramm wrote: I am in favour of setting up a code of conduct for automated edits. I have now created http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Automated_Edits with a sub-page for a code of conduct. Feel free to modify the text until it reflects a

Re: [OSM-talk] pub vs café

2008-10-18 Thread Ulf Lamping
Frederik Ramm schrieb: Hi, paul youlten wrote: The difference between pubs and restaurants is a getting a bit blurred. But not so much between pubs and cafes. [interesting details] If a cafe or restaurant wants to sell alcohol they have to apply for a licence just like a pub or a

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] I've added some new shop values in Map Features

2008-10-24 Thread Ulf Lamping
Richard Fairhurst schrieb: Ulf Lamping wrote: 204 books (in obvious contrary to amenity=library) A library lends books, a bookshop sells them. As I said: obviously :-) 292 florist (BTW: in future, garden_centre seems to become the value for potted flower shops) Generally

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapnik rendering of paths + place=locality in general

2008-11-06 Thread Ulf Lamping
Martijn van Oosterhout schrieb: On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 8:47 PM, sylvain letuffe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah, I know there are strong oppositions on this list to that way of doing, some guys that have the power by the fact they own the renderer might be unappy of changes they have to do on

Re: [OSM-talk] Markers on the slippy map

2008-11-09 Thread Ulf Lamping
Gervase Markham schrieb: According to: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Browsing#Adding_a_Marker this URL: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?mlat=51.64685mlon=-0.14641zoom=15layers=B000FFF should have a marker in the middle, but it doesn't. Am I doing something wrong, or is something

Re: [OSM-talk] Turn restriction docs

2008-11-29 Thread Ulf Lamping
Erik Johansson schrieb: I've been looking at the 100 or so turn restrictions[1] in use, and most of them don't follow the spec set up on the wiki making the description very confusing. Considering how complicated relations feels I'm asking here instead of just changing the wiki:

Re: [OSM-talk] Turn restriction docs

2008-11-30 Thread Ulf Lamping
Cartinus schrieb: On Sunday 30 November 2008 03:07:02 Ulf Lamping wrote: I've just added a table to that wiki page that tries to map existing road signs to the corresponding restriction values. I don't know if this is the same everywhere in Europe, but sign 7b (the only square sign

Re: [OSM-talk] Turn restriction docs

2008-11-30 Thread Ulf Lamping
David Earl schrieb: On Sunday 30 November 2008 03:07:02 Ulf Lamping wrote: I've just added a table to that wiki page that tries to map existing road signs to the corresponding restriction values. In most situations where you see these signs they are used in conjunction with a No Entry

Re: [OSM-talk] A top tip for winter mapping

2008-12-13 Thread Ulf Lamping
LeedsTracker schrieb: Hello all, I was out mapping on foot around town and found my bluetooth GPS was getting poor reception in my coat pockets. It was cold out, so I stuck the GPS on top of my head and pulled my woolly hat over it. Anyone looking closely might have seen a few flashing

[OSM-talk] Some more shops and amenities for the map features page ...

2008-12-20 Thread Ulf Lamping
Hi! Again, I've added some more shop and amenity values to the map features page (http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Map_Features), derived from the tagwatch usage statistics (http://tagwatch.stoecker.eu/Europe/En/index.html). I've added the following values - with the current tagwatch

Re: [OSM-talk] Which entry level budget garmin

2009-01-05 Thread Ulf Lamping
Tanveer Singh schrieb: I am getting a garmin in car unit($200) Needless to day the following two functionalities are needed 1. Read OSM maps(all nuvi can read from SD card) 2. Write gpx data with altitude and timestamp info The second point has gotten me stumped a bit, and I am torn between

Re: [OSM-talk] Which entry level budget garmin

2009-01-05 Thread Ulf Lamping
Stephen Hope schrieb: It's not hard to test. When I was unsure if my device was doing this or not, I set it to snap to road, and then took it for a little walk along the edge and then cut some corners in a park, then looked at the tracks. For my specific device (not a Zumo), I discovered

[OSM-talk] JOSM Mappaint - major improvements

2009-01-12 Thread Ulf Lamping
Hi! After a week of intensive work, I was able to *significantly* improve the performance of JOSM mappaint (the standard way JOSM paints the OSM data). With the JOSM version of monday, I saw an improvement in my current tests (machine: WinXp, Core Duo, 1.8GHz) from ~600ms to around ~150ms

Re: [OSM-talk] node vs. area for amenities in wiki templates

2009-01-23 Thread Ulf Lamping
Tobias Knerr schrieb: Map Features as well as the info boxes on the individual pages list many building amenities (cafe, cinema...) and other usually area-like amenities (grave_yard) as node features, while others (brothel, crematorium...) allow for node or area representation. In some cases,

Re: [OSM-talk] mapping driveways

2009-01-24 Thread Ulf Lamping
Greg Troxel schrieb: Sorry if this is on the wiki - I've tried to read the relevant parts. I live in a semi-rural area where there are a lot of long driveways. Some of these show up on the map, mostly due to MassGIS bulk imports. For commercial places, and other places where the public

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