Re: [Talk-is] Landupplýsingagáttin

2012-08-20 Thread Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2012/8/19 Svavar Kjarrval sva...@kjarrval.is: Var að prófa landupplýsingagátt Landmælinga Íslands og sá að þeir bjóða upp á WMS afhendingu sem þeir lista á vefsíðunni þeirra. Væri það þess virði að fá leyfi til að nota þær fyrir OpenStreetMap? Þeir gefa upp slóðina á færslunni sjálfri svo það

Re: [Talk-is] Gögn sem hurfu fyrir Mosfellsbæ

2012-07-22 Thread Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
Held það sé best að spyrja á almenna póstlistanum hvernig á að höndla þetta. 2012/7/21 Svavar Kjarrval sva...@kjarrval.is: Veit ekki betur en að setja þurfi inn gögnin aftur inn sérstaklega. Efast um að það gerist sjálfkrafa. - Svavar Kjarrval On 21/07/12 17:50, bald...@baldvin.com wrote:

Re: [Talk-is] Mosfellsbær og OSMF Redaction

2012-07-20 Thread Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
Þetta var DouglasAtEik sem setti þetta svæði inn, það er enn aðgengilegt á http://osm.nix.is/archive/2012-07-20/Iceland.osm.bz2 Ef þú nærð ekki í hann í póst sérðu númerið hjá honum ef þú leitar að douglas eik á ja.is. 2012/7/20 bald...@baldvin.com: Sæl. Sé að Mosfellsbær svo gott sem

Re: [Talk-is] Árangur í Hafnarfirði

2012-07-18 Thread Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
Þetta er frábært, vel gert! 2012/7/18 Svavar Kjarrval sva...@kjarrval.is: Hæ. Eftir mikla vinnu get ég með ánægju sagt að Hafnarfjörður er ágætlega nálægt því að vera kláraður. Flestar, ef ekki allar götur, hafa verið leiðréttar í samræmi við BING loftmyndirnar og húslínur eru til staðar

Re: [Talk-is] Ég sendi skilaboð á þá sem ekki hafa enn samþykkt Contributor Terms

2012-03-29 Thread Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2012/3/26 Björgvin Ragnarsson nifgr...@gmail.com: Listann yfir notendur fann ég hér: http://odbl.poole.ch/iceland-20120213-20120321-poly.html þið þurfið því ekki að ónáða þá líka, Hvernig gekk þetta? Ég býst við að þú eigir við í gegnum OSM skilaboðakerfið, ég er með upplýsingar um aðrar

[Talk-is] Hjólavefsjá.is lénið rennur út 16. ágúst

2011-07-27 Thread Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
Á ekki Reykjavíkurborg að vera halda þessu við? $ parallel -k 'whois {} | grep expire' ::: hjolavefsja.is xn--hjlavefsj-81a4q.is expires: August 16 2011 expires: August 16 2011 ___ Talk-is mailing list Talk-is@openstreetmap.org

[OSM-talk] Can I say yes to the ODbL if I can't account for 100% of my data?

2011-06-15 Thread Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
Back in 2006 I wrote the following when it still wasn't clear what the ODbL acceptance terms would be like: On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 22:10, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason ava...@gmail.com wrote: If someone presents me with a boolean Do you allow relicensing under the ODbL I'll have to say no because

Re: [OSM-talk] Leaflet - a new open source JavaScript library for maps by CloudMade

2011-05-15 Thread Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 14:34, Vladimir Agafonkin vagafon...@cloudmade.com wrote: I'm Leaflet lead developer at CloudMade and I'll be happy to hear what you think and answer any questions about the library here. :) This library is very heavy on the GPU (as opposed to google maps), which makes

Re: [Talk-is] 'Nýr' mapper og Síðumúlinn

2011-04-26 Thread Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2011/4/24 Thorhallur Sverrisson t...@toti.is: Takk fyrir Setbergið, það var alveg ómppað fyrir utan Hamrabergið svo það var upplagt að byrja þar, enda bý ég einmitt þar.  Ég byrjaði á því að hafa 'turning-circle' á endanum á hverri götu, en það er hálfgert turningcircle í hverjum enda, en það

Re: [Talk-is] Local meetups in Iceland

2011-02-28 Thread Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2011/2/28 Matthias Meißer dig...@arcor.de: Sorry that I post in english but I can't write I your language :/ I guess some of you might notice that I created a map of local user groups http://usergroups.openstreetmap.de using a bot crawling templates out of the wikipages

Re: [Talk-is] Garðabæjargögnin á OSM sniði

2010-12-30 Thread Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2010/12/29 Daníel Gunnarsson danielgunn...@gmail.com: Ég er þeirrar skoðunar að útlínurnar sjálfar eigi einnig heima í grunninum. Sammála, það var umræða um þetta hérna og nokkur dæmi: http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/%C3%86var%20Arnfj%C3%B6r%C3%B0%20Bjarmason/diary/8651

Re: [OSM-talk] NOTICE: Scheduled Maintenance - Tuesday Morning

2010-12-13 Thread Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 15:24, Grant Slater openstreet...@firefishy.com wrote: Please copy this to local lists as appropriate. With announcements like these could you please send mail like this to local-conta...@openstreetmap.org in the future. That's what it's for. I only found out about this

Re: [Talk-is] Fasteignaskrá

2010-12-06 Thread Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2010/12/6 Svavar Kjarrval sva...@kjarrval.is: Var að hringja í Fasteignaskrá og vildi forvitnast hvort við gætum fengið GPS hnit úr staðfangaskrá fyrir allt landið en fékk það svar að það myndi kosta um 200 þúsund krónur. Þess vegna datt mér í hug hvort við gætum reynt að fá gögnin ókeypis og

Re: [Talk-is] Gögn frá Garðabæ

2010-12-03 Thread Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2010/12/3 Svavar Kjarrval sva...@kjarrval.is: Svo virðist vera að ogr2osm ráði ekki við skrána sem ég fékk. Einhverjar aðrar leiðir sem ykkur dettur í hug? Kannski spurja á aðal osm-talk listanum eða osm-imports hvort einhver veit hvernig á að breyta þessu?

Re: [Talk-is] Bing loftmyndir komnar!

2010-12-02 Thread Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2010/12/1 Daníel Gunnarsson danielgunn...@gmail.com: Hversu langt eigum við að ganga í því að tagga gögnin með source=Bing t.d. þegar gata er nú þegar til staðar rakin eftir gps ferli? Kannski er þá best að setja source=Bing á breytingarsettið, annars sést í sögunni að source=Bing var ekki

Re: [Talk-is] Bing loftmyndir komnar!

2010-11-30 Thread Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2010/11/30 Svavar Kjarrval sva...@kjarrval.is: Þetta kemur ekki fram sem möguleiki í WMS og ég finn ekki neitt nánar um þetta á openstreetmap wiki eða umræðunni. Hvernig fékkst þú þetta upp í JOSM? Ég vil byrja! *spenntur* Thetta er ekki opinberlega i JOSM vegna thessa:

Re: [OSM-talk] PBF and perl?

2010-11-22 Thread Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 16:20, Gary68 g...@gary68.de wrote: just browsed the PBF wiki page and svn and didn't find any perl support. is there any module out there to read PBF files? Yes, see Google::ProtocolBuffers on CPAN[1]. 1. Found by entering protocol buffer into search.cpan.org.

Re: [Talk-is] OSM beiðni fyrir bæjarstjórn H afnarfjarðar

2010-11-10 Thread Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2010/11/10 Svavar Kjarrval sva...@kjarrval.is: Fundurinn gekk ágætlega (hann var allavega ekki tilgangslaus). Þau eru tilbúin til að láta mig fá miðlínur gatna og stíga, hæðarlínur og staðsetningu húsnúmera og götuheiti. Þetta er allt í AutoCAD (*.dwg) en þau geta umbreytt í Shapefile og

Re: [Talk-is] OSM beiðni fyrir bæjarstjórn H afnarfjarðar

2010-11-10 Thread Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2010/11/10 Svavar Kjarrval sva...@kjarrval.is: Miðað við hugmyndina mína um rammasamning yrði óþarfi að samþykkja contributer terms. Lagalega séð væri ég höfundur afleiddu gagnanna og með því að senda þau inn væri ég að samþykkja skilmála OSM hvort sem er. Hafnarfjarðarbær er ekki að rukka

[OSM-talk] Wanted: a live-edit viewing thingalabong

2010-11-05 Thread Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
I have a logfile of lat/lon coordinates alll over the world that I want to tail, feed to a webservice and view in a browser. I thought I could use some of the existing live-edit thingy. So far I've found http://matt.dev.openstreetmap.org/owl_viewer/ (aimed at local) and

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposal for additional Mapnik power=tower icons

2010-10-17 Thread Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
On Sun, Oct 17, 2010 at 15:54, John Goodman j...@qlam.com wrote: I have yet not added an enhancement ticket -- wanted to see what people thought. I think it looks much better. Please file a ticked, and a patch against the current style would be great.

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposal: winter roads

2010-10-08 Thread Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 14:18, Gleb Smirnoff gleb...@glebius.int.ru wrote: On Fri, Oct 08, 2010 at 02:50:22PM +0100, Dave F. wrote: D    the fact the road is a winter one, is an important thing that should be D marked on map. D D    

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposal: winter roads

2010-10-08 Thread Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 19:23, Dmitri Lebedev siberia.acca...@gmail.com wrote: I want to support this guy's proposal. Then support it by starting to map it. Really, there's no reason to get formal approval for tags. Just write down on some Russian wikipage that winter roads are

Re: [OSM-talk] spot imagery for osm tracing

2010-10-05 Thread Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 12:05, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: I stumbled into a blog post regarding the french osm community was given permission to trace from Spot imagery.  Is this for France only coverage? Probably yes. I asked the same question for Iceland once, but it

Re: [OSM-talk] spot imagery for osm tracing

2010-10-05 Thread Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 14:06, Jean-Francois (Jeff) Faudi jeanfrancois.fa...@gmail.com wrote: I am talking on behalf of Spot Image. At this stage, we are only making a test over France. As soon as possible, we will try to evaluate the mutual benefits for Spot Image and OpenStreetMap in order to

Re: [OSM-talk] Countries that have NOT had any imports?

2010-10-04 Thread Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 21:41, Kai Krueger kakrue...@gmail.com wrote: I am wondering which countries have actually _not_ seen any imports so far? Aside from Ásbrú (http://osm.org/go/e...@ty5m-) and buildings around the University of Iceland (http://osm.org/go/e0UtNVRI--) Iceland has had no

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM and MapQuest [was Hurricane hits MapQuest]

2010-10-04 Thread Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 23:28, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: Hi, Ed Avis wrote: In general, I think our goal must be to make OSM a suitable replacement for Google Maps, and to do so as quickly as possible. [...] So we need to find a way to prioritize our efforts -1 on both.

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM User Testing

2010-09-30 Thread Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 16:20, SteveC st...@asklater.com wrote: On Sep 29, 2010, at 11:27 AM, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote: On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 15:34, SteveC st...@asklater.com wrote: Those people fill out a form and are invited later to use some simple online screen capturing software

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-legal-talk] In what direction should OSM go?

2010-09-29 Thread Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 10:58, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: Peter Körner wrote: Imported data is dead data - there's no one that feels responsible for it. Imports can kill community and give newcomers the feeling that there's nothing more to be done. Imports *can* help osm but

Re: [OSM-talk] how to see lat lon on map

2010-09-29 Thread Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 11:17, Peter Körner osm-li...@mazdermind.de wrote: Am 29.09.2010 13:12, schrieb Frank Fesevur: Doesn't work... at least not for this coordinate: N 52° 03.595 E 004° 16.983 This is not lat/lon but Minutes of arc. It seems, Nominatim, our search engine, is not capable

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-legal-talk] In what direction should OSM go?

2010-09-29 Thread Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 13:44, Anthony o...@inbox.org wrote: Of course, if keeping stuff in sync is practically impossible, a good import is probably going to have to be manual (if you can't keep stuff in sync, and the data is in a form which is already commonly used for non-imported data,

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-legal-talk] In what direction should OSM go?

2010-09-29 Thread Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 15:59, Anthony o...@inbox.org wrote: On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 10:38 AM, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason ava...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 13:44, Anthony o...@inbox.org wrote: Of course, if keeping stuff in sync is practically impossible, a good import is probably

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM User Testing

2010-09-29 Thread Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 15:34, SteveC st...@asklater.com wrote: Those people fill out a form and are invited later to use some simple online screen capturing software while asked to do some simple tasks and this is where you come in. What screen capturing software package is it?

Re: [OSM-talk] Measuring the OpenStreetMap Economy

2010-09-23 Thread Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 15:05, SteveC st...@asklater.com wrote: When I see announcements flying around like MapQuests $1M commitment to OSM, or CloudMades $12M VC round it begs the question of how big is the OSM economy? This is somewhat orthogonal to your question, but I think a much

Re: [OSM-talk] Can i use different aerial imagery

2010-09-18 Thread Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
On Sat, Sep 18, 2010 at 17:04, Charalampos Alexopoulos alba...@otenet.gr wrote: Greek government have publish free aerial imagery much better than those from Yahoo.Is it possible to use it as background with Potlatch? Hi. There's a lot of aerial imagery (e.g. Google's) that we'd love to use,

[Talk-is] LUKR gögnin komin staðan á því máli

2010-09-18 Thread Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
Hér er smá uppfærsla á LUKR + OpenStreetMap málinu, ég sendi þetta á OpenStreetMap póstlistann fyrir Ísland, Pálma hjá Reykjavík og á nokkra aðra: Björgvin Ragnarsson tók við diski með LUKR gögnum í dag sem við erum með leyfi til að nota í OpenStreetMap. Það var líka ritað um þetta í dagbók

Re: [OSM-talk] End of road for JOSM on OS X for ppc

2010-09-16 Thread Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 12:41, Peteris Krisjanis pec...@gmail.com wrote: 2010/9/16 Arigead captain.dea...@gmail.com: Renaud MICHEL wrote: Le mardi 14 septembre 2010 à 16:32, Arigead a écrit : Don't think that changing the OS to Ubuntu will make any difference. I've not checked but if you do

Re: [OSM-talk] Exceeded API bandwidth limit, now what?

2010-09-14 Thread Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 19:02, Michal Migurski m...@stamen.com wrote: On Sep 14, 2010, at 12:06 AM, Frederik Ramm wrote: Hi, Michal Migurski wrote: I'm downloading London, in small sections. I just exceeded my API bandwidth limit. Get

Re: [OSM-talk] End of road for JOSM on OS X for ppc

2010-09-11 Thread Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 09:39, Morten Kjeldgaard m...@bioxray.dk wrote: Yesterday I tried to upgrade JOSM on my trusty old Apple Powerbook G4. However, JOSM now needs Java 6SE, which is _not_ supported on OSX version 10.5 (Leopard). If you own a Mac with an Intel CPU, you can upgrade to OS X

Re: [OSM-talk] Girona videos for Friday now on-line

2010-09-05 Thread Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
On Sat, Sep 4, 2010 at 23:45, David Carmean d...@halibut.com wrote: Quick cuts from the venue a/v system's recordings are now available here:    http://vimeo.com/album/932606 Saturday and Sunday videos will appear gradually over the next couple of weeks, as we have time to work on them.

Re: [Talk-is] Varðandi merkingar á hjólalei ðum

2010-08-31 Thread Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2010/8/30 Arni Davidsson arni...@gmail.com: 2010/8/29 Karl Georg ka...@ekkert.org Á meðan Routing tólin Gúddera síga taggaða highway=path sem hjólaleið þá er það fín skilgreining á milli hjólreiðabrautar og hjólaleiðar í almenna stíga/götu kerfinu. Það hlýtur að vera mikilvægt að setja 

Re: [OSM-talk] Community vs. Licensing

2010-08-30 Thread Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 17:35, Russ Nelson nel...@crynwr.com wrote: However, I have spoken with Steve Coast, founder of the project, and I know that he is dead-set against public domain OSM data.  Thus, the second best thing to do, if you're going to threaten to sue infringers, is a license

Re: [OSM-talk] SotM.us videos

2010-08-28 Thread Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 21:31, David Carmean d...@halibut.com wrote: I'm beginning to edit/encode/upload the session videos from SotM.us 2010  http://vimeo.com/channels/128913 I'm tweeting each upload to #sotmus.  Takes a few hours to edit/upload each session so expect two or three per day.

Re: [OSM-talk] SotM.us videos

2010-08-28 Thread Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 19:17, pavithran pavithra...@gmail.com wrote: On 29 August 2010 00:39, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason ava...@gmail.com wrote: That's great. What was the status of the non-US SOTM videos, are those up somewhere yet? The last I heard there was some lack of volunteers to edit

Re: [OSM-talk] Hypothetical question about objects that will not be relicensed

2010-08-13 Thread Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 21:48, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com wrote: (posted here rather than on legal-talk because it's at its core a question about editing standards) Let's say I'm mapping an area and I notice an existing way that I know will not survive the relicensing process. (Part

[OSM-talk] Human readable contributor terms ready and waiting for approval

2010-08-13 Thread Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
Back in May I pointed out the need for human readable contributor terms. That resulted in some discussion and a human readable version of the terms drafted by the LWG: http://github.com/avar/openstreetmap-website/compare/master...topic/human-readable-contributor-terms However, those terms

Re: [OSM-talk] Tracing vs Import

2010-08-08 Thread Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
On Sun, Aug 8, 2010 at 08:43, 80n 80n...@gmail.com wrote: So I'm now contemplating the much simpler path of rendering the data and then tracing.  But before I do that I really want to be sure that there isn't a better way of doing this.  Does anyone have any suggestions? You could import it as

Re: [OSM-talk] Attribution of OSM on nearmap.om?

2010-08-04 Thread Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 08:53, Ben Last ben.l...@nearmap.com wrote: should typically != must :) But the key point is that we attribute OSM with the same prominence as we do any other supplier.  You'll note that there is no copyright message relating to the photomaps on the main page (for us,

Re: [OSM-talk] A plea for meaning ful changeset comments

2010-07-31 Thread Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
One thing I found unfortunate is that when we switched to API 0.6 to support changeset comments we also limited the length of values to 255 characters. So because of that you end up with really long run-on sentences like that to describe large changes making it hard to write them and to

Re: [OSM-talk] What could we do to make this licences discussion more inclusive?

2010-07-20 Thread Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 18:32, Heiko Jacobs heiko.jac...@gmx.de wrote: John Smith schrieb: On 20 July 2010 19:11, 80n 80n...@gmail.com wrote: There is no contract between OSMF and most contributors (excepting newbies who have signed up to the Contributor Terms).. Erm since OSM-F does run

Re: [OSM-talk] MapQuest Mapnik style available on GitHub

2010-07-17 Thread Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 20:45, Antony Pegg anttheli...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, As requested last week, the MapQuest Mapnik style is available on GitHub, at: http://github.com/MapQuest/MapQuest-Mapnik-Style Its under an MIT license This is great, it's really nice to see you guys being

[OSM-legal-talk] What could we do to make this licences discussion more inclusive?

2010-07-14 Thread Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
I've split this from the original thread before it derails the one it was in any further, and cc'd legal-talk. On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 10:57, Andy Allan gravityst...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 11:22 AM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: Hi, Ęvar Arnfjörš Bjarmason wrote:

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [OSM-talk] What could we do to make this licences discussion more inclusive?

2010-07-14 Thread Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 13:05, James Livingston li...@sunsetutopia.com wrote: On 14/07/2010, at 10:28 PM, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote: I'm no expert on this sort of thing, but there are probably a lot of well known pitfalls to avoid when trying to run an inclusive international project

Re: [OSM-talk] Defining critical mass...

2010-07-14 Thread Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 09:08, Andy Allan gravityst...@gmail.com wrote: But there's no intention to create an inner circle or, by corrollary, exclude other people. What could we (you/me/LWG) do to make this more inclusive? [...] See also

[OSM-talk] What could we do to make this licences discussion more inclusive?

2010-07-14 Thread Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
I've split this from the original thread before it derails the one it was in any further, and cc'd legal-talk. On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 10:57, Andy Allan gravityst...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 11:22 AM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: Hi, Ęvar Arnfjörš Bjarmason wrote:

Re: [OSM-talk] What could we do to make this licences discussion more inclusive?

2010-07-14 Thread Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 13:05, James Livingston li...@sunsetutopia.com wrote: On 14/07/2010, at 10:28 PM, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote: I'm no expert on this sort of thing, but there are probably a lot of well known pitfalls to avoid when trying to run an inclusive international project

Re: [OSM-talk] Announcing help.openstreetmap.org

2010-07-10 Thread Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 08:06, Tom Hughes t...@compton.nu wrote: I'm be pleased to be able to announce a new addition to the tools available to support the OpenStreetMap project. The new help.openstreetmap.org site is a StackOverflow style question and answer site where we can curate good

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-legal-talk] Proposed human readable contributor terms

2010-07-09 Thread Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 18:18, Mike Collinson m...@ayeltd.biz wrote: Comments in-line. At 06:14 PM 19/05/2010, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote: On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 16:42, Mike Collinson m...@ayeltd.biz wrote: Great idea, thanks for taking the initiative on this.  I had a go with your

Re: [OSM-talk] Price for OSM survey

2010-06-15 Thread Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 17:13, Roland Ramthun osm...@roland-ramthun.de wrote: To motivate you, there shall be non-cash prizes with a value of approx. 50 Euro. Do you know of any non-cash prize, ideally related to OSM, which would motivate you? Or would you rather take the cash, if possible?

Re: [OSM-talk] Potlatch and NearMap sourcing - what? why?

2010-06-10 Thread Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 01:01, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 6:58 PM, Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net wrote: trac called, it wants its job back. My guess is that you followed a link with tileurl=whathaveyou. Yep (as I just mentioned in the thread on

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap Ad

2010-05-31 Thread Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 15:13, Kate Chapman k...@maploser.com wrote: Anyway we didn't have anything readily available so we weren't able to seize the opportunity.  Does any materials like this exist somewhere for OSM?  If not do you think there is a need for it or was this a freak occurrence?

Re: [OSM-talk] scuba dive sites

2010-05-22 Thread Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
On Sat, May 22, 2010 at 11:57, Cartinus carti...@xs4all.nl wrote: On Saturday 22 May 2010 11:27:08 Nic Roets wrote: I've seen some dive sites tagged as place=locality AFAIK, place=locality indicates a place where people stay... No, locality was introduced for named geographic places where

Re: [OSM-talk] Any way to recover these Potlatch changes?

2010-05-22 Thread Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 20:17, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah, really useful: Komzpa        NE2: throw away potlatch and use josm (or vim) Potlatch doesn't include a save facility, JOSM and Merkaartor do. While that advice doesn't help you for this particular case, it might

Re: [OSM-talk] How can we spread the tribal knowledge?

2010-05-18 Thread Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 07:38, Mikel Maron mikel_ma...@yahoo.com wrote: I think the most effective way to push forward what osm.org could be is by demonstrating ideas with code. Isn't the code base now on github? Start forking, trying out ideas ... things that work are going to be more

Re: [OSM-talk] How can we spread the tribal knowledge?

2010-05-18 Thread Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 08:49, Tom Hughes t...@compton.nu wrote: On 18/05/10 09:39, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote: Here's a mockup:     http://v.nix.is/~avar/insert-stuff-here.png The contents of the white area would be determined by the aforementioned user editable  reviewed page

Re: [OSM-talk] How can we spread the tribal knowledge?

2010-05-18 Thread Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 09:16, Tom Hughes t...@compton.nu wrote: On 18/05/10 10:08, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote: It would solve our existing overflow problems, and give us space for small notices at the top like Would you like to view osm.org in $language, or head over to the wiki for Haiti

[OSM-talk] How can we spread the tribal knowledge?

2010-05-17 Thread Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 21:43, SteveC st...@asklater.com wrote: Some selective replying... Have a look at waze's twitter feed. *That* is the kind of community building we need to be doing now. Agreed, but you personally control the openstreetmap twitter account don't you? If you think waze's

Re: [OSM-talk] Flash and open source

2010-05-15 Thread Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 12:17, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: I'm also very concerned about the amount of dihydrogenmonoxide contained in almost any drink you can get nowadays. It is virtually impossible to escape the stuff, and people are reported to have died from it already[0].

Re: [OSM-talk] Garmin Maps

2010-05-15 Thread Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
Yes, such a project would be useful. I suggest you get in contact with some of the people already running something similar, e.g.: http://garmin.na1400.info/routable.php That project has selectable maps, a mapsource installer and more. Presumably it could use some programming help to perhaps

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Proposed human readable contributor terms

2010-05-14 Thread Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 21:36, Tom Hughes t...@compton.nu wrote: On 14/05/10 21:19, Ęvar Arnfjörš Bjarmason wrote: I've created a proposed version of the human readable contributor terms on the wiki: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Open_Database_License/Contributor_Terms/Human_readable

Re: [OSM-talk] Flash and open source

2010-05-14 Thread Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 17:08, Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net wrote: Occasionally the subject of Flash and free software comes up here in relation to Potlatch. I would encourage people to sign the petition at http://openplayer.net/ encouraging Adobe to make the Flash Player open

[OSM-talk] Proposed human readable contributor terms

2010-05-14 Thread Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
I've created a proposed version of the human readable contributor terms on the wiki: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Open_Database_License/Contributor_Terms/Human_readable The wording can doubtless be improved (please do so!), and maybe there's something more to cover. Let's try to keep

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposed human readable contributor terms

2010-05-14 Thread Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 20:44, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote: The wording can doubtless be improved (please do so!), and maybe there's something more to cover. Let's try to keep it short though. I think the wording is ok, but I would advise against

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposed human readable contributor terms

2010-05-14 Thread Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 21:36, Tom Hughes t...@compton.nu wrote: On 14/05/10 21:19, Ęvar Arnfjörš Bjarmason wrote: I've created a proposed version of the human readable contributor terms on the wiki: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Open_Database_License/Contributor_Terms/Human_readable

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposed human readable contributor terms

2010-05-14 Thread Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 20:19, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason ava...@gmail.com wrote: If the legal cabal doesn't disapprove of this (and hopefully, approves) I can submit patches against the website to include this in the relevant signup form. I've now changed[1] the signup form in my branch

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposed human readable contributor terms

2010-05-14 Thread Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 21:57, Tom Hughes t...@compton.nu wrote: The point is not that we don't need to explain how attribution is handled but rather that we don't need to mention that it's a change because a new user has no knowledge of previous arrangements. In other words the first

Re: [OSM-talk] Flash and open source

2010-05-14 Thread Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 22:51, Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net wrote: Aevar Arnfjorth Bjarmason wrote: Making their player open source would be nice. But what's mainly stopping players like Gnash is that their protocols are closed The SWF and RTMP formats are published. The codecs

[OSM-talk] The contributor terms are now translatable

2010-05-13 Thread Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
The text around the recently deployed contributor terms (that every new user sees) are still only in in English. But now it can be translated on Translatewiki: http://translatewiki.net/wiki/Translating:OpenStreetMap It's just a few messages, here you can see them in context:

Re: [OSM-talk] The contributor terms are now translatable

2010-05-13 Thread Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 21:57, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: Can we have a why would I not want my contributions to be public domain linked there as well? Just move the Why would I want my contributions to be public domain wiki page to a more neutral title, and have it explain

Re: [OSM-talk] New users have to sign up to the ODbL

2010-05-12 Thread Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 14:47, SteveC st...@asklater.com wrote:        https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/terms Here's what that says: http://www.osmfoundation.org/wiki/License/Contributor_Terms ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk] New users have to sign up to the ODbL

2010-05-12 Thread Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 15:21, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: On 13 May 2010 01:19, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason ava...@gmail.com wrote: Here's one: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/images/6/6c/Contributor-terms.png Is the France/Italy options translations, or different terms? They're

Re: [OSM-talk] New users have to sign up to the ODbL

2010-05-12 Thread Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 14:55, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: On 13 May 2010 00:47, SteveC st...@asklater.com wrote: will take you here:        https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/terms where essentially you are signing up to the existing CCBYSA plus the ODbL (Open Database

Re: [OSM-talk] New users have to sign up to the ODbL

2010-05-12 Thread Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 15:29, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: I would have thought it would have been a good idea to label those options in French or Italian rather than being allowed to be translated. No, all labels in the user interface should match the user's language.

Re: [OSM-talk] New users have to sign up to the ODbL

2010-05-12 Thread Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 16:22, Grant Slater openstreet...@firefishy.com wrote: On 12 May 2010 17:18, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: On 13 May 2010 01:56, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason ava...@gmail.com wrote: You can override it by adjusting the Accept-Language settings in your browser

[OSM-legal-talk] Viral can be nice

2010-04-21 Thread Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 07:31, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: We *do* want to allow releasing produced works under PD. Note that we are talking produced works here, not the data istself! Maybe you do. Personally I'm pretty fond of the feature we have now where I know that any map that

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] viral attribution and ODbL

2010-04-19 Thread Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 20:08, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org I think there is a difference, certainly morally but even legally. If you submit, under CC-BY-SA, data to an online map which clearly does not give the names of all contributors, and later claim that the map was violating your

Re: [OSM-talk] Abnormal votings on military objects in RU wiki part; PocketGIS madness

2010-04-11 Thread Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2010/4/11 Kirill Bestoujev bestou...@gmail.com: I'm a member of that team. I.'m one of those who voted for changing the rules of mapping military in Russia. The reason for that was NOT the problems to OUR project, but problems to the possibility to legally use OSM in Russia. It's nice to have

Re: [OSM-talk] Abnormal votings on military objects in RU wiki part; PocketGIS madness

2010-04-11 Thread Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 14:17, Kirill Bestoujev bestou...@gmail.com wrote: 2010/4/11 Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason ava...@gmail.com It's useful to check out some of the lengths Wikipedia (especially local language editions) go to to bend over backwards for national law. Wikipedia is not a good

Re: [OSM-talk] xybot edit area size

2010-04-09 Thread Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
Isn't there some option to osmosis that bot operators could easily use to convert their huge .osc files into something that's split by either 10km^2 or 1000 changes, whatever comes first? ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM Maps on TomTom

2010-04-08 Thread Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 11:36, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: On 8 April 2010 15:15,  grahamjones...@googlemail.com wrote: It looks like the TomTom will not be difficult to write code for. TomTom themselves recognise that they have used OpenSource code to develop it, and provide

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM Maps on TomTom

2010-04-08 Thread Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 16:25, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: On 9 April 2010 02:18, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason ava...@gmail.com wrote: I think you're underestimating the effort that goes into reverse engineering a format. Many man-years have gone into reverse engineering the Garmin

Re: [Talk-GB] Ordnance Survey

2010-04-06 Thread Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 15:28, Tom Hughes t...@compton.nu wrote: On 05/04/10 15:43, Tim François wrote: I understand that with an area mapped there is less impetus to head on over and start making tracks and surveying. But just leaving the area blank when we have this fantastic opportunity to

Re: [OSM-talk] Google WMS: is this legal?

2010-03-30 Thread Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 08:28, simone gadenz s.gad...@geologyx.it wrote: I have just come across this WMS service providing google maps background for OSM editing. Is it legal? http://www.peterdamen.com/GoogleWMS/ Is it legal to? * Use it in JOSM: Yes * Edit data based on it: Yes *

Re: [OSM-talk] Google WMS: is this legal?

2010-03-30 Thread Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 10:38, Gregory nomoregra...@googlemail.com wrote: I think the comment he has put about hate mail is really bad though, it makes OSM out to be a bad project/community even though it created JOSM. Would it really hurt him to put a notice about copyright to say check out

Re: [OSM-talk] Google WMS: is this legal?

2010-03-30 Thread Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 11:53, simone gadenz s.gad...@geologyx.it wrote: I dropped the message to the list because for me was obvious the service was violating the term of Google's license but i was not sure it was illegal. In any case I was worried of the implication for the OSM. Can this

Re: [OSM-talk] Google WMS: is this legal?

2010-03-30 Thread Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 13:04, Tobias Knerr o...@tobias-knerr.de wrote: To the same effect, he could have written just ignore the naggers with their legalities and trace away. It's only insignificantly more subtle the way he phrases it. Could have should have. Let's not forget the context

Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-br] Wikimapa what is it?

2010-03-28 Thread Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
On Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 23:45, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: by the way: there is also similar (?) projects going on in Europe. Have you heard about youmap? http://www.youmap.eu/ I wrote to them proposing OSM instead of G-maps. This map is mapping exactly the sort of

Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-br] Wikimapa what is it?

2010-03-28 Thread Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 03:33, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: I had a quick glance and couldn't figure out their site, it wasn't dragable so I lost interest pretty quickly, but can you give an example? This is the first link on their front page:

Re: [OSM-talk] Moving to Java 1.6 not so easy to swallow

2010-03-25 Thread Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
I thought I'd reply generally to a few replies in this thread. Disclaimer: I'm not a JOSM developer, although I have submitted a few patches and a lot of bugs. JOSM like most of the OpenStreetMap toolset is developed by well-meaning developers in their free time. The direction the software takes

Re: [OSM-talk] Reporting bugs (was Re: What do you wish you'd known?)

2010-03-22 Thread Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 05:11, Tirkon tirko...@yahoo.de wrote: We're a _collaborative_ project, but that only works if you collaborate! Many non native persons will be able to survive, if they have to speak english. But to describe (or read) such complicated stuff only with school-english and

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