Hi,
Frederik Ramm wrote:
we're thinking about importing post code areas in Germany. Are post
code areas being mapped in other countries already, and if so, using
what tagging schema?
Thank you for the replies.
I have one last question. I believe that Germany is not unique in
sometimes
On Tue, 06 Apr 2010 14:52:47 +0200, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org
wrote:
Hi,
Frederik Ramm wrote:
we're thinking about importing post code areas in Germany. Are post
code areas being mapped in other countries already, and if so, using
what tagging schema?
Thank you for the
On Fri, 2 Apr 2010, John Smith wrote:
I meant about street/town/city/county... since some postcodes are half
a state in size... but never smaller than a suburb...
We also have some Au postcodes which are whatever is left over, and the link
is that they are serviced from the same main sorting
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On Fri, 2 Apr 2010, John Smith wrote:
I meant about street/town/city/county... since some postcodes are half
a state in size... but never smaller than a suburb
Le 01/04/2010 22:45, Someoneelse a écrit :
Frederik Ramm wrote:
... Surely you would create a boundary relation that
*uses* the way representing the river to construct the boundary - rather
than tracing the boundary line over the river line and having two
separate ways?
Er, you
Anthony wrote:
Hi Frederik,
What are the sources for the post code areas? How often are they
updated? How are they defined (by reference to houses, by reference to
geographical features, by lat/lon, something else)? Will this data be
integrated into other OSM data, or is it basically just
Vincent Pottier wrote:
Le 02/04/2010 09:01, Lester Caine a écrit :
Looking at the post code data that has just been 'open sourced' by the UK
government I am beginning to realise part of the problem here. We are
trying to
create a generic solution when in reality there are distinct
On 2 April 2010 22:57, Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk wrote:
Actually that still needs to be agreed. Do you add the 'postcode' as a tag to
each house, or just create a relation for a post code?
Depends how many houses I suppose, the more houses there are the
efficient it would be to use a
On Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 8:57 AM, Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk wrote:
Do you add the 'postcode' as a tag to
each house, or just create a relation for a post code?
Neither. I let people look up postcodes using lookup tables, not maps.
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On Fri, Apr 02, 2010 at 03:37:39AM +1000, John Smith wrote:
From what I understand, in the UK postcodes refer to a street, at
least in populated areas...
More usually one side of a street. They can refer to a small
residential area, one or both sides of a street, or a single large
building.
Anthony wrote:
The actual areas are basically only useful for reverse geocoding
(click a spot on the map and get the postal code). But whether or not
that's even possible is highly dependent on whether or not the post
office provides such information. For some post offices, such
Another thing to note.
In the US, Zip Codes do change. In fact, due to closing post offices,
the data is more volatile than it has been in a long time.
David.
On Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 9:13 AM, Paul Houle p...@ontology2.com wrote:
Anthony wrote:
The actual areas are basically only useful for
Hi,
we're thinking about importing post code areas in Germany. Are post
code areas being mapped in other countries already, and if so, using
what tagging schema?
I was thinking of creating multipolygon boundary relations with
boundary=post_code_area or so.
Bye
Frederik
On 1 April 2010 19:49, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote:
we're thinking about importing post code areas in Germany. Are post
code areas being mapped in other countries already, and if so, using
what tagging schema?
We're using them in Australia, as for schema:
Hi,
John Smith wrote:
We're using them in Australia, as for schema:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/Catalogue/ABS_Data
Hm. I'm somewhat reluctant to tag a post code boundary an
administrative boundary. Our postal service is on its way to being a
private enterprise now.
Also these
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Frederik Ramm schrieb:
we're thinking about importing post code areas in Germany. Are post
code areas being mapped in other countries already, and if so, using
what tagging schema?
+1
I was thinking of creating multipolygon
On 1 April 2010 20:54, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote:
Hm. I'm somewhat reluctant to tag a post code boundary an administrative
boundary. Our postal service is on its way to being a private enterprise
now.
It was like that before I came along, I don't know how much this was
discussed
On 1 April 2010 21:13, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote:
On 1 April 2010 20:54, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote:
Hm. I'm somewhat reluctant to tag a post code boundary an administrative
boundary. Our postal service is on its way to being a private enterprise
now.
It was
On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 6:31 AM, colliar colliar4e...@aol.com wrote:
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Frederik Ramm schrieb:
we're thinking about importing post code areas in Germany. Are post
code areas being mapped in other countries already, and if so, using
deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2010 21:17:45
To: Frederik Rammfrede...@remote.org
Cc: OSMtalk@openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Post code areas
On 1 April 2010 21:13, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote:
On 1 April 2010 20:54, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote
On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 6:36 AM, John F. Eldredge j...@jfeldredge.com wrote:
In the USA, postal-code (Zip code) boundaries don't necessarily correspond to
other administrative boundaries, and are frequently adjusted by the Post
Office to balance out the load on different local post offices.
On 1 April 2010 23:56, Jeffrey Ollie j...@ocjtech.us wrote:
Why are US Zip codes being dragged into a discussion of German postal codes?
Because Frederik asked if someone else was mapping post codes?
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On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 3:56 PM, Jeffrey Ollie j...@ocjtech.us wrote:
Why are US Zip codes being dragged into a discussion of German postal
codes?
I think the discussion is about unifying the post_code tagging. If we could
avoid so many different tags like postal_code, addr:postcode,
zip_code,
On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 9:26 AM, Jeffrey Ollie j...@ocjtech.us wrote:
Why are US Zip codes being dragged into a discussion of German postal codes?
Did you know that the US calls their postal codes, Zip Codes?
Considering post code usage in multiple countries is a good idea
before developing a
On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 10:49 AM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote:
we're thinking about importing post code areas in Germany. Are post
code areas being mapped in other countries already, and if so, using
what tagging schema?
I was thinking of creating multipolygon boundary relations
On 2 April 2010 01:51, Brian Quinion openstreet...@brian.quinion.co.uk wrote:
boundary=street_postal_code | district_postal_code | city_postal_code
street_postal_code = 425253
or
boundary = postal_code
postal_code = 425253
postal_code_level = street | town | city | county
That doesn't
On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 5:06 PM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote:
On 2 April 2010 01:51, Brian Quinion openstreet...@brian.quinion.co.uk
wrote:
boundary=street_postal_code | district_postal_code | city_postal_code
street_postal_code = 425253
or
boundary = postal_code
On 2 April 2010 02:13, Brian Quinion openstreet...@brian.quinion.co.uk wrote:
On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 5:06 PM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote:
On 2 April 2010 01:51, Brian Quinion openstreet...@brian.quinion.co.uk
wrote:
boundary=street_postal_code | district_postal_code |
On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 5:16 PM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote:
On 2 April 2010 02:13, Brian Quinion openstreet...@brian.quinion.co.uk
wrote:
On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 5:06 PM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote:
On 2 April 2010 01:51, Brian Quinion
On 2 April 2010 02:23, Brian Quinion openstreet...@brian.quinion.co.uk wrote:
I'd assume that the preferred usage would be defined per country in
the same way that admin_level and road to highway types are.
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/Catalogue/ABS_Data
Hi,
Brian Quinion wrote:
boundary=street_postal_code | district_postal_code | city_postal_code
street_postal_code = 425253
I'm having difficulties in grasping this concept. In Germany we have
5-digit post codes, and the associated regions vary in size depending on
how densely populated an
On 2 April 2010 03:31, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote:
Hi,
Brian Quinion wrote:
boundary=street_postal_code | district_postal_code | city_postal_code
street_postal_code = 425253
I'm having difficulties in grasping this concept. In Germany we have
From what I understand, in the UK
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Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Post code areas
Hi,
Brian Quinion wrote:
boundary=street_postal_code | district_postal_code | city_postal_code
street_postal_code = 425253
I'm having difficulties in grasping this concept. In Germany we have
5-digit
On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 1:01 PM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote:
Brian Quinion wrote:
boundary=street_postal_code | district_postal_code | city_postal_code
street_postal_code = 425253
I'm having difficulties in grasping this concept. In Germany we have
5-digit post codes, and the
Brian Quinion wrote:
boundary=street_postal_code | district_postal_code | city_postal_code
street_postal_code = 425253
I'm having difficulties in grasping this concept. In Germany we have 5-digit
post codes, and the associated regions vary in size depending on how densely
populated an area
On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 9:49 AM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote:
Hi,
we're thinking about importing post code areas in Germany. Are post
code areas being mapped in other countries already, and if so, using
what tagging schema?
I was thinking of creating multipolygon boundary
Hi,
Ian Dees wrote:
Do we really want to import these kinds of administrative boundaries? If
a regular old mapper can't go out with a GPS and verify that a border
actually exists, does this sort of data belong in OSM?
A question that applies to all administrative boundaries, even most
On 2 April 2010 03:59, Ian Dees ian.d...@gmail.com wrote:
Do we really want to import these kinds of administrative boundaries? If a
regular old mapper can't go out with a GPS and verify that a border
actually exists, does this sort of data belong in OSM?
How many admin boundaries, except
John Smith wrote:
On 2 April 2010 03:59, Ian Dees ian.d...@gmail.com wrote:
Do we really want to import these kinds of administrative boundaries? If a
regular old mapper can't go out with a GPS and verify that a border
actually exists, does this sort of data belong in OSM?
How many admin
John Smith wrote:
How many admin boundaries, except country boundaries, can be actually
verified with a GPS?
Unless the boundary follows a geographical feature, such as a river,
these boundaries exist only on paper
That's a very good point and it leads on to something that I've been
Frederik Ramm wrote:
... Surely you would create a boundary relation that
*uses* the way representing the river to construct the boundary - rather
than tracing the boundary line over the river line and having two
separate ways?
Er, you might - but it doesn't seem to be universal practice!
On 1 April 2010 10:55, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote:
Wikipedia tells me that partial Canadian Postal codes are useful to
the post office[1]. In K1A 0B1 - K is the postal district, K1A is
the Forward Sortation Area and 0B1 is the Local Delivery Unit. Sounds
like internal use
On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 2:16 PM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote:
Post code areas are tremendously useful in Germany because they are
commonly used as a cheap machine readable form of location descriptor
(enter your post code to find the nearest band branch etc).
That's a good use for
Hi,
Anthony wrote:
What are the sources for the post code areas? How often are they
updated? How are they defined (by reference to houses, by reference to
geographical features, by lat/lon, something else)? Will this data be
integrated into other OSM data, or is it basically just a
On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 6:34 PM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote:
There is a post code database that is officially maintained but it is not
free.
That's...interesting. Wouldn't any accurate description of the post codes
necessarily be a derivative of that official database?
If you're
On 2 April 2010 08:34, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote:
We do have post code boundaries running together with administrative
boundaries sometimes, or running along a road. In these cases I'd expect
the post code area multipolygon to use these existing OSM features
(provided they
On 2 April 2010 08:45, Anthony o...@inbox.org wrote:
That's...interesting. Wouldn't any accurate description of the post codes
necessarily be a derivative of that official database?
Not necessarily, it could be you have postcode information for various
places and you are just generating an
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