Re: [OSM-talk] i18n-rich areas on the map

2009-07-30 Thread Ed Avis
Emilie Laffray emilie.laffray at gmail.com writes: For example the Imperial Palace in Tokyo would have name:en=Imperial Palace name:jp at Romaji=koukyo name:jp=?? However, I do believe that translitteration is worthy of appearing in name:en when none exists. I agree that when no

Re: [OSM-talk] i18n-rich areas on the map

2009-07-29 Thread Emilie Laffray
Ed Avis wrote: This is not really name:en, more like name:j...@romaji. For example the Imperial Palace in Tokyo would have name:en=Imperial Palace name:j...@romaji=koukyo name:jp=?? Similar considerations apply to countries with more than one alphabet, for example I would

Re: [OSM-talk] i18n-rich areas on the map

2009-07-29 Thread Woll Newall
Emilie, If you are going to add machine-created romaji transliterations, then I strongly suggest that you put them into name:jp_rm (as given in the Japanese mappers' specification above) and do not put them into name:en. See: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Japan_tagging#Names Using

Re: [OSM-talk] i18n-rich areas on the map

2009-07-28 Thread Mikel Maron
mikel_ma...@yahoo.com Cc: Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason ava...@gmail.com; Stefan Baebler stefan.baeb...@gmail.com; talk@openstreetmap.org; David Sasaki osopec...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 4:24:00 AM Subject: RE: [OSM-talk] i18n-rich areas on the map Not all map features need translating

Re: [OSM-talk] i18n-rich areas on the map

2009-07-28 Thread Emilie Laffray
Mikel Maron wrote: Very good point, and feature suggestion. I've started a wiki page on this project. Please contribute! http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Map_Translation_Interface Hello, one of the thing that I am working on (at least initially on design) is a translation website, as I

Re: [OSM-talk] i18n-rich areas on the map

2009-07-27 Thread Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 6:12 PM, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmasonava...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 4:37 PM, Ed Avise...@waniasset.com wrote: Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason avarab at gmail.com writes: http://cassini.toolserver.org/browse-fr.html http://cassini.toolserver.org/browse-nl.html The

Re: [OSM-talk] i18n-rich areas on the map

2009-07-27 Thread Stefan Baebler
Very nice! What i miss is getting a bigger map. If there is a thumbnail map embedded into an article people would normally click it in order to see the map in better detail (normally on a bigger map), not to navigate in a thumbnail sized slippy map. There needs to be some intuitive way to switch

Re: [OSM-talk] i18n-rich areas on the map

2009-07-25 Thread Subhodip Biswas
Hi! On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 8:22 AM, Mikel Maronmikel_ma...@yahoo.com wrote: There's a huge community of translators on the web. OpenStreetMap can work with them directly. Wikipedia, Global Voices, Meedan, and many more working on content. Ubuntu, Fedora, OpenOffice, and many many more

Re: [OSM-talk] i18n-rich areas on the map

2009-07-24 Thread Mikel Maron
From: Shaun McDonald sh...@shaunmcdonald.me.uk On 23 Jul 2009, at 09:17, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote: On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 11:34 PM, 80n80n...@gmail.com wrote: ti...@home uses this technique of a basemap with no captions and a text layer for lowzoom tiles (z1 through z6) .

Re: [OSM-talk] i18n-rich areas on the map

2009-07-24 Thread Mikel Maron
From: Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason ava...@gmail.com On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 4:58 AM, Stefan Baeblerstefan.baeb...@gmail.com wrote: Are there any further plans to translate the maps based on wikipedia data? Would that various names be better imported into main OSM db or just into the DB for

Re: [OSM-talk] i18n-rich areas on the map

2009-07-23 Thread Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 11:34 PM, 80n80n...@gmail.com wrote: ti...@home uses this technique of a basemap with no captions and a text layer  for lowzoom tiles (z1 through z6) .  Currently they are combined on the server to create a composite image using some GD library I think.  This seems to

Re: [OSM-talk] i18n-rich areas on the map

2009-07-23 Thread Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 4:58 AM, Stefan Baeblerstefan.baeb...@gmail.com wrote: Are there any further plans to translate the maps based on wikipedia data? Would that various names be better imported into main OSM db or just into the DB for rendering? Will this translation be done based only on

Re: [OSM-talk] i18n-rich areas on the map

2009-07-23 Thread Shaun McDonald
On 23 Jul 2009, at 09:17, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote: On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 11:34 PM, 80n80n...@gmail.com wrote: ti...@home uses this technique of a basemap with no captions and a text layer for lowzoom tiles (z1 through z6) . Currently they are combined on the server to create a

Re: [OSM-talk] i18n-rich areas on the map

2009-07-23 Thread Lennard
Shaun McDonald wrote: Yeah it would be neat to render a captionless layer in mapnik and then overlay text on it. Can mapnik support that? I'd have thought adding any sort of text to the map might have implications for the rendering itself. The problem is being able to do the text collision

Re: [OSM-talk] i18n-rich areas on the map

2009-07-23 Thread Cartinus
On Thursday 23 July 2009 11:09:32 Shaun McDonald wrote: On 23 Jul 2009, at 09:17, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote: Yeah it would be neat to render a captionless layer in mapnik and then overlay text on it. Can mapnik support that? I'd have thought adding any sort of text to the map might

Re: [OSM-talk] i18n-rich areas on the map

2009-07-22 Thread Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 1:25 AM, Aude (Kate)maps2w...@gmail.com wrote: I recommend using OSM data for Brussels, Belgium to test multilingual rendering.  The street signs there have street names in both French and Dutch.  Likewise, the OSM data contains name:fr and name:nl tags for street

Re: [OSM-talk] i18n-rich areas on the map

2009-07-22 Thread Ed Avis
Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason avarab at gmail.com writes: http://cassini.toolserver.org/browse-fr.html http://cassini.toolserver.org/browse-nl.html This is very cool. I note that a lot of the tiles are the same, so the disk space requirement wouldn't be too impossible. Do you plan to support 'my

Re: [OSM-talk] i18n-rich areas on the map

2009-07-22 Thread Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 4:37 PM, Ed Avise...@waniasset.com wrote: Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason avarab at gmail.com writes: http://cassini.toolserver.org/browse-fr.html http://cassini.toolserver.org/browse-nl.html The rest are now up at http://cassini.toolserver.org/tile-browse/ This is very cool.  

Re: [OSM-talk] i18n-rich areas on the map

2009-07-22 Thread Mikel Maron
From: Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason ava...@gmail.com The rest are now up at http://cassini.toolserver.org/tile-browse/ These are great!! (though I think we may just have crashed your renderd with loads of requests) I realize this is just a proof of concept, but

Re: [OSM-talk] i18n-rich areas on the map

2009-07-22 Thread Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 7:08 PM, Mikel Maronmikel_ma...@yahoo.com wrote: The rest are now up at http://cassini.toolserver.org/tile-browse/ These are great!! (though I think we may just have crashed your renderd with loads of requests) That was part of the plan:) Let's see how it does with

Re: [OSM-talk] i18n-rich areas on the map

2009-07-22 Thread 80n
On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 8:48 PM, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason ava...@gmail.comwrote: On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 7:08 PM, Mikel Maronmikel_ma...@yahoo.com wrote: The rest are now up at http://cassini.toolserver.org/tile-browse/ These are great!! (though I think we may just have crashed your

Re: [OSM-talk] i18n-rich areas on the map

2009-07-22 Thread Stefan Baebler
Looks very nice! Are there any further plans to translate the maps based on wikipedia data? Would that various names be better imported into main OSM db or just into the DB for rendering? Will this translation be done based only on language links in existing articles or also based on lists of

[OSM-talk] i18n-rich areas on the map

2009-07-21 Thread Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
I'm doing some experiments with multilingular rendering (for deploying on Wikimedia sites, see Maps-l) but I'm lacking good test data. What areas on the OSM map are especially rich in name:$code tags for different languages? Preferably down to street level. I thought Gaza might be pretty good

Re: [OSM-talk] i18n-rich areas on the map

2009-07-21 Thread Aun Johnsen (via Webmail)
On Tue, 21 Jul 2009 22:05:40 +, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason ava...@gmail.com wrote: I'm doing some experiments with multilingular rendering (for deploying on Wikimedia sites, see Maps-l) but I'm lacking good test data. What areas on the OSM map are especially rich in name:$code tags for

Re: [OSM-talk] i18n-rich areas on the map

2009-07-21 Thread Marc Coevoet
Aude (Kate) schreef: I recommend using OSM data for Brussels, Belgium to test multilingual rendering. The street signs there have street names in both French and Dutch. Likewise, the OSM data contains name:fr and name:nl tags for street names. I've been in Southern France and saw some