Re: [talk-au] camp sites

2015-05-03 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Fri, May 1, 2015 at 9:36 PM, Ian Sergeant inas66+...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, My only observation would be that in Australia toilets and no water seems a very common combination at camp grounds. You know the kind of campground I'm talking about, with either drop toilets or unpotable water.

Re: [talk-au] camp sites

2015-05-03 Thread Ian Sergeant
On 3 May 2015 at 15:27, Warin 61sundow...@gmail.com wrote: Whatever way it is cut there is a 'responsiblity', and I'd rather see the 'rules' and have the mapper make the choice from local knowledge rather than pass it to some remote person who can only judge it from a yes/no answer. I'm

Re: [talk-au] camp sites

2015-05-03 Thread David Bannon
On Sun, 2015-05-03 at 17:43 +1000, Ian Sergeant wrote: Is there supposed to be a subjective step that I'm missing? That is you look at all the amenity, and make a judgement call on the category? Do you mean when using the proposed camp_site= tag Ian ? No, no scope or need for

Re: [talk-au] camp sites

2015-05-03 Thread waldo000...@gmail.com
On Sun, May 3, 2015 at 2:50 PM, Ian Sergeant inas66+...@gmail.com wrote: The corresponding categories may be better held in a software ruleset, and the mapper just enumerate the amenities on the campsite that they are aware of. Agreed. ___ Talk-au

Re: [talk-au] camp sites

2015-05-03 Thread waldo000...@gmail.com
On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 8:35 AM, David Bannon dban...@internode.on.net wrote: It could be compared to using highway=. Yes, and highway is terrible ;-) Truth is, we like to classify things, places and people into groups, it is how we handle the complexity of the world, we do it unconsciously

Re: [talk-au] camp sites

2015-05-03 Thread waldo000...@gmail.com
Its not mapping for the renderer but is about mapping in such a way that the data is usable. Agreed that we should map in such a way that makes the data most usable. I think raw data is more usable for app designers. You seem to think composite tags with fuzzy definitions are more usable. I

Re: [talk-au] camp sites

2015-05-02 Thread waldo000...@gmail.com
I have an ideological objection to introducing key values that represent composite keys (e.g. serviced === standard + shower + power). Over time, the definition of such values becomes more and more convoluted (e.g. how do I tag a campsite that is standard + shower? Introduce another bloody

Re: [talk-au] camp sites

2015-05-02 Thread Ian Sergeant
On 3 May 2015 at 10:22, David Bannon dban...@internode.on.net wrote: No possible, in any readable way, to render something like this. Either all the icons appear on top of each other or, most are discarded. And imagine just how many columns need be added to the render database. The proposed

Re: [talk-au] camp sites

2015-05-02 Thread Warin
On 3/05/2015 2:50 PM, Ian Sergeant wrote: I can't see any reason why this responsibility should be given to the mapper. The corresponding categories may be better held in a software ruleset, and the mapper just enumerate the amenities on the campsite that they are aware of. Mappers take

Re: [talk-au] camp sites

2015-05-02 Thread Warin
On 3/05/2015 10:22 AM, David Bannon wrote: On Sun, 2015-05-03 at 08:41 +1000, waldo000...@gmail.com wrote: I have an ideological objection to introducing key values that represent composite keys (e.g. serviced === standard + shower + Yes Waldo, I do understand this point. But conversely, its

Re: [talk-au] camp sites

2015-05-02 Thread David Bannon
On Sun, 2015-05-03 at 08:41 +1000, waldo000...@gmail.com wrote: I have an ideological objection to introducing key values that represent composite keys (e.g. serviced === standard + shower + Yes Waldo, I do understand this point. But conversely, its useful to look closely at the problem from a

[talk-au] camp sites

2015-05-01 Thread David Bannon
Hi Folks, as some of you are possibly not subscribed to the tagging mailing list, thought I'd point out a proposal under way. Its about a rough classification of camp sites in an ordered way. With the intention of making them a bit easier to render or search for.

Re: [talk-au] camp sites

2015-05-01 Thread Ian Sergeant
Hi, My only observation would be that in Australia toilets and no water seems a very common combination at camp grounds. You know the kind of campground I'm talking about, with either drop toilets or unpotable water. It would probably be worthwhile making a call on the classification that

Re: [talk-au] camp sites

2015-05-01 Thread David Bannon
On Sat, 2015-05-02 at 14:36 +1000, Ian Sergeant wrote: Hi, My only observation would be that in Australia toilets and no water seems a very common combination at camp grounds. You know the kind of campground I'm talking about, with either drop toilets or unpotable water. Thanks Ian. The