[Talk-GB] HS2 route

2012-01-10 Thread Andy Robinson
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Re: [Talk-GB] HS2 route

2012-01-10 Thread Chris Fleming
route into OSM but it would be nice to be able to do so when the time is ripe. Cheers Andy [1] http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-16485263 [2] http://www.dft.gov.uk/publications/hs2-maps-20120110/ ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http

Re: [Talk-GB] GB License Change Readiness

2012-01-10 Thread Michael Collinson
Thanks, I was able to use http://osm.virtuelle-loipe.de/history browser successfully. It took me 21 minutes to analyse manually but that could be sped up by putting the declined/undecided/accepted status next to the user in the first results view, (am emailing author Langläufer). I guess it

Re: [Talk-GB] License change anonymous edits

2012-01-10 Thread David Earl
On 10/01/2012 11:44, Peter Miller wrote: Is there no way in this case to formally 'claim' the IPR for this features on the basis that we have moved them and edited all the surrounding features? Exactly the question I raised on talk on Monday. I don't think you even need to have moved

Re: [Talk-GB] License change anonymous edits

2012-01-10 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Peter Miller wrote: Is there no way in this case to formally 'claim' the IPR for this features on the basis that we have moved them and edited all the surrounding features? Yes, there is - tag it with odbl=clean. To replace a single node that forms a junction might involve unstitching 3

Re: [Talk-GB] License change anonymous edits

2012-01-10 Thread Michael Collinson
On 10/01/2012 13:43, Peter Miller wrote: On 10 January 2012 12:07, David Earl da...@frankieandshadow.com mailto:da...@frankieandshadow.com wrote: On 10/01/2012 11:44, Peter Miller wrote: Is there no way in this case to formally 'claim' the IPR for this features on the

Re: [Talk-GB] License change anonymous edits

2012-01-10 Thread Peter Miller
On 10 January 2012 13:19, Michael Collinson m...@ayeltd.biz wrote: ** On 10/01/2012 13:43, Peter Miller wrote: On 10 January 2012 12:07, David Earl da...@frankieandshadow.com wrote: On 10/01/2012 11:44, Peter Miller wrote: Is there no way in this case to formally 'claim' the IPR for

Re: [Talk-GB] License change anonymous edits

2012-01-10 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Michael Collinson wrote: +1 to Richard's suggestion odbl=clean Just a tiny little clarification - this isn't something I've dreamed up, it's a real live tag with 9,000 occurrences in the database already, and which is being used by status visualisations such as OSM Inspector. :) cheers Richard

Re: [Talk-GB] License change anonymous edits

2012-01-10 Thread David Earl
On 10/01/2012 13:46, Richard Fairhurst wrote: Michael Collinson wrote: +1 to Richard's suggestion odbl=clean Just a tiny little clarification - this isn't something I've dreamed up, it's a real live tag with 9,000 occurrences in the database already, and which is being used by status

Re: [Talk-GB] License change anonymous edits

2012-01-10 Thread Peter Miller
On 10 January 2012 13:53, David Earl da...@frankieandshadow.com wrote: On 10/01/2012 13:46, Richard Fairhurst wrote: Michael Collinson wrote: +1 to Richard's suggestion odbl=clean Just a tiny little clarification - this isn't something I've dreamed up, it's a real live tag with 9,000

Re: [Talk-GB] License change anonymous edits

2012-01-10 Thread Michael Collinson
On 10/01/2012 15:13, Peter Miller wrote: On 10 January 2012 13:53, David Earl da...@frankieandshadow.com mailto:da...@frankieandshadow.com wrote: On 10/01/2012 13:46, Richard Fairhurst wrote: Michael Collinson wrote: +1 to Richard's suggestion odbl=clean

Re: [Talk-GB] License change anonymous edits

2012-01-10 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 01/10/12 14:53, David Earl wrote: Yes, the trouble is when Frederik pointed this out and referred to the page, it says it is for cases where the suspect edit has been wiped out, not simply verified from other sources. How can you change the name from itself to itself and actually have

Re: [Talk-GB] License change anonymous edits

2012-01-10 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 01/10/12 15:37, Frederik Ramm wrote: Yes, the trouble is when Frederik pointed this out and referred to the page, it says it is for cases where the suspect edit has been wiped out, not simply verified from other sources. How can you change the name from itself to itself and actually have

Re: [Talk-GB] License change anonymous edits

2012-01-10 Thread David Earl
On 10/01/2012 14:53, Frederik Ramm wrote: Hi, On 01/10/12 15:37, Frederik Ramm wrote: Yes, the trouble is when Frederik pointed this out and referred to the page, it says it is for cases where the suspect edit has been wiped out, not simply verified from other sources. How can you change the

Re: [Talk-GB] License change anonymous edits

2012-01-10 Thread Richard Fairhurst
David Earl wrote: Why does pressing the keys make any difference whatsoever? The original contributor doesn't own the copyright in the name, only their contribution, and by marking it odbl clean I'm making an alternative contribution which asserts the source is now legitimate. I think

Re: [Talk-GB] License change anonymous edits

2012-01-10 Thread David Earl
On 10/01/2012 16:05, Richard Fairhurst wrote: David Earl wrote: Why does pressing the keys make any difference whatsoever? The original contributor doesn't own the copyright in the name, only their contribution, and by marking it odbl clean I'm making an alternative contribution which asserts

Re: [Talk-GB] GB License Change Readiness

2012-01-10 Thread Michael Collinson
Back to the original thread, good news. Three of the top UK undecided contributors have responded to my messages and kindly accepted the new terms. York, South Wales and High Wycombe looking much better now. Mike ___ Talk-GB mailing list

Re: [Talk-GB] GB License Change Readiness

2012-01-10 Thread Nick Whitelegg
I'd just like to add that one of the top contributors down as declined is actually undecided due to Ordnance Survey OpenData compatibility concerns, not sure why he's down as declined, whether that was a mistake on his part. I've emailed him to get him to decide one way or the other, but as I

Re: [Talk-GB] HS2 route

2012-01-10 Thread Peter Miller
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Re: [Talk-GB] GB License Change Readiness

2012-01-10 Thread Jason Cunningham
Can anyone provide more detailed info on the final stance of the of the top decliners? Looking at one of the websites, some are Guy, Ed Avis, Andy Street, Simon Ward, Paul Martin and ulfl. I'd given a bit of though to mapping some of the areas that are to be affected by the loss of 'Guy's data in

Re: [Talk-GB] Fwd: HS2 route

2012-01-10 Thread Chris Hill
On 10/01/12 18:19, Peter Miller wrote: Regarding OS copyright, the OS do not claim derived copyright any more for 3rd party content that is displayed on an OS map just so long as they do not present that sort of feature on their mapping. As such any copyright infringement would be with the

Re: [Talk-GB] GB License Change Readiness

2012-01-10 Thread Ed Avis
Personally, I am still working to find a way forward so that OSM can remain compatible with Creative Commons. I joined OSM to help make a free Creative Commons (or compatible) map of the world and that remains my goal. There are a couple of avenues I am working on which I'd be happy to talk

Re: [Talk-GB] GB License Change Readiness

2012-01-10 Thread Frederik Ramm
Ed, On 01/10/2012 08:22 PM, Ed Avis wrote: I joined OSM to help make a free Creative Commons (or compatible) map of the world ... I really don't want to just give up and go home unless every possibility has been exhausted. It is not too late. What you really should do is first agree to

Re: [Talk-GB] License change anonymous edits

2012-01-10 Thread Derick Rethans
On Tue, 10 Jan 2012, Ed Avis wrote: Personally I've tagged source=OS when relying only on OpenData and not additional ground survey or aerial photos; however, there is still some 'sweat of the brow' involved since matching up the streets against OS involves some judgement calls and common

[Talk-GB] Pigging potlach ...

2012-01-10 Thread Lester Caine
OK how many of you are having trouble editing for more than 10 minutes? I've lost as much work as I've done this evening with potlach just freezing :( I had the same problem at the weekend, but put it down to finger trouble, know I know it is software. -- Lester Caine - G8HFL

Re: [Talk-GB] Pigging potlach ...

2012-01-10 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Lester Caine wrote: OK how many of you are having trouble editing for more than 10 minutes? I've lost as much work as I've done this evening with potlach just freezing :( I had the same problem at the weekend, but put it down to finger trouble, know I know it is software. If you _know_

Re: [Talk-GB] Pigging potlach ...

2012-01-10 Thread Lester Caine
Richard Fairhurst wrote: OK how many of you are having trouble editing for more than 10 minutes? I've lost as much work as I've done this evening with potlach just freezing:( I had the same problem at the weekend, but put it down to finger trouble, know I know it is software. If