Re: [talk-ph] taytay,rizal roads bulk upload

2008-10-13 Per discussione maning sambale
Forgot the link: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=14.5623lon=121.1595zoom=14layers=B000FTF On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 6:40 PM, maning sambale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi, Currently uploading taytay, rizal roads from Rally de Leon ( http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Rally%20de%20Leon ) I added

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] License License License

2008-10-13 Per discussione Richard Fairhurst
Joseph Gentle wrote: The license is changing frustration is waning we can all see what the new license will be Some terms need explaining There once was a lawyer from Texas who tackled the issues that vex us CC is contrived when defining derived So let's switch before arguing wrecks us Am

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] License License License

2008-10-13 Per discussione Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 13.10.2008, at 04:42, Peter Miller wrote: No, please don't do that yet! It was too late already ;-) but I had promised a Geman version of the current draft for about half a year to it would not have been ok to let them wait any longer. If you translate anything into German then can

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] License License License

2008-10-13 Per discussione Tim Waters (chippy)
On 10/13/08, Frederik Ramm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Suppose I am a statistics wizard. I take the planet file and run it through any number of processing steps, using a lot of my proprietary knowledge and experience and algorithms I have created and whatnot, to produce interesting

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM tutorials for waypoints.ph guys

2008-10-13 Per discussione maning sambale
Thanks! Let's hope this goes well (my first time teaching OSM and JOSM). On Sun, Oct 12, 2008 at 4:29 AM, Lennard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Shaun McDonald wrote: On 11 Oct 2008, at 15:27, Alex S. wrote: Maning Sambale wrote: Can I run josm on a usb? There's no reason why not. However, you

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] License License License

2008-10-13 Per discussione Peter Miller
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:legal-talk- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard Fairhurst Sent: 13 October 2008 07:54 To: Licensing and other legal discussions. Subject: [Spam] Re: [OSM-legal-talk] License License License Joseph Gentle wrote: The

Re: [OSM-talk] lanes

2008-10-13 Per discussione Philip Homburg
In your letter dated Mon, 13 Oct 2008 11:00:39 +0100 you wrote: On Sun, Oct 12, 2008 at 9:48 AM, Gervase Markham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: LeedsTracker wrote: As Shaun says, the unresolved issue of lane handed-ness seems to be blocking this lane issue. This is anothe occasion where a generic

[OSM-talk] Alternative proposal to the noname one and more

2008-10-13 Per discussione sylvain letuffe
here it is : http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Proposed_features/internal_informations_between_mappers The idea would be to normalize inter-mappers informations that can be processed by special renderers to show what has still to be done on an object. A kind of note tag, but usable by

Re: [OSM-talk] Pedestrians on cycleways

2008-10-13 Per discussione vegard
On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 11:53:11AM +0200, sylvain letuffe wrote: This seems to reflect the situation in Germany. However, in Belgium and The Netherlands, the default is that pedestrians are allowed on cycle tracks. I think that what you need is not a cycleway anymore, because

Re: [OSM-talk] Pedestrians on cycleways

2008-10-13 Per discussione sylvain letuffe
This seems to reflect the situation in Germany. However, in Belgium and The Netherlands, the default is that pedestrians are allowed on cycle tracks. I think that what you need is not a cycleway anymore, because pedestrian are allowed. Luckyly, the higwhay=path is made for that --

Re: [OSM-talk] Pedestrians on cycleways

2008-10-13 Per discussione Shaun McDonald
On 13 Oct 2008, at 10:53, sylvain letuffe wrote: This seems to reflect the situation in Germany. However, in Belgium and The Netherlands, the default is that pedestrians are allowed on cycle tracks. I think that what you need is not a cycleway anymore, because pedestrian are

Re: [OSM-talk] Pedestrians on cycleways

2008-10-13 Per discussione Philip Homburg
In your letter dated Mon, 13 Oct 2008 11:53:11 +0200 you wrote: This seems to reflect the situation in Germany. However, in Belgium and The Netherlands, the default is that pedestrians are allowed on cycle tracks. I think that what you need is not a cycleway anymore, because pedestrian are

[OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - maxspeed=none

2008-10-13 Per discussione Lauri Kytömaa
Hi, The proposed feature for specifically acknowledgind a value of none for the tag maxspeed has been in voting but has not been voted upon 15 times and is therefore re-introduced to this list. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Proposed_features/maxspeed_none

Re: [OSM-talk] Map Features, maxspeed and maplint

2008-10-13 Per discussione Matthias Julius
Shaun McDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On 11 Oct 2008, at 08:09, Ed Loach wrote: [..] As Matthias writes: From the programmer's point of view I don't think it makes much of a difference whether the unit is stored in the key or in the value. hrm with ruby if you are expecting a number

Re: [OSM-talk] Left and Right - a proposal

2008-10-13 Per discussione Stephen Gower
On Sat, Aug 30, 2008 at 12:26:49PM +0100, Gervase Markham wrote: I propose that it be possible for features to be tagged using a generic left/right scheme, with left and right being relative to the direction of the way. So you might have a road way with a node somewhere in the middle with

Re: [OSM-talk] Map Features, maxspeed and maplint

2008-10-13 Per discussione Andy Allan
On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 11:36 AM, Shaun McDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is much simpler to parse maxspeed:mph=30 than to parse maxspeed=30mph. It's much simpler to parse maxspeed=30mph than it is to work out which one is correct when there's multiple maxspeed:[kph|mph]=30 tags, I'd say.

Re: [OSM-talk] map display www.openstreetmap.org

2008-10-13 Per discussione Matthias Julius
SteveC [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On 10 Oct 2008, at 23:37, Matthias Julius wrote: SteveC [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm all for lat/lng to be a user-enabled display option, but it's delusional to think that most people on the planet care and I personally want most people on the planet using

[OSM-talk] Campaign to pin coal mines on OS maps (fwd)

2008-10-13 Per discussione martin dodge
Hi, I wonder does OSM have a feature for old mines? cheers martin -- Forwarded message -- Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 11:22:17 +0100 From: Laurie, Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: A forum for issues related to map spatial data librarianship [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL

Re: [OSM-talk] map display www.openstreetmap.org

2008-10-13 Per discussione Matthias Julius
spaetz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 08:51:37AM +0100, Richard Fairhurst wrote: OSM is about encouraging an ecosystem, not just cramming everything onto openstreetmap.org. Last time people wrote about the OSM homepage they complained (including me) that the homepage was

Re: [OSM-talk] Campaign to pin coal mines on OS maps (fwd)

2008-10-13 Per discussione Iván Sánchez Ortega
El Monday 13 October 2008 12:48:23 martin dodge escribió: Hi, I wonder does OSM have a feature for old mines? http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Proposed_features/Mining landuse=mining surface=no resource=coal abandoned=yes Cheers, Iván ___

Re: [OSM-talk] Pedestrians on cycleways

2008-10-13 Per discussione Stanislav Brabec
Philip Homburg píše v Ne 12. 10. 2008 v 23:42 +0200: The 'OSM tags for routing/Access-Restrictions' page http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/OSM_tags_for_routing/Access-Restrictions has it that pedestrians are not allowed on cycleways unless an explicit 'foot=yes' is added. This seems

Re: [OSM-talk] Map Features, maxspeed and maplint

2008-10-13 Per discussione Ed Loach
Andy wrote: It's much simpler to parse maxspeed=30mph than it is to work out which one is correct when there's multiple maxspeed:[kph|mph]=30 tags, I'd say. I'd try to avoid having two potentially conflicting ways of tagging the same property. Oh, and changing documentation on the wiki

Re: [OSM-talk] Pedestrians on cycleways

2008-10-13 Per discussione Philip Homburg
In your letter dated Mon, 13 Oct 2008 11:41:11 +0200 you wrote: Czech Republic: There are very few dedicated cycleways. Most other cycleways are either completely mixed with pedestrian ways (e. g. in Prague) or one half of the way is pedestrian and the other is cycleway (e. g. Pardubice). Well,

Re: [OSM-talk] Pedestrians on cycleways

2008-10-13 Per discussione Andy Allan
On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 10:53 AM, sylvain letuffe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This seems to reflect the situation in Germany. However, in Belgium and The Netherlands, the default is that pedestrians are allowed on cycle tracks. I think that what you need is not a cycleway anymore, because

[OSM-talk] Forbes Article on Data Collection for map services

2008-10-13 Per discussione S Knox
There is an article in Forbes about the increasing lengths data providers are going to to collect data for mapping. Link here: http://www.forbes.com/2008/10/10/gps-navigation-autos-tech-personal-cz_jb_1010nav.html?feed=rss_news Quote 'I laugh when I hear that you can make a map by community

Re: [OSM-talk] map display www.openstreetmap.org

2008-10-13 Per discussione Frederik Ramm
Hi, Of course, sitting up you own slippy map is easier than setting up Windows, almost anybody can do that. But a bunch of people each settign up their own map that implements the feature they care most about is not a very user friendly solution, either. This is something I constantly

Re: [OSM-talk] map display www.openstreetmap.org

2008-10-13 Per discussione Matthias Julius
Ian Dees [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 10:38 AM, Matthias Julius [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Maybe there should be a 'simple' and an 'advanced' map? There is: Simple: http://openstreetmap.org/ Advanced: http://informationfreeway.org/ Well, *I* know that, but which

Re: [OSM-talk] map display www.openstreetmap.org

2008-10-13 Per discussione Matthias Julius
Frederik Ramm [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This is something I constantly preach on talk-de: We aim to be the geodatabase to end all geodatabases. Not the web mapping platform to end all web mapping platforms. Yes, I know you and others have pointed that out many times. And others have noted

Re: [OSM-talk] map display www.openstreetmap.org (Roman Neumüller)

2008-10-13 Per discussione Roman Neumüller
I agree with Matthias - if it was something to vote on I gave a (+) - you don't need to see the damn paypal link on a besides inputbox for searching useless sidebar when being a user who uses osm every day... And I would like to see lat/long too of course... Additionally I'd like a small

Re: [OSM-talk] lanes

2008-10-13 Per discussione Gervase Markham
Ed Loach wrote: At a risk of re-opening a discussion, what is the unresolved issue of handedness? Surely if you can have oneway=yes in the direction of the arrows and oneway=-1 for oneway in the opposite direction of the arrows, then left and right can also be defined relative to the

Re: [OSM-talk] Left and Right - a proposal

2008-10-13 Per discussione Gervase Markham
Stephen Gower wrote: I see from later posts that you also suggest using this scheme for cycle/bus lanes to indicate which side of the road they should be rendered. Did I? This highlighted to me a general problem with the scheme. For rendering the scheme is perfect - drawing a bus stop or

Re: [OSM-talk] More vandalism

2008-10-13 Per discussione Frederik Ramm
Nic, I have previously reported how someone with the screen name 'thebigfatgeek' has messed up a roundabout in Pretoria. I'm sorry this happens. I would be grateful if Frederik can run his revert tool again. In fact I wouldn't mind if it's in a cron job. I am approached every now and

Re: [OSM-talk] map display www.openstreetmap.org

2008-10-13 Per discussione Dave Stubbs
On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 7:29 PM, David Earl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 13/10/2008 18:24, Frederik Ramm wrote: Hi, Of course, sitting up you own slippy map is easier than setting up Windows, almost anybody can do that. But a bunch of people each settign up their own map that implements the

Re: [OSM-talk] More vandalism

2008-10-13 Per discussione Matias D'Ambrosio
On Monday 13 October 2008 18:26:52 Frederik Ramm wrote: Nic, I have previously reported how someone with the screen name 'thebigfatgeek' has messed up a roundabout in Pretoria. I'm sorry this happens. I would be grateful if Frederik can run his revert tool again. In fact I wouldn't

[OSM-talk] Spam on Diaries

2008-10-13 Per discussione Tordanik
There has been an increasing amount of link spam on user diaries recently, such as these entries: http://openstreetmap.org/user/festivalplus/diary/3689 http://openstreetmap.org/user/allfuckthem/diary/3686 http://openstreetmap.org/user/allfuckthem/diary/3688 Is anyone working on countermeasures?

Re: [OSM-talk] Spam on Diaries

2008-10-13 Per discussione Tom Hughes
Tordanik wrote: There has been an increasing amount of link spam on user diaries recently, such as these entries: http://openstreetmap.org/user/festivalplus/diary/3689 http://openstreetmap.org/user/allfuckthem/diary/3686 http://openstreetmap.org/user/allfuckthem/diary/3688 Is anyone

Re: [OSM-talk] More vandalism

2008-10-13 Per discussione Nic Roets
Hi Frederik, I'm glad the issue gets to be discussed, as it will show up more and more frequently. Clearly we need some conflict resolution rules (similar to wikipedia's 3 revert rule), oversight and dispute resolution. We need to strike a balance between giving new users the benefit of the doubt

Re: [OSM-talk] Spam on Diaries

2008-10-13 Per discussione Frederik Ramm
Hi, Tom Hughes wrote: Do you have some suggestions? It's hard to see what we can do about this sort of (presumably manual) spamming where people are prepared to go to the trouble of registering and confirming an account beyond deleting the accounts. What I would suggest: Leave user pages

Re: [OSM-talk] More vandalism

2008-10-13 Per discussione Richard Fairhurst
Nic Roets wrote: Or change potlatch so that it will not delete or modify objects last edited by other users. Then it would at least be easy to delete anything they did. Tell you what, let's completely ban all editors - that'll eliminate the risk of vandalism. Richard

Re: [OSM-talk] More vandalism

2008-10-13 Per discussione Matias D'Ambrosio
On Monday 13 October 2008 20:19:38 Nic Roets wrote: Hi Frederik, I'm glad the issue gets to be discussed, as it will show up more and more frequently. Clearly we need some conflict resolution rules (similar to wikipedia's 3 revert rule), oversight and dispute resolution. We need to strike a

Re: [OSM-talk] More vandalism

2008-10-13 Per discussione vegard
On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 11:34:34PM +0100, Richard Fairhurst wrote: Nic Roets wrote: Or change potlatch so that it will not delete or modify objects last edited by other users. Then it would at least be easy to delete anything they did. Tell you what, let's completely ban all

Re: [OSM-talk] More vandalism

2008-10-13 Per discussione Frederik Ramm
Hi, vegard wrote: Like it or not, potlach *is* the source of quite a bit of accidental vandalism. Let's just say: beginners are the source of I believe you need some sort of online buffer for potlach and a prominent submit button that everyone understand the implications on. But it

Re: [OSM-talk] More vandalism

2008-10-13 Per discussione Richard Fairhurst
vegard wrote: Like it or not, potlach *is* the source of quite a bit of accidental vandalism. It's easy to use for beginners, but they will *not* understand the implications of what they are doing. The sanbox helped a lot, but obviously not enough. I believe you need some sort of online

Re: [OSM-talk] More vandalism

2008-10-13 Per discussione Nic Roets
Like Fredik's idea. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/07/gmails-drunk-emailing-pro_n_132680.html On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 12:34 AM, Richard Fairhurst [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Tell you what, let's completely ban all editors - that'll eliminate the risk of vandalism. Ban the talk-list, so

Re: [OSM-talk] More vandalism

2008-10-13 Per discussione Richard Fairhurst
Nic Roets wrote: Ban the talk-list, so that we stop tagging the bikeshed and start contributing. Superb idea. I was actually doing some stuff on Potlatch 1.0 before this bloody thread distracted me. :( Richard ___ talk mailing list

Re: [OSM-talk] More vandalism

2008-10-13 Per discussione vegard
On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 11:57:08PM +0100, Richard Fairhurst wrote: While I'm here I might as well say something about the lack of a Save button. I'm not violently against the concept: I think unconvinced is perhaps the best way to describe my opinion. There are two big issues with it.

[OSM-talk] Yet another street number scheme

2008-10-13 Per discussione Matias D'Ambrosio
In the Argentina talk list we've been discussing a street numbering scheme appropriate for our country, and I would like input from people who know the DB better. So far this is *my* proposal, we're still discussing certain points in talk-ar, but knowing if this is workable or not means a

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] License License License

2008-10-13 Per discussione Simon Ward
On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 02:44:07PM +0100, Richard Fairhurst wrote: Tim Waters (chippy) wrote: Going back to the newly uploaded draft [1]. Maybe it's me, maybe it's the legal speak, but where does it explicitly say that if someone creates and releases to an unsuspecting public a derived work

Re: [OSM-talk] map display www.openstreetmap.org

2008-10-13 Per discussione Simon Ward
On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 07:24:01PM +0200, Frederik Ramm wrote: This is something I constantly preach on talk-de: We aim to be the geodatabase to end all geodatabases. I’d much rather it be the geodatabase to encourage more (free) geodatabases, but that could just be me. Simon, not aiming to

Re: [OSM-talk] More vandalism

2008-10-13 Per discussione Brian Quinion
Hi Frederik, I am approached every now and then by people who would like something reverted. It is quite a dilemma for me, in most cases I don't even know the place or the people involved - so who am I to decide who is right and who is wrong? I'd have said that making the request to have

Re: [OSM-talk] Yet another street number scheme

2008-10-13 Per discussione Frederik Ramm
Matias, Is there anything inherently wrong with this system? No, it is just another way to do it. If you feel it suits you better than the existing schemes, use it. I wrote it thinking about ease of editing and efficiency both in storage and for use by software, most schemes I have seen

Re: [OSM-talk] Yet another street number scheme

2008-10-13 Per discussione Matias D'Ambrosio
On Monday 13 October 2008 22:41:36 you wrote: Matias, Is there anything inherently wrong with this system? No, it is just another way to do it. If you feel it suits you better than the existing schemes, use it. Excellent! I wrote it thinking about ease of editing and efficiency both in

Re: [OSM-talk] Spam on Diaries

2008-10-13 Per discussione Roman Neumüller
Tordanik wrote: There has been an increasing amount of link spam on user diaries recently, such as these entries: http://openstreetmap.org/user/festivalplus/diary/3689 http://openstreetmap.org/user/allfuckthem/diary/3686 http://openstreetmap.org/user/allfuckthem/diary/3688 Is anyone

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] change layer

2008-10-13 Per discussione Gert Gremmen
Heel interessante layer Ik zou hem eens per week runnen. !! Denk je dat het mogelijk is om: - blauw na rood te plotten (toevoegen voorrang boven verwijderen) (Toegevoegde weg op zelfde plek al;s verwijderde weg is nu niet zichtbaar.) - de kleur per week af te

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] change layer

2008-10-13 Per discussione Rob
Op 13 oktober 2008 14:47 schreef Gert Gremmen [EMAIL PROTECTED] het volgende: Heel interessante layer…. Ik zou hem eens per week runnen. !! dat was ook de planning, een soort fading-out met data van een week maar moet eens kijken of dat haalbaar is met huidige database queries Denk je

[OSM-talk-nl] change layer

2008-10-13 Per discussione Rob
ik heb de change layer/map weer eens ge-update, dit zijn de changes tussen zaterdag en zondag rood = zit niet meer in huidige planet, kan dus verwijderd zijn blauw = nieuwe data note: ik render alleen veranderde lijn data, dus punten en area's zie je niet terug updates gaan nu nog met de hand,

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] Serieuze bezwaren tegen de huidige Potlatch update

2008-10-13 Per discussione Stefan de Konink
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Henk Hoff schreef: Ik hoop dat je een beetje bekomen bent van de schrik en frustratie. Ja, naar aanleiding van de post op de dev mailinglijst was er gelukkig iemand die alle problemen had verzameld, waarna ik een scriptje had gemaakt die alla

Re: [talk-au] diary entry with interesting visualization of users contributions

2008-10-13 Per discussione Darrin Smith
On Mon, 13 Oct 2008 22:08:11 +1100 Matt White [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Darrin Smith wrote: On Mon, 13 Oct 2008 21:22:53 +1100 Peter Ross [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://openstreetmap.org/user/BlueMM/diary/3679 The site he got that from www.itworld.com as referenced in the

Re: [talk-au] diary entry with interesting visualization of users contributions

2008-10-13 Per discussione geharper
Thanks for sharing these links! I've added a RSS feed of edits for a couple of particular locations I am concentrating on, so it is nice to see if any new contributors pop up, and to see what they have done, and to watch the tag use. ___ Talk-au

Re: [Talk-de] weitere maxspeed-Values brauchen wir!

2008-10-13 Per discussione Michael Kugelmann
Stefan Hirschmann schrieb: Warum meinst Du alles was sich bewährt hat über den Haufen zu werfen? Weil es scheinbar die Gerichte anders sehen? Z.B. in Östereich: OGH-Entscheidung 23. März 2007, Geschäftszahl 2Ob262/05a Zitat: eine Geschwindigkeit von 5 km/h (Schrittgeschwindigkeit)

Re: [Talk-de] Bounding Box Parameter für Bundeslä nder?

2008-10-13 Per discussione Marcus Wolschon
Am 12.10.08 schrieb Michael Schmitt [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Ich habe gerade festgestellt, daß unter http://svn.openstreetmap.org/applications/utils/osm-extract/polygons/germany/ bereits POLY Files hinterlegt sind. Interessant. Hat jemand eine Doku, wie die zu parsen sind? Da scheinen jeweile

Re: [Talk-de] Bounding Box Parameter für Bundeslän der?

2008-10-13 Per discussione Frederik Ramm
Hallo, On 13.10.2008, at 10:05, Marcus Wolschon wrote: Hat jemand eine Doku, wie die zu parsen sind? Ist auf der osmosis-Wikiseite irgendwo verlinkt (dieses Format hatte ich in Anlehnung an die dcw-Webseite fuer ein von mir geschriebenes Polygon-Extrakt-Skript eingefuehrt, und Osmosis hat

Re: [Talk-de] Parkplatz - je nach Uhrzeit

2008-10-13 Per discussione Thorsten Feles
Rolf Gehring schrieb: Hallo Wundert mich eigentlich ein bisschen, dass bisher niemand einen Tag für Parkhaus vorgeschlagen hat. Es gibt amenity = parking + parking = multi-storey parking = multi-storey ist für mich und meine in Deutschland offenbar ungenügenden Englisch-Kenntnisse

Re: [Talk-de] Parkplatz - je nach Uhrzeit

2008-10-13 Per discussione Claudius Henrichs
In der Zwischenzeit bin ich zur Erkenntnis gekommen, dass es laut StVO überhaupt kein Parkhaus gibt. Und was es nicht gibt, braucht auch nicht getagt zu werden. In Abwandlung eines häufig genutzten Ausspruches: Wir taggen nicht für die StVO und erst Recht nicht auf Deutschland und dessen

Re: [Talk-de] Google-PM: Karteneditieren light

2008-10-13 Per discussione Frederik Ramm
Hallo, On 13.10.2008, at 10:40, Tim 'avatar' Bartel wrote: eben reingekommen, Pressemitteilung von Google: Das gibts doch schon seit 1-2 Jahren? Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail [EMAIL PROTECTED] ## N49°00'09 E008°23'33 ___ Talk-de

Re: [Talk-de] potlatch 0.10d buggy? (Trackdarste llung fehlerhaft und unvollständig)

2008-10-13 Per discussione Johann H. Addicks
seit der Version 0.10d habe ich lustige Darstellungsfehler von GPS- Aufzeichnungen, Beispiel hier: Im Potlach ist leider (derzeit) nicht nur die Trackdarstellung defekt, es wird auch nur ein Bruchteil(!) der verfügbaren Tracks geladen! Schau mal in Beelitz-Heilstätten südlich des

Re: [Talk-de] bridge=pontoon

2008-10-13 Per discussione Tobias Wendorff
Sebastian Waschik schrieb: ich hätte da eher geschrieben: bridge=yes bridge:type=pontoon Andernfalls müsste ja pontoon implizit auch noch yes bedeuten und das müsste jeder wissen, der die Daten verwenden möchte. Das haben wir aber leider überall :-(

Re: [Talk-de] Google-PM: Karteneditieren light

2008-10-13 Per discussione Sven Geggus
Tobias Wendorff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dann frage ich mich, wieso es noch keine Google-gute OpenSource Suchmaschine gibt. OpenSource funktioniert prinzipbedingt nicht bei Hardware und Google hat eine Menge davon. Was OpenSource selbst betrifft. Dir ist schon klar, dass die Google

Re: [Talk-de] Google-PM: Karteneditieren light

2008-10-13 Per discussione Tobias Wendorff
Markus schrieb: *OSM die freie Weltkarte* 1. OSM ist/sind 60.000 Leute 2. OSM ist ein Datenbank Nur am Frontend können die Daten und ihr Wert erkannt werden. Ja, das gilt für Normaluser. ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Talk-de] Google-PM: Karteneditieren light

2008-10-13 Per discussione Tobias Wendorff
Sven Geggus schrieb: OpenSource funktioniert prinzipbedingt nicht bei Hardware und Google hat eine Menge davon. Was OpenSource selbst betrifft. Dir ist schon klar, dass die Google Infrastruktur unter Linux läuft? Natürlich ist mir das klar, aber ich habe angemerkt, dass OSM-Anwendungen nicht

Re: [Talk-de] CRANE SPORTS GPS Sportcomputer (Aldi)

2008-10-13 Per discussione Tobias Wendorff
Michael Kugelmann schrieb: Kennt zufällig jemand Details? Auf der Aldi-Süd Seite steht nicht viel mehr drauf... AFAIK ist Crane Sports eine Eigenmarke von ALDI-Süd. Es wird sich sicherlich um ein (dann nicht mehr) OEM-Gerät handeln. Man müsste also mal die China-Importseiten (Alibaba Co.)

Re: [Talk-de] Kanal im Tunnel

2008-10-13 Per discussione Markus
Hallo Detlef, wenn ein Bach in einem Tunnel unter einer Strasse fliesst, ist eigentlich alles klar: highway=irgendwas und waterway=irgendwas + tunnel=yes Wenn der Renderer das noch nicht kennt, dann müsste man ihm das halt beibringen. Aber ich weiss nicht wie das geht. Und ich kenne auch keine

Re: [Talk-de] Google-PM: Karteneditieren light

2008-10-13 Per discussione Markus
Hi Tobias, habe angemerkt, dass OSM-Anwendungen nicht OpenSource sein müssen. Aber wir könnten uns doch - genauso wie bei den Daten - darum bemühen?! Denn nur als bundle macht das Ganze wirklich Sinn. Gruss, Markus ___ Talk-de mailing list

Re: [Talk-de] Kanal im Tunnel

2008-10-13 Per discussione Norbert Kück
Detlef Reichl schrieb: ich habe hier einen kleinen Kanal - etwa 2 Meter breit - der für rund acht Meter durch eine Röhre geführt wird, worüber oben ein Weg geführt ist. Unser Mühlbach floss früher mitten durchs Dorf bis zur Mühle. Jetzt ist er 300 m in einem Tunnel unter der Hauptstrasse.

Re: [Talk-de] Entwurf für die neue Lizenz

2008-10-13 Per discussione Tobias Wendorff
Hallo, Frederik Ramm schrieb: http://foundation.openstreetmap.org/the-openstreetmap-license/ ich sehe, dass ein Rechtsanwalt hinzugezogen wurde. Wird dieser aus dem Topf der Foundation finanziert? Ich lese die Richtlinie nachher mal durch, aber ich denke, ein Problem bleibt ungelöst: Die

Re: [Talk-de] Entwurf für die neue Lizenz

2008-10-13 Per discussione Frederik Ramm
Hallo, On 13.10.2008, at 14:46, Tobias Wendorff wrote: Frederik Ramm schrieb: http://foundation.openstreetmap.org/the-openstreetmap-license/ ich sehe, dass ein Rechtsanwalt hinzugezogen wurde. Wird dieser aus dem Topf der Foundation finanziert? Nein, der macht(e) das fuer umme. Leider hat

Re: [Talk-de] Kanal im Tunnel

2008-10-13 Per discussione Detlef Reichl
Am Montag, den 13.10.2008, 14:29 +0200 schrieb Markus: Hallo Detlef, wenn ein Bach in einem Tunnel unter einer Strasse fliesst, ist eigentlich alles klar: highway=irgendwas und waterway=irgendwas + tunnel=yes Wenn der Renderer das noch nicht kennt, dann müsste man ihm das halt

Re: [Talk-de] Google-PM: Karteneditieren light

2008-10-13 Per discussione Markus
Hallo Tobias, Geoprogrammierung ist nicht gerade simpel. Ja - und da ist Google im Vorteil - obwohl: OpenSource hat mindestens so viel Potential! Wir haben schon viele Tools für inside OSM, aber auch outside ist gut abgedeckt Sagen wir mal: viele draft-Tools? Für den breiten (verwöhnten)

Re: [Talk-de] Entwurf für die neue Lizenz

2008-10-13 Per discussione Sven Anders
Am Montag, 13. Oktober 2008 14:55 schrieb Frederik Ramm: Die Daten an sich werden wie gesagt von einer speziellen Lizenz   geregelt, die ODbL ist dafuer nicht gedacht. Die Daten an sich sollen   nach weitgehender Uebereinkunft aller Beteiligten unter eine BSD- artige Lizenz gestellt werden,

Re: [Talk-de] Entwurf für die neue Lizenz

2008-10-13 Per discussione Tobias Wendorff
Hallo Frederik, Frederik Ramm schrieb: Nein, der macht(e) das fuer umme. Leider hat er jetzt einen Job, der ihn viel Zeit kostet, daher hat die Foundation eine andere Kanzlei gefunden, die ebenfalls bereit ist, pro bono zu arbeiten. Oh cool, ich wusste nicht, dass Rechtsanwälte kostenlose

Re: [Talk-de] Entwurf für die neue Lizenz

2008-10-13 Per discussione Frederik Ramm
Hallo, On 13.10.2008, at 14:46, Tobias Wendorff wrote: Ich lese die Richtlinie nachher mal durch Es gibt noch eine Sache dazu zu sagen: Von Peter Miller ist der m.E. sehr gute Ansatz, dass wir doch erst mal aufschreiben sollen, was wir wollen/nicht wollen/von der Lizenz erwarten, und *dann*

Re: [Talk-de] Google-PM: Karteneditieren light

2008-10-13 Per discussione Tobias Wendorff
Hallo Markus, Markus schrieb: Ja - und da ist Google im Vorteil - obwohl: OpenSource hat mindestens so viel Potential! Man muss bedenken, dass in diesem Geschäftsbereich auch viel Kapital liegt. Daher muss man sich als Programmierer überlegen, das Tool OpenSource zu setzen und vielleicht nur

Re: [Talk-de] Entwurf für die neue Lizenz

2008-10-13 Per discussione Tobias Wendorff
Sven Anders schrieb: Wir hatten das Thema mal bei unseren Hamburger Stammtisch. Gebraut mit Elb-Wasser :-) ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de

[Talk-de] Schmunzeln über Google

2008-10-13 Per discussione Tobias Wendorff
http://maps.google.de/maps?f=qhl=degeocode=q=simpelveldie=UTF8ll=50.822036,5.9448spn=0.002857,0.008261t=hz=18 Wer hat wohl mehr gesoffen? a) der Fahrer von TeleAtlas b) der Flieger von DigitalGlobe ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Talk-de] Google-PM: Karteneditieren light

2008-10-13 Per discussione Markus
Hallo Tobias, Man muss bedenken, dass in diesem Geschäftsbereich auch viel Kapital liegt. Ja - darum geht es doch: freie - vom Kapital unabhängige - Daten und Anwendungen! Daher muss man sich als Programmierer überlegen, das Tool OpenSource zu setzen und vielleicht nur über den Support zu

Re: [Talk-de] Google-PM: Karteneditieren light

2008-10-13 Per discussione Sven Geggus
Tobias Wendorff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Eine darstellungsfehlerfreie Karte wird man so schnell nicht bekommen. Mapnik hat (leider) viele Bugs, die man anscheinend nicht so einfach behaben kann. Den FUD, den Du hier dauernd über Mapnik schreibst kann ich so langsam echt nicht mehr hören!

Re: [Talk-de] Google-PM: Karteneditieren light

2008-10-13 Per discussione Tobias Wendorff
Sven Geggus schrieb: Den FUD, den Du hier dauernd über Mapnik schreibst kann ich so langsam echt nicht mehr hören! Niemand sagt Dir, dass Du meine Mails vorgelesen bekommen musst. Programmiere etwas besseres ud/oder repariere die vermeintlichen Bugs. Kannst Du Deine Aussagen eigentlich

Re: [Talk-de] Entwurf für die neue Lizenz

2008-10-13 Per discussione Frederik Ramm
Hi, Oh cool, ich wusste nicht, dass Rechtsanwälte kostenlose Beratung gegeben dürfen. Oder ist dies nur in Deutschland nicht möglich? Duerfte eine deutsche Eigenart sein, und selbst in Deutschland beraten Kanzleien m.E. durchaus Vereine usw. gegen Spendenquittung. Die Daten an sich sollen

Re: [Talk-de] Google-PM: Karteneditieren light

2008-10-13 Per discussione Markus
Hallo Sven, Mapnik Hast Du zu den Machern von Mapnik einen Zugang? Kennst Du deutschsprachige (oder verstehende) Mapnik-Programmierer? Wäre super! Markus ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Talk-de] Google-PM: Karteneditieren light

2008-10-13 Per discussione Tobias Wendorff
Hallo Markus, Markus schrieb: Man muss bedenken, dass in diesem Geschäftsbereich auch viel Kapital liegt. Ja - darum geht es doch: freie - vom Kapital unabhängige - Daten und Anwendungen! Du vergisst eine entscheidende Sache: Es gibt Leute, die von solchen Programmen leben.

Re: [Talk-de] Google-PM: Karteneditieren light

2008-10-13 Per discussione Andreas Barth
* Sven Geggus ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [081013 15:35]: Programmiere etwas besseres ud/oder repariere die vermeintlichen Bugs. Kannst Du Deine Aussagen eigentlich irgendwie belegen? Z.B. in der Art ich haben den Bug vor über einem Jahr bei trac.mapnik.org eingetragen und da tut sich einfach nix...

Re: [Talk-de] Workshop - Zielsetzung

2008-10-13 Per discussione Markus
Liebe OSM-Tagungs- und Workshop-Teilnehmer, Frederik hatte nach den Zielen gefragt: prima, dass Sven das in die Hand nimmt mit der Workshop-Planung. Ich wollte eben auf die Wikiseite einen Passus ueber Zielsetzung einfuegen, aber dann dachte ich, das waere doch etwas vermessen von mir,

Re: [Talk-de] weitere maxspeed-Values brauchen wir!

2008-10-13 Per discussione Mario Salvini
Garry schrieb: 7km/h ist nicht der einzige richtige Wert, aber ein sinnvoller Wert um die Schrittgeschwindigkeit zu symbolisieren und das ganze hickhack mit unterschiedlichen Schreibweisen, Rechtschreibfehlern etc. bei der Auswertung zu ersparen. Um mal beim Wort Schrittgeschwindigkeit zu

Re: [Talk-de] Google-PM: Karteneditieren light

2008-10-13 Per discussione Tim 'avatar' Bartel
Hi, Am 13. Oktober 2008 11:38 schrieb Sven Geggus [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Nach dem Einloggen in ihren Google Account und der Suche nach einer Adresse oder einer Firma haben Nutzer nun die Möglichkeit, den Markierungspfeil so umzustellen, dass er einen bestimmten Ort genauer kennzeichnet. Im Moment

[Talk-de] Google-PM: Karteneditieren light

2008-10-13 Per discussione Tim 'avatar' Bartel
Hi, eben reingekommen, Pressemitteilung von Google: ==[schnipp]== im Rahmen unserer stetigen Bemühungen, unsere Nutzer mit den präzisesten und detailliertesten Landkarten zu versorgen, die es im Internet gibt, können die Anwender ab heute Informationen in Google Maps direkt bearbeiten oder

Re: [Talk-de] Kanal im Tunnel

2008-10-13 Per discussione Markus
Hallo Detlef, ich habe hier einen kleinen Kanal - etwa 2 Meter breit - der für rund acht Meter durch eine Röhre geführt wird, worüber oben ein Weg geführt ist. Unser Mühlbach floss früher mitten durchs Dorf bis zur Mühle. Jetzt ist er 300 m in einem Tunnel unter der Hauptstrasse. Tunnel

Re: [Talk-de] Workshop - Organisation/Mitbringparty

2008-10-13 Per discussione Michael Buege
Zitat Markus: Hi Frederik, :-) Jede/r bringt etwas Leckeres fürs gemeinsame OpenSource-Buffet mit: Alles schoen warm und etwas vermatscht von der langen Fahrt ;-) Ich schreib ja auch nicht, dass Du eine Pizza aus Karlsruhe mitbringen sollst... ;-) Ich plaediere fuer

Re: [Talk-de] Google-PM: Karteneditieren light

2008-10-13 Per discussione Tobias Wendorff
Sven Geggus schrieb: Das ist ja langweilig, ich hatte jetzt gedacht, dass man kaputte Straßen reparieren kann. Gedachte habe ich es auch, aber nicht gehofft/gewünscht. ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Talk-de] Kanal im Tunnel

2008-10-13 Per discussione Claudius Henrichs
Welches Tagging wird in deinem Fall als Lücke (=nicht) gerendert? Bei mir klappt waterway=canal tunnel=yes hervorragend in Mapnik (gestrichelt als Tunnel) und leidlich (Kanal fortgezeichnet) in Osmarender: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=36.32755lon=59.57371zoom=17layers=B000FTF Sven

Re: [Talk-de] Voting zu maxspeed=none

2008-10-13 Per discussione Claudius Henrichs
Zum Thema passend tut bitte auch eure Meinung hier per Stimmabgabe kund: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Proposed_features/maxspeed_none ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de

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