hospital is no
longer a hospital, so that no one will mistakenly go there in a medical
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to be named.
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Using the URL seems reasonable, since the URL is unique and the page title
likely isn't unique.
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confused TomTom users in that area :-)
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It seems like it would make more sense to have a tag called peak, with
attributes natural or manmade, rather than the other way around. After
all, every object in the world is either manmade or natural.
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I think he means, Wouldn't it be better to tag the entire island with a name,
rather than tagging each segment separately?
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starts to move,
the GPS can locate the car within 3 or 4 meters.
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to the
side or back of properties. It is distinguished from a driveway in that a
driveway is on private land and generally gives access to just one property; an
alley is on public property and generally gives access to multiple properties.
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Bitmapped images don't scale well. When you zoom in, the pixels get larger,
rather than more pixels being added. For purposes of map-making, it seems like
a vector-based system would work better.
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Unless you include a definition of how close the trees have to be to the
roadway, almost every roadway in areas with enough rainfall to support trees
would be classified as tree-lined.
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I take it you are distinguishing between a lighthouse that stands on land, and
one that is set directly in the water (not on an island)? The latter would
still be a man made tower, so it would seem that the manmade=tower would still
be applicable.
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is not the
case. Should the ways simply cross, relying on the layer tag to mark which one
is above the other? The existing highway data, probably derived from a TIGER
import, does not indicate bridges as opposed to regular roadways.
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So, ground level is level 0? I had wondered about that, as the scanty
documentation that I have seen didn't make that point clear.
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country to another...)
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I would class that as a causeway, rather than an embankment. I think wet
area in the Wikipedia definition would refer to boggy ground, or an
intermittently-flooded low-lying area, rather than to lake-bottom or sea-bottom
that is underwater all of the time.
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If you look at the photos on the web page, the feature in question is
definitely man made, not natural. It is a raised walkway between two islands,
made by piling up rocks.
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ocean, this isn't a matter that I am ever likely to deal with myself.
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Yes, US English would also call that a ford.
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The same meaning of greenways (paths on public land, allowed to pedestrians and
bicycles but motorized vehicles), is in use here in Nashville, TN, USA. They
are a part of the public park system, and, so far, are mostly along stream or
river banks.
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As used by the city park system here in Nashville, Tennessee, USA, a greenway
is a paved footpath/cycle path located in a park, and generally adjoining a
stream or river.
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I have been subscribed to the OSM-talk mailing list for about two months now;
this current discussion is the first that I have heard of the license-change
issue. So, if there has been ongoing discussion of the issue in the last
couple of months, it hasn't been on the general list.
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It is my (possibly mistaken) impression that, once the new contract goes into
effect, any old data that had been entered, previous to the new contract, by
someone who does not agree to the new contract, will be removed from the
database.
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America/Chicago 2009
2009/12/6 80n 80n...@gmail.com:
If a way/relation needs to be deleted because its long history
includes a mapper who opted out, it can be easily recreated if you
have the nodes.
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remain in the public
domain. If all OSM data derived from TIGER data must be removed or rendered
read-only, this won't leave much editable data in the USA.
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The resulting circle would only be the equator if it lay on the plane of the
Earth's rotation, but I agree that the software probably wouldn't be happy
about having the starting and ending points coincide.
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If you are going to tag every culvert in the world, you are talking about
adding millions of additional entries to the database. This seems rather
unnecessary.
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All of Spain is further north than Tennessee, the US state where I live.
Tennessee is on about the same latitude as Algeria.
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Water sources in the desert are not just Points of Interest, they are necessary
for survival should your vehicle break down in some manner.
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There also does not appear to be any provision on the OSM web site for changing
to a new password, which is something that one should do occasionally. At
least, if there is a way to do so, I haven't found it.
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Ah. I had not realized that my name, at the top of the page, was a link, and
so hadn't found that page.
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the shoulder is
paved, gravel, or just bare earth, the amount of broken glass and other
hazardous debris, etc. I don't think that simply categorizing the road as
primary/secondary/tertiary is enough.
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for US military use.
Remember, the GPS satellite constellation was put up by the US military.
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In the USA, a Notary Public merely attests that the person who signed a
document showed official identification to prove their identity matched the
name on the document.
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I was responding to the definition of an office as somewhere a licensed
professional works.
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On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 17:07, John F. Eldredge j...@jfeldredge.com wrote:
You may be seeing the earthquake damage, since it damaged or collapsed
thousands of buildings, and may well have
If only man-made artifacts are displaced, but not the terrain, that must be a
mapping error. An actual earthquake land-shift would have displaced the
terrain, and moved buildings and other artifacts along with the land.
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high-res but poorly
georeferences aerial photos.
Looking at a sat-image you don´t know if not all of that photo is 50
or 200 meters off unless you
are on the ground to compare.
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overwrite existing streets.
* run the validator, merge street segments
* join streets that end near each other.
* don't upload points that are not connected.
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of both highways
for routing purposes, as well as being marked by the street name as well.
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Frequently you can't get a position fix at all, if the building has much metal
in its structure. I can't get a position fix from inside my house unless I am
near a south-facing window, probably due to a metallic-foil vapor barrier in
the attic.
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Even within your own time zone, IRC only allows you to communicate with people
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Nathan Edgars II wrote:
Lar Kiesel wrote:
I was the culprit who did the user lkrevert revert to user NE2 change set of
Columbia, SC, US.
Thank you for finally coming forward and explaining.
The reasons for the revert was because NE2 had changed many segments of SC
state
road
and a state-level road, etc.
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The dine-in vs. takeaway distinction can be a bit blurred. I have seen some
small ice-cream establishments that seem to be about half dine-in and half
carry-out.
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-premises, the restaurant
will lose its license to sell alcohol. This is intended to make it harder for
adults to buy beer or liquor on behalf of under-age drinkers.
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So mtb:scale=5 would be a vertical cliff?
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boundary so that a
particular street or neighborhood will be in a more-prestigious Zip code.
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As I mentioned in my real-life case of the Rio Grande changing channels, a
larger shift in a river's course can leave dry ground, that had formerly been
on one side of the river, now on the other side of the river.
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Having the river move doesn't necessarily move an boundary that had run along
the river. It depends upon how the boundary is defined.
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The tag is for know if a shop has trolleys. All the details are in the wiki.
Thanks in advance for comments.
Why would shops have light-rail trains?
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as shopping carts.
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Perhaps amenity=luggage_trolley for airport or train station use? In American
usage, trolley is a synonym for trolley car, as in street railways. So,
you are likely to see American mappers using amenity=trolley for streetcar
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I agree that cart=yes would probably be the best solution. That way, you avoid
the confusion between different regional dialects, and the context would let
you know whether a shopping cart, luggage cart, or whatever was meant.
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Well, we could always use handcart, rather than cart, so as to specify that we
don't mean the horse-drawn variety.
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English has a proverbial expression, going to hell in a handbasket, meaning
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In English usage, a dwelling is a residence. So, a farmhouse would be an
isolated dwelling; a building not used as a residence, such as a restaurant or
train station, would be an isolated building, but not an isolated dwelling.
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a dwelling.
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names off another map.
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it, and see the values
of more tags. A restaurant POI, for example, could tell you the hours it is
open and what sort of food it serves, assuming these tags had been set.
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Also, the name Van Hoevenburg Trail doesn't necessarily mean that it passes
through the Van Hoevenburg Property. That might be the name of the current
land-owner, the name of a former land-owner, or simply the name of some notable
person whom the trail was named after.
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It is not unusual for roads to have signage for both the local name and also an
official route name (sometimes multiple route names).
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, as well as some
(in the same nature preserve) that are so narrow and steep that they are
passable only on foot.
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as verifiable on the
ground?
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2010/5/31 John F. Eldredge j...@jfeldredge.com:
This brings up another question. On the tagging list, there is currently a
discussion of whether or not to tag areas that have frequent traffic jams
to be closed for repairs,
or is one-way in the wrong direction, that doesn't give you an excuse to drive
through the road anyway.
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Good suggestion.
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I agree that foot_unsafe
names and some didn't.
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Given that the spill is constantly expanding, mapping it would become a
full-time job if you wanted the information to be anywhere close to up-to-date.
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This sounds like a good compromise to me, as most people will have a general
agreement of where a given neighborhood is located, but differ about where the
boundaries are located.
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areas that have
retained some degree of local government have formal boundaries, but there are
disagreements about where one unincorporated area shades into another.
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real-estate
development. Potlatch will let me reposition or lengthen the street, but won't
let me remove the street. How can I remove this short and no-longer-existing
street using Potlatch?
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mapper. I have
also seen cases where the official map of an area shows a roadway, or even
minor bridge, that had been planned but never was built.
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to be on the Gutenberg Australia web
site, without it being legal for users in the USA to download those works.
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I think the bell is more likely a street light in a bell-shaped reflector.
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From: Milo van der Linden m
map has over a
paper map.
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True, but paper maps are usually not printed at a scale where including street
numbers are practical.
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. What can I do to
force the ways to be joined?
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However, you can't be certain, without personally checking the street in
question, whether the street really has no speed limit signs, or whether the
person who added the street to the map simply failed to add the speed limit tag.
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So, what happens in your region if the road planners decide to alter the
position of part of a road, such as making a curve more gentle? Are the
municipal borders then shifted so that they still match the roadway, or so they
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by second :P Atleast we will have a live text stream ;)
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don't usually tag name, just operator, I just mentioned that to
point out the name is easy to locate if people did want to tag it.
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of English word to start with, but we are probably
stuck with it.
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Is there a summary available, in layman's language, of the differences between
the old license and the proposed new license? I am still a bit unclear on the
net effects, other than a sizable amount of the data being moved from the OSM
database to a different database.
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If you know the latitude and longitude of where you would like to create a POI
in Potlatch, but can't locate the exact position in the Yahoo aerial view (due
to tree cover), how can you create a POI at that known latitude and longitude?
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