Re: [Tex-music] nted to tex (via midi or lilypond)

2017-02-23 Thread Bob Tennent 
 >|Sorry, I forgot to include the resulting notes sheet.

Thanks Dieter. For everyone else, I think that message was
sent to the list by mistake.

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Re: [Tex-music] nted to tex (via midi or lilypond)

2017-02-23 Thread Dieter 

Sorry, I forgot to include the resulting notes sheet.
--Dieter

Am 23.02.2017 um 09:26 schrieb Dieter:


Hi Bob and Hans Friedrich,

as  I pointed out in my previous mail, I made excellent experience 
with scanning notes, converting them to MusicXML, and then using 
XML2PMX to go to *.pmx.


So why do you not send me a PDF and I do the rest.

--Dieter
Am 22.02.2017 um 23:24 schrieb Bob Tennent:

  >|The project is producing size a5 booklets (~4 ... 12
  >|pages) with songs etc. for a service. Means mix of
  >|text and music.The first time I used noteedit which
  >|produces musixtex-code an combined this code with my
  >|texts.But noteedit does not run anymore on my computer
  >|:-(Than I found nted which is also nice to input music.
  >|But nted does not export musixtex. Now I am looking to
  >|frescobaldi. Maybe I can do the whole job in lilypond.
  >|However although I am TeX-user since 1989 I prefer to do
  >|the first pass of creating music using a gui. But in the
  >|2nd path I prefer to change tex code.

I suggest you look at MuseScore which runs on Linux (as
well as Windows and Mac OS), and both imports and exports
musicxml.

Bob T.

  >|>|>To get back to the original question. Does anyone know
  >| >|>some other way to get pmx, m-tx or tex from nted?
  >|
  >|There are many gui-based score editors which export to
  >|musicxml; why are you insisting on using nted, which
  >|doesn't? And if you are so keen on a gui-based score editor,
  >|why do you need to convert to pmx?
  >|
  >|Bob T.
  >|
  >|
  >|
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Re: [Tex-music] nted to tex (via midi or lilypond)

2017-02-23 Thread Dieter 


Hi Bob and Hans Friedrich,

as  I pointed out in my previous mail, I made excellent experience with 
scanning notes, converting them to MusicXML, and then using XML2PMX to 
go to *.pmx.


So why do you not send me a PDF and I do the rest.

--Dieter
Am 22.02.2017 um 23:24 schrieb Bob Tennent:

  >|The project is producing size a5 booklets (~4 ... 12
  >|pages) with songs etc. for a service. Means mix of
  >|text and music.The first time I used noteedit which
  >|produces musixtex-code an combined this code with my
  >|texts.But noteedit does not run anymore on my computer
  >|:-(Than I found nted which is also nice to input music.
  >|But nted does not export musixtex. Now I am looking to
  >|frescobaldi. Maybe I can do the whole job in lilypond.
  >|However although I am TeX-user since 1989 I prefer to do
  >|the first pass of creating music using a gui. But in the
  >|2nd path I prefer to change tex code.

I suggest you look at MuseScore which runs on Linux (as
well as Windows and Mac OS), and both imports and exports
musicxml.

Bob T.

  >|>|>To get back to the original question. Does anyone know
  >| >|>some other way to get pmx, m-tx or tex from nted?
  >|
  >|There are many gui-based score editors which export to
  >|musicxml; why are you insisting on using nted, which
  >|doesn't? And if you are so keen on a gui-based score editor,
  >|why do you need to convert to pmx?
  >|
  >|Bob T.
  >|
  >|
  >|
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Re: [Tex-music] nted to tex (via midi or lilypond)

2017-02-22 Thread Bob Tennent 
 >|The project is producing size a5 booklets (~4 ... 12
 >|pages) with songs etc. for a service. Means mix of
 >|text and music.The first time I used noteedit which
 >|produces musixtex-code an combined this code with my
 >|texts.But noteedit does not run anymore on my computer
 >|:-(Than I found nted which is also nice to input music.
 >|But nted does not export musixtex. Now I am looking to
 >|frescobaldi. Maybe I can do the whole job in lilypond.
 >|However although I am TeX-user since 1989 I prefer to do
 >|the first pass of creating music using a gui. But in the
 >|2nd path I prefer to change tex code.

I suggest you look at MuseScore which runs on Linux (as
well as Windows and Mac OS), and both imports and exports
musicxml.

Bob T.

 >|>|>To get back to the original question. Does anyone know
 >| >|>some other way to get pmx, m-tx or tex from nted?
 >|
 >|There are many gui-based score editors which export to
 >|musicxml; why are you insisting on using nted, which
 >|doesn't? And if you are so keen on a gui-based score editor,
 >|why do you need to convert to pmx?
 >|
 >|Bob T.
 >|
 >|
 >|
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Re: [Tex-music] nted to tex (via midi or lilypond)

2017-02-22 Thread Bob Tennent 
 >|>To get back to the original question. Does anyone know
 >|>some other way to get pmx, m-tx or tex from nted?

There are many gui-based score editors which export to
musicxml; why are you insisting on using nted, which
doesn't? And if you are so keen on a gui-based score editor,
why do you need to convert to pmx?

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Re: [Tex-music] nted to tex (via midi or lilypond)

2017-02-22 Thread Urs Liska 


Am 22. Februar 2017 21:45:44 MEZ schrieb "HF. Steffani" <hf.steff...@yahoo.de>:
>Hello all,
>the extra flat is in the xml produced by frescobaldi.
>To get back to the original question. Does anyone know some other way
>to get pmx, m-tx or tex from nted?

I can't help with that at all, but please open an issue at 
https://github.com/wbsoft/python-ly/issues and attach some .ly and exported XML 
code. What you describe shouldn't happen, not even now.

Urs
>
>Hans Friedrich
>
>
>  Von: Urs Liska <u...@openlilylib.org>
>An: Werner Icking Music Archive <tex-music@tug.org>; Bob Tennent
><r...@cs.queensu.ca>; HF. Steffani <hf.steff...@yahoo.de> 
> Gesendet: 21:35 Mittwoch, 22.Februar 2017
> Betreff: Re: [Tex-music] nted to tex (via midi or lilypond)
>   
>
>
>Am 22. Februar 2017 21:25:02 MEZ schrieb Bob Tennent
><r...@cs.queensu.ca>:
>> >|my piece is in f-dur (one flat) and after all I've a flat
>> >|at the beginn of the line (ok) and before every b (not
>> >|ok).
>>
>>You'll have to report issues to the frescobaldi developers,
>>not to us.  Unless the problem is with XML2PMX or pmx.
>
>Or rather say a little more clearly *where* you have these extra flats
>(in the LilyPond code, the exported MusicXML, some consuming
>application, ...)
>
>For all the experimentality, this doesn't really look like a typical
>case of the exporter's limitations.
>
>Urs
>
>>
>>Bob T.
>>
>> >|>|I am using frescobaldi 2.19.0, but there is no export to xml :-(
>> >|
>> >|It's an "experimental feature".  Enable these in Preferences.
>>
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Re: [Tex-music] nted to tex (via midi or lilypond)

2017-02-22 Thread HF. Steffani 
Hello all,
the extra flat is in the xml produced by frescobaldi.
To get back to the original question. Does anyone know some other way to get 
pmx, m-tx or tex from nted?

Hans Friedrich


  Von: Urs Liska <u...@openlilylib.org>
 An: Werner Icking Music Archive <tex-music@tug.org>; Bob Tennent 
<r...@cs.queensu.ca>; HF. Steffani <hf.steff...@yahoo.de> 
 Gesendet: 21:35 Mittwoch, 22.Februar 2017
 Betreff: Re: [Tex-music] nted to tex (via midi or lilypond)
   


Am 22. Februar 2017 21:25:02 MEZ schrieb Bob Tennent <r...@cs.queensu.ca>:
> >|my piece is in f-dur (one flat) and after all I've a flat
> >|at the beginn of the line (ok) and before every b (not
> >|ok).
>
>You'll have to report issues to the frescobaldi developers,
>not to us.  Unless the problem is with XML2PMX or pmx.

Or rather say a little more clearly *where* you have these extra flats (in the 
LilyPond code, the exported MusicXML, some consuming application, ...)

For all the experimentality, this doesn't really look like a typical case of 
the exporter's limitations.

Urs

>
>Bob T.
>
> >|>|I am using frescobaldi 2.19.0, but there is no export to xml :-(
> >|
> >|It's an "experimental feature".  Enable these in Preferences.
>
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Re: [Tex-music] nted to tex (via midi or lilypond)

2017-02-22 Thread Urs Liska 


Am 22. Februar 2017 21:25:02 MEZ schrieb Bob Tennent :
> >|my piece is in f-dur (one flat) and after all I've a flat
> >|at the beginn of the line (ok) and before every b (not
> >|ok).
>
>You'll have to report issues to the frescobaldi developers,
>not to us.  Unless the problem is with XML2PMX or pmx.

Or rather say a little more clearly *where* you have these extra flats (in the 
LilyPond code, the exported MusicXML, some consuming application, ...)

For all the experimentality, this doesn't really look like a typical case of 
the exporter's limitations.

Urs

>
>Bob T.
>
> >|>|I am using frescobaldi 2.19.0, but there is no export to xml :-(
> >|
> >|It's an "experimental feature".  Enable these in Preferences.
>
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Re: [Tex-music] nted to tex (via midi or lilypond)

2017-02-22 Thread Bob Tennent 
 >|my piece is in f-dur (one flat) and after all I've a flat
 >|at the beginn of the line (ok) and before every b (not
 >|ok).

You'll have to report issues to the frescobaldi developers,
not to us.  Unless the problem is with XML2PMX or pmx.

Bob T.

 >|>|I am using frescobaldi 2.19.0, but there is no export to xml :-(
 >|
 >|It's an "experimental feature".  Enable these in Preferences.

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Re: [Tex-music] nted to tex (via midi or lilypond)

2017-02-22 Thread Urs Liska 


Am 22. Februar 2017 20:40:35 MEZ schrieb "HF. Steffani" <hf.steff...@yahoo.de>:
>I am using frescobaldi 2.19.0, but there is no export to xml :-(

Frescobaldi does have export to MusicXML. But it is still very experimental, 
therefore you have to enable "experimental features" in the preferences.

HTH
Urs

>Hans Friedrich
>  Von: Bob Tennent <r...@cs.queensu.ca>
> An: HF. Steffani <hf.steff...@yahoo.de> 
>CC: Werner Icking Music Archive <tex-music@tug.org>
> Gesendet: 6:37 Mittwoch, 22.Februar 2017
> Betreff: Re: [Tex-music] nted to tex (via midi or lilypond)
>   
>>|although maybe off topic:I am using nted
> >|(https://vsr.informatik.tu-chemnitz.de/staff/jan/nted/nte
> >|d.xhtml ) but I need some kind of pmx, m-tx or tex
> >|output.Does someone know a sensible workflow?nted is able
> >|to produce midi and lilypond files.
>
>I believe the frescobaldi editor for lilypond files will
>export to musicxml. I'd guess that this is a better route
>than going via midi.
>
>Bob T.
>
>
>   

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Re: [Tex-music] nted to tex (via midi or lilypond)

2017-02-22 Thread HF. Steffani 
I am using frescobaldi 2.19.0, but there is no export to xml :-(
Hans Friedrich
  Von: Bob Tennent <r...@cs.queensu.ca>
 An: HF. Steffani <hf.steff...@yahoo.de> 
CC: Werner Icking Music Archive <tex-music@tug.org>
 Gesendet: 6:37 Mittwoch, 22.Februar 2017
 Betreff: Re: [Tex-music] nted to tex (via midi or lilypond)
   
>|although maybe off topic:I am using nted
 >|(https://vsr.informatik.tu-chemnitz.de/staff/jan/nted/nte
 >|d.xhtml ) but I need some kind of pmx, m-tx or tex
 >|output.Does someone know a sensible workflow?nted is able
 >|to produce midi and lilypond files.

I believe the frescobaldi editor for lilypond files will
export to musicxml. I'd guess that this is a better route
than going via midi.

Bob T.


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Re: [Tex-music] nted to tex (via midi or lilypond)

2017-02-22 Thread HF. Steffani 
Sorry for the mini mails. 

XML2PMX seems also to work, when the XML und PMX folder are not in the same 
location as the executable. (Linux environment)
Hans Friedrich


  Von: Dieter <d.gloet...@web.de>
 An: tex-music@tug.org 
 Gesendet: 9:24 Mittwoch, 22.Februar 2017
 Betreff: Re: [Tex-music] nted to tex (via midi or lilypond)
   
 Hello Hans Friedrich,
 
 your XML and PMX folders should be subfolders of the folder which contains the 
executable.
 And then the command file for the example is:
 ./XML2PMX "./XML/Telemann.xml" "./PMX/Telemann.pmx" ""
 The two double quotes at the end are required.
 
 But you can send me as well your XML file, and I will handle it for you. 
 
 Or you send me the stuff as pdf, and I will OCR-scan it to XML and then to PMX.
 
 I agree with Bob that Midi will cause information loss.
 
 Regards,
 Dieter
 
 Am 21.02.2017 um 21:44 schrieb HF. Steffani:
  
  Hello, 
  as a first try, I converterd my midi with rosegarden to xml. Than I tried 
xml2pmx, but this tells me 
  
 hfst@linux-hzgh:~/noten/martha_kommunion> ~/bin/XML2PMX_LINUX-170108/XML2PMX 
"./XML/Gott_baut_ein_Haus.xml" "./PMX/Gott_baut_ein_Haus.pmx" "dvs"
 
 ./XML/Gott_baut_ein_Haus.xml
 ./PMX/Gott_baut_ein_Haus.pmx
 DVS
  output control set :  1|    2|    3|
 This is XML2PMX Version 1.1 .
 Inputfile./XML/Gott_baut_ein_Haus.xml not available.
 ===
  Sorted List of Tags hfst@linux-hzgh:~/noten/martha_kommunion> 
  
 What is wrong? Any ideas?
 
Thanks Hans Friedrich
  
Von: HF. Steffani <hf.steff...@yahoo.de>
 An: Werner Icking Music Archive <tex-music@tug.org> 
 Gesendet: 21:07 Dienstag, 21.Februar 2017
 Betreff: nted to tex (via midi or lilypond)
  
Hello, 
  although maybe off topic: I am using nted 
(https://vsr.informatik.tu-chemnitz.de/staff/jan/nted/nted.xhtml ) but I need 
some kind of pmx, m-tx or tex output. Does someone know a sensible workflow? 
nted is able to produce midi and lilypond files. 
  Thanks 
  Hans Friedrich 
  
 
  
  
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Re: [Tex-music] nted to tex (via midi or lilypond)

2017-02-22 Thread HF. Steffani 
Ok, its proved. XML2PMX does not like  underscore neither in the xml-file nor 
in the pmx-file.
Hans Friedrich

  Von: HF. Steffani <hf.steff...@yahoo.de>
 An: Werner Icking Music Archive <tex-music@tug.org> 
 Gesendet: 20:18 Mittwoch, 22.Februar 2017
 Betreff: Re: [Tex-music] nted to tex (via midi or lilypond)
   
Hello,
thanks for responses. It seems that XML2PMX does not like underscores. Is this 
true? I deleted the underscores and things seem to be better.
Hans Friedrich

  Von: Dieter <d.gloet...@web.de>
 An: tex-music@tug.org 
 Gesendet: 9:24 Mittwoch, 22.Februar 2017
 Betreff: Re: [Tex-music] nted to tex (via midi or lilypond)
  
 Hello Hans Friedrich,
 
 your XML and PMX folders should be subfolders of the folder which contains the 
executable.
 And then the command file for the example is:
 ./XML2PMX "./XML/Telemann.xml" "./PMX/Telemann.pmx" ""
 The two double quotes at the end are required.
 
 But you can send me as well your XML file, and I will handle it for you. 
 
 Or you send me the stuff as pdf, and I will OCR-scan it to XML and then to PMX.
 
 I agree with Bob that Midi will cause information loss.
 
 Regards,
 Dieter
 
 Am 21.02.2017 um 21:44 schrieb HF. Steffani:
  
  Hello, 
  as a first try, I converterd my midi with rosegarden to xml. Than I tried 
xml2pmx, but this tells me 
  
 hfst@linux-hzgh:~/noten/martha_kommunion> ~/bin/XML2PMX_LINUX-170108/XML2PMX 
"./XML/Gott_baut_ein_Haus.xml" "./PMX/Gott_baut_ein_Haus.pmx" "dvs"
 
 ./XML/Gott_baut_ein_Haus.xml
 ./PMX/Gott_baut_ein_Haus.pmx
 DVS
  output control set :  1|    2|    3|
 This is XML2PMX Version 1.1 .
 Inputfile./XML/Gott_baut_ein_Haus.xml not available.
 ===
  Sorted List of Tags hfst@linux-hzgh:~/noten/martha_kommunion> 
  
 What is wrong? Any ideas?
 
Thanks Hans Friedrich
  
Von: HF. Steffani <hf.steff...@yahoo.de>
 An: Werner Icking Music Archive <tex-music@tug.org> 
 Gesendet: 21:07 Dienstag, 21.Februar 2017
 Betreff: nted to tex (via midi or lilypond)
  
Hello, 
  although maybe off topic: I am using nted 
(https://vsr.informatik.tu-chemnitz.de/staff/jan/nted/nted.xhtml ) but I need 
some kind of pmx, m-tx or tex output. Does someone know a sensible workflow? 
nted is able to produce midi and lilypond files. 
  Thanks 
  Hans Friedrich 
  
 
  
  
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Re: [Tex-music] nted to tex (via midi or lilypond)

2017-02-22 Thread HF. Steffani 
Hello,
thanks for responses. It seems that XML2PMX does not like underscores. Is this 
true? I deleted the underscores and things seem to be better.
Hans Friedrich

  Von: Dieter <d.gloet...@web.de>
 An: tex-music@tug.org 
 Gesendet: 9:24 Mittwoch, 22.Februar 2017
 Betreff: Re: [Tex-music] nted to tex (via midi or lilypond)
   
 Hello Hans Friedrich,
 
 your XML and PMX folders should be subfolders of the folder which contains the 
executable.
 And then the command file for the example is:
 ./XML2PMX "./XML/Telemann.xml" "./PMX/Telemann.pmx" ""
 The two double quotes at the end are required.
 
 But you can send me as well your XML file, and I will handle it for you. 
 
 Or you send me the stuff as pdf, and I will OCR-scan it to XML and then to PMX.
 
 I agree with Bob that Midi will cause information loss.
 
 Regards,
 Dieter
 
 Am 21.02.2017 um 21:44 schrieb HF. Steffani:
  
  Hello, 
  as a first try, I converterd my midi with rosegarden to xml. Than I tried 
xml2pmx, but this tells me 
  
 hfst@linux-hzgh:~/noten/martha_kommunion> ~/bin/XML2PMX_LINUX-170108/XML2PMX 
"./XML/Gott_baut_ein_Haus.xml" "./PMX/Gott_baut_ein_Haus.pmx" "dvs"
 
 ./XML/Gott_baut_ein_Haus.xml
 ./PMX/Gott_baut_ein_Haus.pmx
 DVS
  output control set :  1|    2|    3|
 This is XML2PMX Version 1.1 .
 Inputfile./XML/Gott_baut_ein_Haus.xml not available.
 ===
  Sorted List of Tags hfst@linux-hzgh:~/noten/martha_kommunion> 
  
 What is wrong? Any ideas?
 
Thanks Hans Friedrich
  
Von: HF. Steffani <hf.steff...@yahoo.de>
 An: Werner Icking Music Archive <tex-music@tug.org> 
 Gesendet: 21:07 Dienstag, 21.Februar 2017
 Betreff: nted to tex (via midi or lilypond)
  
Hello, 
  although maybe off topic: I am using nted 
(https://vsr.informatik.tu-chemnitz.de/staff/jan/nted/nted.xhtml ) but I need 
some kind of pmx, m-tx or tex output. Does someone know a sensible workflow? 
nted is able to produce midi and lilypond files. 
  Thanks 
  Hans Friedrich 
  
 
  
  
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Re: [Tex-music] nted to tex (via midi or lilypond)

2017-02-21 Thread Bob Tennent 
 >|although maybe off topic:I am using nted
 >|(https://vsr.informatik.tu-chemnitz.de/staff/jan/nted/nte
 >|d.xhtml ) but I need some kind of pmx, m-tx or tex
 >|output.Does someone know a sensible workflow?nted is able
 >|to produce midi and lilypond files.

I believe the frescobaldi editor for lilypond files will
export to musicxml. I'd guess that this is a better route
than going via midi.

Bob T.
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Re: [Tex-music] nted to tex (via midi or lilypond)

2017-02-21 Thread Don Simons 
Hans Friedrich—

 

Since I’ve recently been working with Dieter as he is making some improvements 
to XML2PMX, even before your 2nd post I thought some path involving an XML 
might be the way to go.

 

Dieter will probably respond when he can. I can’t help with your immediate 
problem beyond saying to check the path, because it looks like it’s simply not 
finding the xml file. Beyond that I can tell you it would probably be useful if 
you could post the xml file.

 

--Don Simons

 

From: TeX-Music [mailto:tex-music-boun...@tug.org] On Behalf Of HF. Steffani
Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2017 12:44 PM
To: Werner Icking Music Archive <tex-music@tug.org>
Subject: Re: [Tex-music] nted to tex (via midi or lilypond)

 

Hello,

 

as a first try, I converterd my midi with rosegarden to xml. Than I tried 
xml2pmx, but this tells me 

hfst@linux-hzgh:~/noten/martha_kommunion> ~/bin/XML2PMX_LINUX-170108/XML2PMX 
"./XML/Gott_baut_ein_Haus.xml" "./PMX/Gott_baut_ein_Haus.pmx" "dvs"

./XML/Gott_baut_ein_Haus.xml
./PMX/Gott_baut_ein_Haus.pmx
DVS
 output control set :  1|2|3|
This is XML2PMX Version 1.1 .
Inputfile./XML/Gott_baut_ein_Haus.xml not available.
===
 Sorted List of Tags hfst@linux-hzgh:~/noten/martha_kommunion> 

What is wrong? Any ideas?

 

Thanks

Hans Friedrich

 

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Von: HF. Steffani <hf.steff...@yahoo.de <mailto:hf.steff...@yahoo.de> >
An: Werner Icking Music Archive <tex-music@tug.org <mailto:tex-music@tug.org> > 
Gesendet: 21:07 Dienstag, 21.Februar 2017
Betreff: nted to tex (via midi or lilypond)

 

Hello,

 

although maybe off topic:

I am using nted 
(https://vsr.informatik.tu-chemnitz.de/staff/jan/nted/nted.xhtml ) but I need 
some kind of pmx, m-tx or tex output.

Does someone know a sensible workflow?

nted is able to produce midi and lilypond files.

 

Thanks 

Hans Friedrich

 

 

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Re: [Tex-music] nted to tex (via midi or lilypond)

2017-02-21 Thread HF. Steffani 
Hello,
as a first try, I converterd my midi with rosegarden to xml. Than I tried 
xml2pmx, but this tells me 

hfst@linux-hzgh:~/noten/martha_kommunion> ~/bin/XML2PMX_LINUX-170108/XML2PMX 
"./XML/Gott_baut_ein_Haus.xml" "./PMX/Gott_baut_ein_Haus.pmx" "dvs"

./XML/Gott_baut_ein_Haus.xml
./PMX/Gott_baut_ein_Haus.pmx
DVS
 output control set :  1|    2|    3|
This is XML2PMX Version 1.1 .
Inputfile./XML/Gott_baut_ein_Haus.xml not available.
===
 Sorted List of Tags hfst@linux-hzgh:~/noten/martha_kommunion> 

What is wrong? Any ideas?

ThanksHans Friedrich

  Von: HF. Steffani 
 An: Werner Icking Music Archive  
 Gesendet: 21:07 Dienstag, 21.Februar 2017
 Betreff: nted to tex (via midi or lilypond)
   
Hello,
although maybe off topic:I am using nted 
(https://vsr.informatik.tu-chemnitz.de/staff/jan/nted/nted.xhtml ) but I need 
some kind of pmx, m-tx or tex output.Does someone know a sensible workflow?nted 
is able to produce midi and lilypond files.
Thanks 
Hans Friedrich


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