[tips] Departmental Consulting Service
The Departmental Consulting Service (DCS) is a service offered to psychology departments through the joint efforts of the APA Education Directorate and the Society for the Teaching of Psychology (STP). Developed in response to an increasing need for evaluations, the service provides recommendations for qualified consultants. The Departmental Consulting Service maintains a database of faculty consultants with expertise in areas including curriculum, diversity, faculty, advising, research facilities, and departmental program evaluation. We have consultants with experience at a wide range of institutions including community colleges, four-year public and private colleges and universities, and doctoral programs. DCS does not charge departments for this matching service. Departments should expect to cover travel costs and an honorarium for any consultant(s) they hire. These costs are jointly determined by the consultant and the contracting department. Departments with limited finances may request a reduced or waived honorarium which consultants are free to agree to, but are under no obligation to accept. If you are interested in obtaining recommendations for consultants, please contact me at krei...@ucmo.edu. David Kreiner Professor of Psychology University of Central Missouri Lovinger Warrensburg MO 64093 krei...@ucmo.edu --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly (bsouthe...@frostburg.edu)
Re: [tips] First use of the term alpha
Stephen, first the good news. I was able to access the full text of Carpenter (1942). The bad news: no use of the term alpha male. David Kreiner Professor of Psychology University of Central Missouri Lovinger Warrensburg MO 64093 krei...@ucmo.edu --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly (bsouthe...@frostburg.edu)
[tips] interested in being listed as a DCS consultant?
Interested in being listed as a consultant with DCS? The Departmental Consulting Service (DCS) is a service offered through the joint efforts of the APA Education Directorate and the Society for the Teaching of Psychology (STP). We match up qualified consultants with Psychology departments in need of consulting services. In order to qualify as a DCS consultant, applicants must have the following qualifications: 1. Administration experience (department chair, assistant department chair, etc.). 2. Experience as a program evaluator. 3. Expertise in multiple consultation areas (examples listed below). Specific areas for consultation include (but are not limited to): curriculum (evaluation, development, designing/improving special programs or courses, fieldwork or honors); faculty (writing grant proposals, developing funding sources, writing for publication, promoting professional development, enhancing/evaluating teacher effectiveness); advising (student advising for career planning, graduate school preparation, changing enrollments, minority recruitment and retention); research facilities (designing psychology labs, designing teaching facilities, computer applications for courses, labs, or administration); departmental program evaluation (self-assessments, program evaluation, department evaluation). If you meet the requirements listed above and you are interested in applying to be a consultant, please email me at krei...@ucmo.edu. I will then let you know what materials I need to complete your application. I will need to receive your application materials by September 1 so that we can complete the review process by the end of September. Completed applications will be reviewed by both DCS and by APA���s Board of Educational Affairs (BEA). Thanks, and please let me know if you have any questions. Dave David Kreiner Professor of Psychology University of Central Missouri Lovinger Warrensburg MO 64093 krei...@ucmo.edu --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly (bsouthe...@frostburg.edu)
[tips] Departmental Consulting Service Consultant Applications
Interested in being approved as a DCS consultant? The Departmental Consulting Service (DCS) is a service offered through the joint efforts of the APA Education Directorate and the Society for the Teaching of Psychology (STP). Developed in response to an increasing need for evaluations, DCS provides departments of psychology with a list of qualified consultants who will provide feedback that will enable them to improve their programs. Completed applications will be reviewed by both DCS and by APA���s Board of Educational Affairs (BEA). For applications to be ready for the spring BEA meeting, I will need to receive your application materials by January 12 so that we can complete the review process by the beginning of February. In order to qualify as a DCS consultant, applicants must have the following qualifications: 1. Administration experience (department chair, assistant department chair, etc.). 2. Experience as a program evaluator. 3. Expertise in multiple consultation areas (examples listed below). Specific areas for consultation include (but are not limited to): curriculum (evaluation, development, designing/improving special programs or courses, fieldwork or honors); faculty (writing grant proposals, developing funding sources, writing for publication, promoting professional development, enhancing/evaluating teacher effectiveness); advising (student advising for career planning, graduate school preparation, changing enrollments, minority recruitment and retention); research facilities (designing psychology labs, designing teaching facilities, computer applications for courses, labs, or administration); departmental program evaluation (self-assessments, program evaluation, department evaluation). If you are interested in applying to be a consultant, please email me at krei...@ucmo.edu. I will then let you know what materials I need to complete your application. Thanks, and please let me know if you have any questions. David Kreiner Professor of Psychology University of Central Missouri Lovinger Warrensburg MO 64093 krei...@ucmo.edu --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly (bsouthe...@frostburg.edu)
Re: [tips] The Obama Bandwagon/Attitude reconstruction
I found it interesting that exit polls suggested that Californians would defeat a constitutional amendment banning gay marriage, 53% saying they voted against it and 47% saying they voted for the ban. See http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/11/04/state.laws/index.html?iref=newssearch In the actual vote, the ban was passed by about 52% to 48%. Similar to the purported Bradley Effect, I wonder if it's possible that people claimed that they had voted against the ban because they did not want to seem intolerant, even though they voted for the ban. It also seems possible that some voters might simply not remember whether they voted yes or no on a ballot issue, especially if there were many issues on the same ballot. Or maybe some voters thought that by selecting yes, they were voting to allow gay marriage. Does anyone have any additional information or insight on this result? I have seen remarkably little in the news about this discrepancy between the exit polls and the actual results, although the protests in California have been in the news today. By the way, I think this issue of comparing exit polls to actual voting results could make for some interesting discussion in the context of sampling methods and statistics. Remember how the early exit polls suggested Kerry would win in 2004? David Kreiner Professor of Psychology University of Central Missouri Lovinger Warrensburg MO 64093 [EMAIL PROTECTED] beth benoit [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/5/2008 10:08 AM I���m wondering if, now that Barack Obama has won, we will see the same psychological response in months/years to come that we saw when Dubya started to become unpopular: hardly anyone would admit that they���d voted for him in 2004. Will people start aligning themselves with the winner and distancing themselves from the loser and start to recall that THEY voted for Barack? (I have the bumper stickers and Obama pins to prove my allegiance���as well as the credit card charges on my Visa bill!) Bem and McConnell did the early research on reconstructing our past attitudes, and I suspect we���ll see this false memory in the months to come. Dave Myers has a wonderful quote in his Social Psych. textbook, from George Vaillant (1977): ���It is all too common for caterpillars to become butterflies and then to maintain that in their youth they had been little butterflies. Maturation makes liars of us all.��� When I first put Obama bumper stickers on my car a year ago people would sometimes openly challenge me. In a parking lot, one woman said, ���Oh! An Obama fan!��� Thinking she was a kindred spirit, I started to ���talk the talk��� and she said, ���Oh, I���M not for him! I���m for ANYBODY but him.��� I was sickened by her venom. I worried mightily about ���the Bradley Effect,��� which happily didn���t take place. I probably speak for a lot of people that we���re not down from the clouds yet. Beth Benoit Granite State College New Hampshire --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: [tips] Leno on positive psychology
There is a review in this week's issue of PsycCRITIQUES of the following book: The Levity Effect: Why It Pays to Lighten Up by Adrian Gostick and Scott Christopher Hoboken, NJ: Wiley, 2008. 229 pp. ISBN 978-0-470-19588-8. $22.95 An excerpt from the review by Richard D. Harvey: In sum, this is a well-written book that makes the business case for why organizations ought to seriously consider adopting levity-related practices and programs. So maybe employers should consider happiness to be a skill. David Kreiner Professor of Psychology University of Central Missouri Lovinger Warrensburg MO 64093 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/6/2008 10:46 PM Positive psychology made Jay Leno's monologue last night. He said that professors in a lot of colleges are now giving courses in positive psychology, in which they teach students to be happy. And they stay happy, until they graduate, at which point they discover that employers don't consider happiness to be a skill. (rimshot) Chris Green York U. Toronto --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
[tips] Departmental Consulting Service
The Departmental Consulting Service (DCS) is a service offered to psychology departments through the joint efforts of the APA Education Directorate and the Society for the Teaching of Psychology (STP). Developed in response to an increasing need for evaluations, the service provides departments of psychology with a list of qualified consultants who will provide feedback that will enable them to improve their programs. We have consultants who can help you with any number of consulting requests, including community college reviews and consulting services that deal with diversity issues. The Departmental Consulting Service maintains a database of faculty consultants with expertise in a broad range of areas. Specific areas include (but are not limited to): curriculum (evaluation, development, designing/improving special programs or courses, fieldwork or honors); faculty (writing grant proposals, developing funding sources, writing for publication, promoting professional development, enhancing/evaluating teacher effectiveness); advising (student advising for career planning, graduate school preparation, changing enrollments, minority recruitment and retention); research facilities (designing psychology labs, designing teaching facilities, computer applications for courses, labs, or administration); departmental program evaluation (self-assessments, program evaluation, department evaluation). Departments interested in requesting a consultant can contact David Kreiner at the address below or [EMAIL PROTECTED] A minimum of three consultants will be recommended whenever possible. Departments are asked to pay for all travel expenses that may be incurred during a site visit. Additionally, departments will be encouraged to pay an honorarium (jointly determined by the department and the invited consultant). Departments with limited finances may request a reduced or waived honorarium which consultants are free to agree to, but are under no obligation to accept. Departmental Consulting Service Attn: David Kreiner University of Central Missouri Department of Psychology Lovinger Warrensburg MO 64093-5089 Phone.: (660) 543-8076 FAX: (660) 543-8505 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] David Kreiner Professor of Psychology University of Central Missouri Lovinger Warrensburg MO 64093 [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: [tips] SPSS Manual for Stats Research Design Class
Margie, I have used Field's book the last couple of times in my Master's level Advanced Statistics course. I love it, and I have had positive feedback from the students (first time ever for a statistics text). Field has an interesting sense of humor. It is really a textbook, not a lab manual, although he does walk you through how to do SPSS procedures. I think you could use it for an undergrad class, but if I did I would leave out quite a bit. One of the interesting features of the book is that each chapter section is numerically coded according to its difficulty, so you could use that to assign readings, depending on the level of your students. I hope this helps. David Kreiner Professor of Psychology and Associate Dean of The Graduate School University of Central Missouri [EMAIL PROTECTED] Margie Hardy [EMAIL PROTECTED] 3/31/2008 7:52 AM Hi Everyone, For the past couple of years, we have used Green Salkind's Using SPSS manual and CD in the lab portion of our Stats Research Design Class. In browsing the web, however, I ran across Discovering Statistics Using SPSS by Andy Field. Have any of your used this manual--or any other--sucessfully in your classes? Oh, by the way, our version of SPSS is 15. Also, do you have any suggestions for brief books on How to Write in APA style? I'm tempted here to just direct students to some good websites. Thanks in advance for any suggestions. Margie Hardy --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
RE: [tips] Availability Heuristic Activities?
A nice online source for these sorts of questions about words is the MRC Psycholinguistic Database at http://www.psy.uwa.edu.au/mrcdatabase/uwa_mrc.htm . I used the Simple Letter Match to locate words that started with k and words that had k as the third letter. Now, there are numerous options about which types of items to include or exclude.So the answer is going to depend on what you consider a word (and how it is coded in the database). I included all of the items that were coded as standard as opposed to obsolete, foreign, etc. I also excluded non-word morphemes such as prefixes and suffixes. Anyway, here are the results from my search: Words beginning with k = 297 Words with k as 3rd letter = 158 David Kreiner Professor of Psychology and Associate Dean of The Graduate School University of Central Missouri [EMAIL PROTECTED] Rick Froman [EMAIL PROTECTED] 3/20/2008 12:28 PM Thanks, Jon. I will look there. I hope that Myers cites a primary source for this statement but even better would be a program or a site that would allow for the demonstration of this difference (possibly some kind of onilne crossword dictionary). Rick Dr. Rick Froman, Chair Division of Humanities and Social Sciences John Brown University Siloam Springs, AR 72761 [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Jonathan Mueller [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2008 11:56 AM To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) Subject: RE: [tips] Availability Heuristic Activities? Rick, According to Myers (2005), there are two to three times as many k's in print in the third position than in the first. Myers, D. G. (2005). Social psychology. (8th ed.). Boston: McGraw-Hill. Jon === Jon Mueller Professor of Psychology North Central College 30 N. Brainard St. Naperville, IL 60540 voice: (630)-637-5329 fax: (630)-637-5121 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://jonathan.mueller.faculty.noctrl.eduhttp://jonathan.mueller.faculty.noctrl.edu/ Rick Froman [EMAIL PROTECTED] 3/20/2008 11:20 AM I know that there are supposed to be more with the letter in the third position than in the first but does anyone have a source of an actual count or estimate of English words of how often letters appear in the first or third position? Or possibly a program or website that would allow for making such an estimate? Thanks, Rick Dr. Rick Froman, Chair Division of Humanities and Social Sciences John Brown University Siloam Springs, AR 72761 [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Christopher D. Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2008 10:58 AM To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) Subject: Re: [tips] Availability Heuristic Activities? Julie Osland wrote: Hi Tipsters-- I'm going to be covering heuristics in a week, and I need demonstration/activity for the availability heuristic. In years past, I used a handout comparing causes of death (such as asthma, lightning strike, stroke, tornado, all accidents, etc) but have found it to no longer work (most students answer the items correctly). Any ideas of something new and different to try? How about the old standby: How many English words start with R? How many have R as the third letter? Chris -- Christopher D. Green Department of Psychology York University Toronto, ON M3J 1P3 Canada 416-736-2100 ex. 66164 [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.yorku.ca/christo/ --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: [tips] TIPS Member Listing
Hi Sue. This looks great! It did take a little while to load in my browser. I love the map feature. I noticed that in the alphabetical listing, the name of my university comes up correctly, University of Central Missouri, but on the map the old name is there, Central Missouri State University. Also, the link to my webpage is: http://faculty.ucmo.edu/dkreiner Thanks for doing this! Dave David Kreiner Professor of Psychology and Associate Dean of The Graduate School University of Central Missouri [EMAIL PROTECTED] FRANTZ, SUE [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2/13/2008 10:19 AM Hi all, This is my semiannual announcement for additions (including photos), removals, and changes to the TIPS Member Listing at: http://flightline.highline.edu/sfrantz/tips For new members, this is an announcement of the listing's existence. =) If you're accustomed to visiting the page, be prepared. I've made a major change. In the process, I've updated several dead links. If I've inadvertently changed something I shouldn't have -- or even deleted you -- please let me know. Email me off list: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sue -- Sue Frantz Highline Community College PsychologyDes Moines, WA 206.878.3710 x3404[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://flightline.highline.edu/sfrantz/ -- APA Division 2: Society for the Teaching of Psychology http://teachpsych.org/ ( http://teachpsych.org/otrp/syllabi/syllabi.php ) Office of Teaching Resources in Psychology Associate Director Project Syllabus http://teachpsych.org/otrp/syllabi/syllabi.php ( http://www.apadiv2.org/otrp/index.php ) --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
[tips] position announcement
TENURE-TRACK FACULTY POSITIONS: The Department of Psychology of the University of Central Missouri invites applications for two faculty positions at the rank of assistant professor beginning August 2007. Requirements for the clinical/counseling position: At time of application, candidate should have a doctoral degree in clinical or counseling psychology or ABD. However, candidate must have a Ph.D. from an APA-accredited clinical or counseling psychology program and an APA-accredited internship by time of appointment. Teaching duties: must have the ability to teach three or more of the following graduate and undergraduate Psychology courses: introductory, clinical neuropsychology, research design and analysis, abnormal, industrial-organizational, theories of personality, individual intelligence testing. Ability to teach other courses that meet department needs is desirable. Requirements for the general/experimental position: At time of application, candidate should have a doctoral degree in psychology or ABD. However, candidate must have completed the Ph.D. by time of appointment. Teaching duties: must have the ability to teach three or more of the following graduate and undergraduate Psychology courses: introductory, learning, physiological psychology, research design and analysis, adolescence, industrial-organizational. Ability to teach other courses that meet department needs is desirable. For both positions, demonstrated effectiveness in teaching, research, and service is essential as is interest and ability to design and teach on-line courses. Salaries are competitive. Review begins February 1, 2007 for both positions and continues until filled. Send letter of application, vitae, three letters of recommendation, copies of graduate and undergraduate transcripts, documentation of teaching effectiveness, and preprints/reprints to Search Committee Co-Chair Kimberly Stark-Wroblewski, Ph.D. for the Clinical/Counseling position or Co-Chair David S. Kreiner, Ph.D. for the General/Experimental position, Lovinger, University of Central Missouri, Warrensburg, MO 64093. Candidates should apply for only one position. David Kreiner Professor of Psychology and Associate Dean of The Graduate School University of Central Missouri [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- To make changes to your subscription go to: http://acsun.frostburg.edu/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=tipstext_mode=0lang=english
[tips] Re: 18-20 kHz and it's marketability
And the inventor won the prestigious Ig Nobel Peace Prize. From www.improbable.com : PEACE: Howard Stapleton of Merthyr Tydfil, Wales, for inventing an electromechanical teenager repellant -- a device that makes annoying noise designed to be audible to teenagers but not to adults; and for later using that same technology to make telephone ringtones that are audible to teenagers but not to their teachers. REFERENCE: http://www.compoundsecurity.co.uk David Kreiner Professor of Psychology and Associate Dean of The Graduate School University of Central Missouri [EMAIL PROTECTED] FRANTZ, SUE [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/12/2006 10:02 PM I'm sure some of you have already heard of this, but it was news to me. Today in class I was talking about hearing and hearing loss in the upper frequencies. And a couple of my students said, Oh, like the mosquito ringtone. They were passing comments, and I didn't want to get into it, so I left it until I got back to my office to investigate. In short, a theater in England was having problems with the large number of youth gathering in their square. Compound Security (http://www.compoundsecurity.co.uk/) supplied them with a high-pitched tone (18-20 kHz) to pipe into the square. It worked. The kids dispersed. And since it was too high for most adults to hear, it didn't bother their patrons. For the BBC radio program that discusses it, go here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/wiltshire/content/articles/2006/04/04/mosquito_soun d_wave_feature.shtml In the radio program, they have a recording from the square playing in the background, but according to my evening students, you can't hear the high-pitched tone. Apparently that MP3 cut off the higher frequencies. But at the bottom of the page, there's an MP3 of just the recording from the square where it can be heard -- if you're young enough. I'm not. All I hear is the hum of traffic and people in the background. But my younger evening students were plugging their ears, and my older students were left looking at each other. (I think this MP3 peaks at about 17 kHz if I was reading the classroom's audio software correctly.) The descriptions students gave were interesting -- like a cricket, like dying birds. In the news program they say that people over 25 can't hear it, but of course there's much variability. One of my nearly-30 students said he could hear it. And now the kicker. It's available as a ringtone (in the US: http://www.fork.com/, in the UK: http://www.mozzyworld.com/). Reportedly, students are now using it to hear the arrival of text messages in class because their older teachers can't hear it. -- Sue Frantz Highline Community College PsychologyDes Moines, WA 206.878.3710 x3404[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://flightline.highline.edu/sfrantz/ -- Office of Teaching Resources in Psychology Assistant Director, Project Syllabus http://www.lemoyne.edu/OTRP/projectsyllabus.html --- To make changes to your subscription go to: http://acsun.frostburg.edu/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=tipstext_mode=0lang=english !DSPAM:1452,452f01ff88571227018335! --- To make changes to your subscription go to: http://acsun.frostburg.edu/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=tipstext_mode=0lang=english
[tips] convention speakers
I was noticed that Dr. Phil is one of the invited speakers for the APA convention in August. It struck me as aninteresting contrast with the types of speakers at APS. For example, Malcolm Gladwell, who is not a psychologist, gave a very interesting and largely science-based talk at APS. Dr. Phil does identify as a psychologist, but I would be surprised if his APA presentationturns out to bescience-based. I admit that I have not read any of his books and have only watched brief parts of his show, so maybe I am not being fair to him. Does this strike others as representative of the differences between APS and APA? Is there a reason for concern with either type of speaker? I suppose my own bias is obvious, but I wonder how other feel about the types of speakers invited by these two organizations. David KreinerProfessor of Psychology and Associate Dean of The Graduate SchoolCentral Missouri State University[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- To make changes to your subscription go to: http://acsun.frostburg.edu/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=tipstext_mode=0lang=english
Great Plains Student Psychology Conference
Dear Colleagues: You and your students are cordially invited to the 26th annual Great Plains Student PsychologyConference.The conferencewill be held March 17-18, 2006 at Central Missouri State University in Warrensburg, Missouri. Featured speakers will be Dr. Danny Wedding of the Missouri Institute of Mental Health and Dr. Shane Lopez of The University of Kansas. Undergraduate and graduate students may submit proposals for empirical and non-empirical oral presentations and posters. Students are encouraged to attend even if they will not be presenting. Proposal submission and conferenceregistration are available at www.cmsu.edu/greatplains2006. We are looking forward to seeing you and your students in March. Please don't hesitate to contact me if you have any questions about the conference. David KreinerProfessor of Psychology and Associate Dean of The Graduate SchoolCentral Missouri State University[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
position announcement
FACULTY POSITION, PSYCHOLOGY: Tenure-track Assistant Professor beginning August 2006. Requirements: At time of application, candidate should have a doctoral degree in Psychology or ABD. However, candidate must have Ph. D. completed by time of appointment. Commitment to excellence in teaching, service, and research is essential. Previous college teaching is highly desirable. Teaching duties: must have the ability to teach three of the following graduate and undergraduate Psychology courses: introductory, learning, neuroscience, research design, statistics, history systems, and social. Interest and ability to design and teach on-line courses is essential. Salary is competitive. Review begins February 1, 2006 and continues until filled. Send letter of application, vitae, three letters of recommendation, copies of graduate and undergraduate transcripts, documentation of teaching effectiveness, and preprints/reprints to: Robert F. Ahlering, Ph.D., Chair, Psychology Search Committee, Lovinger, Central Missouri State University, Warrensburg, MO 64093. Women and minorities are strongly encouraged to apply. An Affirmative Action/Equal Employment Opportunity/ADA Employer. David Kreiner Professor of Psychology and Associate Dean of The Graduate School Central Missouri State University [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: IRB's gone wild
I may be too late to contribute anything helpful to this thread (I get the digest version so I'm always a day behind or so).There is obviously a concern about to what extent the IRB should be evaluating the quality of the research, and intelligent people can have different opinions on this. On the practical side, I would suggest that one or two faculty from the department ask to meet with the IRB to discuss the issue in general (not just the specific protocol that was submitted). The IRB members are most likely reasonable people who would appreciate a dialogue about how to best fulfill their responsibilities. So my suggestion (as the IRB administrator at my institution) is to listen to their concerns, explain your concerns, and help them come up with a good policy that fits your institution. David Kreiner Professor of Psychology and Assistant Dean of The Graduate School Central Missouri State University [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]