Re: [TruthTalk] Another Jesus and a different spirit ...

2003-12-09 Thread Dave
DAVEH: My latest comments are in BLACK... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Judy Taylor wrote: Hi DaveH, Glad to see you are back at home now... [EMAIL PROTECTED]> jt: Biblically whenever angels appeared they spoke in line with the rest of scriptureand the book of Mormon along with the other two

: [TruthTalk] Another Jesus and a different spirit ...

2003-12-09 Thread Judy Taylor
jt: Biblically whenever angels appeared they spoke in line with the rest of scriptureand the book of Mormon along with the other two books are 'another gospel' DAVEH: Does that mean you have read the BofM, Judy? Or are you basing your opinion on what you've heard from

RE: [TruthTalk] Baptism

2003-12-09 Thread David Miller
Gary wrote: it's JC who saves people, by faith, through the HS--baptism per se has nothin' to do with it JESUS SAVES. And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS: for he shall save his people from their sins. (Matthew 1:21 KJV) THE HOLY SPIRIT SAVES: ... God hath from

RE: [TruthTalk] Another Jesus and a different spirit ...

2003-12-09 Thread David Miller
DAVEH: If you carefully read Isaiah's words, he is prophesying a specific instance of the sealed book being presented to two distinct people to be read. Suggesting that it is symbolic obfuscates the truth of what Isaiah is telling us. ... Lots of experts have poured over the Bible,

RE: [TruthTalk] The Value of Sin?

2003-12-09 Thread David Miller
Judy wrote: The thief went to Paradise with Jesus that very day ascended with the rest of the ppl in Abraham's bosom with Jesus when he ascended but he was in Paradise with him THAT DAY. What leads you to believe that those in Paradise ascended that day? Could it not be that he preached

Re: [TruthTalk] Courtesy of A.Word.A.Day

2003-12-09 Thread Kevin Deegan
WE MUST BECOME PERFECT NOW Christ became perfect through overcoming. Only as we overcome shall we become perfect and move toward godhood. As I have indicated previously, the time to do this is now, in mortality" The Miracle of Forgiveness Spencer W Kimball President Prophet p 210. WE MUST

RE: [TruthTalk] Two things

2003-12-09 Thread David Miller
TO DAVE HANSEN: Kevin raises an important question here. I hope you do not overlook it amongst your many emails. He quotes one of your apostles as saying: Now, obviously, the only way a dead people could speak 'out of the ground' or 'low out of the dust' would be by the written word, and this

RE: [TruthTalk] Baptism

2003-12-09 Thread ShieldsFamily
g, have you ever been baptized? If so, were you immersed? (Are you capable of answering these yes/no questions intelligibly?) Izzy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 11:16 PM To:

RE: [TruthTalk] The Value of Sin?

2003-12-09 Thread David Miller
David Miller wrote to Judy: What leads you to believe that those in Paradise ascended that day? Could it not be that he preached in the heart of the earth for three days, rose from the dead, then entered heaven and ministered in the temple there, then led Paradise to heaven at that time?

Re: [TruthTalk] Courtesy of A.Word.A.Day

2003-12-09 Thread Blaine R Borrowman
Dean wrote, "You have no respect to those who have the courage to actually fight the war you should be helping to fight." Dean (Carroll), you seem to have what amounts to an almost unshakable belief in your "war" against Mormonism. May I remind you that many Nazis had a similarly

Re: [TruthTalk] Baptism

2003-12-09 Thread ttxpress
On Tue, 9 Dec 2003 06:48:04 -0500 "David Miller" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:Garywrote:it's JC who saves people, by faith, through the HS--baptism per se has nothin' to do with it JESUS SAVES. "And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS: for he shall save his people

Re: [TruthTalk] Why we use temple garments

2003-12-09 Thread Blaine R Borrowman
Hi Kevin, Unfortunately I cannot in good conscience discuss the meanings of the markings in the locations you asked about. They obviously do have special meanings, and serve a purpose beyond covering nakedness. The best I can do is to say they are for reminding the wearerofkey

Re: [TruthTalk] The Value of Sin?

2003-12-09 Thread Blaine R Borrowman
Hi terry, I just HAD to butt in on your conversation with DavidH. You said, " If you know the truth, you will know a lie, even though you have not studied the lie." I am amazed you could write this contradiction. Are you sure this is what you meant? Shalom, BlaineRB

Re: [TruthTalk] TEST

2003-12-09 Thread Blaine R Borrowman
On Sat, 6 Dec 2003 22:08:01 -0600 "Terry Clifton" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Your attention please. This is a test on your knowledge of what the Bible says about the birth of our savior. You must answer at least one hundred and seventeen percent of these questions correctly, or lose

Re: **Possible_Spam** Re: [TruthTalk] The Value of Sin?

2003-12-09 Thread Terry Clifton
To me, it seems obvious, so I sometimes do not use all the words that I should to convey my meaning to others. Take it like this. If you are the owner of an orange grove, you know what oranges look like, where they come from, how much a box of oranges weighs, sell for, etc. Now, if you were

Re: **Possible_Spam** Re: [TruthTalk] TEST

2003-12-09 Thread Terry Clifton
Way to go Blaine. You are one of the few to know the truth about the wise men. Almost everyone believes that there were three and that they came to the stable when Jesus was born. The only question you missed was number four. When Mary brought her offering (Luke 2:23-24), she brought two

Re: [TruthTalk] TEST

2003-12-09 Thread Charles Perry Locke
Blaine, can I get a scripture reference for your parenthetical comment on the answer to question 9? Thanks, Perry From: Blaine R Borrowman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] TEST Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 12:14:53 -0700 On Sat, 6

Re: [TruthTalk] The Value of Sin?

2003-12-09 Thread Kevin Deegan
I believe He was trying to say If you know the truth You will be able to identify error (or lies) by comparing it to the real McCoy I have heard it said that Bank employees Treasury agents do not take a class in Identifying, Forgery or Counterfieting. They are so familiar with the real thing,

[TruthTalk] The Value of Sin?

2003-12-09 Thread jandgtaylor1
David Miller wrote to Judy: What leads you to believe that those in Paradise ascended that day? Could it not be that he preached in the heart of the earth for three days, rose from the dead, then entered heaven and ministered in the temple there, then led Paradise to heaven at that time?

Re: [TruthTalk] Christmas Trees

2003-12-09 Thread ttxpress
'pagan' = 'wrong'? how so? On Sat, 6 Dec 2003 20:00:09 EST [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Do you really think that what is |pagan| for some may not be |pagan| for others??? YES On Tue, 9 Dec 2003 08:15:01 EST [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ..if a person thinks it is |wrong|

RE: [TruthTalk] The Value of Sin?

2003-12-09 Thread David Miller
Judy wrote: You are accusing me of writing something I never wrote. Sorry, Judy, but I wasn't accusing you of anything. I apparently misunderstood you and so I asked for you to clarify your understanding. You had written the following: The thief went to Paradise with Jesus that very day

Re: [TruthTalk] Courtesy of A.Word.A.Day

2003-12-09 Thread Blaine R Borrowman
BlaineRB: The explanation furnished by DavidH below is 100% accurate as far as Mormon beliefs and teachings are concerned. It is the truth. I applaud David for explaining it. Mormons believe in salvation for all if by salvation we mean being resurrected and becoming immortal. But to reside

Re: [TruthTalk] TEST

2003-12-09 Thread Blaine R Borrowman
Charles, The parenthetical remark is from the writings of Joseph Smith, so unless you believe in latter day revelation, sorry, no scripture is available. Joseph Smith also indicated that Michael, the archangel, is AKA Adam, the first man. If I am not mistaken, he likewiseindicated who the

RE: [TruthTalk] TEST

2003-12-09 Thread ShieldsFamily
Terry, I must have missed it; which scripture says Mary and Joseph were poor? Izzy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Blaine R Borrowman Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 1:15 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] TEST

Re: [TruthTalk] TEST

2003-12-09 Thread Terry Clifton
Luke 2:24 and Lev.12:6-8 TEST Terry, I must have missed it; which scripture says Mary and Joseph were poor? Izzy

Re: [TruthTalk] The Value of Sin?

2003-12-09 Thread Kevin Deegan
judgment follows death by some time Do you believe in a Mormon purgatory? Are you guys general Authorities? The prophets words are scripture. He does not have to say "thus saith the Lord" The Prophet Spencer W Kimball said "Christ became perfect through overcoming. Only as we overcome shall we

Re: [TruthTalk] Courtesy of A.Word.A.Day

2003-12-09 Thread Blaine R Borrowman
BlaineRB: Thank you Kevin, fortaking the time to write the entire BoM passage dealing with this subject. I didn't realize there was anyone on TT who knew of it. I guess I was trying to be easy on you guys, telling them there is just mental anguish, which was just asimplified way of talking