Re: [TruthTalk] TT w/o a moderator

2006-03-28 Thread David Miller
with you richly, David Miller - Original Message - From: Dave Hansen To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 3:12 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] TT w/o a moderator DAVEH: Yikes.can I really be in agreement with Kevin??? If you decide to go that route for awhile

Re: [TruthTalk] Saying Goodbye

2006-03-27 Thread David Miller
voice of reason when things became tumultuous. Terry had a knack for being understanding yet unswayed away from the Biblical no-nonsense perspective of truth. More to come later... David Miller -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought

Re: [TruthTalk] Saying Goodbye

2006-03-27 Thread David Miller
of me, but I know that whatever I do, a piece of everyone who has been on TruthTalk will be with me. Thank you all. I hope everyone will feel comfortable writing me from time to time, as the good Lord leads you. Peace be with you, David Miller. -- Let your speech be always with grace

Re: [TruthTalk] Saying Goodbye

2006-03-26 Thread David Miller
you. I will continue to pray for you. Surely you are ingrained in your religion and your relationships in your religion will likely keep you there, but I will continue to pray that the Lord open your eyes to the true nature of his church. David Miller - Original Message - From

Re: [TruthTalk] Saying Goodbye

2006-03-26 Thread David Miller
posting dialogue and to say their goodbyes, so I will finish mine as soon as I can and then take down the list. God bless you all. My prayers are with you Lance and your mother during this time. Please let us know if she was a believer in Jesus Christ. Thanks. David Miller -- Let your

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-24 Thread David Miller
scientifically testable, have had to agree with me that I was right, after MUCH arguing, but they will only concede that every Creationist model of origins that is scientifically testable has already been falsified. The ones that have not been falsified are still unscientific. Go figure. David Miller

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-24 Thread David Miller
being dealt with in the same way? David Miller - Original Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Friday, March 24, 2006 4:30 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism You may feel to teach them that the universe

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-24 Thread David Miller
this prediction? David Miller - Original Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Friday, March 24, 2006 4:44 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism Interpretation/interpolation/speculation re:Genesis leads one

Re: [TruthTalk] on Creationism

2006-03-24 Thread David Miller
else. The liberty of the teacher should be allowed, whether we trust the teacher or not. Our ability to communicate with the teacher should be enough to help curb any undesirablebehavior. I favor communication and persuasion over censorship. How about you? David Miller - Original

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-24 Thread David Miller
materialized until everyone was forced to pay for it through taxation, through the efforts of menlike Horace Mann. Mann converted from Calvinism to the Unitarian church. David Miller - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org ; TruthTalk

Re: [TruthTalk] Dominion

2006-03-24 Thread David Miller
I have seen NOBODY on TruthTalk express the theology of Gary North. You guys sound to me like the way you hearJudy talking authoritatively about Torrance. :-) It is obvious that you do not understand the theology of North and others on TruthTalk. David Miller - Original Message

[TruthTalk] Saying Goodbye

2006-03-24 Thread David Miller
outside of my realm of study. In some future posts, I will discuss some of the members of TruthTalk who have most impacted me and how they influenced me. David Miller -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man

Re: [TruthTalk] on Creationism

2006-03-23 Thread David Miller
Lance wrote: There are as many 'species' of creationists as fish. The same can be said for evolutionists. So what is your point? David Miller - Original Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 7:02 AM

Re: [TruthTalk] on Creationism

2006-03-23 Thread David Miller
ducational system. There are numerous models of evolution as well. The premise by which you think you can rest your case is ratherelusive. David Miller - Original Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 1:09 PM S

Re: [TruthTalk] on Creationism

2006-03-23 Thread David Miller
rejected by science. So the Fundies are not hindering creationism in schools. Scientists are. Are you really blind to this fact? David Miller - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org ; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Thursday, March

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-23 Thread David Miller
not hear both of these reactions. David Miller -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man. (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-23 Thread David Miller
Are you mocking the concept that God created the world through faith and speaking? What does how long it takes for him to speak words have to do with how long it took for the world to come into being? I don't understand your point. David Miller - Original Message - From

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-23 Thread David Miller
Actually, there is some good stuff that comes from ICR too. As I said before, they serve a function in our society which I think is good.If I'm not too embarrassed to read Lance Muir, I will not be too embarrassed to read ICR approved material. :-) David Miller - Original Message

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-23 Thread David Miller
, it infects the whole group. So I prefer the concept of believing in fundamental Christianity but not believing in fundamentalism. David Miller - Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 4:31 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw

Re: [TruthTalk] Henry Morris

2006-03-23 Thread David Miller
organization in approving of certain people and disapproving of others. This is not to say that everything they do is bad. On the contrary, they have made good contributions to the subject. From the perspective of science, however, it is a lot of religion to wade through. David Miller

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-23 Thread David Miller
Good. Please write me with a review when you have done so. I would be interested in how a theistic evolutionist would consider this information. David Miller - Original Message - From: Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 3:16

Re: [TruthTalk] Is the day in Genesis literal or figurative?

2006-03-23 Thread David Miller
to realize how bad I am at communicating. David Miller - Original Message - From: Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 3:15 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Is the day in Genesis literal or figurative? I do know this Iz, that my

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-23 Thread David Miller
The CNN report: Asked if creationism should be taught in schools, Williams said: I don't think it should, actually. No, no. So how have I mischaracterized him? David Miller - Original Message - From: Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Wednesday, March

Re: [TruthTalk] Carl Baugh

2006-03-23 Thread David Miller
mistake and have discounted his entire work because of it. The jury is still open for me on this matter, because I have seen the bias of scientists first hand. David Miller - Original Message - From: Dave Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Monday

Re: [TruthTalk] Lance, TFT, Promises etc

2006-03-23 Thread David Miller
Thank you, Judy, for being perceptive and understanding me. David Miller - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 10:35 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Lance, TFT, Promises etc Then I suggest

Re: [TruthTalk] on Creationism

2006-03-23 Thread David Miller
and human origins. In other words,the scientific establishmentloves guys like R. Williams who help them keep the acknowledgement of God out of the classroom. David Miller - Original Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Thursday, March 23

Re: [TruthTalk] on Creationism

2006-03-23 Thread David Miller
and rhetoric to prevent the other side from being heard. David Miller - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org ; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 3:50 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] on Creationism And who

Re: [TruthTalk] on Creationism

2006-03-23 Thread David Miller
creationscience in schools.I have known many high school teachers that would not have the problem that you outline below. David Miller - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org ; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Thursday, March 23

Re: [TruthTalk] Is the day in Genesis literal or figurative?

2006-03-23 Thread David Miller
Interesting. I think I hear much, much better than I articulate. In fact, I'm sure of it. David Miller - Original Message - From: Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 4:30 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Is the day in Genesis literal

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-23 Thread David Miller
Do you think it should be illegal to teach in schools, or do you just think it is good advice not to mention the Creator in schools? David Miller - Original Message - From: Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 4:32 PM Subject: Re

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-23 Thread David Miller
and water to do what he said.He also may have been involved in other ways that we don't understand right now. Do you see it differently? It does not have anything to do with resting for the next day. David Miller - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk

Re: [TruthTalk] Carl Baugh

2006-03-23 Thread David Miller
, I have to be right if I'm disagreeing with the establishment. They only have to tote the party line, and that reinforces their bias. David Miller - Original Message - From: Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 4:35 PM Subject: Re

Re: [TruthTalk] Modalism the RESTORATION

2006-03-22 Thread David Miller
remembers that discussion. It was all a very fascinating historical discussion. As you know, Joseph Smith adopted Campbell's label of Church of Christ originally. David Miller - Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Tuesday, March 21

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-22 Thread David Miller
this or that you would defend this Bishop. Deception is the only word for it. David Miller - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org ; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 8:27 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw

Re: [TruthTalk] Physics, Astronomy and Genesis chapters 1-11

2006-03-22 Thread David Miller
of ending and without consuming that which itengulfs. Does this help you understand the logic any better? David Miller - Original Message - From: Dave Hansen To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 2:03 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Physics

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-22 Thread David Miller
David Miller wrote: I hate it when theologians are embarrassed of giving glory to the Creator in school. Lance wrote: You do KNOW, do you not David, that that's NOT the source of his embarrassment? Rowan Williams is not embarrassed concerning our Lord ANYWHERE. He, not unlike many

Re: [TruthTalk] Is the day in Genesis literal or figurative?

2006-03-22 Thread David Miller
that? David Miller - Original Message - From: Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 7:34 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Is the day in Genesis literal or figurative? David:'PROVEN'? 'ERROR' In the light of 'orthodox' thought concerning

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-22 Thread David Miller
the dogma that the mention of a Creator or models that involve a Creator should not be taught in school. All their rhetoric about the compatibility of faith and science doesn't mean much at all if they affirm this idea that the Creator should be ignored in the study of science. David Miller

Re: [TruthTalk] Is the day in Genesis literal or figurative?

2006-03-22 Thread David Miller
of Scripture. Your biggest mantra is, nobody knows the truth! From your perspective, we all speculate and sometimes we accidentally overlap with truth and sometimes we don't. David Miller - Original Message - From: Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Wednesday

Re: [TruthTalk] Physics, Astronomy and Genesis chapters 1-11

2006-03-22 Thread David Miller
Lance wrote: Do you truly believe (of course you do) that your logic, the logic of Scripture and God's logic are all the same Of course! Logic is logic, whether it is employed by Scripture, by God, or by me. The logic is all the same. David Miller -- Let your speech be always

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-22 Thread David Miller
are incompatible is expected from scientists but not from theologians, and certainly not from the Right Reverend Doctor Rowland Williams, Archbishop of Canterbury. David Miller -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man

Re: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: Purim 2006-Not All Authority is Bad

2006-03-22 Thread David Miller
Sadly, Lance, you do not see that you are the one who offers only a harumph. Kevin presented actual evidence for consideration. David Miller - Original Message - From: Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 7:42 AM Subject: Re

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-22 Thread David Miller
Lance wrote: Fundamental Christianity is [fine]... FundamentalISM ought not be believed by anyone. FWIW: I can appreciate this distinction Lance makes. David Miller -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-22 Thread David Miller
Lance wrote: One's time would be better spent reading some noteworthy novelists than noteworthy creationists. Lift up Jesus and, creationISM, will fall away as it should. I can't say that I agree with you here. Have you read Creation's Tiny Mystery, by Robert Gentry? David Miller

Re: [TruthTalk] Is the day in Genesis literal or figurative?

2006-03-22 Thread David Miller
. I don't believe that is true about anybody. David Miller Too tired with being misunderstood to continue... -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man. (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want

Re: [TruthTalk] Ruddy faced sheppard opresses Giant!

2006-03-22 Thread David Miller
Excellent point again, Kevin. Stand by for the "harumph" in spite of all the evidence. David Miller - Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 12:24 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] R

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-22 Thread David Miller
David Miller wrote: Have you read Creation's Tiny Mystery, by Robert Gentry? Lance wrote: No, I've not but, what would I learn were I to do so, David? I'm glad you asked. There are several things you would learn: 1. You would learn about the evidence for polonium halos indicating

Re: [TruthTalk] Ruddy faced sheppard opresses Giant!

2006-03-22 Thread David Miller
There were many years of TruthTalk without Lance and JD. No, it was not a lot of backslapping. David Miller - Original Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 1:27 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Ruddy faced sheppard opresses Giant

Re: [TruthTalk] Physics, Astronomy and Genesis chapters 1-11

2006-03-21 Thread David Miller
, when I climbed Mount Sinai, they have a rock there with black magnesium deposits that make it look like a bush was burned into the rocks. The guide there tells everyone that it is the burning bush of Moses. :-) David Miller - Original Message - From: Dave Hansen To: TruthTalk

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-21 Thread David Miller
Yup is right, but how does he get from this thought to the idea that creationism should not be considered in schools? I hate it when theologians are embarassed of giving glory to the Creator in school. David Miller - Original Message - From: Debbie Sawczak To: 'Lance Muir' Sent

Re: [TruthTalk] Is the day in Genesis literal or figurative?

2006-03-21 Thread David Miller
Excuse me, John, but nobody has proven that modalism is an error, so how can you use the word repent in regards to this? Do you really think it is a sin for someone to think modalism is useful in understanding the Godhead? David Miller - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [TruthTalk] Is the day in Genesis literal or figurative?

2006-03-21 Thread David Miller
The four disagreed on The Faith? How so? David Miller - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org ; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 8:48 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Is the day in Genesis literal or figurative? 1. Faith

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-21 Thread David Miller
of Canterbury who are doing this. David Miller

Re: [TruthTalk] Modalism the RESTORATION

2006-03-21 Thread David Miller
This is interesting, Kevin. The LDS believes in henotheism (a type of polytheism) and modalism at the same time? How can this be? DaveH, please let us know your thoughts about this. David Miller - Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk

Re: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: Purim 2006-Not All Authority is Bad

2006-03-21 Thread David Miller
ROTFLOL. Good point, Kevin. David Miller - Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 5:05 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: Purim 2006-Not All Authority is Bad Lance says

Re: [TruthTalk] Is the day in Genesis literal or figurative?

2006-03-21 Thread David Miller
Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Excuse me, John, but nobody has proven that modalism is an error, so how can you use the word repent in regards to this? Do you really think it is a sin for someone to think modalism is useful in understanding the Godhead? David Miller - Original

[TruthTalk] The week winds down...

2006-03-21 Thread David Miller
about two days before I take down the list (probably around Thursday or Friday)so that you can say your final good byes. David Miller

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] torrance and logic

2006-03-20 Thread David Miller
last statement is the only thing where I have some disagreement. I just don't think your word illogical is appropriate. What we might say is that when we don't have all the facts, then knowing God by logic alone is not possible. David Miller p.s. I was very disappointed to see Debbie and Lance

Re: [TruthTalk] Hell BoM

2006-03-19 Thread David Miller
David Miller wrote: Do you ever warn people about the FIRE of hell? DAVEH wrote: No, I don't do much preaching, and when I doI prefer to be more positive in my approach. I guess the LDS organization has not restored the church then, eh? You are not doing what the early church did

Re: [TruthTalk] Physics, Astronomy and Genesis chapters 1-11

2006-03-19 Thread David Miller
agree" or "disagree" please? 1. Jesus said, "I am Truth." 2. Jesus is Truth. 3. Truth is Jesus. David Miller - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 4:31 AM Subject: Re: [Tr

Re: [TruthTalk] Physics, Astronomy and Genesis chapters 1-11

2006-03-19 Thread David Miller
Judy, I'm scratching my head on this one. I think maybe you might understand the response better than me. David Miller - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 5:41

Re: [TruthTalk] Hell BoM

2006-03-19 Thread David Miller
commandments and you think everyone transgresses his commandments, not only are you wrong, but your eternal fate is in the balance. The judgment of hell fire is at your door despite your perspective of the Incarnation of Jesus Christ. David Miller -- Let your speech be always

Re: [TruthTalk] Is the day in Genesis literal or figurative?

2006-03-19 Thread David Miller
is just a cop out, in my opinion. It is just as bad as the Creationist who uses the cop out explanation for an observation, God did it to stop further research and investigation. The truth is not afraid of logical thinking, nor does it contradict logic at any time. David Miller -- Let your

Re: [TruthTalk] Hell BoM

2006-03-19 Thread David Miller
spirit as they did. David Miller - Original Message - From: Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 7:29 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Hell BoM You, David, may be DOING what the early church DID without MEANING what the early church MEANT

Re: [TruthTalk] Hell BoM

2006-03-19 Thread David Miller
making erroneous judgments about me. David Miller - Original Message - From: Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 8:00 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Hell BoM I have read all of these passages numerous times. Yes, I do read the Bible

Re: [TruthTalk] Is the day in Genesis literal or figurative?

2006-03-19 Thread David Miller
that you are not hearing me in this last post. I make some subtle distinctions that would help you understand me better if you would take the time to hear them. David Miller - Original Message - From: Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Sunday, March 19

Re: [TruthTalk] Hell BoM

2006-03-19 Thread David Miller
expressed against concepts like rationalism and dualism and reductionism etc. You seem to try and operate in line with those biases without really understanding the reasoning behind the criticisms leveled against the ideas expressed by these words. David Miller - Original Message - From

Re: [TruthTalk] Hell BoM

2006-03-19 Thread David Miller
it. At this same time, Dean sent me a post complaining about my testimony concerning childbearing, not using doctors and believing God for painless childbirth. I don't know if I will ever understand how others cannot simply rejoice with me when God is so good. David Miller - Original Message

Re: [TruthTalk] Lance, TFT, Promises etc

2006-03-19 Thread David Miller
God's Word and what you quote above. Is there anybody on this list who does not see this conflict? If so, I will elaborate as time permits. David Miller -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man. (Colossians 4:6

Re: [TruthTalk] Is Jesus Christ Truth?

2006-03-18 Thread David Miller
whether you agree or disagree with the following statements. 1. God is love. 2. Love is God. Thank you. After I see what your position is, I will have some other questions. David Miller. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Friday, March

Re: [TruthTalk] Physics, Astronomy and Genesis chapters 1-11

2006-03-18 Thread David Miller
., while my knowledge might be greater than many believers in many of these areas, I expect a lot of hearty amens as opposed to suspicion and disagreement. David Miller - Original Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2006 8:10 AM Subject: Re

[TruthTalk] ** Moderator Comment **

2006-03-18 Thread David Miller
the list. David Miller TruthTalk Moderator p.s. Do not reply to this post on the list, please. Off list e-mail on this topic is welcome. - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Saturday, March

Re: [TruthTalk] Physics, Astronomy and Genesis chapters 1-11

2006-03-18 Thread David Miller
, and if necessary, I can post clarification to the list in a single post. I don't want an extended thread on this subject. David Miller p.s. Judy could learn to express herself differently, in a more respectful way, and I have made efforts to talk with her about it off the list. Part of the problem

Re: [TruthTalk] torrance

2006-03-18 Thread David Miller
is more informed about Torrance than Judy is. David Miller -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man. (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email

[TruthTalk] Is the day in Genesis literal or figurative?

2006-03-18 Thread David Miller
would be the reasons to view the day figuratively in Genesis 1? David Miller -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man. (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list

Re: [TruthTalk] Is the day in Genesis literal or figurative?

2006-03-18 Thread David Miller
to Genesis 1. Do you see it different? Is there any way to argue directly from the text (any thing in the Bible anywhere) for a very long process of creation? David Miller John, I have a couple questions for you. 1. Have you ever read John Whitcomb's theological treatment

Re: [TruthTalk] Is the day in Genesis literal or figurative?

2006-03-18 Thread David Miller
is define Biblical study as exclusionary of science. I strongly disagree. David Miller - Original Message - From: Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2006 2:33 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Is the day in Genesis literal or figurative

Re: [TruthTalk] Hell BoM

2006-03-18 Thread David Miller
the danger of transgressing the commandments of God? David Miller - Original Message - From: Dave To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2006 2:34 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Hell BoM I did think from previous encounters that you believed there was no literal Hell

Re: [TruthTalk] Is the day in Genesis literal or figurative?

2006-03-18 Thread David Miller
of millions of years. Was he trying to be mysterious or ambiguous in your opinion? David Miller -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man. (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from

Re: [TruthTalk] Is Truth Knowable?

2006-03-17 Thread David Miller
man discerns all things yet he himself is discerned of no one. David Miller - Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Friday, March 17, 2006 12:17 AM Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Is Truth Knowable? Lance, in all kindness may I submit

[TruthTalk] Creationism

2006-03-17 Thread David Miller
with this statement? David Miller -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man. (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you

Re: [TruthTalk] Hell BoM

2006-03-17 Thread David Miller
Kevin wrote: Then according to your own book you have been decieved by the Devil into thinking there is No literal Hell Hi Kevin. Why exactly are you convinced that there is a literal hell? Can you present an argument for a literal hell for us? David Miller -- Let your speech

Re: [TruthTalk] Physics, Astronomy and Genesis chapters 1-11

2006-03-17 Thread David Miller
DaveH, I agree with Judy here. The argument of a literal impossibility is a little weak when we are talking about God. Moses did see a bush that was burning but not consumed. Doesn't that teach us something about God's abilities of creating an unquenchable fire? David Miller - Original

[TruthTalk] ** Moderator Comment **

2006-03-17 Thread David Miller
for your consideration to this matter. David Miller TruthTalk Moderator

Re: [TruthTalk] Physics, Astronomy and Genesis chapters 1-11

2006-03-17 Thread David Miller
and universe is old, but life on earth is of relatively recent origin. David Miller -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man. (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list

[TruthTalk] Is Jesus Christ Truth?

2006-03-17 Thread David Miller
in the Lord. One last consideration. Jesus Christ is the logos. Is it not also true that the logos is Jesus Christ? Help me out here Gary. Where's your beef? Peace be with you. David Miller. -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you

[TruthTalk] The Future of TruthTalk

2006-03-17 Thread David Miller
at the end of the week or if there is some other drastic change that happens with the list. God bless you all, David Miller

Re: [TruthTalk] Is Truth Knowable?

2006-03-16 Thread David Miller
of that person. Have you ever noticed that? David Miller - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 3:02 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Is Truth Knowable? The thing Paul is against is being a know it all

Re: Fw: Fw: [TruthTalk] Comfort the FORNICATORS!

2006-03-16 Thread David Miller
it differently? David Miller p.s. I have eaten with ignorant Christian fornicators many times and will continue to do so, but it is because of their ignorance. There are others that know better with whom I have had to carry the cross and cut them off, even a family member ala Luke 14:26

[TruthTalk] The relationship of sin and believers.

2006-03-16 Thread David Miller
not (1 John 5:18). Who is he that is born of God? Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God (1 John 5:1). Notice it does not say, whosoever believeth the doctrine of the Trinity is born of God. David Miller -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned

Re: [TruthTalk] Is Truth Knowable?

2006-03-16 Thread David Miller
. What do you think? David Miller. - Original Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 8:12 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Is Truth Knowable? 'ALL WHO ARE TAUGHT BY GOD WILL SAY THE SAME THING ABOUT GENESIS CHAPTERS 1 - 11' Have we just been

[TruthTalk] ** Moderator Comment **

2006-03-16 Thread David Miller
Christ but falls short? David Miller TruthTalk Moderator - Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 10:35 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Comfort the FORNICATORS! Apparently you can not control yourself

Re: [TruthTalk] Is Truth Knowable?

2006-03-16 Thread David Miller
of truth that might coincide with the Biblical text. However, I always distinguish between such speculation and knowledge that comes from the Spirit or knowledge that is directly being communicated by the sacred text. David Miller - Original Message - From: Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: Fw: Fw: [TruthTalk] Comfort the FORNICATORS!

2006-03-16 Thread David Miller
to the age now where God is expecting her to exercise her own faith. I'm hoping she ditches the wrist support and I will hear her praise report tonight. David Miller - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 11:34

Re: [TruthTalk] The gates of hell?

2006-03-16 Thread David Miller
for the church. The church brings resurrection life and righteousness and joy, just the opposite of what hell is all about. David Miller - Original Message - From: Dave Hansen To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 10:12 AM Subject: [TruthTalk] The gates of hell

Re: [TruthTalk] Love and fear

2006-03-16 Thread David Miller
or bad. (11) Knowing therefore the terror of the Lord, we persuade men; but we are made manifest unto God; and I trust also are made manifest in your consciences. David Miller -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every

Re: [TruthTalk] Hello

2006-03-16 Thread David Miller
Hi Conor. Welcome to TruthTalk. Thanks for sharing about yourself. You mentioned that you were raised Catholic. Are you Catholic now? Are you able to share the Catholic perspective with us on issues? David Miller. -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: excerpt redux

2006-03-15 Thread David Miller
, that I can say that I love the person who calls himself a homosexual because of the present philosophy in the world today, but hate the sin of homosexuality and call upon him to forsake it and abandon it. David Miller. - Original Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org

Re: [TruthTalk] Copyright Question

2006-03-15 Thread David Miller
at whether or not any damage is done to the author when copying his material. David Miller -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man. (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from

[TruthTalk] The Secular versus the Religious

2006-03-15 Thread David Miller
h freedom do we have as Christians to choose one over the other? David Miller.

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