David Miller wrote:
DAVEH:
> As I see it, if something is missing (viz., the doctrinal explanation
> whether or not baptism of infants is necessary) and different sects
> create their own man made doctrine to make up for that 'inadequacy',
> then it is the missing stuff that allows Satan to
In a message dated 10/15/2002 12:19:32 AM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Adam and Eve were given
the same test. They were commanded to multiply and replenish the earth,
yet were also commanded not to partake of the tree of knowledge of good
and evil. There was simply no way
In a message dated 10/15/2002 12:19:32 AM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On the other hand, his wife and others
were not as full of faith as he was, so he knew they would have a
difficult time accepting his going forward with keeping this new
commandment.
So if one partner is
Glenn - Your question makes no sense to me? You can trust in the Mormon walk, I will trust in Jesus. I have no backup plan.
DAVEH: Glenn.have you ever considered that Jesus may show you the way to heaven, but you have to walk the path he provided? Do you think the Lord will drag you to
Glenn wrote:
No way. This perfection doctrine has you blinded.
As I have said before, works nullify grace.
This is not a Biblical statement. The Bible teaches that TRUSTING IN WORKS
nullifies grace. It does not teach that works nullify grace. If it did,
then all the righteous men from
WRONG. I just read your BoM. You are changing the BoM. I have noticed how Mormons deny their doctrines and have changed their doctrines through the years. Mormons sure used to be anti-Negro.
DAVEH: Again..Let's get this straight, DavidM. It was YOU and Glenn who have inferred that it is the
Blainer wrote:
I ... came across an exellent summary of BH Roberts
life in the Introduction to his book, Studies of the Book
of Mormon.. Some of your questions are answered
there.
www.lds-mormon.com/roberts.shtml
Wow! I thought you were against anti-Mormon sites. So here is an article
on
Blainer wrote:
You quoted from some other writings--BH Robert--
Studies of the Book Of Mormon. I have doubts that
you quoted in context--and even if you did report the
full meaning of what was being offered, it at least supports
my belief that BH Roberts was capable of honestly
reflecting
From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Laura wrote:
So Glenn, You are saying that faith alone
is enough but that works are an evidence
of this faith - Right??
But faith alone is not what the Bible teaches. The Bible teaches that
justification is of faith, NOT OF WORKS. It
Blainer wrote:
Why were Joseph Smith's enemies always such
a bunch of low-lifes?
David Miller wrote:
This statement is completely irresponsible.
Were there low-lifes that were against Joseph
Smith? Sure, but were all of his enemies low-lifes?
Of course not. Just one example: Alexander
On the contrary, Glenn, I agree completely with
Michael's statement and believe it. I teach it that way all the
time.
Peace be with you.David Miller.
- Original Message -
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 11:32
AM
OK, then agreed.
On the contrary, Glenn, I agree completely with Michael's statement and believe it. I teach it that way all the time.
Peace be with you.
David Miller.
Glenn wrote:
No way. This perfection doctrine has you blinded.
As I have said before, works nullify grace
This is not a Biblical statement. The Bible teaches that TRUSTING IN WORKS
nullifies grace. It does not teach that works nullify grace. If it did,
then all the righteous men from Abraham
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Glenn wrote:
No way. This perfection doctrine has you blinded.
As I have said before, works nullify grace
This is not a Biblical statement. The Bible teaches that TRUSTING IN WORKS
nullifies grace. It does not teach that works nullify grace. If it
Christian living is perfected by works. Salvation is not of works. Salvation is not perfected by works. I gave the Bible for this when I answered the true or false test.
Back to the Bible. The Bible teaches that faith, which is a work of grace
in our lives, is PERFECTED by works, NOT
Michael D: Just a couple observations/questions to ponder here, guys:
1. I would think that ...Be ye prefect as your Father which in heaven is perfect... is an injunction not a definition. The question to me is what is perfection? A clear definition (based on scripture) might help there.
Again, you have made my point. No one is perfect as Jesus was perfect.
Read what I wrote again. Notice the *IF*. You are taking this way too
personal. I said, "*IF* you think you, NOT BEING PERFECT, are able to judge
who is perfect." I'm not judging you either way. I'm saying that if you or
PREI was taught that imputed righteousness means that we receive the
righteousness of Christ because we can't possible be completely righteous on
our own. Laura
--
Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you
ought to answer every man.
Laura wrote:
I was taught that imputed righteousness means that
we receive the righteousness of Christ because we
can't possible be completely righteous on our own.
Right, but that imputed righteousness is not like some placard that you hold
up and trick God into thinking you are perfect when
I agree Laura
Laura wrote:
I was taught that imputed righteousness means that
we receive the righteousness of Christ because we
can't possible be completely righteous on our own.
Right, but that imputed righteousness is not like some placard that you hold
up and trick God into thinking you
Glenn wrote:
No one is perfect as Jesus was perfect.
That is your opinion, but the Bible disagrees with you.
Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is
righteous, even as he is righteous. (1 John 3:7)
I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; YET NOT I, BUT
The verses you are using you are misusing.
Glenn wrote:
No one is perfect as Jesus was perfect.
That is your opinion, but the Bible disagrees with you.
"Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is
righteous, even as he is righteous." (1 John 3:7)
"I am crucified
INothing we can do makes us righteous. We are righteous because we are justified by faith in Christ Jesus. Works don't justify BUT the justified man works. I read that the other day and it made sense to me. Laura
Glenn wrote:
No one is perfect as Jesus was perfect.
That is your opinion, but the
Laura wrote:
Nothing we can do makes us righteous. We are
righteous because we are justified by faith in Christ
Jesus. Works don't justify BUT the justified man
works. I read that the other day and it made sense
to me.
Amen. This is a good way to say it too.
Peace be with you.
The Holms belong to the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of
Latter Day Saints, whose members openly practice plural marriage.
http://www.denverpost.com/Stories/0,1413,36%257E23827%257E925416%257E,00.html
gary ottoson **
aa1ozg.com
Glenn wrote:
The verses you are using you are misusing.
No, I am not misusing them. Read the whole epistle of 1 John and believe
it.
Glenn wrote:
No one is perfect as Jesus was perfect.
Let's look at the first verse that I quoted:
Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth
Glenn wrote:
You're playing the word game here.
You knew full well I was talking about
adults.
I'm not playing any word game at all. This was revealed to me by the Holy
Spirit. Jesus grew and learned obedience through the things that he
suffered. Yet we call him perfect. Why is that?
On Sun, 6 Oct 2002 22:25:40 -0600
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Blainer) I hate to say
this..This is the stuff of hatred.
10/15 g:
roflx666!!!
for reference:
On Sat, 5 Oct 2002 13:05:20 -0600
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:Satan and JC *arenot/never will* be
'brothers'--it's simply
not
28 matches
Mail list logo