[tslug] FSCK wearz
ThinkGeek and that other place are lame. Use the source, Luke. Vote for your favorite fsck wearz: My vote: http://www.cafepress.com/fsck_8.13343956 View The Full Mounty: http://www.cafepress.com/fsck_8 You all are a bunch of sick fsckers! /me ducks
[fsck] Re: [tslug] Man page question and Re: Re: T-shirt
Joshua Barnickol wrote .. I can't get apropos to work. When I use man with the -k switch, (or apropos) as in 'man -k string' I always get 'nothing appropriate' In addition to 'mandb', which is used by RedHat and similar systems, but not by Debian (and possibly Gentoo), you might need to install the 'makewhatis' package or tool. It basically builds a file in the MANPATH directories called 'windex' which is a compilation of the title lines from all of the manpages under that MANPATH root. windex is short for 'whatis index'. Oh, and it's usually installed in /usr/lib/makewhatis for some strange reason, and not in the usual /usr/bin, /bin, /sbin, or /usr/sbin. Check out if your system can invoke it automatically with the 'catman -w' command. Mike/
[tslug] Re: Lawn mowing.
I hope for Don's sake your notion of an irregularly mowed lawn is referring to the _schedule_ of mowing, and not the blade height or mowing paths. It's been years since the local lawn services got more than one out of three right when obtaining regular lawn service Mike/ Steve Olree wrote .. Assuming this was meant for anyone, and assuming you haven't already gotten someone to do it, I could use the money for mowing your lawn, either regularly or irregularly. Steve On Thursday 02 September 2004 04:34 pm, Donald J Bindner wrote: If you would like to earn money to buy computer equipment, I could use someone to mow my lawn. You don't even have to push. Don
[tslug] MDK 10 is out
Here's the lowdown on the various new MDK ISOs coming out. WRT to the recent conversation on mirroring, only the Download Edition is likely to be re-distributable. I will be able to know for sure when I finish using BT to get both the DL Edition, the PP Edition and the bonus CDs. The PP edition may have goodies like the ATI or nVidia drivers already built-in and ready-to-go on an install. Which doesn't matter to me, since I use Matrox. From the Mandrakelinux Community Newsletter, Issue #91 Friday, 23 April 2004: 10.0 Official -- Come and get it! Mandrakeclub members have been busy downloading Mandrakelinux 10.0 Official. Club members may choose from different download options depending upon membership level: - Standard Members and above: The Download Edition includes three Install CDs plus a fourth 'Extra applications' CD - Silver Members and above: The PowerPack CD ISO images includes three Install CDs plus two additional CDs of extra applications - Gold Members and above: The PowerPack+ CD ISO images includes three Install CDs plus four additional CDs of extra applications (including the Kolab groupware server) - Corporate Club members: The PowerPack DVD includes all applications on one convenient DVD disc Get busy downloading today: http://www.mandrakeclub.com/article.php?sid=1913 Plus: Standard level members receive an immediate 20% discount on the Mandrakelinux Discovery, PowerPack and PowerPack+ boxes at Mandrakestore; Silver levels and above enjoy an immediate 25% discount. Also: Commercial RPM packages -- including drivers, plugins and commercial RPMs available in the PowerPack -- are now online for club members. 10.0 'Community' users are urged to update their kernel to use the latest NVidia and ATI drivers as explained in the following article: http://www.mandrakeclub.com/article.php?sid=1745 Mike/ - http://www.valuenet.net - To get off this list, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with Subject: unsubscribe -
[tslug] Re: Meeting Tomorrow 2-24 VH1232
Ruby is an awesome programming language entirely built upon the
concept of objects. While I just was astounded and excited when learning
Perl (because of its many features OO concepts...
How disappointing. Perl certainly doesn't limit it's usefullness only to the
Object-oriented elite. IMHO, that makes Perl rock even more than Ruby.
Oh, and if you like some of that cool Ruby goodness, well, you can always just
install Simon Cozens' Rubyisms.pm module from CPAN.
See http://search.cpan.org/~simon/rubyisms-1.0/
And from http://search.cpan.org/src/SIMON/rubyisms-1.0/README we see...
NAME
rubyisms - Steal some features from Ruby
SYNOPSIS
package Foo;
use rubyisms;
sub initialize { # We inherit a new from class Class
self-{foo} = bar; # And we have a receiver, self
__private_stuff(1,2,3,4);
}
sub __private_stuff {
self-{things} = [ @_ ]; # self is still around
self-another_method;
}
sub my_method {
if ($interesting) { ... }
else { super } # Dispatch to superclass
}
sub array_iterator (@) {
yield() for @_;
}
array_iterator { print $_[0], \n } (Hello, World);
..
Hehe. Perl *rocks*. Ruby just *wishes* it could rock this hard. And wait 'til
Parrot/Ponie/Perl6 is out.
Oh, and Simon implemented *ALL* of the above in a mere 90 lines of Perl code.
If you _really_ want to learn about OO and even more ways in which Perl makes OO
easy where other languages hit the wall (e.g. closures and multiple
inheritance in Java), then you should get Damian Conway's book Object-Oriented
Perl (ISBN 188491 - http://www.manning.com/Conway/ ). Unbelievably lucid,
and it's no mistake that he used Perl to demonstrate these OO concepts.
The eat-your-brain explanation of Perl's tie feature is excellent.
He discusses multiple inheritance, data inheritance vs. interface inheritance,
closures, functions as objects, truly private data members, inheritance by
composition, and explores some of the dark corners of Perl's tie facility,
re-blessing objects, and more.
Mike/
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[tslug] Re: secure shell
Putty but a got a message: Access is deinied. Try using the '-v option'. You may want to install/use Cygwin as well. It provides a nice comfy bash, perl, ssh, and lots of other unix/linux-like utilities. Without leaving windows. You'll have to add the -v option on your putty invocation, unless you use the command-line version from cygwin. Mike/ - http://www.valuenet.net - To get off this list, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with Subject: unsubscribe -
[tslug] Re: IM poll
I want to know who supports which Instant Messenger protocols. Maybe name your first choice and then all the rest, or give a hierarchy, or whatever. That's what Jabber is for. Inter-IM-protocol gateway. Check it out. Mike/ - http://www.valuenet.net - To get off this list, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with Subject: unsubscribe -
[tslug] OT: whack a penguin
William wrote: My best ... OK, folks, the gloves are off. Post your high scores to... http://www.archlug.org/kwiki/Whack-A-Penguin Mike/ - http://www.valuenet.net - To get off this list, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with Subject: unsubscribe -
[tslug] Java OS?
http://jnode.sourceforge.net/screenshots.html Anyone else notice the absence of a org.jnode.shell.BogoMipsCommand screenshot? :=) Mike/ - http://www.valuenet.net - To get off this list, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with Subject: unsubscribe -
[tslug] Lifetime LindowsOS for $100
If you're at all interested in LindowsOS, this is a good deal. Lifetime Click'N'Run and updates for a one-time price. Not at all that bad a deal if you're a fan or contemplating LindowsOS for a distro. And the money goes to promoting/defending Linux in Sweden (Netherlands sold out). There's only about 150 of them left. http://www.choicepc.com/choicepc-sweden.php Mike/ - http://www.valuenet.net - To get off this list, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with Subject: unsubscribe -
[tslug] Re: Locally mirrored content.
Pretty much everyone who cares already knows that I keep a local Debian mirror (i386 only) at http://vh224401/debian/. This is visible to the internet as http://vh224401.truman.edu/ I would prefer to mirror those things that are going to pay off the best for Truman in terms of bandwidth. Since y'all are all on MOREnet, you might want to confer with the folks running mirrors on the down low over at the other universities with mirrors and don't overlap the mirroring (unless you want a local copy for network outage or latency reasons). Also, here's what MLUG has to say about their mirrors (which makes sense, in a goofy anti-theft of proprietary non-free software/media way (specifically Microsoft Windows and Microsoft Windows-based applications, and now MP3s and DVD rips): Due to bandwidth issues, there are no public Linux archives available on campus. However, a number of other Internet2 universities do host such archives, which means access times from campus are almost as good as a local mirror would be. I use http://mirror.cs.wisc.edu/pub/mirrors/linux/. Many other big-name .edu sites are likely to be on I2 as well -- just find a mirror listing (Red Hat's is a good start) and try a few sites. I did see that Mizzou gives each student 150MB of free webspace. Perhaps you can recruit fellow students (if Truman has a similar resource) with unused allocations to host various FLOSS (Free/Libre Open Source Software) pieces and software that fits within their allocation? I know there's some mirrors over at Mizzou. Just not advertised, maybe. The UMR (Rolla) mirrors I know about are at: http://ftp.umr.edu/pub/linux/ and currently has: DEB, kernel, LDP, MDK, RH7.2, RH7.3, RH9, and Ximian In addition, Steve and Kara Pritchard (http://www.kspei.com) have been hosting ftp://ftp.silug.org/ with a T1 - for years - (and nice mirrors of lots of stuff - Enlightenment, ALSA, DEB, FreshRPMs, GNU, KDE, kernel.org, linux.org, LTSP, MDK, MOZ, OpenOffice, QT, RedHat, UML, XFS, among others). They also host silug.org, luci.org, and archlug.org. And the respective ftp sites are virtuals of ftp.silug.org. (i.e. ftp.archlug.org == ftp.silug.org). Obviously, as a taxpayer, and MO taxpayer, I highly recommend using taxpayer-funded bandwidth to access software that is so educational, that not only can you actually get a copy of the source code, it doesn't cost you anything extra, and you can give away as many copies as you like, so that other people can learn from it too. Mike/ Don't be a sharecropper. - http://www.valuenet.net - To get off this list, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with Subject: unsubscribe -
[tslug] Free Linux stuff
A couple of notes from having been doing this for several years now... Adam and I will try to come up with a fair way to do so (maybe like a door prizes thing were everyone gets a number). A. Have a *numbered* attendance sign-up sheet. This does two things: 1. Tells you who and how many people attended. Add a column for email address for more fun. Add a Y/N column for first time for more fun. Add a Y/N column for mailing list sign-up for more fun. 2. Gives you a numbered list of attendees. B. Obtain a suitably random number among those on the signup sheet. C. That person wins the prize, and gets to pick the *NEXT* random number. D. Repeat. Give away prizes in *LEAST* valuable to *MOST* valuable order. E. Make your own free stuff - CDs of any distro you like. 1. Take requests. 2. Use CD-RW media and ask to recycle. 3. Using CD-RW media is useful for distro beta releases. P.S. If you can think of any other companies I can nag for free stuff, let me know. (OSDN, BSD?) Contact Kara Pritchard ([EMAIL PROTECTED]). Kara is in charge of the LPI's User Group Development initiative, has been running LUCI and SILUG with her husband Steven Pritchard for years, and knows *LOTS* of VIPs in these Linux and Open Source companies. They also host http://www.archlug.org/ for us down in Tha Lou, and generously provide numerous awesome mirrors (ftp://ftp.silug.org/) on a half-*terabyte* (500GB) of storage and a T1 to get it to you. You may also recognize her name on the older Red Hat Exam Cram book from the company formerly known as Coriolis. You may also see her name on the soon-to-be-released 2nd Edition of the LPI in a Nutshell book from the company still known as O'Reilly. Mike/ - http://www.valuenet.net - To get off this list, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with Subject: unsubscribe -
[tslug] Re: Legit Reviews
I want to know if it works without downloading drivers directly from the manufacturer. And if the drivers are free or non-free software or binary only. And if using the recommended drivers requires modifying your kernel, or if certain distributions include them for people who don't care to or aren't interested in recompiling their kernels and applying patches. And if the Linux drivers support the same features that drivers for other OSes do. And if not, which features are NOT implemented for Linux users. Mike/ - http://www.valuenet.net - To get off this list, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with Subject: unsubscribe -
[tslug] Re: Legit Reviews
Great, thanks for the feed back! I will talk to the site owner... However, if we pursue this, we will need to ask for someone's time to help us with these tests, or at least teach us how... currently none of us on the site are avid linux users... I am working a 6-month internship this semester in St. Louis.. otherwise I would be at the TSLUG meetings... I plan on attending the meetings again starting in January. There are several LUGs that meet in St. Louis. At least one a week. My personal favorite is ArchLUG (http://www.archlug.org/), but currently doesn't hold meetings, being a sort of meta-group right now and still in the process of forming. For meatspace meetings, my favorite is MOSLUG, but they just had their meeting last night - your timing is terrible! g In St. Charles, there's the STCLUG, and Hazelwood has a newbie LUG, HZLUG. The SILUG meetings in O'Fallon are nice too. Check http://groups.yahoo.com/group/stllug/cal for the details on a number of area LUGs, and sign up to the group if you want automatic email reminders. There's a List-O-Links there too. Mike/ - http://www.valuenet.net - To get off this list, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with Subject: unsubscribe -
[tslug] Re: How do I set up a LAN in a Linux computer?
Probably Lindows. Not bad, but Xandros would be a better choice. See why below. I have a dedicated Lindows computer -- now with a modem (if I can get it to work). Lindows uses a Debian distribution of Linux. Can I set up a Local Area Network within that version of Linux? (or another version, if no one can get Lindows to do it.) Requirements: a) It must allow Windows XP computers to connect with this LAN, Meaning what? That they can see each other's disk drives? See description below of the difference between the Samba server and client. b) it must enable my wife's XP computer to reach the printer. In Xandros, this is a couple of clicks of the mouse. Again, this would be your Samba server offering up your printer to the XP machines. c) It must receive, and (if possible) send, faxes via our dedicated fax line. (I can get appropriate software from Lindows -- but would gratefully accept any comments concerning WHICH fax programs work better -- more reliably, or more easily -- than their rivals.) I've heard of Hylafax. Other than that, don't know. And I don't know if they will work with a WinModem. Make sure you have a real modem. Check the modem chipset for Linux support in the Hardware How-To. If it's an external modem, it's definately NOT a winmodem. Winmodems tend to be identified as a Lucent chipset, since that's who made them originally. In any case, they're a cheap A/D converter chip, and all the real work is being done in the CPU - you guessed it - the driver. And Lucent only licensed how the chips work to - you guessed it - Microsoft. Hence WinModem. HOW? do I set up a LAN? The first part is IP addresses. You will need to either assign addresses to the machines (say, 192.168.0.1, 192.168.0.2, 192.168.0.3, etc.). You will need to learn about subnets (aka the netmask). (255.255.255.0 for the above). You will need to know if this network connects to the internet and how. If your ISP only gives you one IP, you will need to setup a NAT gateway (either a Linux machine or a SOHO Nat/router/switch/hub from Dlink, Linksys, etc.). You may want to check for a HOW-TO at http://www.tldp.org/ Starting out, you may want to just assign the IPs. Or setup a DHCP server to hand them out. But that's more advanced. As for the Windows computers, they only talk Windows networking. But Linux computers can also be made to talk Windows networking. This program is called SAMBA. A Samba *server* is what lets you share your Linux disk to the Windows computer. A Samba *client* is what lets you use their shared Windows disk on your Linux computer. That said, if you're going to spend the money for Lindows, I *highly* recommend you take a look at Xandros. Same money, but comes with Codeweavers Crossover (much better packaging and setup than straight WINE). But the big kicker is that with Xandros, you get Windows disk sharing and printer sharing *OUT OF THE BOX*. No extra stuff to install or setup. It just works. P.S. There's a LUG discount code on the internet, and you can get the price down to about $65 or so. For the deluxe version (w/ Codeweavers XO). I can send it to you if you'd like. Mike/ - http://www.valuenet.net - To get off this list, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with Subject: unsubscribe -
