[TurboGears] Re: Choice of video capture software and medium.

2005-11-07 Thread Bob Ippolito



On Nov 2, 2005, at 8:27 AM, Kevin Dangoor wrote:



On 11/1/05, Matthew Bevan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I find it pretty great that the 20-minute video and various feature
show-offs for CatWalk are being done in video.  Realtime
demonstrations can often have more impact than written descriptions,
however, I have problems with the choice of medium.

On my wonderful 64-bit laptop, when I play those quicktime videos  
I get
no audio.  On the other hand, I have Macromedia Flash running  
without a

problem.  (A feat on 64-bit assisted by a binary version of Firefox).


Have you tried VLC by any chance? It may not work with the codec that
I've used for this incarnation of the video. I'm not sure, but VLC
plays an awful lot of files.

I am planning to try different codecs to improve compatibility for
Linux users. If I had the money for Sorenson Squeeze, I'd generate
SWFs. Or, if I was using Camtasia on Windows I could likely do it
there as well. Camtasia has other features and is tempting... it's a
pity it's Windows only.

At the moment, I just don't have the time to try and wire up something
like vnc2swf with audio on my Mac.


ffmpeg can transcode to flv, which should be playable anywhere Flash  
or VLC are around.


-bob



[TurboGears] Re: Choice of video capture software and medium.

2005-11-06 Thread Matthew Bevan

 Have you tried VLC by any chance? It may not work with the codec that
 I've used for this incarnation of the video. I'm not sure, but VLC
 plays an awful lot of files.

VLC in their features list does not mention QuickTime, so I will assume
it uses the same technology that mplayer does - that is, it utilizes
emulation of Windows codecs under foreign systems.  Again, that isn't
going to cut it for my loverly 64-bit system.

Experimenting with mplayer-bin under Gentoo it seems to work, but
suffers from interesting problems due to linking against odd library
versions.  (For example, mine is unable to deal with spaces in names,
no matter how quoted or escaped I make it. ;)



[TurboGears] Re: Choice of video capture software and medium.

2005-11-06 Thread Kevin Dangoor

On 11/6/05, Matthew Bevan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Have you tried VLC by any chance? It may not work with the codec that
  I've used for this incarnation of the video. I'm not sure, but VLC
  plays an awful lot of files.

 VLC in their features list does not mention QuickTime, so I will assume
 it uses the same technology that mplayer does - that is, it utilizes
 emulation of Windows codecs under foreign systems.  Again, that isn't
 going to cut it for my loverly 64-bit system.

Actually, VLC does support QuickTime (the MOV container format).

 Experimenting with mplayer-bin under Gentoo it seems to work, but
 suffers from interesting problems due to linking against odd library
 versions.  (For example, mine is unable to deal with spaces in names,
 no matter how quoted or escaped I make it. ;)



I just tried the 20 Minute Wiki with VLC, and it doesn't work. I'm not
surprised that the Apple Animation codec is not supported. However,
if I do future screencasts in QuickTime format with DivX encoding for
the video and AAC for the audio, all should be well. Anywhere VLC
runs, the video should run.

Kevin
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[TurboGears] Re: Choice of video capture software and medium.

2005-11-06 Thread Ian Bicking

Kevin Dangoor wrote:
 On 11/6/05, Matthew Bevan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
Have you tried VLC by any chance? It may not work with the codec that
I've used for this incarnation of the video. I'm not sure, but VLC
plays an awful lot of files.

VLC in their features list does not mention QuickTime, so I will assume
it uses the same technology that mplayer does - that is, it utilizes
emulation of Windows codecs under foreign systems.  Again, that isn't
going to cut it for my loverly 64-bit system.
 
 
 Actually, VLC does support QuickTime (the MOV container format).

It's all about the codecs you have installed.  But I also get really
finicky results using mplayer, vlc, and xine -- each of them plays
things the others won't at times.  I think I played the TG screencast in
xine with win32codecs installed.

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[TurboGears] Re: Choice of video capture software and medium.

2005-11-02 Thread Kevin Dangoor

On 11/1/05, Matthew Bevan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Howdy!

 I find it pretty great that the 20-minute video and various feature
 show-offs for CatWalk are being done in video.  Realtime
 demonstrations can often have more impact than written descriptions,
 however, I have problems with the choice of medium.

 On my wonderful 64-bit laptop, when I play those quicktime videos I get
 no audio.  On the other hand, I have Macromedia Flash running without a
 problem.  (A feat on 64-bit assisted by a binary version of Firefox).

Have you tried VLC by any chance? It may not work with the codec that
I've used for this incarnation of the video. I'm not sure, but VLC
plays an awful lot of files.

I am planning to try different codecs to improve compatibility for
Linux users. If I had the money for Sorenson Squeeze, I'd generate
SWFs. Or, if I was using Camtasia on Windows I could likely do it
there as well. Camtasia has other features and is tempting... it's a
pity it's Windows only.

At the moment, I just don't have the time to try and wire up something
like vnc2swf with audio on my Mac.

 With built-in playback features (play, pause, seek bar) and several
 modes of capture (including audio), I wouldn't mind seeing a
 demonstration done using vnc2swf.  Resulting files have the potential
 to be very, very small.

The size, of course, is mostly due to the codec and options chosen.
I've heard good things about H.264, but that requires folks to be
running the latest QuickTime. Sorenson Squeeze is supposed to put
together very good quality, highly compressed swfs. They do have a
Flash-specific version. I might be able to finagle an upgrade from my
old Flash 4 to the latest and then get the Sorenson package for Flash.

It's likely that the next screencast will be QuickTime, but in a more
friendly codec. I'll try to check it with VLC first to make sure that
a broad audience can watch.

Kevin