Re: Planning to create a new distro of Ubuntu.

2013-11-07 Thread Colin Watson
On Wed, Nov 06, 2013 at 02:13:21PM +0800, Ben Tinner wrote: On Mon Nov 4 12:41:29 UTC 2013, Daniel Holbach wrote: Are you planning to get the necessary packages into Ubuntu itself? That might help make maintenance a lot easier. The guys at MATE are currently attempting to upload the packages

Re: Planning to create a new distro of Ubuntu.

2013-11-07 Thread Andrew Starr-Bochicchio
On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 6:21 AM, Colin Watson cjwat...@ubuntu.com wrote: On Wed, Nov 06, 2013 at 02:13:21PM +0800, Ben Tinner wrote: On Mon Nov 4 12:41:29 UTC 2013, Daniel Holbach wrote: Are you planning to get the necessary packages into Ubuntu itself? That might help make maintenance a lot

Re: Planning to create a new distro of Ubuntu

2013-11-06 Thread Simos Xenitellis
On Sat, Nov 2, 2013 at 1:22 PM, Ben Tinner bentin...@yahoo.com.sg wrote: Hello I am planning to create a new distro of Ubuntu which will have the GNOME 2 look and feel. For those of you who are subscribed to ubuntu-users, you would have heard about my plans to create this (Anyone interested

Re: Planning to create a new distro of Ubuntu

2013-11-05 Thread Jordon Bedwell
On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 1:50 AM, Benjamin Kerensa bkere...@ubuntu.com wrote: It is unclear why Linux Mint disables all of their security updates although to some degree they have tried to justify their disabling of kernel updates by suggesting that such updates could make a system unstable and

Re: Planning to create a new distro of Ubuntu

2013-11-05 Thread Robie Basak
On Tue, Nov 05, 2013 at 02:11:45AM -0600, Jordon Bedwell wrote: Sounds like bad maintainers justifying being bad if you ask me. Please be respectful. The Ubuntu Code of Conduct applies on this list. It's fine to call out their security policy. That appears to be based on fact. But I don't think

Re: Planning to create a new distro of Ubuntu

2013-11-05 Thread Jordon Bedwell
On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 2:40 AM, Robie Basak robie.ba...@ubuntu.com wrote: It's fine to call out their security policy. That appears to be based on fact. But I don't think it's reasonable to speculate by attacking them, especially in their absence and without having an understanding of their

Re: Planning to create a new distro of Ubuntu

2013-11-05 Thread Oliver Grawert
hi, Am Dienstag, den 05.11.2013, 07:32 +0200 schrieb Nik Th: I'm don't watch the conversation from the beginning , but I assume (in your distro) you will keep the original repositories and official packages , correct ? I'm not a developer, thus I cannot help you with coding, but if you

Re: Planning to create a new distro of Ubuntu

2013-11-05 Thread Daniel Hollocher
Do you think that Linux Mint is a vulnerable system ? Really ? https://github.com/linuxmint/mintupdate/blob/master/usr/lib/linuxmint/mintUpdate/rules this is the list of packages it will never update, instead of just integrating changes properly with the packagaes in the ubuntu archive

Re: Planning to create a new distro of Ubuntu

2013-11-04 Thread Nik Th
02.11.2013, 20:00, Oliver Grawert o...@ubuntu.com: It might for exmaple allow security updates (which are explicitly hacked out of Linux Mint for Xorg, the kernel, Firefox, the bootloader and various other packages) so that you dont have to go online with a vulnerable system ;) ciao    

Re: Planning to create a new distro of Ubuntu

2013-11-04 Thread Oliver Grawert
Am Montag, den 04.11.2013, 13:19 +0200 schrieb Nik Th: 02.11.2013, 20:00, Oliver Grawert o...@ubuntu.com: It might for exmaple allow security updates (which are explicitly hacked out of Linux Mint for Xorg, the kernel, Firefox, the bootloader and various other packages) so that you

Re: Planning to create a new distro of Ubuntu

2013-11-04 Thread Daniel Holbach
Hello, On 02.11.2013 16:52, Ben Tinner wrote: I am planning to create a new distro of Ubuntu which will have the GNOME 2 look and feel. For those of you who are subscribed to ubuntu-users, you would have heard about my plans to create this (Anyone interested in a GNOME 2 look and feel

Re: Planning to create a new distro of Ubuntu

2013-11-04 Thread Nik Th
04.11.2013, 13:45, Oliver Grawert o...@ubuntu.com: Am Montag, den 04.11.2013, 13:19 +0200 schrieb Nik Th:  Do you think that Linux Mint is a vulnerable system ? Really ? https://github.com/linuxmint/mintupdate/blob/master/usr/lib/linuxmint/mintUpdate/rules this is the list of packages it

Re: Planning to create a new distro of Ubuntu

2013-11-04 Thread Benjamin Kerensa
It is unclear why Linux Mint disables all of their security updates although to some degree they have tried to justify their disabling of kernel updates by suggesting that such updates could make a system unstable and that normal users shouldn't get these kinds of updates. Anyways it is something

Re: Planning to create a new distro of Ubuntu

2013-11-02 Thread Oliver Grawert
hi, On Sat, 2 Nov 2013 13:28:32 -0400 Daniel Hollocher danielholloc...@gmail.com wrote: Officially called Ubuntu MATE Remix, this will integrate the MATE Desktop Environment to the power and stability of Ubuntu. In fact, I already had a working prototype based on Saucy Salamander. You