Re: Signature for SCSU

2000-07-20 Thread David Starner
://ngeadal.sourceforge.net has some information and some code, though the SCSU stuff won't even be appearing in CVS for a while. -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http/ftp: x8b4e53cd.dhcp.okstate.edu It was starting to rain on the night that they cried forever, It was blinding with snow on the night

Re: Signature for SCSU

2000-07-21 Thread David Starner
since dynamic window 3 is the first one I allocate. So an initial 1B A5 FF is or is not a BOM? -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http/ftp: x8b4e53cd.dhcp.okstate.edu It was starting to rain on the night that they cried forever, It was blinding with snow on the night that they screamed goodbye

Re: UNIX Unicode APIs (*not* character sets)

2000-08-20 Thread David Starner
glibc 2.2 comes out. The extent of the API's on most Unixes (Un*x's too) are the various iconv and mbtowc interfaces that treat Unicode as merely one of many character sets (at least externally.) -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http/ftp: x8b4e53cd.dhcp.okstate.edu It was starting

Re: Same language, two locales (RE: Locale string for

2000-09-02 Thread David Starner
identifiers. So removing that reference drops the utility of UTF #7 greatly. -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http/ftp: dvdeug.net.dhis.org It was starting to rain on the night that they cried forever, It was blinding with snow on the night that they screamed goodbye. - Dio, "Rock and

Re: Same language, two locales

2000-09-02 Thread David Starner
On Sat, Sep 02, 2000 at 10:50:25AM -0800, Doug Ewell wrote: the Euro currency symbol. A separate "fr_FR_Euro" locale would be fr_FR@EURO is the way Sun does it. -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http/ftp: dvdeug.net.dhis.org It was starting to rain on the night that they cri

Re: [unicode] More ways to encode U+FEFF (was: Re: Designing a multilingual

2000-09-06 Thread David Starner
hing I can. (And since Ngeadal may end up supporting any of the above I can get specs on . . .) -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http/ftp: dvdeug.dhis.org I knew all of the floors in my high school, and none of the ceilings. - Chris Painter

Re: [unicode] More ways to encode U+FEFF (was: Re: Designing a

2000-09-06 Thread David Starner
all the big- and little-endian boms for the standard forms utf-8, utf-16, utf-32, scsu, utf-ebcdic then you will be a hero. any of them may come with a bom depending on protocol and os. markus David Starner wrote: UTF-1: F7 64 4C UTF-7: 2B 2F 76 38 2D"

Re: This is not UniLocale!

2000-09-18 Thread David Starner
for any Unicode-compliant mailer to handle? -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http/ftp: dvdeug.dhis.org And crawling, on the planet's face, some insects called the human race. Lost in space, lost in time, and meaning. -- RHPS

Re: New Locale Proposal

2000-09-20 Thread David Starner
a worthwile or even nessecary trade off. No, the C locale is not acceptable for general use. But as a special purpose locale, it has its uses. -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http/ftp: dvdeug.dhis.org And crawling, on the planet's face, some insects called the human race. Lost in space, lost

Re: Unicode on a website

2000-09-22 Thread David Starner
On Fri, Sep 22, 2000 at 10:51:26AM -0800, Markus Scherer wrote: so, how do we get scsu support into ie 6 and netscape 7? For netscape, you write the code and offer it to the mozilla people. -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http/ftp: dvdeug.dhis.org And crawling, on the planet's face, some

Re: Unicode on a website

2000-09-23 Thread David Starner
characters, so it's also legal SCSU), and properly label the Content-Type, just like you'd do with any non-ASCII encoding. The only question I have is whether you put a BOM/signature on it. UTF-16 HTML usually goes out with a BOM. Does everything support UTF-8 HTML with a BOM? -- David Starner

Re: Unicode on a website

2000-09-23 Thread David Starner
(The list is munging my headers! Reply-to is being deleted! I guess I'm going to have to munge the From address then.) On Sat, Sep 23, 2000 at 04:29:16PM -0400, Doug Ewell wrote: David Starner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: First is there a standard for implementing SCSU in browsers

Re: New Name Registry Using Unicode

2000-10-04 Thread David Starner
in Unicode. -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http/ftp: dvdeug.dhis.org And crawling, on the planet's face, some insects called the human race. Lost in space, lost in time, and meaning. -- RHPS

Re: Correct definition for an isLatin1() function

2000-10-05 Thread David Starner
begin return (C 16#100#); end isLatin1; That is, include C0 and C1, since they are a part of ISO 8859-1. But without knowing what you want to do with it, I can't say that that's the right answer. -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http/ftp: dvdeug.dhis.org And crawling, on the pla

Re: charset list

2000-10-05 Thread David Starner
-8859-*, US-ASCII, and a few others (KOI8-[RU], Big5, various Asian character sets) where ever possible. Raghu Kolluru [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: Where can I get list of charsets that I can specify in the meta tag ? Raghs -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http/ftp: dvdeug.dhis.org

Giga Character Set: Anything besides noise

2000-10-11 Thread David Starner
st noise and slander? -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http/ftp: dvdeug.dhis.org And crawling, on the planet's face, some insects called the human race. Lost in space, lost in time, and meaning. -- RHPS

Re: CJK combining components (was Giga Character Set: Nothing b

2000-10-16 Thread David Starner
still make the font using that technology instead of doing everything by hand. -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://dvdeug.dhis.org If you wish to strive for peace of soul then believe; if you wish to be a devotee of truth, then inquire. -- Friedrich Nietzsche

Re: Preliminary charts for Unicode 3.2 draft

2000-10-19 Thread David Starner
to buy a $60 book that often.) -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://dvdeug.dhis.org If you wish to strive for peace of soul then believe; if you wish to be a devotee of truth, then inquire. -- Friedrich Nietzsche

Re: Myanmar Script (1000-109F)

2000-10-20 Thread David Starner
://www.unicode.org/unicode/faq/ ). Pick up the Unicode book and read through it. Then come back and ask something specific, and you'll probably get a much better answer. -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://dvdeug.dhis.org If you wish to strive for peace of soul then believe; if you wish

Re: Preliminary charts for Unicode 3.2 draft

2000-10-23 Thread David Starner
On Thu, Oct 19, 2000 at 02:19:07PM -0800, Kenneth Whistler wrote: David Starner asked: Where do we find the information on how to use these characters? First of all, everyone should take a deep breath and read the caveats carefully. The characters listed in these charts are not yet

Re: OT: Devanagari question

2000-11-14 Thread David Starner
areas. * There was some discussion on this on the list in September, that ended with someone finding 019E LATIN SMALL LETTER N WITH LONG RIGHT LEG. Unfortunetly, there's no corresponding LATIN CAPITAL LETTER N WITH LONG RIGHT LEG, which Lakota needs. -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http

Re: string vs. char [was Re: Java and Unicode]

2000-11-20 Thread David Starner
he term Astral Plane. Keeping that in mind, I can chose to use whatever terms I want, realizing of course that some may not get my point across. The UTC chose Surrogate Planes for perceived functionality and translatability; I chose Astral Planes for perceived grace and beauty. -- David Starne

Re: Open-Type Support (was: Greek Prosgegrammeni)

2000-11-22 Thread David Starner
complex script support into bdf (http://www.wholehog.fsnet.co.uk/robert/indic/fonts.html). -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://dvdeug.dhis.org Looking for a Debian developer in the Stillwater, Oklahoma area to sign my GPG key

Re: Kana and Case (was [totally OT] Unicode terminology)

2000-11-22 Thread David Starner
ages and users and considering them inherantly less worthy? -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://dvdeug.dhis.org Looking for a Debian developer in the Stillwater, Oklahoma area to sign my GPG key

Re: UTF-8 Corrigendum, new Glossary

2000-11-30 Thread David Starner
It seems better just to refuse it, and force the buggy software to get fixed, than have a bunch of obscure bugs show up latter. -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://dvdeug.dhis.org Looking for a Debian developer in the Stillwater, Oklahoma area to sign my GPG key

Re: Transcriptions of Unicode

2000-12-07 Thread David Starner
. -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://dvdeug.dhis.org "(You see, the best way to solve a problem is to rigorously define it in terms of other people's problems and then run away quickly.)" -- Roland McGrath [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: conversion of ascii to utf-8

2000-12-10 Thread David Starner
representation of characters into the utf-8 format to enable the unicode compatibility? Under Unix, the utility to convert ASCII to UTF-8 is cat. E.g. cat ascii_file utf8_file Under Windows, the utility type can be used the same way type ascii_file utf8_file -- David Starner - [EMAIL

Re: PDUTR #27: Unicode 3.1

2001-01-22 Thread David Starner
patches do is make xterm look up and display the suppchars from the appropriate font. Xterm will do combining characters, including ones that aren't in the font and doublewidth characters, so it's not an completely trivial rendering engine. -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Recovering from a hard

Re: What about musical notation ?

2001-01-24 Thread David Starner
in some languages). Unicode is not a rich text format, nor a format for storing music. The symbols being encoded are for discussion in text, not for music storage. -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Recovering from a hard drive "crash" - website down

Re: Chemistry on chinesse. (CJK)

2001-01-24 Thread David Starner
) allow them to use Roman characters. Looking at what else was encoded in legacy CJK character sets, I assume if there were to have been a need for the elements, then they would have been encoded. -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Recovering from a hard drive "crash" - website down

Re: Benefits of Unicode

2001-01-27 Thread David Starner
right fonts), but many won't handle RTL languages, many won't handle combining characters, many won't handle proper formatting for Arabic and Indic languages, and many won't handle suppchars. -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pointless website: http://dvdeug.dhis.org

Re: Benefits of Unicode

2001-01-29 Thread David Starner
nyone else have any information about the Tron character set? -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pointless website: http://dvdeug.dhis.org

Re: ConScript registry?

2001-01-30 Thread David Starner
, Visible Speech, Aiha, and Klingon) have any claim to be added to Unicode. 78 columns, less than 624 characters to be added. -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pointless website: http://dvdeug.dhis.org

Re: ConScript registry?

2001-01-30 Thread David Starner
e one language that deserves it, because there may be more that deserve to be encoded, or for fear (on what evidence) of spurious submissions? -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pointless website: http://dvdeug.dhis.org

Re: Unicode 3.1: UTF-8

2001-01-31 Thread David Starner
utility of using them to work around older systems doesn't balance the (very rare) problems from using them. -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pointless website: http://dvdeug.dhis.org

Re: Property error for U+2118?

2001-02-01 Thread David Starner
. It's not as clear as on the lists, but it's there. -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pointless website: http://dvdeug.dhis.org

Re: ConScript registry?

2001-02-01 Thread David Starner
of this language before, and wouldn't have included it otherwise. Why was it included in the roadmap? -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pointless website: http://dvdeug.dhis.org

Re: Property error for U+2118?

2001-02-01 Thread David Starner
nded to be the Weierstrass elliptic function", and not stand for anything else. -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pointless website: http://dvdeug.dhis.org

Re: conversion of e-mail addresses

2001-02-08 Thread David Starner
as far as I can tell), iconv, GNU recode and konwert are all better programs for most uses. In any case, if he needed a text converter, it sounds like he's running Windows, so a source archive is probably not the best solution for him. -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pointless website: http

Re: Unicode to Greek translation of Euro sign

2001-02-18 Thread David Starner
countries that is switching to the Euro in less than 10 months. What code page will be used for Unicode to Greek on Unix systems after 1/1/2002? What about UTF-8, which was designed for Un*x and Un*x-like systems? -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pointless website: http://dvdeug.dhis.org &q

Re: Perception that Unicode is 16-bit (was: Re: Surrogate space in Unicode)

2001-02-19 Thread David Starner
de-related functions in Prague growing out of size, I moved them into a new library called 'Babylon'. It will provide all the functionality defined in the Unicode standard (it is not Unicode but ISO 10646 compliant as it uses 32bit wide characters internally) and is written in C++. -- David Starne

Re: fictional scripts revisited

2001-02-22 Thread David Starner
we wait until there is, before we consider encoding a script. -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pointless website: http://dvdeug.dhis.org "I don't care if Bill personally has my name and reads my email and laughs at me. In fact, I'd be rather honored." - Joseph_Greg

Re: fictional scripts revisited

2001-02-23 Thread David Starner
written with many letters in one ideographic square in a Chinese style. -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pointless website: http://dvdeug.dhis.org "I don't care if Bill personally has my name and reads my email and laughs at me. In fact, I'd be rather honored." - Joseph_Greg

Re: bijective (was re: An Absurdly Brief Introduction to Unicode (was

2001-02-26 Thread David Starner
textbook (which may be a little easier going) is: Hungerford, Thomas W. 1997. Abstract Algebra: An Introduction. Saunders College Publishing. -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pointless website: http://dvdeug.dhis.org "I don't care if Bill personally has my name and reads my

Re: Klingon silliness

2001-02-26 Thread David Starner
don't is absurd, especially when that cool idea is going nowhere officially. -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pointless website: http://dvdeug.dhis.org "I don't care if Bill personally has my name and reads my email and laughs at me. In fact, I'd be rather honored." - Joseph_Greg

Re: Klingon silliness

2001-02-27 Thread David Starner
had there was the "ch" and we have discussed it in the past. Then why do you berate people for working on Klingon? They're probably no more an expert at the minority scripts than you are. They're just working on what they find interesting and are knowledgable about. -- David Starne

Re: UTF-8, C1 controls, and UNIX

2001-03-01 Thread David Starner
ed: Plan-9 is not a true Unix, but it does show heavy Unix ancestory.) -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pointless website: http://dvdeug.dhis.org "I don't care if Bill personally has my name and reads my email and laughs at me. In fact, I'd be rather honored." - Joseph_Greg

Re: Iranian Rial sign proposal

2001-04-04 Thread David Starner
. -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pointless website: http://dvdeug.dhis.org "I don't care if Bill personally has my name and reads my email and laughs at me. In fact, I'd be rather honored." - Joseph_Greg

Re: The Code2000 font.

2001-04-11 Thread David Starner
On Wed, Apr 11, 2001 at 07:38:55AM -0400, Dennis L. Goyette wrote: Is there a Linux version of this font or a way to convert it for linux??? It's TrueType - use it with XFree86 4.0, or xfstt. Alternately, you can convert it with ttf2bdf from the freetype project. -- David Starner - [EMAIL

Re: benefits of unicode

2001-04-13 Thread David Starner
. I have in mind Inuktitut and perhaps Byzantine music, but its a bit hard to establish that there are no other code pages. Cherokee. From email with Cherokee, there's two different ASCII font-encodings that get used, but no real codepage. -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pointless website

Re: Identifiers

2001-04-15 Thread David Starner
resolution. -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pointless website: http://dvdeug.dhis.org "I don't care if Bill personally has my name and reads my email and laughs at me. In fact, I'd be rather honored." - Joseph_Greg

Re: Identifiers

2001-04-16 Thread David Starner
On Mon, Apr 16, 2001 at 12:09:42PM +0200, Florian Weimer wrote: David Starner [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In general, the problem is unsolvable. There are several look-alikes among the Cyrillic, Greek, Latin and Cherokee blocks, among others. And those are not equivalent under

Re: Identifiers

2001-04-16 Thread David Starner
out a COBOL obfusocater that changed all identifiers to strings of O's and 0's. -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pointless website: http://dvdeug.dhis.org "I don't care if Bill personally has my name and reads my email and laughs at me. In fact, I'd be rather honored." - Joseph_Greg

Re: benefits of unicode

2001-04-17 Thread David Starner
7-bit code, but not without stepping on the C0 codes and probably not one you could use to type C or Unix. -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pointless website: http://dvdeug.dhis.org "I don't care if Bill personally has my name and reads my email and laughs at me. In fact, I'd be rather honored." - Joseph_Greg

Re: benefits of unicode

2001-04-19 Thread David Starner
? THEY CERTAINLY ARE NOT NECCESSARY AND I HAVE FREQUENTLY SEEN PEOPLE NOT USE THEM WHEN AVAILABLE. -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pointless website: http://dvdeug.dhis.org "I don't care if Bill personally has my name and reads my email and laughs at me. In fact, I'd be rather ho

Re: benefits of unicode

2001-04-19 Thread David Starner
another keyboard. Since no common US keyboard has more than the ASCII characters, well . . . I'm sure a lot of people using foriegn languages have sent out ASCII messages using transliteration that never would have printed a book in that transliteration. -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pointless

Re: Byte Order Marks

2001-04-19 Thread David Starner
-local cache files. That breaks interoperating between your program on different systems.) -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pointless website: http://dvdeug.dhis.org "I don't care if Bill personally has my name and reads my email and laughs at me. In fact, I'd be rather honored." - Joseph_Greg

Re: ASCII adequacy (was: RE: benefits of unicode)

2001-04-20 Thread David Starner
code isn't neccessary for those people; many got by just fine with TeX and WordPerfect and other programs that have larger than an 8-bit character set via kludges.) -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pointless website: http://dvdeug.dhis.org "I don't care if Bill personally has my name and

Re: ASCII adequacy (was: RE: benefits of unicode)

2001-04-20 Thread David Starner
imensional (as opposed to one-dimensional) layout business. I'm currently in a class where the teacher heavily uses Maple. It would be an amazing boon to me if the Maple programs used combining vectors above and real Greek letters, so that they corresponded to what's going on the board. -- David Starne

Re: Decimal Unicodepoints

2001-04-25 Thread David Starner
would chose decimal for thier Unicode references, but it's not that hard to pop up bc or some other calculator and do hexidecimal to decimal conversions. Since it's trivial, there's about as much point to doing it as keeping one of those old books of logs around. -- David Starner - [EMAIL

Re: Tags and the Private Use Area

2001-04-25 Thread David Starner
the problem that non-PUA parts of the page can't be displayed and that doesn't work for untagged Unicode only systems (dict protocol, for example). -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pointless website: http://dvdeug.dhis.org I don't care if Bill personally has my name and reads my email

Re: Unicode in a URL

2001-04-26 Thread David Starner
format that already has been in wide use in the literature. You can use UTF-7 (defined in an RFC), but if you need to transmit Unicode by a ASCII-only carrier, BASE64 or Mime encoding is generally preferred. -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pointless website: http://dvdeug.dhis.org I don't care

Re: Tags and the Private Use Area

2001-04-29 Thread David Starner
will do the TeX thing and say File not found. Please enter alternate PUA reference for 'Klingon at http://www.kli.org/klingon.xml':. Note that there's already precedence in XML for stuff like this; XML includes a URL to find the doctype that's needed to validate it. -- David Starner - [EMAIL

Re: FW: chinese conversion tables

2001-05-01 Thread David Starner
didn't support Unicode, but it's in actual use at a mailing list gateway at Debian. -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pointless website: http://dvdeug.dhis.org I don't care if Bill personally has my name and reads my email and laughs at me. In fact, I'd be rather honored. - Joseph_Greg

Re: Word, Asian characters, and Arial Unicode

2001-05-07 Thread David Starner
emulators, not in a proportional situation like Microsoft Word. The width of the character in Word should be dependent on the width of the glyph in the font used and the spacing on the line, not East Asian Width. -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pointless website: http://dvdeug.dhis.org I don't

Re: Single Unicode Font

2001-05-22 Thread David Starner
and linguists frequently use Latin and Greek together (cf. IPA) in ways that require consistent font looks. -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Script use by Mathematicians (Was Re: Single Unicode Font)

2001-05-22 Thread David Starner
At 12:52 PM 05/22/2001 -0400, you wrote: On Tue, 22 May 2001, David Starner wrote: In any case, some scripts just go together. Mathematicians and linguists frequently use Latin and Greek together (cf. IPA) in ways that require consistent font looks. Do these need to go together? IPA

RE: UTF-8 signature in web and email

2001-05-22 Thread David Starner
be changed. -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: Single Unicode Font

2001-05-22 Thread David Starner
all we want - the ability to read any Unicode document at some rudimentary level. -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: UTF-8 signature in web and email

2001-05-24 Thread David Starner
At 11:35 AM 05/23/2001 +0200, Marco Cimarosti wrote: David Starner wrote: You're asking for every program to treat UTF-8 specially. No I am not! I have been saying the exact opposite! [...] [...] of now, UTF-8 is just one of many charsets in use on Unix. In fact! So why do Unixers worry

Re: New documents

2001-07-04 Thread David Starner
constructed scripts by authors (or at least for authors) of the 20th century, the only big difference being that one was used for one book and the others have a decent body of users (not huge, but probably bigger than Cherokee.) -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Shavian (was: Re: UTF-17)

2001-07-04 Thread David Starner
of a mighty Unicode library, or go at the byte values with tr. -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Shavian

2001-07-05 Thread David Starner
scripts. -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Shavian

2001-07-06 Thread David Starner
to the experts, to complete any encoding proposals... a matter of time and funds. How does encoding fictional scripts affect this one way or another? -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Shavian

2001-07-06 Thread David Starner
Klingon. Could you find fault with some one who chose not to work with Cham because it was in the same consideration list as the (dead) Egyptian Hieroglyphics? -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Shavian

2001-07-06 Thread David Starner
reasons why some characters or scripts shouldn't be encoded - they shouldn't matter. -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: A UTF-8 based News Service

2001-07-12 Thread David Starner
information about other options. What about UTF-16? Encode all characters as 2 bytes, and your problem is solved, and UTF-16 should be supported by all recent Unicode-supporting web browsers. -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: More about SCSU (was: Re: A UTF-8 based News Service)

2001-07-13 Thread David Starner
for Mozilla and properly submit it, at which point Mozilla will quietly start supporting SCSU, and Navigator will follow suit in a couple releases. -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: A UTF-8 based News Service

2001-07-13 Thread David Starner
can hardwire it to UTF-8. In web and email, you have the choice of charsets, and if a non-UTF-8 charset will make your life and the life of your readers easier, go for it. -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Is there Unicode mail out there?

2001-07-14 Thread David Starner
be used when you're communicating with people who use legacy encodings and legacy mail readers. Unicode people don't - after ASCII, UTF-8 is probably the closest thing we have to a common usable encoding. -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Is there Unicode mail out there?

2001-07-14 Thread David Starner
and paste into Unicode editors, because they can read it)? There's no other charset (besides ASCII) that everyone with a working mailer, no matter how minimal, can read. -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Native font format

2001-07-27 Thread David Starner
Unicode, it really doesn't matter. -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] The pig -- belongs -- to _all_ mankind! - Invader Zim

Why Arabic Shaping?

2001-08-22 Thread David Starner
Shaikli - Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 14:25:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Nadim Shaikli Subject: Re: Arabic Unicode fonts To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Tue, 14 Aug 2001 06:26:08 +0100 David Starner wrote: From: Nadim Shaikli 1. All Arabic fonts _must_ include forms-B (or equivallent

[marco.cimarosti@essetre.it: RE: Why Arabic Shaping?]

2001-08-27 Thread David Starner
One minor comment added under ISO-8859-6 fonts. - Forwarded message from Marco Cimarosti [EMAIL PROTECTED] - From: Marco Cimarosti [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'David Starner' [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Why Arabic Shaping? Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 14:46:28 +0200 Lines: 148

Re: japanese xml

2001-08-30 Thread David Starner
Linux is that that EUC-JP, Shift-JIS, and CP932 are all encodings that include JIS X 0208; but they all map the JIS X 0208 portion differently. So EUC-JP - Shift-JIS produces different results than EUC-JP - Unicode - Shift-JIS. That's not prefectly interoperable. -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: japanese xml

2001-09-03 Thread David Starner
disagree on how to map some JIS X0208 characters to Unicode. SJIS - EUC-JP is a standardized lossless transformation, but SJIS - Unicode (via Unicode's mapping tables) - EUC-JP produces different output in some cases. -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pointless website: http://dvdeug.dhis.org I

Re: japanese xml

2001-09-04 Thread David Starner
? No. But their documents were the source of the problem, and they could have fixed or at least eased the problem with a little more care. -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pointless website: http://dvdeug.dhis.org I don't care if Bill personally has my name and reads my email and laughs at me

Re: japanese xml

2001-09-04 Thread David Starner
and move to Unicode is not one that wins many converts. Backward compatibility and the ability to interface with other systems running different stuff is always useful. This is especially bad, as the Japanese community is one of the major bodies of anti-Unicode setiment. -- David Starner - [EMAIL

Re: FW: transliteration

2001-09-06 Thread David Starner
in Unicode, Arial Unicode (from Microsoft) or Plane2000 (only if the licensing on the first one is unacceptable - it's much lower quality) will include all the characters. -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pointless website: http://dvdeug.dhis.org I don't care if Bill personally has my name

Re: [OT] o-circumflex

2001-09-06 Thread David Starner
there is an established English sort order. It's not a problem that comes up much in English. -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pointless website: http://dvdeug.dhis.org I don't care if Bill personally has my name and reads my email and laughs at me. In fact, I'd be rather honored. - Joseph_Greg

Re: UTF-8 validation rules

2001-09-10 Thread David Starner
characters would have been subsumed in this if this came first. It could be used for markup, making a wordprocessor format that's plain text once you strip these characters. -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pointless website: http://dvdeug.dhis.org I don't care if Bill personally has my name and reads

Re: PDUTR #26 posted

2001-09-17 Thread David Starner
are all in IANA, and I don't think anyone is being forced to support them. -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pointless website: http://dvdeug.dhis.org I don't care if Bill personally has my name and reads my email and laughs at me. In fact, I'd be rather honored. - Joseph_Greg

Re: PDUTR #26 posted

2001-09-17 Thread David Starner
protocol. What about directories? Directories can have arbitrary names, and need to be compared and checked. -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pointless website: http://dvdeug.dhis.org I don't care if Bill personally has my name and reads my email and laughs at me. In fact, I'd be rather

Re: UCS-2 to UTF-8 hex values

2001-09-19 Thread David Starner
. It would have taken far less time to write one than to get a response. -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pointless website: http://dvdeug.dhis.org I don't care if Bill personally has my name and reads my email and laughs at me. In fact, I'd be rather honored. - Joseph_Greg

Re: 3rd-party cross-platform UTF-8 support

2001-09-20 Thread David Starner
, but the only way to really find out is to actually measure it - always a good idea in optimization. -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pointless website: http://dvdeug.dhis.org When the aliens come, when the deathrays hum, when the bombers bomb, we'll still be freakin' friends. - Freakin' Friends

Re: 3rd-party cross-platform UTF-8 support

2001-09-21 Thread David Starner
at all, since it's only BMP. UTF-16 has all the problems of UTF-8, except in a more limited way. If you can deal with mixed 2 byte and 4 byte characters, you can also deal 1, 2, 3 and 4 byte characters. -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pointless website: http://dvdeug.dhis.org When the aliens

Re: GB18030

2001-09-24 Thread David Starner
does map the non-BMP area. Why wouldn't GB18030 define the relationship between itself and the non-BMP planes? It's needed to properly handle Unicode (since extra Private Use planes sit way out there), now and in the future, and it takes less work to do it now than hack it on later. -- David

Re: Egyptian Transliteration Characters

2001-09-26 Thread David Starner
, that Unicode has basically drawn a line in the sand. (Also, it messes with the Composition/Decomposition algorithm to add more composed characters.) -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pointless website: http://dvdeug.dhis.org When the aliens come, when the deathrays hum, when the bombers bomb, we'll

Re: GB18030

2001-09-26 Thread David Starner
if you don't have to (C10). GB18030, if it claims to support Unicode, needs to round-trip both characters. -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pointless website: http://dvdeug.dhis.org When the aliens come, when the deathrays hum, when the bombers bomb, we'll still be freakin' friends. - Freakin

Re: GB18030

2001-09-26 Thread David Starner
(1) := (idx / 10) + 16#81#; -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pointless website: http://dvdeug.dhis.org When the aliens come, when the deathrays hum, when the bombers bomb, we'll still be freakin' friends. - Freakin' Friends

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