So basically it goes like this, doesn't it?
We want to write on-rev material, we can, we use a text editor, then we
load it onto the Rev run on-rev server, and it works fine in Linux or
anything else, in any web browser. Presumably there's a handbook with a
guide for how to do
Peter, if you want to put up a web page on the on-rev server to give it a try
I'd be happy to give you a folder to fool around with. I'm using about a
millionth of my alotted space at the moment.
Part of what Peter Alcibiades wrote:
So basically it goes like this, doesn't it?
We want to write
By installing the RunRev 3.5 engine on any Apache server you can get just
about the same functionality as you would get on the on-rev server
Thanks, I had not appreciated that. Could certainly be significant.
Peter
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Peter Alcibiades wrote:
By installing the RunRev 3.5 engine on any Apache server you can get just
about the same functionality as you would get on the on-rev server
Thanks, I had not appreciated that. Could certainly be significant.
Peter, you really should take up that offer for an iRev
c) use HTTPS for all communication between client and server (so that Evil
H4ck3r will not sniff you)
How do I set this up?
If I have my database file at: myname.on-rev.com/db.irev
I would usually get it's data by asking for http://myname.on-rev.com/db.irev
Can I just change this to
Sarah,
change to HTTPS and set liburl verification to false if you don´t have a
real ssl certificate (if yours is self signed)
cheers
andre
On Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 8:12 PM, Sarah Reichelt sarah.reich...@gmail.comwrote:
c) use HTTPS for all communication between client and server (so that
I don't have a real certificate.
Do I need to create a self-signed one? If so how, and where do I store it?
Setting liburl verification to false... I can't find a command for
doing this. Do I use libURLSetCustomHTTPHeaders? And if so, what
header exactly do I set.
Sorry Andre, I'm a complete
Sarah Reichelt wrote:
I don't have a real certificate.
Do I need to create a self-signed one? If so how, and where do I store it?
Setting liburl verification to false... I can't find a command for
doing this. Do I use libURLSetCustomHTTPHeaders? And if so, what
header exactly do I set.
Funny,
J. Landman Gay wrote:
Sarah Reichelt wrote:
I don't have a real certificate.
Do I need to create a self-signed one? If so how, and where do I store
it?
Setting liburl verification to false... I can't find a command for
doing this. Do I use libURLSetCustomHTTPHeaders? And if so, what
header
libSSLSetVerification true/false
Is that the only SSL command?
The Enterprise 3.5 dictionary has no entries for libSSL
On Mar 28, 2010, at 6:11 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote:
J. Landman Gay wrote:
Sarah Reichelt wrote:
I don't have a real certificate.
Do I need to create a self-signed one? If
Jim Ault wrote:
libSSLSetVerification true/false
Is that the only SSL command?
The Enterprise 3.5 dictionary has no entries for libSSL
I don't know. Someone was having trouble and RR told me to recommend
that, and said it should have been documented but was accidentally
omitted. I didn't
I don't have a real certificate.
Do I need to create a self-signed one? If so how, and where do I store
it?
Setting liburl verification to false... I can't find a command for
doing this. Do I use libURLSetCustomHTTPHeaders? And if so, what
header exactly do I set.
Funny, this just came up
Hi Sarah,
but what's stopping me
on mouseUp
put http://myusername.on-rev.com/readDB.irev; into tDBdata
-- now display it
end mouseUp
to your account?
Of course how would I know that you had an account, or that you had such a
file?
I liken this (and I might be wrong) to my wife who always
On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 5:21 PM, Kay C Lan lan.kc.macm...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Sarah,
but what's stopping me
on mouseUp
put http://myusername.on-rev.com/readDB.irev; into tDBdata
-- now display it
end mouseUp
to your account?
Nothing :-)
But you only get the results from my database,
contains an SQL command instead of a
string (eg. 2347 Main Street), which can play havoc with a data table.
The advantage to using a Rev cgi or and irev script is that the
variables passed into that script can be handled in ways that most SQL
programmers would not understand. Since you
db's
accessible from outside my on-rev domain. Beyond that, the advice from
Sarah, Andre, Kay, and Jim is valuable with regard to security issues.
BTW, it's not obvious from the on-rev CPanel where to make the change
to the allowed hosts. Under Databases click Remote MySQL. There you
can add
my on-rev domain. Beyond that, the advice from
Sarah, Andre, Kay, and Jim is valuable with regard to security issues.
BTW, it's not obvious from the on-rev CPanel where to make the change to
the allowed hosts. Under Databases click Remote MySQL. There you can add
specific allowed IP addresses
to get the text (POST) included as a WHERE in the
irev SQL action?
Hope that made sense.
Thank you!
John Patten
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Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2010 09:56:57 +1000
From: Sarah Reichelt sarah.reich...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: Connecting Rev stack to On-Rev
of the database. What
is the proper way to get the text (POST) included as a WHERE in the
irev SQL action?
John,
A few weeks back I taught a block in my Rev class on creating irev
scripts that respond to form requests in the context of creating
custom database queries. I've just posted my class
Hi All...
My Developer Conference 2009 DVDs arrived yesterday and I listened to
Devin do his presentations on connecting rev to an on-rev mysql db. He
made it look so easy, I thought I'd give it a try!
My attempts are failing with the error: Access denied for user
'jpatten_elearn
arrived yesterday and I listened to Devin
do his presentations on connecting rev to an on-rev mysql db. He made it
look so easy, I thought I'd give it a try!
My attempts are failing with the error: Access denied for user
'jpatten_elearn'@'216.64.xxx.xx' (using password: YES)
I'm behind a firewall
My Developer Conference 2009 DVDs arrived yesterday and I listened to Devin
do his presentations on connecting rev to an on-rev mysql db. He made it
look so easy, I thought I'd give it a try!
My attempts are failing with the error: Access denied for user
'jpatten_elearn'@'216.64.xxx.xx
Andre, Sarah,
of the options you each suggested, any thoughts on which is more secure or
are they both on par?
Thanks
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Andre, Sarah,
of the options you each suggested, any thoughts on which is more secure or
are they both on par?
Andre probably knows more than me about such things, but I reckon my
way is more secure.
The password
Interesting - it is working so i will ignore for now :) Thanks.
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David,
working as cgi will also yield this error but apache will treat it as
a malformed http header and ignore it.
This is due to missing/wrong link for the UI graphic libraries. Due
to the nature of the linux dynamic loader and the way Rev was built,
it will look for those libraries
Hi Dennis,
There is a trade-off, there. As a researcher, it matters more that something
takes me 1 day rather 5 to progam. It does not matter that much that it takes 1
minute rather than 3 to run (I can always use it as an excuse for a coffee
break). What I frequently need to do is create word
). Revolution is the best program I know
to rapidly handle interface design and internet protocols.
I'll bet that would work quite well as an external
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Marielle,
with the GNU tools bin programs and cigwin tools, you can already do so via
shell or launch. There's a zillion text manipulation tools out there.
But so far Rev is quite fast even for intricate parsing. Never fast enough
tough ;)
But a bridge would be welcome to avoid shell calls
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tiny amount of memory. You are free to define words that
implement an OO environment if you choose. You could even create
Rev using this as the lower level P code, or an operating system
for that matter.
I understand how Forth works. I'm just not sure how I would
and
powerful architecture for developing real time machine controllers
with a tiny amount of memory. You are free to define words that
implement an OO environment if you choose. You could even create
Rev using this as the lower level P code, or an operating system
for that matter.
I understand how
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On May 2, 2005, at 10:25 AM, Geoff Canyon wrote:
I'm not sure how to catalog Forth, but it's not OO
I totally agree with Dennis. Efficient arrays are the
missing link in rev.
Gordon
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On May 2, 2005, at 10:25 AM, Geoff Canyon wrote:
I'm
Gordon Webster wrote:
I totally agree with Dennis. Efficient arrays are the
missing link in rev.
http://support.runrev.com/bugdatabase/show_bug.cgi?id=555?
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rev.
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of the benefits (and take some of
the same tactics) in Rev as with true OO environments has merit, IMO,
but saying that Revolution is OO is just taking liberty with the
definition of Object-Oriented. Sure if you reinterpret the term based
on what you think it should mean, you end up in one place- but if you
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I totally agree with Dennis. Efficient arrays are the
missing link in
rev.
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Be aware to see how combining the repeat for each statement
(read-only) and the rev two-dimmensions arrays can be very usefull and
fast running, lots faster than many well formated SQL queries, for an
exemple...
Hope this can help,
This BZ on arrays would be a welcome enhancement, but it would
On 5/4/05 10:32 AM, MisterX [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Im sick of this non-sense - no offense to you Mickey...
Xavier... you *really* have to let up on the c key when responding... The
gentleman's name is Mikey, not Mickey, and he has said that to you multiple
times. My suggestion would be that
Pierre,
I am quite aware of these, and that is what I want to run 10 times
faster than. However, a lot can be done with the repeat for each
more quickly than other Rev methods, but it can only be used with a
single named array at a time. I have entered a BZ request for an
additional
amen! I used to take Tom Pittman's advice for Compilit and use his
notation for integers - % and they screamed with speed... and the old
Hyperbasic XCMD generator had great array capabilities. I don't mind
typing variables optionally if it speeds up things.
sqb
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Im sick of this non-sense - no offense to you Mickey...
Xavier... you *really* have to let up on the c
. Since
then, I've used only HC and now Rev so my exposure to classical OOP was
missing. Comments like the one my ISP gave indicated a structural as well
as philosophical difference in thinking. Thanks, again... Jim
on 4/30/05 7:36 PM, Derek Bump wrote:
As someone already said, your ISP answer
LISP is purely functional, not object-oriented. There are OO
libraries for LISP, but many on the LISP side of things look down on
them.
I'm not sure how to catalog Forth, but it's not OO (inherently --
there are OO implementations). It's procedural, certainly, but the
inherent stack gives
I think by that classification Rev _is_ object-oriented:
ObjectOrientedProgramming. A program execution is regarded as a
physical model, simulating the behavior of either a real or imaginary
part of the world. Sounds like Rev to me.
Nevertheless, I always refer people to another quote
words that
implement an OO environment if you choose. You could even create Rev
using this as the lower level P code, or an operating system for that
matter.
Dennis
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And in about polymorphism... : HC and REV are full able to let us
design any complexes recursive procedures we can need inside our
xtalk's apps, even in using polymorhism, hash-tables stuffs and so
on...
Best, Pierre
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terms best describe its
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You are free to define words
that implement an OO environment if you choose. You could
even create Rev using this as the lower level P code, or an
operating system for that matter.
Dennis
I like your way of saying it...
That's exactly what I've done with xtalk in TAOO, XOS
On May 2, 2005, at 9:28 AM, Geoff Canyon wrote:
Setting those aside, Rev lacks several characteristics most people
consider inherent to OO. That doesn't make it bad or good,
necessarily.
When this thread started, my reaction was because of these missing
characteristics, I would have said
I know there has been lots of discussion on this topic since I joined the
list and I know many Rev'ers on this list have converted to Rev as their dev
language of first choice.
I'm having a continuing conversation with my provider about using his sever
to serve my Rev app. First was he highly
right now if I were using something other than Rev -- one of
those so-called real programming languages.
As for an object-oriented programming language, no Rev is *not* an
object-oriented programming language, at least not in the traditional
sense.
For example, in Rev, let's say we want
Jim,
I know there has been lots of discussion on this topic since I joined
the
list and I know many Rev'ers on this list have converted to Rev as
their dev
language of first choice.
I'm having a continuing conversation with my provider about using his
sever
to serve my Rev app. First was he
it is more of scripting language that a real programming language
which
is awesome for the non-technical developers like me and you, but is not a
true object oriented application language which is being taught in
universities.
You know, this is exactly the kind of statement that I really
Frank, et al:
As for an object-oriented programming language, no Rev is *not* an
object-oriented programming language, at least not in the traditional sense.
For example, in Rev, let's say we want to change the label of the button;
we do this with a command like:
set the label of button My
(and therefore $$$) does it take to produce reliable and
fast code to the satisfaction of your clients...
Show him a few apps made with Rev and ask him how much time (and
$$$) it would take to do the same with Java, C, etc.
Then ask him to compare the learning curve between Rev, Java, C...
One
++, Java, JavaScript, Basic and even HTML.
No, OOP is a somewhat specific paradigm for computer programming, and
includes certain characteristics which are *not* present in Rev.
Yes, many things are viewed as objects, and Rev even refers to things
as objects (well, they are, actually
On Apr 30, 2005, at 10:31 AM, Derek Bump wrote:
What programming language is not object oriented? Everything is an
object.
Object-oriented refers to programmatic objects. Classes, inheritance,
polymorphism. RR has very little of that.
V.
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Frank, et al:
Before someone goes and says, but we have inheritance -- the group
intercepts messages not received by objects in the group, the card
receives from the group, etc. -- there is a certain level of inheritance
in place, and Rev does have many characteristics of an object-oriented
Frank, et al:
But I for one would not pretend to call it an actual object-oriented
language until we can define our own classes, subclass those classes *and*
the built-in classes (such as button, field, group, card, stack...),
Again, groups and grouped groups can duplicate the functionality
So, in summary, Rev can create an OOP, but an OOP can't create Rev... Jim
on 4/30/05 12:57 PM, Dennis Brown wrote:
On Apr 30, 2005, at 10:51 AM, Frank D. Engel, Jr. wrote:
OTOH, PostScript is a real programming language, a point which a lot
of people seem to miss...
As a point
On Apr 30, 2005, at 7:31 AM, Derek Bump wrote:
it is more of scripting language that a real programming language
which
is awesome for the non-technical developers like me and you, but is
not a
true object oriented application language which is being taught in
universities.
I've made a
I couldn't resist jumping into this one just briefly.
Forth is one of two programming languages I have tried to learn with
complete lack of success. The other is LISP. Both are object-oriented
(at least Forth is in some implementations and LISP is purely). I'm an
object thinker but these two
is good for some
things for which Rev is not suited (mostly apps requiring lots of
interaction with system-level resources and multi-programmer projects)
and Rev is good for some things for which Java is either overkill or
cumbersome (almost everything else...LOL).
On Apr 30, 2005, at 9:12 AM
On Apr 30, 2005, at 1:50 PM, Dan Shafer wrote:
But that's moot. Nobody's going to do either. Java is good for some
things for which Rev is not suited (mostly apps requiring lots of
interaction with system-level resources and multi-programmer
projects) and Rev is good for some things
I used to feel this way. And I don't code in Java myself, preferring
Python when Rev won't do. But the latest changes to Java and the
brilliant IDEs (e.g., Eclipse) and widget toolkits (e.g.,
Windowbuildedr Pro), have really streamlined the dev process. OTOH,
it's still Java, which
As someone already said, your ISP answer is a way to avoid any depth
analysis of Rev capabilities... It's also the usual answer from ppl who
usually struggle with complex programing environments and who are
bitter to see other ppl developping sophisticated apps 2 to 5 times
faster...
I agree
On 22/7/04 1:31 pm, Malte Brill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
2.) Rev-online. I think this could become a cool place if it gets used. What
I really would love to see is how big in KB/MB the stacks are (I just looked
at it, so maybe this is somewhere I havent found yet) I created an account a
few
on 7/22/04 5:31 AM, Malte Brill at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I think it could be useful if the player would allow Autoplay for CD Roms.
This could be implemented by looking for a simple text file e.g. toc.txt
with only one line of text holding the relative path to the stack that
should be
Ummm, maybe it's because I'm a really crappy scripter, but my intro to
Rev/mouse events project I think ended up being 6 MB..
I guess I would have to go back and check to see how much space is due to
my assuming (probably correctly) that the low-end PCs wouldn't do TTS, so
I recorded my Mac doing
I agree:
I also had to pause my mouse over the new tools palette, but I think it
was because I was doing the Rosetta Stone thing in my brain. The new GUI
does look modern, which has to help it in the credibility market.
Also, am I mistaken, or did the new tools palette do away with my
observed
stacks.
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Rob Gould wrote:
I've got a Revolution app that is launched by an .exe file that I created in
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