Re: Ok, OK I will do it, only because I can.
Hi Timo and Jean-Sebastien, Isn't this exaclty what the wiki is for? Just create a page for thequestion (as in an empty page for the tutorial) and people will createthe tutorial if they feel up to it. It's centralized and everyone canedit it. I agree. Iirc collecting worthfull information from the mailing list was one of the main reasons to initiate the wiki. The mails are already collected in two archives and now making new websites with tips from the list would scatter the information more and more and that's excactly what we didn't wanted. We should not keep the knowledge to ourselves. I'll show the example, I will update my website with the trick about the displacement rendering speed (someone gave me a while ago on this list). It would be nice if you could show this at the wiki!? -- Bye Boris - http://www.3ddart.com - Realsoft Image Contest - http://www.realsoft.org -
RE: Ok, OK I will do it, only because I can. was : no wiki problem
I don't have time to understand how WIKI work, remember I am lazy and physicly sick. It's better to host our own tutorial and Robert can always link transparently to them. That way it is easier to make changes. My webstite capacity is 1 gig (there is no limit in fact). So forget WIKI. I made an update yesterday on my website www.neuroworld.ws There are some errors with some links that will be corrected tonight. And by the end of the weekend, all the tutorial will be completed. Please send me your comments. What if WIKI dissapear, Who is WIKI? Recently, I saw some messages from WIKI in some of their pages telling the users to remove some material because there was too much informations not related to an encyclopedia. Wiki is just an encyclopedia, not a place to store informations. I believe that sooner or later they will check that people limit their post to essential information. The best is Robert website for people without a website. It's the best realsoft website. But remember one thing, My website is also a publicity, it's a commercial tool. When I created the tutorial, It wasn't because I wanted to share informations, it was because I wanted some visit on my website. I am not writing on this forum to help people, it's only to make people think of me for my own glory. So writing on my own website is an investment, writing on Roberts website is not. My new e-mail is [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jean-Sebastien Perron www.neuroworld.ws -Message d'origine- De: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] De la part de studio Envoyé: Wednesday, September 20, 2006 11:43 PM À: user-list@light.realsoft3d.com Objet: Re: Ok, OK I will do it, only because I can. was : no wiki problem Ok, anyone with a usefull article or answer to any realsoft problem: -Send me an html file with a folder of the same name -The title of the article should be the question -In the foloder should be all the pictures or videos related to that webpage. Jean-Sebastien Perron www.neuroworld.ws Jean : Sorry , I know your heart is in the right place , but no , this is not a good idea . There is already too much splintering going on as far as Web Sites with RS inform- ation on them . Right , now , in my opinion , the best thing to do is pick the #1 RS site and work toward expanding it's know- ledge base . That site , in my humble opinion would have to be Robert denbroeders Web Site . Robert is a selfless person who is not only a beta-test- er , but also a huge supporter of the Realsoft3D community in many, many ways . Have a look at his tutorials alone ! http://members.chello.nl/rbroeder/ BJ is another , but he runs the forum , which can be very usefull too , of course . As I said in an earlier mail , Satu was in the process of constructing an official , extensive Realsoft3D Web Site before she left the community (I know she is probably still around somewhat and wishing I would cool down) (grin) . I would say get behind Robert's initiative with the energy that you have . Get in touch with Robert and ask him if you could write a tutorial and if he would host it . This is really what the RS3D community actually needs I think. A single site for people to go to first , with extensive tutor- ials and 3D objects Textures Links (etc etc etc) . If you look closely at Roberts Layout you will see he has the most perfect design . It's brilliant , actually , by a longshot. Adding pertinent info to your own RS3D interface could be as easy as visiting Roberts site and clicking on your Tab of choice ... I myself tried to create Realsoft3D tutorials that would fit right in with Roberts basic Web Page design . It's a good solid basic design and easy to use . What do you , yourself think about this suggestion ? Garry
RE: Ok, OK I will do it, only because I can. was : no wiki problem
Ok, that's nice. But, could we store 10meg video tutorial or else? Jean-Sebastien Perron www.neuroworld.ca -Message d'origine- De : [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] De la part de Matthias Kappenberg Envoyé : Thursday, September 21, 2006 1:37 PM À : user-list@light.realsoft3d.com Objet : Re: Ok, OK I will do it, only because I can. was : no wiki problem What if WIKI dissapear, Who is WIKI? Why should it disappear? Wiki is an OpenSource PHP Project. The informations in the RS-Wiki has nothing to do with the wikipedia.org, they are stored not in the same database, the RS-Wiki is running on another server (1und1.de). It's totally independent from other Wikis. The Domain-Owner is: Matthias Kappenberg Gustav-Brandt-Str. 10 D-30173 Hannover mail(at)the-dimension.com (That's me) Hope this is helpy, Matthias
Ok, OK I will do it, only because I can.
Ok, anyone with a usefull article or answer to any realsoft problem: -Send me an html file with a folder of the same name -The title of the article should be the question -In the foloder should be all the pictures or videos related to that webpage. Example : Forler---[hdri] -pictures -videos -other html pages -hdri.html So one main html file with a folder of the same name with everything insde FOR EACH QUESTION/SOLUTION I will post them on my tutorial page with an index per question. Like that : -How to do a quick hdri? -How to create a monster? -How to controll the complete animation of a character with only one channel? -etc What you said Gary about losing precious info on this list is true. I know because I aske the same question about displacement speed many times. I just don't like the condescending tone you use Gary. Maybe you could compile some interesting posting on this list and edit them to .html and send them to me. I will post them on my website. So, please everyone, be carefull on this list. We are gentlemens with only one thing in common : the passion for Realsoft. So keep the intelectual level to the expectations. Jean-Sebastien Perron www.neuroworld.ws -Message d'origine- De : [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] De la part de studio Envoyé : Wednesday, September 20, 2006 1:47 AM À : user-list@light.realsoft3d.com Objet : Re: no wiki problem You have a point Gary, we should, if we can, put as much possible to advance the community. But it's not an obligation . Not an obligation ? Hmmm ... Do you not feel an obligation of some small amount toward the society that you live in ? I dare you to say no . If you are a 'Leader' in the society that you live in , how can you not contribute ? In my mind , if you are of the 'Leader' status in your society , then you _must_ contribute ! However , in the RS3D society , leaders show awesome works without direction on how the rest of us may follow . Why ? Because the last thing they want is for us to follow ... and pass them easily ! It's the same all over the world . Those on the inside track certainly do not want to share the knowledge that they have gained via their gravitational interactions . Of course , what comes around goes around , and that can be a bitch . Always-always-always there will be those that are hoar-ders and all 'the rest of us' can do is point them out whenever we have the opportunity . And for the wide variety of subjects and opinions on this list : It's a free bonus. This list is like an X-Box or Playstation Game to many . Another diversion is all . I say it 'till I'm Blue In The Face ; Concrete Contribution is all that matters ... Jump on IRC and you will meet all kinds of people who are willing to help you . You say RS3D is too slow but did you ever contact Vesa of Juha and ask them directly ? Robert d. and bore,us J are solid contributers but most are just lazy people looking to kill time at work via the RS3D list . Spew to the list ... who cares , it will all be washed away tomorrow , as everything that is posted to this list inevitably is (no one seems to get it[bizzare]) . Jean-Sebastien Perron www.neuroworld.cws Garry my web situation is currently in deep flux http://tinyurl.com/hw5cl
Re: Ok, OK I will do it, only because I can.
Hey guys, Question, it wouldn't be very hard to set up a server to archive these emails and have a nice interface for us userlists to browse / search through them... or are they being stored anywhere already? (this would ideally be in addition to the solution mentioned above...) Daniel On 9/20/06, Jean-Seastien Perron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, anyone with a usefull article or answer to any realsoft problem: -Send me an html file with a folder of the same name -The title of the article should be the question -In the foloder should be all the pictures or videos related to that webpage. Example : Forler---[hdri] -pictures -videos -other html pages -hdri.html So one main html file with a folder of the same name with everything insde FOR EACH QUESTION/SOLUTION I will post them on my tutorial page with an index per question. Like that : -How to do a quick hdri? -How to create a monster? -How to controll the complete animation of a character with only one channel? -etc What you said Gary about losing precious info on this list is true. I know because I aske the same question about displacement speed many times. I just don't like the condescending tone you use Gary. Maybe you could compile some interesting posting on this list and edit them to .html and send them to me. I will post them on my website. So, please everyone, be carefull on this list. We are gentlemens with only one thing in common : the passion for Realsoft. So keep the intelectual level to the expectations. Jean-Sebastien Perron www.neuroworld.ws -Message d'origine- De: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] De la part de studio Envoyé: Wednesday, September 20, 2006 1:47 AM À: user-list@light.realsoft3d.com Objet: Re: no wiki problem You have a point Gary, we should, if we can, put as much possible to advance the community. But it's not an obligation . Not an obligation ? Hmmm ... Do you not feel an obligation of some small amount toward the society that you live in ? I dare you to say no . If you are a 'Leader' in the society that you live in , how can you not contribute ? In my mind , if you are of the 'Leader' status in your society , then you _must_ contribute ! However , in the RS3D society , leaders show awesome works without direction on how the rest of us may follow . Why ? Because the last thing they want is for us to follow ... and pass them easily ! It's the same all over the world . Those on the inside track certainly do not want to share the knowledge that they have gained via their gravitational interactions . Of course , what comes around goes around , and that can be a bitch . Always-always-always there will be those that are hoar-ders and all 'the rest of us' can do is point them out whenever we have the opportunity . And for the wide variety of subjects and opinions on this list : It's a free bonus. This list is like an X-Box or Playstation Game to many . Another diversion is all . I say it 'till I'm Blue In The Face ; Concrete Contribution is all that matters ... Jump on IRC and you will meet all kinds of people who are willing to help you . You say RS3D is too slow but did you ever contact Vesa of Juha and ask them directly ? Robert d. and bore,us J are solid contributers but most are just lazy people looking to kill time at work via the RS3D list . Spew to the list ... who cares , it will all be washed away tomorrow , as everything that is posted to this list inevitably is (no one seems to get it[bizzare]) . Jean-Sebastien Perron www.neuroworld.cws Garry my web situation is currently in deep flux http://tinyurl.com/hw5cl
Re: Ok, OK I will do it, only because I can.
Hey guy ;) Daniel, it wouldn't be very hard to set up a server to archive these emails and have a nice interface for us userlists to browse / search through them... or are they being stored anywhere already? You'll find the links in the links section of the Realsoft website. Here they are ... reaching far back. But I think for 2004 are the mails missing. http://mailarchivers.ncsa.uiuc.edu/cgi-bin/mailarchivers/viewarchive.pl?type=MAILarchive=REALTHREEDusername=ANONYMOUS http://www.mail-archive.com/user-list@light.realsoft3d.com -- Bye Boris - http://www.3ddart.com - Realsoft Image Contest - http://www.realsoft.org -
RE: Ok, OK I will do it, only because I can.
This is very interesting, So I guess it solve all the problems. Next time I will double check what I write. It's a must be very in needs solution though. Next time I see a bright question and solution, I will compile it and edit it to put on my website. Only if I have time for it : ) Gary is right, the lists and post on a forum is not as good as a small webpage accessible to anyone in one click in a tutorial or faq section. IF, everytime someone is stuck with a problem and ask this list, when he find the solution, he should write a small resumé of the problem and the solution and give it to me, I will put them on my website. I have 2 website. That should be the punishment of the person daring asking a question on this list and bothering everyone (--exageration--). I mean the people that take time to answer the questions (most of time it's the same 4-5 person) deserve that little service. And they should write the name of the people giving them the solution as a (thank you). We should not keep the knowledge to ourselves. I'll show the example, I will update my website with the trick about the displacement rendering speed (someone gave me a while ago on this list). Jean-Sebastien Perron www.neuroworld.ca -Message d'origine- De : [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] De la part de Boris Jahn Envoyé : Wednesday, September 20, 2006 2:54 PM À : user-list@light.realsoft3d.com Objet : RE: Ok, OK I will do it, only because I can. Hi Jean-Sebastian, I like the feel that this list is private. Even if it's just an illusion. The point is that if we knew these reply were compiled on a database (and accessible), we would not discuss as we did in the past. But this list isn't private since long time. Simply check the both links to the mail-archives I've posted. -- Bye Boris - http://www.3ddart.com - Realsoft Image Contest - http://www.realsoft.org -
Re: Ok, OK I will do it, only because I can.
Isn't this exaclty what the wiki is for? Just create a page for thequestion (as in an empty page for the tutorial) and people will createthe tutorial if they feel up to it. It's centralized and everyone canedit it. On 20/09/06, Jean-Seastien Perron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is very interesting, So I guess it solve all the problems. Next time I will double check what I write. It's a must be very in needs solution though. Next time I see a bright question and solution, I will compile it and edit it to put on my website. Only if I have time for it : ) Gary is right, the lists and post on a forum is not as good as a small webpage accessible to anyone in one click in a tutorial or faq section. IF, everytime someone is stuck with a problem and ask this list, when he find the solution, he should write a small resumé of the problem and the solution and give it to me, I will put them on my website. I have 2 website. That should be the punishment of the person daring asking a question on this list and bothering everyone (--exageration--). I mean the people that take time to answer the questions (most of time it's the same 4-5 person) deserve that little service. And they should write the name of the people giving them the solution as a (thank you). We should not keep the knowledge to ourselves. I'll show the example, I will update my website with the trick about the displacement rendering speed (someone gave me a while ago on this list). Jean-Sebastien Perron www.neuroworld.ca -Message d'origine- De: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] De la part de Boris Jahn Envoyé: Wednesday, September 20, 2006 2:54 PM Ŕ: user-list@light.realsoft3d.com Objet: RE: Ok, OK I will do it, only because I can. Hi Jean-Sebastian, I like the feel that this list is private. Even if it's just an illusion. The point is that if we knew these reply were compiled on a database (and accessible), we would not discuss as we did in the past. But this list isn't private since long time. Simply check the both links to the mail-archives I've posted. -- Bye Boris - http://www.3ddart.com - Realsoft Image Contest - http://www.realsoft.org -
