Re: [libreoffice-users] sort order

2017-03-13 Thread Gary Collins
Got them! Thank you so much for these, will take me a bit of time to absorb but 
i'm sure they'll be useful.

/Gary


On Mon, 13/3/17, Michael D. Setzer II <mi...@kuentos.guam.net> wrote:

 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] sort order
 To: users@global.libreoffice.org, "leleu" <robert.le...@ovh.fr>, "Gary 
Collins" <gcatl...@yahoo.co.uk>
 Date: Monday, 13 March, 2017, 5:00
 
 ftp://fedora9gcc.dyndns.org/gary.zip
 
 Has 3 little spreadsheets.
    8969  03-12-2017
 03:27   FINDCODE.ods
    
 14959  03-12-2017 05:04   casematch.ods
     12025  03-13-2017
 03:38   sortissue.ods
 
 That address some solutions I came up with
 playing with how I understood 
 the issues,
 which might be wrong, but these seem to work as I see it.
 
 Tried pasting the cells, and
 they look fine in the email I sent, but were totally 
 screwed up by the list? Then tried taken a
 screen shot, but those emails 
 never seemed
 to show up, and no message that they were rejected?
 
 Put this file on one of my
 college ftp servers, so if someone takes a look and 
 sees if it works or not, otherwise. I'll
 just stop messing with it. 
 
 
 
 On 12 Mar
 2017 at 18:20, Gary Collins wrote:
 
 Date sent:          Sun, 12 Mar 2017
 18:20:29 + (UTC)
 From:       
    Gary Collins <gcatl...@yahoo.co.uk>
 Send reply to:      Gary Collins <gcatl...@yahoo.co.uk>
 To:             <users@global.libreoffice.org>,
 leleu 
 <robert.le...@ovh.fr>
 Subject:            Re:
 [libreoffice-users] sort order
 
 > Wow, yes, that sounds the sort of thing.
 It would need to be customisable, I'm not sure that the
 sequence used for the transliteration of hieroglyphs would
 necesarily be catered for 
 > Gary
 >
 
 > On Sun, 12/3/17, leleu <robert.le...@ovh.fr>
 wrote:
 > 
 >  Subject:
 Re: [libreoffice-users] sort order
 > 
 To: users@global.libreoffice.org
 >  Date: Sunday, 12 March, 2017, 18:07
 >  
 >  see
 >  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unicode_collation_algorithm
 >  now the problem is "where is the
 >  "collation algorithm" of calc
 ? An 
 >  algorithm which obviously has
 to change
 >  according to the
 language.
 >  
 > 
 Je la 12/03/2017 18:50, Gary Collins skribis
 >  :
 >  > Thank you,
 yes it does. I got it to
 >  work with
 Greek iota which is about the least obtrusive.
 >  Strangely (to my mind) some less
 obtrusive characters with
 >  higher
 unicode *dont* work. Its a bit of a mystery whats
 >  going on, i can only surmise that there
 is somewhere a table
 >  of
 'blacklisted' characters which are not taken into
 >  account for sorting purposes. This new
 (ish) sort order lark
 >  has been a
 right pain in the proverbials for me, generally
 >  speaking. I'll now just scour the
 table in the hope of
 >  finding
 something even better but at least there is
 >  *something* that'll work
 >  >
 >  >
 Thanks,
 >  > G.
 >  >
 > 
 
 >  > On Sun, 12/3/17, Brian Barker
 <b.m.bar...@btinternet.com>
 >  wrote:
 >  >
 >  >   Subject: Re:
 >  [libreoffice-users] sort order
 >  >   To: users@global.libreoffice.org
 >  >   Date: Sunday, 12 March,
 2017,
 >  5:51
 > 
 >   
 >  >   At 17:58
 11/03/2017 +,
 >  Gary
 >  >   Collins wrote:
 >  >   >I'd like to know if
 >  there is a character, preferably
 >  >   some sort of
 >  >   >discrete punctuation
 >  mark, that will come *after* z in
 >  >   the sort
 >  >   >order when using
 natural
 >  sort. My problem is that i
 have
 >  >   some codes
 >  >   >beginning Aa which
 really
 >  speaking should come after
 Z.
 >  >   As a number
 >  >   >of up to 3 digits
 follows
 >  the letter(s) in each case,
 im
 >  >   getting A#
 >  >   >followed by Aa# then B#
 >  which really wont do. I have to
 >  >   use natural
 >  >   >sort as i need eg A12
 to
 >  come after A3. Ive tried a few
 >  >   punctuation
 >  >   >characters and some
 >  special characters but i cant find
 >  >   one that
 >  >   >works. Any light that
 can
 >  be shed on this would be very
 >  >   welcome
 > 
 >   >indeed. I really dont
 > 
 want to have to precede Aa with a
 > 
 >   z if that
 >  >   >can
 possibly be
 >  avoided.
 >  >   
 > 
 >   These are not punctuation
 > 
 marks, but a bit of
 > 
 >   experimentation
 > 
 >   suggests that any Greek
 > 
 character, upper or lower case, will
 > 
 >   serve.
 >  >   
 >  >   I trust this helps.
 >  >   
 > 
 >   Brian Barker
 >  >  

Re: [libreoffice-users] sort order

2017-03-13 Thread Gary Collins
Wow, yes, that sounds the sort of thing. It would need to be customisable, I'm 
not sure that the sequence used for the transliteration of hieroglyphs would 
necesarily be catered for 
Gary

On Sun, 12/3/17, leleu <robert.le...@ovh.fr> wrote:

 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] sort order
 To: users@global.libreoffice.org
 Date: Sunday, 12 March, 2017, 18:07
 
 see
 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unicode_collation_algorithm
 now the problem is "where is the
 "collation algorithm" of calc ? An 
 algorithm which obviously has to change
 according to the language.
 
 Je la 12/03/2017 18:50, Gary Collins skribis
 :
 > Thank you, yes it does. I got it to
 work with Greek iota which is about the least obtrusive.
 Strangely (to my mind) some less obtrusive characters with
 higher unicode *dont* work. Its a bit of a mystery whats
 going on, i can only surmise that there is somewhere a table
 of 'blacklisted' characters which are not taken into
 account for sorting purposes. This new (ish) sort order lark
 has been a right pain in the proverbials for me, generally
 speaking. I'll now just scour the table in the hope of
 finding something even better but at least there is
 *something* that'll work
 >
 > Thanks,
 > G.
 >
 
 > On Sun, 12/3/17, Brian Barker <b.m.bar...@btinternet.com>
 wrote:
 >
 >   Subject: Re:
 [libreoffice-users] sort order
 >   To: users@global.libreoffice.org
 >   Date: Sunday, 12 March, 2017,
 5:51
 >   
 >   At 17:58 11/03/2017 +,
 Gary
 >   Collins wrote:
 >   >I'd like to know if
 there is a character, preferably
 >   some sort of
 >   >discrete punctuation
 mark, that will come *after* z in
 >   the sort
 >   >order when using natural
 sort. My problem is that i have
 >   some codes
 >   >beginning Aa which really
 speaking should come after Z.
 >   As a number
 >   >of up to 3 digits follows
 the letter(s) in each case, im
 >   getting A#
 >   >followed by Aa# then B#
 which really wont do. I have to
 >   use natural
 >   >sort as i need eg A12 to
 come after A3. Ive tried a few
 >   punctuation
 >   >characters and some
 special characters but i cant find
 >   one that
 >   >works. Any light that can
 be shed on this would be very
 >   welcome
 >   >indeed. I really dont
 want to have to precede Aa with a
 >   z if that
 >   >can possibly be
 avoided.
 >   
 >   These are not punctuation
 marks, but a bit of
 >   experimentation
 >   suggests that any Greek
 character, upper or lower case, will
 >   serve.
 >   
 >   I trust this helps.
 >   
 >   Brian Barker
 >   
 >   
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Re: [libreoffice-users] sort order

2017-03-12 Thread Michael D. Setzer II
ftp://fedora9gcc.dyndns.org/gary.zip

Has 3 little spreadsheets.
   8969  03-12-2017 03:27   FINDCODE.ods
14959  03-12-2017 05:04   casematch.ods
12025  03-13-2017 03:38   sortissue.ods

That address some solutions I came up with playing with how I understood 
the issues, which might be wrong, but these seem to work as I see it.

Tried pasting the cells, and they look fine in the email I sent, but were 
totally 
screwed up by the list? Then tried taken a screen shot, but those emails 
never seemed to show up, and no message that they were rejected?

Put this file on one of my college ftp servers, so if someone takes a look and 
sees if it works or not, otherwise. I'll just stop messing with it. 



On 12 Mar 2017 at 18:20, Gary Collins wrote:

Date sent:  Sun, 12 Mar 2017 18:20:29 + (UTC)
From:   Gary Collins <gcatl...@yahoo.co.uk>
Send reply to:  Gary Collins <gcatl...@yahoo.co.uk>
To: <users@global.libreoffice.org>, leleu 
<robert.le...@ovh.fr>
Subject:    Re: [libreoffice-users] sort order

> Wow, yes, that sounds the sort of thing. It would need to be customisable, 
> I'm not sure that the sequence used for the transliteration of hieroglyphs 
> would necesarily be catered for 
> Gary
> 
> On Sun, 12/3/17, leleu <robert.le...@ovh.fr> wrote:
> 
>  Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] sort order
>  To: users@global.libreoffice.org
>  Date: Sunday, 12 March, 2017, 18:07
>  
>  see
>  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unicode_collation_algorithm
>  now the problem is "where is the
>  "collation algorithm" of calc ? An 
>  algorithm which obviously has to change
>  according to the language.
>  
>  Je la 12/03/2017 18:50, Gary Collins skribis
>  :
>  > Thank you, yes it does. I got it to
>  work with Greek iota which is about the least obtrusive.
>  Strangely (to my mind) some less obtrusive characters with
>  higher unicode *dont* work. Its a bit of a mystery whats
>  going on, i can only surmise that there is somewhere a table
>  of 'blacklisted' characters which are not taken into
>  account for sorting purposes. This new (ish) sort order lark
>  has been a right pain in the proverbials for me, generally
>  speaking. I'll now just scour the table in the hope of
>  finding something even better but at least there is
>  *something* that'll work
>  >
>  > Thanks,
>  > G.
>  >
>  ----
>  > On Sun, 12/3/17, Brian Barker <b.m.bar...@btinternet.com>
>  wrote:
>  >
>  >   Subject: Re:
>  [libreoffice-users] sort order
>  >   To: users@global.libreoffice.org
>  >   Date: Sunday, 12 March, 2017,
>  5:51
>  >   
>  >   At 17:58 11/03/2017 +,
>  Gary
>  >   Collins wrote:
>  >   >I'd like to know if
>  there is a character, preferably
>  >   some sort of
>  >   >discrete punctuation
>  mark, that will come *after* z in
>  >   the sort
>  >   >order when using natural
>  sort. My problem is that i have
>  >   some codes
>  >   >beginning Aa which really
>  speaking should come after Z.
>  >   As a number
>  >   >of up to 3 digits follows
>  the letter(s) in each case, im
>  >   getting A#
>  >   >followed by Aa# then B#
>  which really wont do. I have to
>  >   use natural
>  >   >sort as i need eg A12 to
>  come after A3. Ive tried a few
>  >   punctuation
>  >   >characters and some
>  special characters but i cant find
>  >   one that
>  >   >works. Any light that can
>  be shed on this would be very
>  >   welcome
>  >   >indeed. I really dont
>  want to have to precede Aa with a
>  >   z if that
>  >   >can possibly be
>  avoided.
>  >   
>  >   These are not punctuation
>  marks, but a bit of
>  >   experimentation
>  >   suggests that any Greek
>  character, upper or lower case, will
>  >   serve.
>  >   
>  >   I trust this helps.
>  >   
>  >   Brian Barker
>  >   
>  >   
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Re: [libreoffice-users] sort order

2017-03-12 Thread Gary Collins
Wow, yes, that sounds the sort of thing. It would need to be customisable, I'm 
not sure that the sequence used for the transliteration of hieroglyphs would 
necesarily be catered for 
Gary

On Sun, 12/3/17, leleu <robert.le...@ovh.fr> wrote:

 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] sort order
 To: users@global.libreoffice.org
 Date: Sunday, 12 March, 2017, 18:07
 
 see
 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unicode_collation_algorithm
 now the problem is "where is the
 "collation algorithm" of calc ? An 
 algorithm which obviously has to change
 according to the language.
 
 Je la 12/03/2017 18:50, Gary Collins skribis
 :
 > Thank you, yes it does. I got it to
 work with Greek iota which is about the least obtrusive.
 Strangely (to my mind) some less obtrusive characters with
 higher unicode *dont* work. Its a bit of a mystery whats
 going on, i can only surmise that there is somewhere a table
 of 'blacklisted' characters which are not taken into
 account for sorting purposes. This new (ish) sort order lark
 has been a right pain in the proverbials for me, generally
 speaking. I'll now just scour the table in the hope of
 finding something even better but at least there is
 *something* that'll work
 >
 > Thanks,
 > G.
 >
 
 > On Sun, 12/3/17, Brian Barker <b.m.bar...@btinternet.com>
 wrote:
 >
 >   Subject: Re:
 [libreoffice-users] sort order
 >   To: users@global.libreoffice.org
 >   Date: Sunday, 12 March, 2017,
 5:51
 >   
 >   At 17:58 11/03/2017 +,
 Gary
 >   Collins wrote:
 >   >I'd like to know if
 there is a character, preferably
 >   some sort of
 >   >discrete punctuation
 mark, that will come *after* z in
 >   the sort
 >   >order when using natural
 sort. My problem is that i have
 >   some codes
 >   >beginning Aa which really
 speaking should come after Z.
 >   As a number
 >   >of up to 3 digits follows
 the letter(s) in each case, im
 >   getting A#
 >   >followed by Aa# then B#
 which really wont do. I have to
 >   use natural
 >   >sort as i need eg A12 to
 come after A3. Ive tried a few
 >   punctuation
 >   >characters and some
 special characters but i cant find
 >   one that
 >   >works. Any light that can
 be shed on this would be very
 >   welcome
 >   >indeed. I really dont
 want to have to precede Aa with a
 >   z if that
 >   >can possibly be
 avoided.
 >   
 >   These are not punctuation
 marks, but a bit of
 >   experimentation
 >   suggests that any Greek
 character, upper or lower case, will
 >   serve.
 >   
 >   I trust this helps.
 >   
 >   Brian Barker
 >   
 >   
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Re: [libreoffice-users] sort order

2017-03-12 Thread Gary Collins
Got it! I can replace the ''A" in my "Aa" with Greek alpha (or with Russian 
'A') and it works perfectly, with the minor exception that the non English 
characters look as if they have come from a different font. But I can live with 
that, I think it's the best solution possible.

Thanks
Gary

On Sun, 12/3/17, Brian Barker <b.m.bar...@btinternet.com> wrote:

 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] sort order
 To: users@global.libreoffice.org
 Date: Sunday, 12 March, 2017, 5:51
 
 At 17:58 11/03/2017 +, Gary
 Collins wrote:
 >I'd like to know if there is a character, preferably
 some sort of 
 >discrete punctuation mark, that will come *after* z in
 the sort 
 >order when using natural sort. My problem is that i have
 some codes 
 >beginning Aa which really speaking should come after Z.
 As a number 
 >of up to 3 digits follows the letter(s) in each case, im
 getting A# 
 >followed by Aa# then B# which really wont do. I have to
 use natural 
 >sort as i need eg A12 to come after A3. Ive tried a few
 punctuation 
 >characters and some special characters but i cant find
 one that 
 >works. Any light that can be shed on this would be very
 welcome 
 >indeed. I really dont want to have to precede Aa with a
 z if that 
 >can possibly be avoided.
 
 These are not punctuation marks, but a bit of
 experimentation 
 suggests that any Greek character, upper or lower case, will
 serve.
 
 I trust this helps.
 
 Brian Barker
 
 
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Re: [libreoffice-users] sort order

2017-03-12 Thread leleu
for instance, see 
http://collation-charts.org/mysql60/mysql604.utf8_unicode_ci.european.html

Je la 12/03/2017 19:07, leleu skribis :

see
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unicode_collation_algorithm
now the problem is "where is the "collation algorithm" of calc ? An 
algorithm which obviously has to change according to the language.


Je la 12/03/2017 18:50, Gary Collins skribis :
Thank you, yes it does. I got it to work with Greek iota which is 
about the least obtrusive. Strangely (to my mind) some less obtrusive 
characters with higher unicode *dont* work. Its a bit of a mystery 
whats going on, i can only surmise that there is somewhere a table of 
'blacklisted' characters which are not taken into account for sorting 
purposes. This new (ish) sort order lark has been a right pain in the 
proverbials for me, generally speaking. I'll now just scour the table 
in the hope of finding something even better but at least there is 
*something* that'll work


Thanks,
G.

On Sun, 12/3/17, Brian Barker <b.m.bar...@btinternet.com> wrote:

  Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] sort order
  To: users@global.libreoffice.org
  Date: Sunday, 12 March, 2017, 5:51
At 17:58 11/03/2017 +, Gary
  Collins wrote:
  >I'd like to know if there is a character, preferably
  some sort of
  >discrete punctuation mark, that will come *after* z in
  the sort
  >order when using natural sort. My problem is that i have
  some codes
  >beginning Aa which really speaking should come after Z.
  As a number
  >of up to 3 digits follows the letter(s) in each case, im
  getting A#
  >followed by Aa# then B# which really wont do. I have to
  use natural
  >sort as i need eg A12 to come after A3. Ive tried a few
  punctuation
  >characters and some special characters but i cant find
  one that
  >works. Any light that can be shed on this would be very
  welcome
  >indeed. I really dont want to have to precede Aa with a
  z if that
  >can possibly be avoided.
These are not punctuation marks, but a bit of
  experimentation
  suggests that any Greek character, upper or lower case, will
  serve.
I trust this helps.
Brian Barker
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Re: [libreoffice-users] sort order

2017-03-12 Thread leleu

see
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unicode_collation_algorithm
now the problem is "where is the "collation algorithm" of calc ? An 
algorithm which obviously has to change according to the language.


Je la 12/03/2017 18:50, Gary Collins skribis :

Thank you, yes it does. I got it to work with Greek iota which is about the 
least obtrusive. Strangely (to my mind) some less obtrusive characters with 
higher unicode *dont* work. Its a bit of a mystery whats going on, i can only 
surmise that there is somewhere a table of 'blacklisted' characters which are 
not taken into account for sorting purposes. This new (ish) sort order lark has 
been a right pain in the proverbials for me, generally speaking. I'll now just 
scour the table in the hope of finding something even better but at least there 
is *something* that'll work

Thanks,
G.

On Sun, 12/3/17, Brian Barker <b.m.bar...@btinternet.com> wrote:

  Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] sort order
  To: users@global.libreoffice.org
  Date: Sunday, 12 March, 2017, 5:51
  
  At 17:58 11/03/2017 +, Gary

  Collins wrote:
  >I'd like to know if there is a character, preferably
  some sort of
  >discrete punctuation mark, that will come *after* z in
  the sort
  >order when using natural sort. My problem is that i have
  some codes
  >beginning Aa which really speaking should come after Z.
  As a number
  >of up to 3 digits follows the letter(s) in each case, im
  getting A#
  >followed by Aa# then B# which really wont do. I have to
  use natural
  >sort as i need eg A12 to come after A3. Ive tried a few
  punctuation
  >characters and some special characters but i cant find
  one that
  >works. Any light that can be shed on this would be very
  welcome
  >indeed. I really dont want to have to precede Aa with a
  z if that
  >can possibly be avoided.
  
  These are not punctuation marks, but a bit of

  experimentation
  suggests that any Greek character, upper or lower case, will
  serve.
  
  I trust this helps.
  
  Brian Barker
  
  
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Re: [libreoffice-users] sort order

2017-03-12 Thread Gary Collins
Thank you, yes it does. I got it to work with Greek iota which is about the 
least obtrusive. Strangely (to my mind) some less obtrusive characters with 
higher unicode *dont* work. Its a bit of a mystery whats going on, i can only 
surmise that there is somewhere a table of 'blacklisted' characters which are 
not taken into account for sorting purposes. This new (ish) sort order lark has 
been a right pain in the proverbials for me, generally speaking. I'll now just 
scour the table in the hope of finding something even better but at least there 
is *something* that'll work

Thanks,
G.

On Sun, 12/3/17, Brian Barker <b.m.bar...@btinternet.com> wrote:

 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] sort order
 To: users@global.libreoffice.org
 Date: Sunday, 12 March, 2017, 5:51
 
 At 17:58 11/03/2017 +, Gary
 Collins wrote:
 >I'd like to know if there is a character, preferably
 some sort of 
 >discrete punctuation mark, that will come *after* z in
 the sort 
 >order when using natural sort. My problem is that i have
 some codes 
 >beginning Aa which really speaking should come after Z.
 As a number 
 >of up to 3 digits follows the letter(s) in each case, im
 getting A# 
 >followed by Aa# then B# which really wont do. I have to
 use natural 
 >sort as i need eg A12 to come after A3. Ive tried a few
 punctuation 
 >characters and some special characters but i cant find
 one that 
 >works. Any light that can be shed on this would be very
 welcome 
 >indeed. I really dont want to have to precede Aa with a
 z if that 
 >can possibly be avoided.
 
 These are not punctuation marks, but a bit of
 experimentation 
 suggests that any Greek character, upper or lower case, will
 serve.
 
 I trust this helps.
 
 Brian Barker
 
 
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Re: [libreoffice-users] sort order

2017-03-11 Thread Brian Barker

At 17:58 11/03/2017 +, Gary Collins wrote:
I'd like to know if there is a character, preferably some sort of 
discrete punctuation mark, that will come *after* z in the sort 
order when using natural sort. My problem is that i have some codes 
beginning Aa which really speaking should come after Z. As a number 
of up to 3 digits follows the letter(s) in each case, im getting A# 
followed by Aa# then B# which really wont do. I have to use natural 
sort as i need eg A12 to come after A3. Ive tried a few punctuation 
characters and some special characters but i cant find one that 
works. Any light that can be shed on this would be very welcome 
indeed. I really dont want to have to precede Aa with a z if that 
can possibly be avoided.


These are not punctuation marks, but a bit of experimentation 
suggests that any Greek character, upper or lower case, will serve.


I trust this helps.

Brian Barker


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Re: [libreoffice-users] sort order

2017-03-11 Thread leleu
Just google for "characters sorting order"...you'll have to choose by 
yourself...



Je la 11/03/2017 18:58, Gary Collins skribis :

Hello
Id like to know if there is a character, preferably some sort of discreet 
punctuation mark, that will come *after* z in the sort order when using natural 
sort. My problem is that i have some codes beginning Aa which really speaking 
should come after Z. As a number of up to 3 digits follows the letter(s) in 
each case, im getting A# followed by Aa# then B# which really wont do. I have 
to use natural sort as i need eg A12 to come after A3. Ive tried a few 
punctuation characters and some special characters but i cant find one that 
works. Any light that can be shed on this would be very   welcome indeed. I 
really dont want to have to precede Aa with a z if that can possibly be avoided.
Thanks
Gary



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[libreoffice-users] sort order

2017-03-11 Thread Gary Collins
Hello
Id like to know if there is a character, preferably some sort of discreet 
punctuation mark, that will come *after* z in the sort order when using natural 
sort. My problem is that i have some codes beginning Aa which really speaking 
should come after Z. As a number of up to 3 digits follows the letter(s) in 
each case, im getting A# followed by Aa# then B# which really wont do. I have 
to use natural sort as i need eg A12 to come after A3. Ive tried a few 
punctuation characters and some special characters but i cant find one that 
works. Any light that can be shed on this would be very   welcome indeed. I 
really dont want to have to precede Aa with a z if that can possibly be avoided.
Thanks
Gary

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