of
configuration files.
Would it not be fairly easy to let each of the players secret share a
random integer, add all the shared numbers, open the result, and use
that as the computation ID? That is, automate this so that you don't
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I will of course stick around if you guys need anything...
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- If not, then the example apps would need to be updated accordingly.
I see Marcel answered this with lightning speed, cool! :-)
I will, by the way, be available in #viff @ Freenode most of my time
the next couple of days.
I'll like to add that it's very easy to get online:
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Thanks in advance.
Best Wishes
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I have put my dissertation online, please find it here:
http://bitbucket.org/mg/dissertation/downloads/
I'll add a link to the VIFF documentation next.
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something about security can be in the real-world...
Well, my advice to you is to make sure you have everything laid out
nicely in the PYTHONPATH. Then try importing VIFF code in an interactive
Python session -- you can see which code to import from the benchmark.py
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Nigel Smart ni...@compsci.bristol.ac.uk writes:
Whats you complete PYTHONPATH?
Maybe I am not picking up something
It's just the one ~/opt/lib/python directory.
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is instaleld. Which means option a is unlikely to
work.
It's not like it will mess things up to install Python, Twisted, and
GMPY globally. The packages will just sit nicely in the corner and
nobody will notice :-)
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, as my version is 9.0.0
No, it's not as bad as it sounds -- they switched from version 2.x to
version x.something where x is used in year 200x :-)
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Hi Janus,
I like it very much that the benchmark can figure out by itself which
program counters are needed for preprocessing.
Can you change it so that it will only run the benchmark once if it sees
that no preprocessing is needed?
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Sounds very impressive :-)
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and MixColumns into one operation operating on diagonals. I don't know
if that will matter for us?
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? Then just create a repository under
~/repos and it will automatically show up in the web interface. Add
metadata in .hg/hgrc like for the other repositories.
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don't agree with this entirely. gather_shares ignores errors.
Yeah, sort of. It will still pass on the list of results in case of an
error, but some of them will be None or a Failure instance. But so
ShareList is fine.
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+x += xi
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argument.
Thanks, pushed as revision c1259ceebc55!
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, pending an implementation
of Elliptic Curves.
Maybe you should publish the patches as a tree on hg.viff.dk like Marcel
has done -- and then let me know when you're happy with it and want me
to pull it into the main tree.
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such as Gtk2Reactor or WxReactor, VIFF still
will work but without any speed improvements.
Very cool! Thank you very much for sticking with your idea and refining
it like this. I'm pushing it now...
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, but not yet. It needs some minor
adjustments;-)
Well, back to the report writing. Thanks again!
Sounds great, I'll look forward to seeing more.
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Abstract). CRYPTO 1997: 425-439
It might be possible to implement this protocol directly in VIFF,
instead of building things from scratch.
The paper can be found here:
http://www.springerlink.com/content/bq1jxkcuygj287cy/
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or field elements. This greatly simplifies the testing and
readability of the code.
I see, that is indeed a nice property. And it can work some of the way,
as you've seen, but only for simple functions which only do arithmetic
on the shares.
Tord
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= results.addCallback(check_result)
return test_results
Like above you can just add the check_result callback to temp_open and
return temp_open.
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aware that Python only runs on one CPU, a friend pointed that out
to me today. However, the Twisted thread mentioned above would block
on I/O.
Right, that should help us! Janus has been looking more into Python
threads, so be sure to discuss it with him too.
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Martin Geisler m...@daimi.au.dk writes:
I'll try and write a mail to them to explain our problem in more
detail. Maybe your short patch didn't provide enough information when
taken out of context.
I've included a larger answer from Jean-Paul Calderone below -- you can
read in context here
/ float(n))
return value
a.addCallback(step)
b.addCallback(step)
c.addCallback(step)
The idea is to make the callback update the progress bar, but otherwise
pass the value through unharmed.
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'EnumValueCompareError'
viffbench/test/test.py:52: undefined name 'Suite'
in addition to some warnings.
I hope you like the changes, and that they mostly work! :-)
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in the
set form 0 to p-1, but integers from -(p-1)/2 to +(p-1)/2. How
should one do that efficiently?
That should be as simple as
x.value - (x.modulus - 1) // 2
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I suggest that we aim for a release after the weekend, on the 22nd.
Does people think this is a good idea?
It's been a week since I asked and nobody has replied, neither
positively or negatively. So the release is put on hold for now.
To those who
know what you think -- if nobody thinks anything, then we'll
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size things, let's just use the parser you made.
Okay, good. It also comes with a fairly large set of unit tests, which
I found usefull while working with it. I have it as a patch queue here
on DAIMI -- you can clone that or convert it to a normal repository
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your mail client that this is a mailing list?
Of course, if many replies wander off-list because of this, then we
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unpublished.
Of course, Tomas may be slightly better at answering this :-)
Yeah, it would be nice to have this confirmed and then update the
bibliography:
http://viff.dk/doc/bibliography.html
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learn more about Pyparsing. However, regardless of the choice, we
should discuss who will commit to take the lead on it.
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Mikkel Krøigård [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
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I've just sent 22 patches to the viff-patches list:
http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.cryptography.viff.patches/104
They represent yet another attempt at making a SFDL parser. I say
yet another since
, then let me know.
Mikkel and Thomas: you already have access to viff.dk. You can easily
create your own repositories by going to ~/repos on viff.dk and cloning
an existing repository. Then edit the .hg/hgrc file to describe it, look
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, so the time spend on network
communication is as low as it can possible get. I guess that means
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We want to do tests where all local computations are replaced by dummy
implementations. An example would be the multiplications of field
elements done in viff.field.
Having timing results from such a dummy implementation would give us
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This is an idea which I think Thomas came up with first: it would be
very nice if one could limit the memory usage to, say, 200 MiB.
The program should run a normal, but when the memory usage grows above
the limit, the remaining parts
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It should be possible to test a single player in isolation by
replaying old network communication. That would allow us to measure
the time spent on local computations and the overhead from the whole
Twisted machinery.
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Wrong syntax:
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At some point it became illegal to send data to oneself, and so the
code looks like this in several places (this is from open):
if peer_id == self.id:
d = Share(self, share.field, (share.field(peer_id), share))
else:
d = self
, also for performance. I suggest that we use a
round-robin system where we determine the perticipating subset based on
the current program counter.
So far I have a failing unit test which clearly shows the bug, I'll try
and fix it now.
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That would be a good idea, also for performance. I suggest that we use
a round-robin system where we determine the perticipating subset based
on the current program counter.
Code for this would look like this:
diff --git a/viff/runtime.py b/viff
to richest:
Millionaire 3
Millionaire 2
Millionaire 1 (193 millions)
and I can understand why you don't get this output with your code.
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Amitabh Saxena [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Hi Amitabh
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Date: Mon, Sep 15, 2008 at 2:08 PM
Subject: Re: error while installing viff
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Thanks Martin,
I will try the installation
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I'm getting errors like this from the Roundup tracker:
Traceback (most recent call last):
File /users/viff/opt/lib/python/roundup/cgi/client.py, line 303,
in inner_main
html = self.handle_action()
File /users/viff/opt/lib/python
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We've promised to make a converter which can read a SFDL program and
turn it into an equivalent VIFF program.
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I've looked at the GMPY code, and it is a fairly straightforward
wrapper for the GMP library, as you describe.
But I don't know if it makes it easier for us to benchmark just
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I have done some testing and come up with some strange numbers. I
measured the time each individual multiplication takes by storing
a timestamp
hope you like it -- let me know if you find any problems!
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Hi Martin,
I have a couple of stupid questions:
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I've attached two plots, one for 1000 multiplications and one for
4000. Each plot has the multiplication-number on the x-axis and the
time for that multiplication on the y
Martin Geisler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Hi everybody,
I have done some testing and come up with some strange numbers. I
measured the time each individual multiplication takes by storing a
timestamp when the multiplication is scheduled, and another when it
finishes.
Here is another plot
to the select() function, which is the one used in the event loop to
sleep while waiting for data from a set of file descriptors.
Exercise: if you can measure 1) and 2), how do you measure 3)? :-)
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better way?
Also, would it make sense to let the default query sort by priority
instead of by activity?
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in various
locations around the world? :)
Sure, why not... No, wait a minute -- you didn't say please! Sorry,
no computer for you today!
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Mikkel Krøigård [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
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I have already made a script which uses SSH to start any number
of playes here on DAIMI, and I've used it to test up to 25
players (it took 15 ms on average for a 32-bit passively secure
multiplication
Adam Langley [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
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I think it would be very interesting to setup a system using this
so-called network emulator:
http://wanem.sourceforge.net/
This is the common way to do such things:
http
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Martin Geisler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
You can find a list of the so-called simple bugs here:
http://ln-s.net/2E+7
Here is another query which is interesting for the upcoming release:
http://ln-s.net/2E+a
It selects the bugs closed since the release of VIFF 0.6 (2008-05-28
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Thanks for the vote of confidence. I think NaCl gets paged into my
brain tomorrow. I'll see if I can get the shared library support
done.
See the patch set at
http
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Okay. If you want to, you can get all the repository- and web-space
you want on viff.dk. Or maybe you could put up the bindings on
pypi?
Thanks for the offer. I'm not sure where
bindings so soon, so this is just like an early Christmas present :-)
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explains it quite well:
http://twistedmatrix.com/projects/core/documentation/howto/defer.html#auto2
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Ivan Bjerre Damgaard [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
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I began looking at card shuffling because I want to make a small
tutorial for VIFF, something that will explain how to make a
program. And for that I figured that some card game would be cool.
I don't
Martin Geisler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
It does 466 comparisons to sort 52 numbers (32-bit) and it takes
about 4 minutes both share and sort the numbers on thyra{01,02,03}
on DAIMI.
In case nobody has noticed, I wanted to see how long it would take to
sort 52 numbers since doing so would
should compare it to the Java code found here:
http://iti.fh-flensburg.de/lang/algorithmen/sortieren/bitonic/oddn.htm#section4
It does 466 comparisons to sort 52 numbers (32-bit) and it takes about
4 minutes both share and sort the numbers on thyra{01,02,03} on DAIMI.
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Like mul, Runtime.xor should do a local computation if one of the
operands is a known constant.
Right now it just wraps whatever it gets and calls add and mul, and
because of the wrapping a slow multiplication will take place.
Maybe
of the 48000 calls it might sum up :-)
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Martin Geisler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Strangely the time for preprocessing has not improved... It stayed
at an average time of about *20 ms* for a multiplication triple both
before and after the change -- I don't understand that :-(
I do now! :-)
It turned out that the preprocessing
inlining -- I'm not sure.
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I would of course be happy to setup repositories for all of you
guys!
Another option would be to put a clone here:
http://www.bitbucket.org/
I have heard a lot of good feedback about them. They offer free
hosting of Mercurial repositories up to 150
Martin Geisler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I'm thinking that there might be some unfortunate overhead in the
preprocessing book-keeping. We should try running benchmark.py under
a profiler to see where the time is spent.
There is now support for a --profile flag, and running benchmark.py
Jakob Illeborg Pagter [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Har installeret PyOpenSSL og kørt millionaires uden problemer.
Rækker det?
Yes, of course -- thanks! This mail should close the bug if everything
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The _shamir_share and shamir_share methods overlap in functionality
and one should probably be implemented in terms of the other.
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repository. But if we forget about this, then don't worry -- there is
a transplant extension to Mercurial that allows us to recover.
I would of course be happy to setup repositories for all of you guys!
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The installation guide says that there are problems with Twisted
8.0.1. But now that Issue 37 is fixed, this warning should be removed.
The newest version of Twisted is 8.1.0 and that should be mentioned in
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There are some links on the webpage (and probably also in the
documentation) which points to
http://viff.dk/doc/latest/
They should be changed to just
http://viff.dk/doc/
now since this is where the current version will be from now
Martin Geisler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Because I wanted to remind you guys that there are many low-hanging
fruits where you can help...
But nobody replied... :-/
I have begun fixing Issue 52:
http://tracker.viff.dk/issue52
This means that we now have the latest HTML and API
New submission from Martin Geisler [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
The release notes in the NEWS file should be updated with information
about the two player runtime found in viff.paillier.
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title: Update NEWS with info on two player runtime
New submission from Martin Geisler [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
The code for the Paillier crypto system needs documentation, as does
the runtime based on it.
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title: Documentation for viff.paillier
VIFF Issue Tracker
New submission from Martin Geisler [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
We now have three mailinglists (see http://lists.viff.dk/) but the
documentation only mentions viff-devel.
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VIFF Issue Tracker
New submission from Martin Geisler [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
The players can now be started in any order and the documentation
needs to be updated to reflect that. At least the installation guide
is outdated.
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title: Doc update needed: players can start
New submission from Martin Geisler [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
As far as I know nobody has tested the SSL functionality of VIFF since
we switched to PyOpenSSL almost two weeks ago (rev facc9f1f0bb1).
Please test it and close this bug if it works.
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New submission from Martin Geisler [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
As far as I know nobody has tested the SSL functionality of VIFF since
we switched to PyOpenSSL almost two weeks ago (rev facc9f1f0bb1).
Please test it and close this bug if it works.
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New submission from Martin Geisler [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Add an option which will make the players stop trying to reconnect
after a certain number of attempts.
This is will be important for Issue 40 so that we can run a set of
players from a script and exit with an error if the network is down
with that.
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Martin Geisler
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