Harry,
right: vapour is a gas. As it is O2. IMHO the probe of Dr Galantini
detects the liquid phase of h2o or other liquid conductor capacitor. It is
not a chemical reactant that binds to any h2o molecule that comes around.
Conductivity of gases is very low compared to liquids.
When you ask
Hello group,
I guess this must mean something, other than its timing has been
probably carefully chosen (as most of you know, tomorrow there's a
Defkalion press conference in Greece). While we are still discussing how
the evidence seen in videos can be consistent with the info provided by
On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 11:52 PM, Harry Veeder hlvee...@yahoo.com wrote:
from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Relative_humidity
--
A common misconception
[...]
--
Reading this makes me think Galantini used the probe correctly.
Harry
That probe uses a capacitance
Dear all,
*this is my guess. I hope it’s correct, but thank you very much in advance
for correction if necessary.*
-The stated probe only measures relative umidity.
If liquid phase is present, then R.U. is always 100%.
what follows only applies for vapour-air mixture
- knowing the temperature
Hi All,I have two Toyota Priuses, one has a 1000W inverter hooked up to the battery, the other has a 1500W inverter. My water heater unit used to make coffee/tea requires 1.27 kW to operate via a standard outlet, roughly twice the input power of the E-Cat/Rossi unit. In Krivit's video
The following was submitted to the Journal of Nuclear Physics Forum (http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=360cpage=22#comments)this morning:PSCI-NETYour comment is awaiting moderation.June 22nd, 2011 at 8:53 AMSeehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-8QdVwY98E– the steam generated by the E-Cat
If your theory it is that he is a scammer, you can bet he has
connections with high governmental entities in Greece. And, indeed, he
is a friend, or at least strongly associated with, of a former
minister and father of the actual prime minister of Greece.
The argument of, Our home electric water kettle has a measured input power of
1270 watts, and the amount of steam generated by the water kettle exceeds the
amount of steam shown in the video linked above is ridiculous. Legitimate
arguments came be made from the expected volume of gas produced
Todd:
You really shold take some time and fully verify your facts before accusing
someone of fraud...
I believe that the e-Cat Krivit saw was only 2.5kW, not 10.
-Mark
_
From: t...@wonksmedia.com [mailto:t...@wonksmedia.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2011 4:55 AM
To:
Yes, that is true. But the steam is way too low for 2.5KW. If someone
can provide me a mathematical example refuting that, I will be happy.
EE:
Yes, you're on the right track... see my posting at 6/21 at 9:04pm.
http://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l@eskimo.com/msg48242.html
I would bet that Galantini is making an indirect measurement of the liquid
water content as
explained in my posting.
-Mark
_
From: aieie brazof
The only way to guage whether the steam flow is adequate is at the outlet of
the chimney, NOT at the
end of a 10 foot hose that has condensation going on inside it. That
condensation will REDUCE the
steam volumn and therefore the flow rate of what steam makes it out to the end
of the hose.
I
Yes, that's why I said 'supposed to be', which implied I didn't know whether it was one 2.5 kW unit, or all four running for a total of 10 kW. In either case, we're still short steam...that's the point. And the quality of the steam should be clear based on how it is exiting the hose - it's wet
Yes, you're on the right track... see my posting at 6/21 at 9:04pm.
http://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l@eskimo.com/msg48242.html
I would bet that Galantini is making an indirect measurement of the liquid
water content as explained in my posting.
-Mark
no, there is no way to make an
The vortex-l discussion group has been around for decades, and most here aren't
really interested in
'pitching' anything other than careful analysis and discussion and debate --
something you should at
least try before shouting 'fraud'. As explained in a posting I made a few
minutes ago,
but I think the jury
is still out as to whether we are witnessing what is claimed, or
human error, or fraud. -Mark
The discussion about the steam from the first demo may be
interesting, but I keep remembering Joshu Cude's remarks about the
video display of the power input that was shown during
Greetings Vortex-L
Presented is an interesting thermoelectric conversion material.
Perhaps useful in a Focardi Rossi LENR Cell:
http://www.physorg.com/news/2011-06-source-green-electricity.html
Respectfully,
Ron Kita, Chiralex
Fair enough - I'll check back in six months to see if anything has changed beyond determining who's the smartest person in the forum.The 3 minute tea kettle youtube video is available viahttp://psci.us/gold.htm(select 720p resolution). Not that the three masters degrees under my belt matter (one
Jeff,
Mass of water in = mass of water out
It doesn't get any simpler.
Everyone is assuming (wrongly) that they are using the instrument to measure
the liquid content
directly, which the instrument clearly cannot do. That is NOT what they are
doing. You obviously
didn't read my posting
Joshua, I hope you read this post by Mark.
Harry
- Original Message
From: Mark Iverson zeropo...@charter.net
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Wed, June 22, 2011 1:42:07 PM
Subject: RE: [Vo]:relative humidity
Jeff,
Mass of water in = mass of water out
It doesn't get any
no, the instrument gives the mass of water in air at some temperature,
so it is grams of water per kg of air,
how do you get steam quality from that? steam quality is grams of
vaporized water per gram of liquid and vapor.
for example, they need steam quality for measuring how much liquid
Mark Iverson zeropo...@charter.net wrote:
The only way to guage whether the steam flow is adequate is at the outlet
of the chimney, NOT at the
end of a 10 foot hose that has condensation going on inside it. . . .
That is correct.
I believe that the demo for Essen and Kullander did make
On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 1:58 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
Mark Iverson zeropo...@charter.net wrote:
The only way to guage whether the steam flow is adequate is at the outlet
of the chimney, NOT at the
end of a 10 foot hose that has condensation going on inside it. . . .
I wrote:
This looks like ~2 kW, used to clean an automobile interior:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_pcOgkRbfQfeature=related
Yup. It appears to be a Vapor Chief 16 amp 120 VAC unit. 1.8 kW. See:
http://www.therma-kleen.com/vapor_steam_cleaners/vapor_steam_cleaners.html
You don't want
Jeff Driscoll hcarb...@gmail.com wrote:
yes, the meters measure the humidity of air, not steam quality.
Galantini used the wrong instrument
So you say, but Galantini and the manufacturers say differently. It is clear
that Galantini is an expert in this subject and you not. I suggest you stop
Todd,
Did you see Robert Leguillon’s response to your comparison?
http://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l@eskimo.com/msg48252.html
He makes a good point about the energy required to heat a fixed quantity of
water in a kettle as opposed to a constant “stream” of cold water from a
Jeff,
You still did NOT read my posting and the simple algebra that is needed...
I can't spoon-feed you knowledge Jeff; I have pointed you at the explanation
and you refuse to read
it. You obviously aren't interested in learning...
You stated AGAIN:
yes, the meters measure the humidity of air,
On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 2:25 PM, Mark Iverson zeropo...@charter.net wrote:
Jeff,
You still did NOT read my posting and the simple algebra that is needed...
I can't spoon-feed you knowledge Jeff; I have pointed you at the explanation
and you refuse to read
it. You obviously aren't interested
On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 12:42 PM, Mark Iverson zeropo...@charter.netwrote:
The instrument DOES provide a (calculated) value for the mass of water
which is in the form of
vapor...
No. It certainly doesn't do that. And that means your simple algebra is all
wet.
The device gives the mass of
That vapor is a water gas. It is being produced at about 2g per
second. 18 grams of water have about 30 liters (1 mol at 373K) at
100C. So, 2 grams of water fills 3 liters or 3,000 cm^2 passing
through an opening with an area of 2 cm^2. So, you need to pass a
cilinder of 1500 cm in 1 second to
Jeff Driscoll wrote:
no it doesn't give the mass of water as vapor because it only works
for measuring the mass of water of vapor in AIR.
NOT in a mixture of vapor and microscopic water DROPLETS
All air has microscopic water droplets in it. Sometimes they are
macroscopic, for example, when it
Hi Terry,
Life is so much more interesting when one ponders the implications behind the
obvious facts!
I have no doubt that your granddaughter's life is much more enjoyable because
of her grandpa T...
-Mark
-Original Message-
From: Terry Blanton [mailto:hohlr...@gmail.com]
Sent:
At 11:20 PM 6/21/2011, Mark Iverson wrote:
ABD wrote:
Rossi held up the hose, Krivit had also mentioned this. He didn't
want to allow this to continue,
he said it was dangerous. Really? How?
I think its quite obvious and simple...
yes. That was a rhetorical question. It showed that there is
On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 3:13 PM, Mark Iverson zeropo...@charter.net wrote:
Hi Terry,
Life is so much more interesting when one ponders the implications behind the
obvious facts!
I have no doubt that your granddaughter's life is much more enjoyable because
of her grandpa T...
Thanks!
I
On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 12:58 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.comwrote:
Mark Iverson zeropo...@charter.net wrote:
Many people have asserted that the two meters used in these studies do not
measure by mass, or that they cannot combine this measurement with the
temperature to measure
On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 1:12 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
Jeff Driscoll hcarb...@gmail.com wrote:
yes, the meters measure the humidity of air, not steam quality.
Galantini used the wrong instrument
So you say, but Galantini and the manufacturers say differently.
The
At 12:02 AM 6/22/2011, Jeff Driscoll wrote:
http://www.testosites.de/export/sites/default/datalogger2011/en_INT/local_downloads/brochure_EN.pdf
yes, this device, and its probes, measure the relative humidity of
*air* . It does not measure steam quality. What is Galantini
doing?
I
On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 1:58 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
Jeff Driscoll wrote:
no it doesn't give the mass of water as vapor because it only works
for measuring the mass of water of vapor in AIR.
NOT in a mixture of vapor and microscopic water DROPLETS
All air has
Joshua Cude wrote:
Putting aside who is the pre-eminent expert (you, or the guy who
designed the meter), you cannot argue with the second test.
Then why did they bother with the 3rd, 4rth, 5th, and 6th demo?
I suppose because different people wanted to see it. It is nice of Rossi
At 12:52 AM 6/22/2011, Harry Veeder wrote:
from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Relative_humidity -- A
common misconception Often the notion of air holding water vapor is
presented to describe the concept of relative humidity.
Stop right there. You are citing Wikipedia as evidence?
On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 1:25 PM, Mark Iverson zeropo...@charter.net wrote:
THE INSTRUMENT DOES PROVIDE MASS OF WATER AS VAPOR, AND SUBTRACTING THAT
FROM THE MASS OF WATER
GOING IN WILL GIVE YOU THE MASS OF LIQUID WATER THAT IS COMING
OUT!!
No. It determines the mass of water vapor
At 04:16 AM 6/22/2011, Michele Comitini wrote:
Harry,
right: vapour is a gas. As it is O2. IMHO
the probe of Dr Galantini detects the liquid
phase of h2o or other liquid conductor
capacitor. It is not a chemical reactant that
binds to any h2o molecule that comes
around.Â
Joshua Cude wrote:
Even if it gave the mass of water vapor per unit volume of steam,
you'd need to know the volume to get the mass. For that you'd need a
flowmeter. But if you had a flowmeter to measure the flow rate of the
steam, you wouldn't need the RH meter.
They do not need a flow
Joshua Cude wrote:
Even if it gave the mass of water vapor per unit volume of steam,
you'd need to know the volume to get the mass. For that you'd need a
flowmeter. But if you had a flowmeter to measure the flow rate of the
steam, you wouldn't need the RH meter.
They do not need a flow
Jed,
Here's one for you! (if you've not already seen it.)
http://www.gizmag.com/d-dalus-uav-design/18972/
I've not found any video footage of it yet. I bet it's something to behold.
Joe
--
Dr Joe Karthauser
On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 2:39 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
Joshua Cude wrote:
Even if it gave the mass of water vapor per unit volume of steam, you'd
need to know the volume to get the mass. For that you'd need a flowmeter.
But if you had a flowmeter to measure the flow rate
Breaking the mold, I'm agreeing with Cude here, in part.
At 05:29 AM 6/22/2011, Joshua Cude wrote:
In any case, if the device is to be used to determine liquid content
in steam, it would at least have to be calibrated for that purpose.
There is no indication such a calibration was performed.
At 09:56 AM 6/22/2011, t...@wonksmedia.com wrote:
The following was submitted to the Journal of
Nuclear Physics Forum
(http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=360cpage=22#commentshttp://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=360cpage=22#comments)
this morning:
At 12:12 PM 6/22/2011, Daniel Rocha wrote:
Yes, that is true. But the steam is way too low for 2.5KW. If someone
can provide me a mathematical example refuting that, I will be happy.
*What steam?*
Understand that 2.5 KW of steam being generated at the E-Cat is not
going to be 2.5 KW of steam
Joshua Cude wrote:
If they did not measure the weight of the water, you would be
right. The RH meter reading alone is not sufficient.
The RH meter reading is not enough even with the input flow rate. You
need the output flow rate.
Nope. All you have to know is how dry the steam is,
At 02:00 PM 6/22/2011, Jeff Driscoll wrote:
no, the instrument gives the mass of water in air at some temperature,
so it is grams of water per kg of air,
No. The meter reads in grams per cubic meter. But the question stands
how do you get steam quality from that? steam quality is grams of
2011/6/22 Abd ul-Rahman Lomax a...@lomaxdesign.com:
The problem with this is that water would condense on the probe. You would
always see 100% liquid water, if this is how it's being detected, unless you
preheated the probe. Tricky. There are descriptions on-line of how to
measure steam
At 01:58 PM 6/22/2011, Jed Rothwell wrote:
They measured the steam quality at the chimney with the meter. I do
not think they actually saw the steam emerge directly from the chimney.
Bummer. You sure?
Many people have asserted that the two meters used in these studies
do not measure by mass,
At 02:12 PM 6/22/2011, Jed Rothwell wrote:
Jeff Driscoll mailto:hcarb...@gmail.comhcarb...@gmail.com wrote:
yes, the meters measure the humidity of air, not steam quality.
Galantini used the wrong instrument
So you say, but Galantini and the manufacturers say differently.
No, the
- Original Message
From: Abd ul-Rahman Lomax a...@lomaxdesign.com
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Wed, June 22, 2011 3:35:32 PM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:relative humidity
At 12:52 AM 6/22/2011, Harry Veeder wrote:
from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Relative_humidity -- A
It seems to me that this new Multiferroic material could best be utilized in
a cold fusion reactor using a rotating turbine wheel made from the stuff and
connected to an electric generator.
Since the magnetic transition temperature is 135C, one side or quadrant of a
veined turbine wheel could
At 02:25 PM 6/22/2011, Mark Iverson wrote:
AS I ALREADY STATED, I AGREE THAT THE INSTRUMENT DOES NOT MEASURE
STEAM QUALITY!
YOURE TOTALLY MISSING THE POINT! IT DOES GIVE YOU THE INFORMATION
NEEDED TO CALCULATE IT THOUGH!
THE INSTRUMENT DOES PROVIDE MASS OF WATER AS VAPOR, AND SUBTRACTING
At 02:58 PM 6/22/2011, Jed Rothwell wrote:
Jeff Driscoll wrote:
no it doesn't give the mass of water as vapor because it only works
for measuring the mass of water of vapor in AIR.
NOT in a mixture of vapor and microscopic water DROPLETS
All air has microscopic water droplets in it. Sometimes
Michele wrote:
Condense on the probe? What is the temperature of the probe? 100° C or
less?
Galantini would not make such a mistake...
Exactly... As soon as the probe was placed in the steam flow, some condensation
would occur on it,
but within seconds the probe would heat up and the
Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote:
I have no idea what Galantini is expert in. Do you know?
Yes. The second test proved beyond any doubt that he is an expert in
identifying dry steam, and it proved that all of the objections raised
here are bunk, including yours.
In science, you are supposed to
Abd wrote:
I have no idea what Galantini is expert in. Do you know?
Yes, chemistry.
-Mark
On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 3:04 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
**
Joshua Cude wrote:
If they did not measure the weight of the water, you would be right. The
RH meter reading alone is not sufficient.
The RH meter reading is not enough even with the input flow rate. You
need
Joshua Cude wrote:
Nope. All you have to know is how dry the steam is, what the
temperature is, and what the total mass of the steam is. You can
derive the steam flow rate from that.
Right. But how do you get the total mass of the steam? Even in your
interpretation of what
Hmm, I just notice a mistake here (in GoatGuy's post he did 1.03g/s *
12.7 m/s = 13.1N) : 1.03g/s * 12.7 m/s = 0.00103kg/s*12.7m/s= 0.0131N.
You forgot to convert to SI, which is based on kg, not on grams.
That's the typical force and speed of the the wind of when you blow a
candle on a cake.
Can you let GoatGuy know his mistake? It'd be really good to see how he
responds.
On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 12:27 AM, Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.comwrote:
Hmm, I just notice a mistake here (in GoatGuy's post he did 1.03g/s *
12.7 m/s = 13.1N) : 1.03g/s * 12.7 m/s = 0.00103kg/s*12.7m/s=
Sure:
http://nextbigfuture.com/2011/06/steven-b-krivit-of-new-energy-times-has.html#comment-232178721
But as I said, it is useless to use the vapor of an e-cat to blow a
turbine. Unless if one used that to heat another gas and use that in
cycles. Anyway, that would be a large scale project.
Daniel Rocha wrote:
Hmm, I just notice a mistake here (in GoatGuy's post he did 1.03g/s *
12.7 m/s = 13.1N) : 1.03g/s * 12.7 m/s = 0.00103kg/s*12.7m/s= 0.0131N.
You forgot to convert to SI, which is based on kg, not on grams.
What did I tell you?! Always include the units. That's what I
About using it as a power source: Living and learning. ;)
I never did any calculation on exhaust speed of a boiler before 2 days ago.
It would take a long time for water to evaporate out of any crevices,
so the liquid would stay around a long time, any probe measuring
steam quality has to do it from below 100 C and above 100 C.
but this is all moot.
Galantini used the wrong instrument.
I can't find the amount of grams per kg
There certainly is plenty of confusion to go
around here. Were measurements by volume or by
mass? -- the whole Krivit/Levi/Rossi flap.
The meter in question measures a number of
variables, I believe the relevant ones here are
temperature, pressure, and relative humidity. It
does not seem to
On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 4:22 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
**
Joshua Cude wrote:
Nope. All you have to know is how dry the steam is, what the temperature
is, and what the total mass of the steam is. You can derive the steam flow
rate from that.
Right. But how do you
Joshua Cude wrote:
If the meter is giving mass per unit volume of the output, you need to
know the *volume* of the output to get the mass of the steam.
Ah. Here is what you overlooked. It also says that it gives mass of
water per unit of mass. That is degree of humidity (g/kg), partial
RE: Abd's comment about, the instrument does not provide mass of water as
vapor, unfortunately,
that's not what it shows. It reads in g/m^3. To convert this to mass we'd need
to know the volume,
eh?
NO, you do NOT need to know the volume to calculate the mixing ratio if you
have measurements
More frustration than confidence! Jeff kept on insisting that there is no
documentation that the
instrument (actually sensor) can measure the liquid content of steam, to which
I AGREED, but I
requested twice that he read my proposal of a very easily understood method
that one could calculate
On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 2:52 PM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
a...@lomaxdesign.comwrote:
It would be possible, just from the experiments performed, to determine if
the RH probe were of any use. If the RH readings were *monitored* on a
continuos basis, like the temperature, and *reported*, we could
Joshua:
STOP THINKING ABOUT VOLUME! Yes, you're right in that the extreme volume
change complicates the
measurements, and thats why I and others including Krivit, are focused on MASS.
Think in terms of
mass. That eliminates the complication of the 1700:1 change in volume that you
are stuck
On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 5:45 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
Joshua Cude wrote:
If the meter is giving mass per unit volume of the output, you need to
know the *volume* of the output to get the mass of the steam.
Ah. Here is what you overlooked. It also says that it gives
On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 6:04 PM, Mark Iverson zeropo...@charter.net wrote:
**
Joshua:
STOP THINKING ABOUT VOLUME! Yes, you're right in that the extreme volume
change complicates the measurements, and thats why I and others including
Krivit, are focused on MASS. Think in terms of mass.
On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 6:50 PM, Mark Iverson zeropo...@charter.net wrote:
More frustration than confidence! Jeff kept on insisting that there is no
documentation that the
instrument (actually sensor) can measure the liquid content of steam, to
which I AGREED, but I
requested twice that
Oh well, I'll run the errand tomorrow...
As a start, go read about the gas laws and partial pressure and how humidity is
calculated from
partial pressure...
In order to understand how Galantini can ESTIMATE the liquid water content of
the steam, you need to
think several steps ahead as in
Joshua Cude joshua.c...@gmail.com wrote:
So, what specifically do you think that g/kg means in the context of a
2-phase mixture of steam and water?
What do you use for the denominator to calculate the total mass of the
steam?
If it means the mass of water vapor per unit mass of water
A bit of street cred .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAJnZZi41YA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAJnZZi41YAfeature=player_embedded
feature=player_embedded
I've also got another bone to pick with Jeff...
Let's please not claim that there is NO air (i.e., O2 and N2) in the steam...
--- ever hear of a dissolved oxygen meter?
--- ever been in the hospital when they put an oximeter probe on your
finger?
--- ever hear of the term, 'blood
At 03:21 PM 6/22/2011, Terry Blanton wrote:
I don't know if her life is more enjoyable, but her path to the
theatre is longer. Quoting: Eeew, that's nasty!
Normal girl.
I found a large spider dead on my bathroom floor, and showed it to my
two young daughters. Both of them recoiled. It
Quick-freezing would probably be the 'cleanest' way to get it off the
concrete... Works for gum on
clothes!
-Mark
-Original Message-
From: Abd ul-Rahman Lomax [mailto:a...@lomaxdesign.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2011 5:41 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com; vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re:
At 03:21 PM 6/22/2011, Joshua Cude wrote:
On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 12:58 PM, Jed Rothwell
mailto:jedrothw...@gmail.comjedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
Mark Iverson mailto:zeropo...@charter.netzeropo...@charter.net wrote:
Many people have asserted that the two meters used in these studies
do not
At 03:24 PM 6/22/2011, Joshua Cude wrote:
On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 1:12 PM, Jed Rothwell
mailto:jedrothw...@gmail.comjedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
Jeff Driscoll mailto:hcarb...@gmail.comhcarb...@gmail.com wrote:
yes, the meters measure the humidity of air, not steam quality.
Galantini used the
On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 8:08 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
A bit of street cred …
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAJnZZi41YAfeature=player_embedded
Judy didn't have a brush in her purse? BJ looks like Dr. Brackish
Okun. I guess that lends credibility with some.
For those who
At 03:32 PM 6/22/2011, Jed Rothwell wrote:
Joshua Cude wrote:
Putting aside who is the pre-eminent expert (you, or the guy who
designed the meter), you cannot argue with the second test.
Then why did they bother with the 3rd, 4rth, 5th, and 6th demo?
I suppose because different people
On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 8:41 PM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
a...@lomaxdesign.com wrote:
I found a large spider dead on my bathroom floor,
I found a palmetto bug on our office floor and pointed it out to our
HR director. Her response, When will all you engineers understand
that NO PETS ARE ALLOWED IN
At 04:19 PM 6/22/2011, Michele Comitini wrote:
2011/6/22 Abd ul-Rahman Lomax a...@lomaxdesign.com:
The problem with this is that water would condense on the probe. You would
always see 100% liquid water, if this is how
it's being detected, unless you
preheated the probe. Tricky. There are
At 04:34 PM 6/22/2011, Mark Iverson wrote:
Michele wrote:
Condense on the probe? What is the temperature
of the probe? 100° C or less?
Galantini would not make such a mistake...
Exactly... As soon as the probe was placed in
the steam flow, some condensation would occur on it,
but within
At 04:24 PM 6/22/2011, Harry Veeder wrote:
- Original Message
Stop right there. You are citing Wikipedia as evidence?
Are you saying that it is wrong and that your conception of RH is right?
No. That would be stupid unless I spent a lot of time with that
article, read and
At 04:38 PM 6/22/2011, Jed Rothwell wrote:
Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote:
I have no idea what Galantini is expert in. Do you know?
Yes. The second test proved beyond any doubt that he is an expert in
identifying dry steam, and it proved that all of the objections
raised here are bunk,
Terry,
What 'endorsements' has Brian Josephson missed-out on, specifically?
He is an LENR advocate for sure, but the factuality of LENR is still
pending, so one cannot call him out on that. He may have picked other tech
losers (on the fringes) - which I do not know of - since he is open-minded,
It is a shame the sound quality isn't better.
Harry
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From: Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Wed, June 22, 2011 9:52:43 PM
Subject: RE: [Vo]:Brian Josephson on Rossi
Terry,
What 'endorsements' has Brian Josephson missed-out on,
At 04:41 PM 6/22/2011, Mark Iverson wrote:
Abd wrote:
I have no idea what Galantini is expert in. Do you know?
Yes, chemistry.
-Mark
It is *claimed* that he is expert in chemistry.
However, he may be expert in other things. If his
only expertise is in chemistry, per se, he would
not be
At 05:22 PM 6/22/2011, Jed Rothwell wrote:
Joshua Cude wrote:
Nope. All you have to know is how dry the steam is, what the
temperature is, and what the total mass of the steam is. You can
derive the steam flow rate from that.
Right. But how do you get the total mass of the steam? Even in
Let me reiterate what I mentioned before. In the Kullander test, they used the
Testo 650. Their site report says that they used a probe rated up to 550
degrees. If you looks at the accessories for the testo 650, the only probe
rated for 550 is a temperature probe. All of the humidity probes
At 06:34 PM 6/22/2011, Joshua Cude wrote:
I accept that the input flow rate is constant. But the output
*volume* flow rate is very different because at least part of the
water changes phase.
If the meter is giving mass per unit volume of the output, you need
to know the *volume* of the
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