The witty remarks on 'bad science' are worth reading in this welcome
message to ICCF 17.
http://www.iccf17.org/sub01.php
(The message is an image file so I could not copy and past it)
Harry
On 24 Oct 2011, at 07:58, Harry Veeder wrote:
The witty remarks on 'bad science' are worth reading in this welcome
message to ICCF 17.
http://www.iccf17.org/sub01.php
(The message is an image file so I could not copy and past it)
Why on earth did they do that? I guess that they don't
It must however been said, to complement this document:
It was bad science when alchemists where trying to make gold, and claim they
can do this, claim they have done this, claim they will soon be able to do
this, taking money for this research, selling it, fighting other reasonable
theories
It was bad science when alchemists where trying to make gold, and claim they
can do this, claim they have done this, claim they will soon be able to do
this, taking money for this research, selling it, fighting other reasonable
theories like those of Lavoisier and others when they had
- Original Nachricht
Von: Craig Haynie cchayniepub...@gmail.com
An: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Datum: 24.10.2011 12:21
Betreff: Re: [Vo]:'bad science'
It was bad science when alchemists where trying to make gold, and claim
they can do this, claim they have done this, claim
Jones,
What is Romanowski ratio?
Regards
Fran
Jones wrote [Snip] I am hoping Brian will now send his most active powder,
which has the copper addition (in the Romanowski ratio) instead of palladium,
and let them use hydrogen for comparison. BTW - Copper is NOT a transmutation
From Rossi's blog using Google translate:
*Dear Mr. Rossi,
(Has the) E-Cat 'already' been certified by obtaining the CE mark for
marketing in Europe?
Darius
Andrea Rossi
October 23rd, 2011 at 8:08 AM
Dear Dario:
The CE for the business to business has been done. For household
applications not
Well, is so, it is well hidden. I went here:
http://www.cedirectory.com/content/ce-products.php
and opened a free buyer's account and have been searching products and
company names all morning. I can find no indication that his product
has a CE certification.
Yes, I searched his wife's
Hi Bob,
This issue that we are working on is one of importance and I hope that we can
come to an understanding as to how it operates. I have extended my previous
theory based upon newly mined factors within the test data. You viewpoint is
valuable to me as I ensure that most of the strange
How can you obtain a CE certification for a product
just assembled, not tested thoroughly, based on an unknown
reaction, not characterized- singular?
Bureaucracy has its raison d'etre.
Peter
On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 5:32 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote:
Well, is so, it is well hidden.
From Terry:
Well, is so, it is well hidden. I went here:
http://www.cedirectory.com/content/ce-products.php
and opened a free buyer's account and have been searching products and
company names all morning. I can find no indication that his product
has a CE certification.
Yes, I
A *nuclear reactor* cannot have a “CE Mark”.
It’s like searching the “CE Mark” of a Nuclear Bomb.
It’s not a gross market product.
From: Peter Gluck
Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 4:52 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Rossi says he has a European CE mark
How can you obtain a CE
The “CE mark” is essentially a self-certification.
The problem is that there isn’t a regulation inside the “CE mark” rules for
nuclear reactors.
Because this is a job for the national nuclear agency.
It’s like searching the “CE Mark” for nuclear bombs.
From: Peter Gluck
Sent: Monday, October
From Peter:
How can you obtain a CE certification for a product
just assembled, not tested thoroughly, based on an unknown
reaction, not characterized- singular?
Bureaucracy has its raison d'etre.
Methinks Rossi has some X'plaing to do.
Regards
Steven Vincent Johnson
www.OrionWorks.com
Andrea Rossi
October 24th, 2011 at 5:08 AM
Dear A. Goumy:
1- yes
2- We will work together. They have been trained
3- yes
Warm Regards,
A.R.
A. Goumy
October 24th, 2011 at 1:05 AM
---
Dear Mr Rossi,
It is now the run-up to the moment of truth. I wish
Probably The CE for the business to business has been done
has to be translated as we think about how we could obtain this document
An other fairy tale for adults (except the identity of the very shy
Customer) is this:
We give an extended warranty for 2 (twenty thousand) hours of operation.
Well, I want it to be true!
On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 9:00 AM, OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
svj.orionwo...@gmail.com wrote:
Andrea Rossi
October 24th, 2011 at 5:08 AM
Dear A. Goumy:
1- yes
2- We will work together. They have been trained
3- yes
Warm Regards,
A.R.
A. Goumy
October 24th,
On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 12:11 PM, Peter Gluck peter.gl...@gmail.com wrote:
Probably The CE for the business to business has been done
has to be translated as we think about how we could obtain this document
An other fairy tale for adults (except the identity of the very shy
Customer) is this:
Has anybody seen big amounts of steam at Bologna?
Or anamalous heat around Rossis facility?
Am 24.10.2011 18:15, schrieb Rich Murray:
Well, I want it to be true!
On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 9:00 AM, OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
svj.orionwo...@gmail.com wrote:
Andrea Rossi
October 24th, 2011 at
From Rich:
Well, I want it to be true!
I hear you Rich. I hope it's true too.
However, with Rossi, who knows.
It may be a matter of interpretation. ;-)
Regards
Steven Vincent Johnson
www.OrionWorks.com
www.zazzle.com/orionworks
This is hilarious. Rossi is more fun than the next 20 cold fusion
researchers tied together.
- Jed
At 09:21 AM 10/24/2011, Terry Blanton wrote:
By the way, I do not think there is a category for CE approval for the
Rossi product. The closest thing I can find is a boiler using liquid
or gas fuel. I suppose you could say the hydrogen gas is the fuel.
Hey ... he's got it covered (per wiki) :
In the continuing saga of learning what's really happening at the atomistic
scale and time-frame, here's a recent article about research which is helping
to eliminate what we PERCEIVE as the electron's motion, and replacing it with
what is REALLY happening:
Let us think of Rossi in terms of how he would fit into the great works of
literature and drama. Think of the role that would best fit his
larger-than-life persona. Merlin? Prospero? John Galt?
No, Rossi is playing the Road Runner, and the rest of us, collectively, are
playing Wile E. Coyote.
Jed sez:
Let us think of Rossi in terms of how he would fit into the great works of
literature and drama. Think of the role that would best fit his
larger-than-life persona. Merlin? Prospero? John Galt?
No, Rossi is playing the Road Runner, and the rest of us, collectively, are
playing Wile
I think the main point of my posting didn't make it out of my head on onto the
paper!
Let me explain further...
The article stated:
The research team irradiated nitrogen dioxide molecules (NO2) with a very
short ultraviolet pulse. Subsequently, the molecule takes up the energy from
the pulse
OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson svj.orionwo...@gmail.com wrote:
And what's the name of the secret company working for Rossi Runner?
ACME?
Oh, wait a minute. Isn't that the name of the company Wile E. always
special orders from?
Exactly!
It is high time we file suit to correct this
On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 12:15 PM, Rich Murray rmfor...@gmail.com wrote:
Well, I want it to be true!
attachment: ~I Want To~.jpg
In fine print, under the directions section, pertaining to one of Wile
E's special ACME orders for paint:
Do not attempt to create the illusion of a tunnel.
Regards
Steven Vincent Johnson
www.OrionWorks.com
www.zazzle.com/orionworks
I can see it now.
Sergey, close the window, you are melting the ice.
T
There's only one thing to say about all this.
mBeep, beep.
-m
From: Jed Rothwell [mailto:jedrothw...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 11:03 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Rossi says he has a European CE mark
OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
On 11-10-24 01:22 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote:
Let us think of Rossi in terms of how he would fit into the great
works of literature and drama. Think of the role that would best fit
his larger-than-life persona. Merlin? Prospero? John Galt?
Bernard Madoff comes first to mind.
But then, one
Stephen A. Lawrence sa...@pobox.com wrote:
On 11-10-24 01:22 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote:
Let us think of Rossi in terms of how he would fit into the great works of
literature and drama. Think of the role that would best fit his
larger-than-life persona. Merlin? Prospero? John Galt?
Bernard
On 11-10-24 03:17 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote:
Stephen A. Lawrence sa...@pobox.com mailto:sa...@pobox.com wrote:
On 11-10-24 01:22 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote:
Let us think of Rossi in terms of how he would fit into the
great works of literature and drama. Think of the role that
No... just one hellacious fog bank hangin over the city... which hasn't
happened since the university was built! Just a coincidence...
:-)
-Mark
-Original Message-
From: Peter Heckert [mailto:peter.heck...@arcor.de]
Has anybody seen big amounts of steam at Bologna?
Or anamalous heat
Which is a thread in Greek. Interesting. A recent post translated by Google:
It should be known that nickel is the fifth most common element on
earth (immediately after iron, oxygen, silicon and magnesium) and
occupies 0.008% of Earth's crust. The division into exoryximi form on
the earth's
2011/10/24 Rich Murray rmfor...@gmail.com
Well, I want it to be true!
How it is possible that you want such because it would imply that you
were previously wrong, if eCat is true? This means that your
credibility goes down the drain, because you were utterly wrong with
your ego-filled
Hi Peter,
The primary flow is interesting problem. Rossi states 4g/sec which is close
to 15 kg/h. The specs of the pump give a maximum of 12kg/h at 1.5 bar so if
we believe Rossi then the pump must have been running at maximum volume but
then how can we explain the flow rate of the peristaltic
And I still think that the identity of the Great Customer is sig.
Rossi himself. Or perhaps his wife.
–Jouni
2011/10/24 Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com:
This is hilarious. Rossi is more fun than the next 20 cold fusion
researchers tied together.
- Jed
In reply to Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint's message of Mon, 24 Oct 2011 10:54:51
-0700:
Hi,
[snip]
In this example, the laser pulse of energy into the material gets coupled in
thru the electrons (the first thing encountered since they effectively are a
shield around the nucleus), but then that energy
It'd probably be very beneficial for humanity -- although no secrets
should be kept about fundamental breakthroughs in nuclear physics, due
to the historical law of physics: little bangs mean soon really huge
bangs...
As a pragmatic skeptic, within the largely CF believing community of
Vortex-L,
I beg to differ most strenuously with Mr. Murray's statement:
...largely CF believing community of Vortex-L...
Rich, you've been a contributor to this group for quite some time as well.
If you haven't noticed by now you aren't as observant as you think. The
main thing that attracted me to the
Yes, indeed, as a rank amateur, I devote myself to examining all the
details within reports that claim to be close to independent
replication -- notable for 22 years is that not a single lab can
replicate their own research to reliably demonstrate an anomaly --
Edison's light bulbs didn't last
It's also my thought since a while.
The high level of secrecy and mystery, strongly suggests that this move is
another pathetic attempt to raise the fading interest over the web.
Since the very very secret customer is secret the large positive reports
will be released obviously by himself. So we
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