Dear Friends,
It is Sunday and it is my pleasure to send you the
issue No. 22 of my faster info newsletter:
http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com/2012/05/qui-cito-22.html
Many very good papers signaled, the last one in the
list , about *temporal orientation *is, I think, especially
relevant for
On Tue, 22 May 2012, David Jonsson wrote:
Thanks. I will try to build one.
Will this transistor do?
http://www.newark.com/nte-electronics/nte451/transistor-jfet-n-channel-4ma-i/dp/29C4598
Probably, but you'd have to try it. Or just use MPF-102:
The parallel between Hot fusion and Darwinian Evolution is not in the theory
per se, but in how people treat each theory.
It has become a religion to their respective adherents, There is no other
truth to them. Nothing you say will change their minds. Parks will never
consider any evidence
Jojo,
Where is the controlled experiment that distinguishes between the two?
There are LOTS of controlled experiments demonstrating cold fusion.
Distinguish what from what?
Are you asking if there are experiments in Darwinian Evolution and experiments
in Intelligent Design?
- Original Message -
From: James Bowery
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2012 7:08 PM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Darwinian Evolution (Was
Please excuse if this link has already been provided. Sounds pretty
convincing to me.
http://chiefio.wordpress.com/2012/05/26/spawar-space-and-naval-warfare-lenr-proof/
James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com wrote:
On the other hand . . . Fleischmann worked in government-funded
institutions all of his life
And not until he retired was he allowed to pursue the breakthrough.
That is incorrect. He was working on cold fusion when he was still at the
university --
No. I'm talking about the scientific technique of strong inference.
In strong inference you are not simply testing a hypothesis. You are
admitting multiple hypotheses in the formulation of your experiments and
attempting to most economically compare them. It is legitimate, of course,
to have
I am unsure about your point or what you are asking.
What exactly is your discussion point or what exactly is your question?
Of course,there are strong inference. For example, if you find the presence of
Information in DNA, that is an inference for Intelligent Designer, not
Darwinian
OK, so you don't think you need an experiment.
Go fuck yourself.
On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 9:11 AM, Jojo Jaro jth...@hotmail.com wrote:
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I am unsure about your point or what you are asking.
What exactly is your discussion point or what exactly is your question?
Of course,there are strong
Not LENR.
If what was reported by LeClair actually happened, which is
substantially in doubt, no independent account has come to light, and
LeClair's reports are full of unsupported and wild theoretical
interpretations shallow on actual experimental evidence, this would
not be LENR at all,
OH my! What is your major malfunction? Are you experiencing major cognitive
dissonance? The Darwinian Evolution Religion you've pledge yourself to is not
as factual as you thought it was? Did I just hit a central nerve? I thought
we were discussing with civility? I guess I just pissed
Dear Jojo,
I would friendly suggest you to you to stop this discussion from the simple
reason that
the analogy is not valid.
Hot Fusion and Cold Fusion (LENR) are both real and possible, alternative,
in a way complementary solutions.
Evolution and Intelligent Project are opposites,mutually
No, Jojo has no business in this forum for the simple reason that he thinks
experiments are unnecessary to science. Nature magazine, too, decided that
experiments were unnecessary when the British editor deferred to the US
editor regarding Oriani's replication of cold fusion, and the US editor
It is very difficult to expend the energy required to modify ones deeply held
convictions. Many years and difficult study have allowed the scientist to
develop their understanding of how the world operates and they honestly believe
that they are correct in their thinking. This set of
At 04:04 PM 5/25/2012, Alan J Fletcher wrote:
At 01:49 PM 5/25/2012, Alan J Fletcher wrote:
Hundreds of wave trains and vortices appeared everywhere and are
permanently burned into walls, objects and trees surrounding the lab.
Came from Le Clair himself, in response to Krivit
Jojo,
I thought scrabble was a word game not a sentence game as there are no
spaces.
You say the chances are aqual for the tiles results. I would think the
chances of the tiles coming up with a non grammatically correct jumble of
letters would be much higher than meeting all the constraints of
As I indicated before, I hesitated in posting about the fallacies of Darwinian
Evolution in this forum as I find this forum extremely useful and don't want to
clutter it with other subjects. There is no need to ask me to stop as I have
stopped and said I will only respond to any question
Why on Earth would you think that I think experiments are unneccesary? I am
spending a small fortune right now conducting experiments. And that my friend
is more than what you are currently doing or prepared to do.
You know, one thing is clear. Your hostility towards me is not stemming from
At 04:17 PM 5/25/2012, Jed Rothwell wrote:
Le Clair is quoted:
The experiment gave off powerful crested cnoid de Broglie Matter
wave soliton wave packages that were doubly periodic and followed
the Jacobi Elliptic functions exactly, mostly in the form of large
doubly-periodic vortices.
At 04:28 PM 5/25/2012, David Roberson wrote:
The scenario that they mention is beyond frightening and anyone who
remained in the vicinity of that experiment should be given a metal
for bravery.
I can imagine the description of damage being used as part of the
plot to a wild science fiction
Memetics explains well what you say/feel.
We live in memecracies- the word is in the English dictionary.
On my blog I wrote about the possibility to increase a lot the immunity
about memes, first of all killer memes as those of hatred, violence,
unlimited greed etc. The people with brains
In my opinion the nasty comments directed toward Jojo are not acceptable. His
beliefs may be in opposition to most of the members of the group but he is
entitled to have them none the less. Surely we can discuss issues such as this
without resorting to bad form.
Jojo, it would be better for
I think you missed the point.
The first sentence is equally a jumble of letters as the second. But what
makes the first different. It is because it contains Information assigned to
its specific arrangement. And where did this information get its meaning.
Isn't it from the same Intelligent
Guys,
Just to muddy things some more:
The SPAWAR presentation I posted a link to this morning mentioned that
energy output measurements implied that both hot and cold/LENR type
reactions might be taking place concurrently so the reactions may not be
mutually exclusive...
Also, based upon my
or or means simply that Darwinism and ID cannot be both true in the same
time and even any intermediate or combined solution is not possible. Just
from curiosity are you a Bible literalist as my friend G. including
Creation and Noah's Ark. You can write directly to me I respect your
faith.
Peter
Jojo, just so you don't feel too bad, I would consider it to be morally
justifiable to draw and quarter the editors of Nature magazine that
suppressed replication of cold fusion. Your dedication to theory over
experiment is merely worthy of contempt.
On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 11:34 AM, Jojo Jaro
I find your assesment of me rather amusing.
So I am more theory than experiment? OK, whatever.
This will be my last response to you. You're welcome to have the last word.
Jojo
- Original Message -
From: James Bowery
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Monday, May 28,
Yes, I am a Bible Literalist. Not because I forced myself to be that; but
because the evidence I have studied points in that direction.
Science is about the search for the Truth. It is not about the religion of
Naturalistic Methodologism. Science must consider all possible causes, not
just
At 04:42 PM 5/25/2012, Chemical Engineer wrote:
Reads like the catalyst may have been
Lysergic acid diethylamide
It does read that way. LeClair does not report the primary
observational data, but, rather, his high-level abstract impressions,
his *interpretations* of the data, and that is
Actually, Intelligent Design and Darwinian Evolution are not mutually
exclusive. There is a theory called Theistic Evolution that posits an
Intelligent Being starting the process of Darwinian Evolution. IMO, it is a
sad attempt at compromise.
Theistic Evolution would solve one major problem
On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 9:54 AM, James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com wrote:
Jojo, just so you don't feel too bad, I would consider it to be morally
justifiable to draw and quarter the editors of Nature magazine that
suppressed replication of cold fusion. Your dedication to theory over
experiment
http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/files/Initiation%20of%20nuclear%20reactions.pdf
A number of experiments that feature violent activity in water share the
same characteristics that LeClair observed in his LENR experiments. I see
the referenced experiment listed above demonstrating the
http://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/0911/0911.5495.pdf
Sorry. try this link.
On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 1:41 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:
http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/files/Initiation%20of%20nuclear%20reactions.pdf
A number of experiments that feature violent
I agree with Brad, JoJo is free to believe in whatever he wants. James owes
JoJo an apology.
2012/5/27 ecat builder ecatbuil...@gmail.com
On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 9:54 AM, James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com wrote:
Jojo, just so you don't feel too bad, I would consider it to be morally
Here is another interesting article in Slate's series, on the Columbia
disaster:
http://www.theatlantic.com/past/docs/issues/2003/11/langewiesche.htm
This is about the dysfunctional corporate culture in NASA.
When Columbia was in orbit, some people thought it might be damaged by the
falling
Peter,
If you are asking me I am Baptized Methodist and keep an open mind about
all things religion. I think the Bible is a great human teaching and was
constrained by the limits of human scientific knowledge at the time it was
written. My 8th great grandfather arrived on the second Mayflower
At 04:43 PM 5/25/2012, Jed Rothwell wrote:
Axil Axil mailto:janap...@gmail.comjanap...@gmail.com wrote:
Jed,
There were definitely bad management decisions made in both disasters based
upon technical information available.
To label NASA as a dysfunctinal corporate culture seems a stretch since
they are a bureaucratic goverment agency in which both cases managers
failed to move on actionable data.
Axil, In your opinion, is LeClair process the same mechanism as the Mitt Candy
Hexane/Propane process?
It seems LeClair is more Hot Fusion than LENR, and appears to be totally
different from Rossi, DGT, both of which seems different from Mitt Candy.
Any ideas/suggestions on what Mitt Candy's
Chemical Engineer cheme...@gmail.com wrote:
To label NASA as a dysfunctinal corporate culture seems a stretch since
they are a bureaucratic goverment agency in which both cases managers
failed to move on actionable data.
That's what I mean. That's the same thing. It was a dysfunctional
As I have posted before, it’s the shape of the crystal(AKA Rydberg matter,
Clusters) that is important, not what the crystal is made of.
In this regard, a nanowire can be made of carbon (Mint Candy – negative
charge concentration), water (LeClair - positive charge concentration), alkali
metals
It is not hard to envision the complex waiting procedure shown below with the
knowledge that we posses today. Things would have been far different for the
decision makers at the time since no one actually believed that the mission
would degrade as it did. Actually, we could move the decision
From: Abd ul-Rahman Lomax a...@lomaxdesign.com
Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2012 11:25:34 AM
But the title of this thread is Zawodny's video.
It was my fault bringing up Le Clair .. but I was following up on Bushnell's
quote (linked in the original post) about Labs blown up and windows melted.
David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote:
Can you imagine the uproar that would have occurred had a group of
engineers come forward and told their managers about their concern at the
time?
They did come forward! Read the article. While the Shuttle was in orbit,
they came forward, contacted the
At 04:17 AM 5/26/2012, Jojo Jaro wrote:
There appears to be some interest in this subject, so I will
continue discussing it as long as people want to discuss it by
responding. Apoligies to Bill in advance if this is inappropriate.
What was clearly inappropriate was such a thorough hijacking
I mean that when they finally did the test, the was that SIZE. Big enough
to put your head into. The resolution of the spy sat. cameras is not known,
and the size of the hole is not known, but it was probably large enough to
spot easily.
Unfortunately, this Shuttle did not have an arm. If it had
At 12:19 PM 5/26/2012, Harvey Norris wrote:
64 views before announcement...
beforeitsnews.com/story/2177/069/Localized_time-_space_curvature_demonstrated_from_3_phase_alternator_powered_666_machine.html
This measurement showed in the video is the most important
measurement ever made regarding
At 12:10 PM 5/26/2012, Chemical Engineer wrote:
Jed,
I suggest you remove all of those Hubble screen savers and
wallpapers off your PC. It cost way too much to produce them
On Saturday, May 26, 2012, Chemical Engineer wrote:
If that was the only accomplishment of the shuttle i might give
At 02:47 PM 5/26/2012, Jed Rothwell wrote:
In other countries such as Italy, Japan and China as well, nearly
all funding is from the governments. Granted, Toyota and some others
contributed a little, but only in tandem with governments.
And when it became clear that the Pons-Fleischmann
At 02:55 PM 5/26/2012, Daniel Rocha wrote:
This argument is not right. It is not valid also to compare it to a
computer or aircraft projects. The development of Hubble led to a
unique architecture, not to mass production. It would take a long
time to build another one. So, fixing it in space,
Capsule Declared 'Mission Ready' for Record Freefall Attempt
March 8, 2012 – The capsule that will bring Austrian pilot Felix
Baumgartner to the edge of space for his attempt to set a new world
record free fall is mission ready, according to the Red Bull Stratos
science team. A stratospheric
I think it would be a dream having multiple Hubbles for many researchers,
but the problem is that requiring multiple modules would require a lot of
extra funding, before the beginning of the project, and basic science is
something that people do not appreciate much since it has too much a fame
of
At 09:11 AM 5/27/2012, Jojo Jaro wrote:
I am unsure about your point or what you are asking.
What exactly is your discussion point or what exactly is your question?
Of course,there are strong inference. For example, if you find the
presence of Information in DNA, that is an inference for
At 09:30 AM 5/27/2012, James Bowery wrote:
OK, so you don't think you need an experiment.
Go fuck yourself.
Let's say that Jojo's post failed to inspire James
Everyone should know it was the Elohim.
http://www.salemctr.com/newage/center31.html
T
We are lambasting NASA about this, and yeah they deserve it. But don't
forget they also launched the Mars explorers. That is one one the greatest
achievements in the history of science and technology.
NASA is a big organization. Some parts are good, and some are bad. As I
said, when they are
You caught me in a technicality, Jed. The distinction between retirement
and tenure, especially in Fleischmann's case, is specious given what is at
issue:
Whether it is independence that is the foundation of scientific
revolutions, or the guidance of our esteemed institutions.
On Sun, May 27,
Agreed, as the shuttle work has also led to new technologies.
The Apollo program also lost Astronauts but gave us great technologies and
movies.
On Sunday, May 27, 2012, Jed Rothwell wrote:
We are lambasting NASA about this, and yeah they deserve it. But don't
forget they also launched the
James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com wrote:
You caught me in a technicality, Jed. The distinction between retirement
and tenure, especially in Fleischmann's case, is specious . . .
It is not specious. He was doing cold fusion when he was still an acting
professor. He did not do experiments
Well? Silence yields consent?
:-)
T
On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 6:55 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote:
Everyone should know it was the Elohim.
http://www.salemctr.com/newage/center31.html
T
I was thinking more along the lines of Sleestak...
Humans sometime behave more like the creatures on the show.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Land_of_the_Lost_characters_and_species
On Sunday, May 27, 2012, Terry Blanton wrote:
Well? Silence yields consent?
:-)
T
On Sun, May 27,
On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 10:29 PM, Chemical Engineer cheme...@gmail.com wrote:
I was thinking more along the lines of Sleestak...
Humans sometime behave more like the creatures on the show.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Land_of_the_Lost_characters_and_species
Indeed they do!
I always
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