Russ, Agreed, I was thinking the same thing, even LENR may be a good
detector, The EM drive is by design inefficient - only a small fraction of
the microwave energy is linked in an unbalanced manner to the spatial axis,
Shawyer and I both think this is relativistic in the same way that Jan
Naudts
Bob, It is an interesting article and It agrees with my own neo Lorentzian
perspective that virtual particles are the medium of the temporal axis only
becoming physical when passing thru what it perceive as a 2d spatial plane
even though we experience it as 3d. IMHO all physical matter and our
Axil, that was very well said but you still seem unwilling to turn the next
page! You stop at the examples of observers accelerating toward or away from
each other with an assumed baseline of zero velocity. We know that relativistic
effects are difficult to produce this way because C and dV
And below 1 graviton/ Plank scale you have quantum foam and wormholes so small
they average out to what we consider the isotropy long before any physical
matter can persist. IMHO it is the density of these wormholes that is being
manipulated at the most basic level of Casimir effect. IOW when I
Yes Jones, I knew even as I wrote it that the semantic issue was there. If
time and etheric stream remain at right angles to all inertial frames
throughout the entire physical universe it suggests a staggering size to the
proposed multiverse.
Fran
From: Jones Beene
How about divorcing the field properties from the heater – a separate power
feed for the SiC heater vessel and a field coil around it.. if SiC doesn’t
create a field I am supposing it doesn’t create a faraday shield either so a
surrounding coil should still be able to concentrate field lines
Kevin, you don’t have to convince me but mine is still a relativistic
perspective where C ALWAYS seems like C from the perspective of the local
observer inside the Casimir cavity who is unaware he is being time dilate.
Fran
From: Kevin O'Malley [mailto:kevmol...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday,
Axil, great observation and I agree totally, I have stated previously that this
may be observable when LENR reactors become available by placing a battery
operated reactor on one side of a beam balance scale and intentionally
unbalancing the counterweights, first with the unit off to establish
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2014/07/140724213957.htm
Source:
Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Summary:
A new material structure generates steam by soaking up the sun. The structure
-- a layer of graphite flakes and an underlying carbon foam -- is a porous,
insulating material
Good citation!
From: H Veeder [mailto:hveeder...@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2014 1:18 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Evidence of SR Length Contraction
This is what I described and illustrated from the frame of reference of the
train.
Section C shows the railway
about cracks
the NAE?
Frank roarty wrote:
Jones, Yes, I agree.. the paper from Cornell re catalytic action only
occurring at openings and defects in nano tubes
Again..the nanotube is only going to be active at the openings and
defects.. It is a macro example of the difference between casimir and
dynamic casimir effect and we clearly need a robust dynamic effect along
with robust thermal linkage to prevent it from self destructing.
Frank
From: Jones
Jones, Yes, I agree.. the paper from Cornell re catalytic action only
occurring at openings and defects in nano tubes would also lend support to
your suspicion that he may be legit. He is in the correct industry and may
have discovered a way to increase the defects thru self assembly that would
My takeaway from this paper is that Randy has embraced the inverse
Rydberg state of hydrogen as an equivalent description of his hydrino but he
doesn't finish describing the correlation between astrophysical hydrogen and
inverse rydberg hydrogen which is important.. Mills also embraced the
Jeff,
I agree with contraction and dilation of hydrogen because
that occurs from the perspective of both the stationary and near C observer
perspectives BUT why are you assuming the mass of the hydrogen should
increase if it is the surrounding metal geometry that is approaching C
Dave,
I think it is tied to relativity and no matter how hi the fraction of C that
hydrogen attains a local observer will always still see it as having a normal
ground state while a stationary observer sees it as contracted. Inside a
catalyst virtual particle pairs are suppressed by geometry
Is there a method to electrically modify thermal transfer rate. electrically
slowing the thermal transfer rate of the reactive material making it easier
to reach the critical zone and then be pulse width modulated to allow the
energy sink to prevent the dragon tickle becoming destructive runaway.
I've often wondered if Stainless Steele can properly contain fractional
hydrogen and doesn't act somewhat like a Pd filter turning fractional
molecular hydrogen into fractional atomic hydrogen as it is squeezed thru
the lattice with all the subsequent opportunity for anomalous behavior we
have
Jones,
As always you are well said and open minded.
Keep up the great work
Fran
From: Foks0904 . [mailto:foks0...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2013 9:07 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:More on the Kalman paper
Nice effort listing all the theories side by side
Jones,
This is parallel to my conjecture regarding Puthoff atomic model of
the elements and vacuum pressure being modified by quantum geometry such
that the elements exposed to the change
Are able to achieve new ground states but which the Naudt's paper
interprets as relativistic. I
Well, yes I agree see
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/12/131205142218.htm on wormholes,
entanglement and the effect on quarks as basis for a global gravitation
theory and spooky action at a distance. Teleportation and instantaneous
communication between Bob and Alice thru entanglement.
and decaying around
us. Life is boring otherwise :)
I think we are saying the same thing.
On Sun, Dec 8, 2013 at 8:22 AM, Frank roarty fr...@roarty.biz wrote:
Well, yes I agree see
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/12/131205142218.htm on wormholes,
entanglement and the effect
Yes Axil, that is based on the same underlying concept. The relativistic
interpretation of Casimir effect says the larger virtual particles are not
excluded from the cavity but rather space time translates locally such that
they get more space at the cost of less time. These dilated virtual
Axil, a skeletal catalyst is equivalent to nano powder..the voids where Al
is leached out of Rainy Ni have the same geometries as that formed between
grains of nano powders.
[snip] Mills would do well to add micro and Nano powders to his
design.[/snip]and both result in DCE as they form a
Again IMHO this is relativistic and the orbital scale below ground state
appears unchanged from the orbitals own local perspective, The quantum
effect of the conductive boundaries on the vacuum density means the electron
is displaced on what from our perspective is the time axis, that is to say
IMHO a multiple charge BUT. a fractional orbital from our perspective, a
Rydberg orbital that occurs inside the depleted vacuum density of a Casimir
cavity will appear closer than ground state from our macro perspective
outside the cavity while appearing like a normal Rydberg atom from it's own
Mark,
Nicely said! Ether never really left but nice to see it returning to center
stage. Changes in this ether / vacuum density due to nano geometry can
however polarize - segregate larger pockets of altered vacuum pressure
encompassing entire atoms and molecules and when these atoms or
Sorry Robin.. did not realize it was behind a paywall, I simply opened the
pdf at work but here at home got the subscription dialogue.. I think the
paragraph re critical distance should qualify as fair use and will fwd to
you on Monday.
Fran
-Original Message-
From: mix...@bigpond.com
Robin,
Nice concept.. I have seen a couple threads regarding this
transition from Rydberg to inverse Rydberg but I don't know if anyone else
has previously suggested this as the source of anomalous heat.. an endless
reversible transition based on geometry and hydrogen populations.
Fran
Terry. I disagree with your assumption that an irh atom can carry negative
energy out of the cavity.. the resonant relationship with virtual particles is
proportional to casimir geometry or lack thereof in the unbroken isotropy
outside the cavity where vacuum pressure only changes at
needs is some way to keep the atoms flowing and transporting
them back to the ‘entrance’…
-Mark Iverson
From: Frank Roarty [mailto:froarty...@comcast.net]
Sent: Sunday, August 04, 2013 5:20 AM
To: hohlr...@gmail.com
Cc: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: [Vo]:Irh energy upon exiting caviy
Terry
[mailto:jone...@pacbell.net]
Sent: Saturday, August 03, 2013 7:23 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: [Vo]:ICCF18 Kim Slides
_
From: Frank roarty
...just staying with Ni and f/h
Jones,
You said [snip] - but it has more recently been discovered that
deeply redundant hydrogen atoms (monatomic) can be absorbed into the
electron cloud of heavy metals and stay there permanently but NOT as
covalent molecules.
The f/H atoms that can do this are essentially neutral.
Pyrophoricity is a criteria being overlooked. Rayney nickel. Dust fusion. The
geometry of nano powder and the dislike of certain systems for oxygen and
strict cleaning regimes is telling us something. Even Rossi micron geometry and
DFG plasma suggest geometry being generated in situ.. I propose
Jones. Axial cited a paper last week that seemed to imply RM comes first and
then gets inverted .. rather nice since I always made the argument that Axial
was referencing RM instead of IRM but apparently both are involved or maybe it
is specific to location and suppression or lack there of..
Harry
Didn't Arrata have heat with PD powder at room temp? Maybe anomalous heat is a
function of transition thru Debye temp and those experiments extracting heat
provide repeated opportunities to make this transition at a higher rate.
Fran
Blaze, it is not a given that the energy source is nuclear, the data shows
some nuclear activity but I am not convinced that it is the cause of the
energy or just a side effect of intense heating based on ZPE. The need for
atomic hydrogen and thermal gradient does support endless reversible
Dave, The protons and electrons might both appear to be packed closer
together from our perspective due to suppression geometry.. Now that the
patent office has recognized LENR and the ability to accelerate radioactive
decay it may be time to again look at Jan Naudts paper regarding the hydrino
as
Would this make a better catalyst?
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/07/130717172901.htm
[snip] The most striking discovery was, however, not that they had produced
a new material but it was instead the striking properties they found that
this novel material possessed. It turned out that
Ed,
Please consider Axil's movie from a 3d bulk perspective..
which is where I believe his argument was headed, the single point of
contact becomes multipoint to many particles all self attracting into a
bulk form. essentially a rigid if not solid conductor with open voids.. I do
Thanks Axil
- much easier!
From: Axil Axil [mailto:janap...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, July 05, 2013 2:12 PM
To: vortex-l
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Finnish startup company Etiam OY filed a detailled LENR
patent application, published on May 30 2013
Jones,
Welcome to my world!! Jovian , Haish and Modell were originally focused on
helium and lamb pinch not f/h or changes is bond state.. Modell was
interested in hydrogen but the plan for the prototype was helium and .1u
cavities tunnels with alternate layers of insulation so they could flow the
Frank X. Roarty
Original Message
Subject: Vortex-l@Eskimo.com
From: Frank Roarty froarty...@comcast.net
To: kbar42...@mypacks.net
CC:
Mill's theory remains badly presented to the public - Jan Naudts gave him the
right answer in 2005 and the right way to present the hydrino
Frank X. Roarty
Original Message
Subject: Inert gas engine
From: Frank Roarty froarty...@comcast.net
To: hoyt.stea...@gmail.com
CC:
Hoyt,
The inert gas engine was developed from the Papp engine. For those such as
myself that believe all these anomalies from Black Light
on Mon, 28 Dec 2009 13:17:23 -0800 Stephen A. Lawrence very correctly said
[snip]
But why do you think there would be less energy needed to unload the Pd
than it released during loading? Nothing in these results suggests that.
Certainly if picogravity is at the bottom of it, you're
Many papers associate vacuum fluctuations with time dilation during pair
anti pair production but this is a balanced system so small and fleeting as
to appear isotropic to an observer at our scale. Einstein concluded that
time is dilated or always moves slower in a volume that contains a different
Esa,
Nice citations and interpretations! I posted some comments inline but was
disappointed your thread ended so soon. Can you expand any further?
Very Best Regards!
Fran
From: Esa Ruoho [mailto:esaru...@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2009 7:41 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
ON Fri, 22 May 2009, Horace Heffner said
On May 21, 2009, at 6:35 PM, Jones Beene wrote:
Then there is the gray area of fractions which are 1 but never integers.
The fractional quantum Hall effect (FQHE) is a physical phenomenon in which
charge is found which is not a complete integer
At 1:14 AM on , November 08, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote
To: froarty...@comcast.net; vortex-l@eskimo.com
At 06:07 PM 11/7/2009, Frank Roarty wrote:
Abd,
I have to take exception with your arguments. The claim is the EM
drive is an open system based on Relativity.
What does that mean
Abd,
I have to take exception with your arguments. The claim is the EM
drive is an open system based on Relativity.
You can't say free fall in deep space, so that gravitational fields are
uniform. The cavity claims to break that uniformity. Even when you say F=ma
remember that a is going
[Snip] The only way that the thrust could vary with velocity would be if
it
depends on velocity through a material or velocity through a field of
some kind.[end snip]
What if it only shields vacuum flux such that inside the cavity appears
relativistically to have a higher ratio of short to
Robin,
I would agree that defects in the lattice like 4nm gaps between
graphite would form cavities but the problem with using the lattices
themselves as the cavity is that I think lattice structures represent just
the opposite effect. Diatomic metal atoms start out covalent then form
Horace, you have succeeded in steering me away from using the DiFiore et all
proposals for anything other than demonstrating the break in isotropy. In
re-reading their paper it appears they are trying to quantify the opposing
net gravitational force for the entire structure of layered cavities. By
Nice! Sometimes I can't see the obvious, You are suggesting a formula to
make spent uranium into a skeletal catalyst? Already a great idea or did you
something even better in mind?
Fran
-Original Message-
From: mix...@bigpond.com [mailto:mix...@bigpond.com]
Sent: Friday, October 02, 2009
This thread may seem unrelated to energy but in the same way reactionless
drives are contemplated with respect to Casimir cavities these legends may
have a kernel of truth. There is no moving linear differential motion of gas
atoms like the reactionless drive theories but there are trapped ambient
Has Vortex previously considered cavitation of ambient gases in limestone
and other calcium based megaliths? Numerous cultures have common legends of
levitating great stones and I would be interested if they share rare earth
metal ingredients like calcium.
Just wondering...
Abd,
I don't think Mills papers or theory can be used without
interpretation because the fractional states are actually relativistic. I do
believe his data should be considered valuable as a measure to confirm new
theories. I believe that soon someone with more math skill than I will
in common? Looking for the 'right' questions.
Frank Roarty: Posted the reference to 'Fractional Quantum States for
Hydrogen within Casimir Cavitation;' more or less. Minds across the globe
are noticing that there is 'something' maybe extremely important here that
we need to collectively focus
Jak,
[Snip ]
Theory: Sudden compressed/concentration of 'energetically
hyper-compressed/cavitated-plasmodic-mass' of Atom's-Protons(as
micro-singularities) causes them to toroidally-centrifically accelerate
'dialate-at-centre' to allow a sudden 'plasmodic-charge-surge' from
Abd,
I recently blogged 2 articles on the hydrino issue on Science blog.
My intent was to release this information as an amateur to the public
domain. Right or wrong I hope you will find the ideas intriguing.
1.
http://www.scienceblog.com/cms/blog/7200-casimir-cavities-create-%E2%80%9Cgr
Horace,
I Thank you for all your help and won't contact you further
regarding this material.
Best Regards
Fran
On Saturday, August 08, 2009 Horace Heffner wrote
[Snip]
The snip you provide seems irrelevant to the issue at hand. The space
between conductive plates having certain wavelengths excluded therein is
analogous to the space beyond the glass on the side opposed to the light
source also having
A team at Cornell University has now filled in an important blank by
pinpointing unique sites where the reactions take place on SWCNTs. The
scientists showed that the reactions do not occur all along the tubes, but
at the ends of the tubes or at defects along the tubes.
From: Horace Heffner [mailto:hheff...@mtaonline.net]
Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2009 1:49 PM
To: Vortex-L
Subject: Re: [Vo]: PhysOrg article on breaking Plank's law
Horace,
August 04, 2009 1:49 PM Horace Heffner wrote:
On Aug 3, 2009, at 10:18 AM, Frank Roarty wrote:
Yes
, August 04, 2009 8:17 AM
To: Vortex-L
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Casimir force at slab edges
On Aug 3, 2009, at 10:48 AM, Frank Roarty wrote:
Mauro,
I converted my power point presentation on fractional
quantum states to html. I think it has bearing on your additional axis from
Yes,
It is actually one of the paths that led me into adopting
Naudts' relativistic solution in that everyone was assuming the hydrogen
orbital must be getting smaller because the only other variable in the
energy equation was Planck's constant - or not so constant from a
Mauro,
I converted my power point presentation on fractional
quantum states to html. I think it has bearing on your additional axis from
a relativistic perspective http://www.byzipp.com/energy/excessHeat.htm
Regards
Fran
From: Mauro Lacy [mailto:ma...@lacy.com.ar]
How about circulating a radioactive gas through fine metal powder, assuming
it doesn't become pyrophoric it would create through channel cavities
between the grains instead of dead end cavities inside the metal.
-Original Message-
From: Stephen A. Lawrence [mailto:sa...@pobox.com]
Mauro,
I did vaguely recall some controversy over carbon 14 dating
regarding samples taken from the pyramids but held my tongue less I be
considered a crackpot, This does get back to your comment in that limestone
may qualify as a Casimir cavity since calcium is a rare earth metal and very
I agree a small amount of rapidly decaying material trapped in a Casimir
cavity should decay measurably faster if the theory has legs.
-Original Message-
From: OrionWorks [mailto:svj.orionwo...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, July 24, 2009 3:11 PM
To: vortex-l
Subject: [Vo]:Hydrinos, Lorentz
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