Re: [Vo]:Compressed spring - what happens to the stored energy at different temperatures?

2012-09-07 Thread Harry Veeder
of the box, and therefore more potential energy. harry -Original Message- From: Harry Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Fri, Sep 7, 2012 1:16 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:Compressed spring - what happens to the stored energy at different temperatures? snip

Re: [Vo]:Brillouin Energy patent granted in China

2012-09-06 Thread Harry Veeder
On Thu, Sep 6, 2012 at 10:44 AM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: It is a QNF or quasi-nuclear fusion process involving the reversible reaction: P+P-2He-P+P If this reaction is always exothermic, wouldn't this mean the average the mass of the proton is decreasing with time? Harry

[Vo]:OT: The Wolf and the Lamb

2012-09-06 Thread Harry Veeder
The Wolf and the Lamb https://www.facebook.com/#!/photo.php?fbid=10151159779522268set=o.125457994160436type=3theater Harry

Re: [Vo]:Perpetual motion machine

2012-09-06 Thread Harry Veeder
forget it Jouni. Intellectually, the wolf of CoE will always win. (Why do I waste my time?) Harry On Thu, Sep 6, 2012 at 12:05 PM, Jouni Valkonen jounivalko...@gmail.com wrote: Stored energy in magnetic field for neodymium magnet is around 40-50 MGOe. As one MGOe is 7960 J / m³, this means

Re: [Vo]:a rather tragic joke

2012-09-06 Thread Harry Veeder
On Thu, Sep 6, 2012 at 3:15 PM, Peter Gluck peter.gl...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Friends. I have just published http://egooutpeters.blogspot.ro/2012/09/the-principle-of-chief-engineer.htm A miniatual, perfectly true but not easily believable story. As such has nothing to do with LENR but it

[Vo]:Compressed spring - what happens to the stored energy at different temperatures?

2012-09-06 Thread Harry Veeder
If a spring is compressed by a force at room temperature, the spring will return to its original length once the force is removed. In the language of CoE the compressed spring is said to store the energy of the work done by the force. Now compress the spring again and then place it in a bath of

Re: [Vo]:Perpetual motion machine

2012-09-05 Thread Harry Veeder
verifiable evidence, and experiments that found no excess heat and no excess helium would have been simply confirmations, just not very interesting ones. But it didn't happen that way. At 12:21 PM 9/4/2012, Harry Veeder wrote: Assuming no hidden power sources, the assumption is the work done

Re: [Vo]:Perpetual motion machine

2012-09-05 Thread Harry Veeder
I think the question of energy stored in a permanent magnet is a redherring. Replace the permanent magnet by a spring. The spring will lose its springiness over time as it is repeatedly compressed. Do we say this is because spring energy is being used up? Harry On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 12:41 PM,

[Vo]:Big Chill challenges Big Bang

2012-09-05 Thread Harry Veeder
Big Bang Theory Challenged by Big Chill ScienceDaily (Aug. 20, 2012) — The start of the Universe should be modeled not as a Big Bang but more like water freezing into ice, according to a team of theoretical physicists at the University of Melbourne and RMIT University. They have suggested that

Re: [Vo]:Perpetual motion machine

2012-09-04 Thread Harry Veeder
Assuming no hidden power sources, the assumption is the work done repeatedly lifting the magnets (and the rod at the side) will eventually exceed the energy required to place the magnets in their starting position. Harry On Tue, Sep 4, 2012 at 3:31 AM, Teslaalset robbiehobbiesh...@gmail.com

Re: [Vo]:Perpetual motion machine

2012-09-04 Thread Harry Veeder
. This can give also sound philosophical explanation. --Jouni On Sep 4, 2012, at 4:28 AM, Harry Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Sep 3, 2012 at 7:48 PM, Jouni Valkonen jounivalko...@gmail.com wrote: However I do not think that it is anymore complex idea than refrigerator magnet

Re: [Vo]:Perpetual motion machine

2012-09-04 Thread Harry Veeder
is really able to overcome the sticking problem and turn indefinitely. harry On Tue, Sep 4, 2012 at 1:33 PM, James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com wrote: Has anyone tried to do any arithmetic here? I mean to even an order of magnitude? On Tue, Sep 4, 2012 at 12:21 PM, Harry Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com

Re: [Vo]:Perpetual motion machine

2012-09-04 Thread Harry Veeder
On Mon, Sep 3, 2012 at 10:28 PM, Giovanni Santostasi gsantost...@gmail.com wrote: Technically a massive or a charged object moving in a circular path should emit radiation, gravitational or electromagnetic. The gravitational radiation emitted by a planet is extremely small so the energy loss

Re: [Vo]:Perpetual motion machine

2012-09-04 Thread Harry Veeder
On Tue, Sep 4, 2012 at 4:21 PM, MarkI-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.net wrote: I’d like to note a few observations about the later half of this vid: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqG-TL0WnjE - There are at least 6 places of energy-robbing friction: o 2 Drum bearings, (don’t

Re: [Vo]:Perpetual motion machine

2012-09-04 Thread Harry Veeder
On Tue, Sep 4, 2012 at 7:01 PM, Harry Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com wrote: I wrote: But that depends on a narrow definition of work which is the acceleration of a mass in the direction of a force. That is wrong. I should have said But that depends on a narrow definition of work which

Re: [Vo]:RSH in Electric Fields

2012-09-03 Thread Harry Veeder
On Mon, Sep 3, 2012 at 5:43 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: My don't try this at home variation would be making some very highly loaded PdD and then whacking it with a sledge hammer. Someone, I think more than one researcher, has

Re: [Vo]:Perpetual motion machine

2012-09-03 Thread Harry Veeder
On Mon, Sep 3, 2012 at 8:37 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Sep 3, 2012 at 8:07 PM, Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com wrote: Make him run that for some years and he might be slightly more convincing. Superfluid He can rotate for weeks without problem. Unfortunately, I

Re: [Vo]:Perpetual motion machine

2012-09-03 Thread Harry Veeder
On Mon, Sep 3, 2012 at 7:48 PM, Jouni Valkonen jounivalko...@gmail.com wrote: However I do not think that it is anymore complex idea than refrigerator magnet that is doing endless work against gravity or electron that can orbit nucleus without losing it's energy. In your example no work is

Re: [Vo]:Another View-Understanding of eCat working

2012-09-01 Thread Harry Veeder
There are never enough planck seconds in a day. harry On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 10:19 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: OOps! Rounding error. Planck time =5.4x10^-44s. T

Re: [Vo]:a new interview with Defkalion

2012-09-01 Thread Harry Veeder
Apple is probably secretly working on 'ifusion'. Harry On Sat, Sep 1, 2012 at 11:03 AM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax a...@lomaxdesign.com wrote: We don't know what it is. When we do, maybe resonant fusion? proton absorption? BEC fusion Sent from my iPhone On Aug 31, 2012, at 11:00 PM, Jeff

Re: [Vo]:Interview with Michael McKubre

2012-09-01 Thread Harry Veeder
On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 10:13 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com wrote: I doubt that an economic or structural panacea exists. Of course not. However, to throw your hands up and say that no economic or structural modifications are worth while is

[Vo]:Bob Park notes Fleischmann's death.

2012-09-01 Thread Harry Veeder
http://bobpark.physics.umd.edu/previous_issue.html 3. MARTIN FLEISCHMANN: DIED AUGUST 3, 2012 AT AGE 85. This is what I wrote in Whats New, 24 March 1989, the day after Cold Fusion was announced. The remarable report from the University of Utah that researchers had achieved deuterium fusion in

Re: [Vo]:Another View-Understanding of eCat working

2012-08-31 Thread Harry Veeder
On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 9:15 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 9:05 PM, ChemE Stewart cheme...@gmail.com wrote: I guess since massive black holes at the center of most galaxies warp spacetime you are probably right. Solar systems roll right around the drain

Re: [Vo]:Rossi said...

2012-08-29 Thread Harry Veeder
On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 9:27 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 9:04 PM, Giovanni Santostasi gsantost...@gmail.com wrote: It is going to be revealed soon the e-cat is a time machine too. And antigravity. T and sausage maker. harry

Re: [Vo]:Terawatt.com, magnetic-based power production device

2012-08-28 Thread Harry Veeder
This is a magnetic overunity device? Harry On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 1:54 AM, MarkI-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.net wrote: Serendipitously came across this company… anyone familiar with them? http://terawatt.com/ecm1/index.php?option=com_contentview=articleid=17Itemid=187 They have a very

Re: [Vo]:Wood is the new material

2012-08-26 Thread Harry Veeder
If oil is not needed for fuel and plastics, what markets will be left for the oil industry? lubricants? harry On Sun, Aug 26, 2012 at 8:08 AM, Michele Comitini michele.comit...@gmail.com wrote: A classical example of an old material that turns out to be incredibly hi-tech. Don't throw

Re: [Vo]:It's fission

2012-08-25 Thread Harry Veeder
On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 10:12 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 9:32 PM, Harry Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com wrote: encrusted protons? Hairy protons, Harry. Shaved for energy. T things you can do with a beard http://youtu.be/u2vZUsL6OOA harry

[Vo]:LENR appears to be gathering steam

2012-08-25 Thread Harry Veeder
Engineering News Online LENR appears to be gathering steam By: Jeremy Wakeford 24th August 2012 In February, this column introduced a contentious possible new energy source called low-energy nuclear reactions (LENR) or lattice-assisted nuclear reactions (LANR) – a process that was formerly

Re: [Vo]:video: An Explanation of Low-energy Nuclear Reactions (Cold Fusion) by Edmund Storms

2012-08-24 Thread Harry Veeder
have dislocations been considered? http://www.ic.arizona.edu/ic/mse257/class_notes/disclocation.html http://kasap3.usask.ca/images/photos/dislocation.gif harry On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 1:09 PM, Kelley Trezise ktrez2...@ssvecnet.com wrote: In what proportions are these transmutations occuring.

Re: [Vo]:Topology is Key. Carbon Nanostructures are King

2012-08-24 Thread Harry Veeder
I have heard that it depends on which isotopes of nickel are involved. harry On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 10:01 AM, Bob Higgins rj.bob.higg...@gmail.com wrote: Peter Hagelstein says that transmutation of nickel to copper is overall endothermic. On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 9:46 AM, Jones Beene

Re: [Vo]:It's fission

2012-08-24 Thread Harry Veeder
encrusted protons? ;-) harry On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 7:26 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: Sounds like you are a fast study, JoJo. Fran Roarty has got a lot of detailed info on Casimir on his site, and there are lots of specialized papers on CNT online. Other than that, you may be

Re: [Vo]:What a self-sustaining demonstration by Celani might accomplish

2012-08-22 Thread Harry Veeder
On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 6:06 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: People such as Patterson and Rossi failed deliberately. They went out of their way to avoid convincing the public, because that is their market strategy. Patterson told me so. Rossi has not told me that, but it is the

Re: [Vo]:UFO found on mars by new lander?

2012-08-22 Thread Harry Veeder
On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 11:36 PM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax a...@lomaxdesign.com wrote: At 07:47 PM 8/21/2012, OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson wrote: Humans are very good a filling in the dots. I suspect the ability to interpret (and particularly to extrapolate) one’s immediate surroundings was

Re: [Vo]:We want to believe.

2012-08-22 Thread Harry Veeder
From an evolutionary perspective an ability to persevere is an asset for finding food. Harry On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 5:36 AM, Jojo Jaro jth...@hotmail.com wrote: So, these Doctors know they know how people will behave in real life just because they studied how 500 people behaved in a GAME.

[Vo]:Feynman on the Papp engine and explosion

2012-08-20 Thread Harry Veeder
FYI Feynman on the Papp engine and explosion http://www.museumofhoaxes.com/comments/papparticle2.html Originally published in LASER, Journal of the Southern Californian Skeptics quote The engine started to go around, and there was a bit of disappointment: the propeller of the fan went around

Re: [Vo]:Feynman on the Papp engine and explosion

2012-08-20 Thread Harry Veeder
, James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com wrote: There was a man killed in this explosion. Either Feynamnn was guilty of manslaughter or Papp was guilty of manslaughter. Neither ever got his day in court. On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 10:36 AM, Harry Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com wrote: FYI Feynman

Re: [Vo]:McKubre clarifies his view of the Celani demonstration

2012-08-20 Thread Harry Veeder
On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 12:56 PM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote: I wish we had more guys looking over these Papp engines to determine whether or not they are real. The concept is interesting, and of course there are problems that need resolution before quantity production could be

Re: [Vo]:Analysis of W-L theory as applicable to Rossi device -- Third paper

2012-08-20 Thread Harry Veeder
Aim for the shield generator, or get a man on the inside to switch it off. harry On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 2:20 AM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: The super-atom produced as a large collection of coherent and entangled particles can completely lowers the Coulomb barrier. This is how atomic

Re: [Vo]:Homogeniety of space and the Lorentz transformations

2012-08-20 Thread Harry Veeder
Concretely, one should be asking if the laws of motion are isotropic in a given context. Experientially they are not, but the mechanical world view insists they are. Consider a pebble. It does not continue to move in straight line in the direction it is thrown, so to overide the experience that

Re: [Vo]:We need to be skeptical, and why: the future of Cold fusion

2012-08-20 Thread Harry Veeder
On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 5:23 PM, James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 5:18 PM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax a...@lomaxdesign.com wrote: if conditions are kept the same, it can suffice *for comparisons.* What if the comparison is between a known heat source (ie: unity) and a

Re: [Vo]:McKubre clarifies his view of the Celani demonstration

2012-08-20 Thread Harry Veeder
On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 1:14 PM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote: Yep, it is speculation at this point. Do you have any idea as to how the liquid behavior would generate the piston thrust? We need any new ideas out there as we attempt to understand this device. Consider a hydraulic

Re: [Vo]:LENR and Fermi Acceleration

2012-08-19 Thread Harry Veeder
some energy (photons or other) or matter upon the particle. Upon the object being measured, the object may instantly increase in mass or change velocity. Over time this energy will be transferred back to its environment as it evaporates... On Saturday, August 18, 2012, Harry Veeder wrote: BTW

[Vo]:OT: Psychonauts

2012-08-19 Thread Harry Veeder
- Dead Astronaut http://www.thefoxisblack.com/2011/08/05/space-suit-of-the-week-63/ This “Dead Astronaut” is a sculpture by Brandon Vickard, and I can’t quite figure out what is going on with this sculpture. As if astronauts didn’t have enough to worry about (sudden loss of pressure,

Re: [Vo]:LENR and Fermi Acceleration

2012-08-18 Thread Harry Veeder
of a particle? Probably not. But maybe there are subtleties that obey the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics, but allow for some counterintuitive effects. For example, refer to -- Concentrating Energy by Measurement http://arxiv.org/abs/1012.5868 -- LP Harry Veeder wrote: On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 8

Re: [Vo]:LENR and Fermi Acceleration

2012-08-18 Thread Harry Veeder
energy constant. This is possible only if the system is open... Concentrating Energy by Measurement http://arxiv.org/abs/1012.5868 Interesting theory. -- LP Harry Veeder wrote: Actually, I tend agree with Robin that measuring cannot increase the energy of the particle. My question

Re: [Vo]:LENR and Fermi Acceleration

2012-08-18 Thread Harry Veeder
the transfer of energy from somewhere else. Harry On Sat, Aug 18, 2012 at 7:31 PM, Harry Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com wrote: Hi LP, I haven't read the paper, but I don't disagree with claim. In fact it should not be unexpected. Even in a macroscopic system a concentration energy can come about

Re: [Vo]:Life Imitating Science

2012-08-17 Thread Harry Veeder
On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 3:02 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 1:35 PM, ChemE Stewart cheme...@gmail.com wrote: Are you certain or uncertain? I can't decide. certainly undecided harry

Re: [Vo]:Miley, et al - 62M Neutrons within 5 minutes - dangerous?

2012-08-17 Thread Harry Veeder
If it involves a shock procedure it sounds similiar to the piezonuclear systems studied by Cardone et al and they too obeserved neutrons. Piezonuclear neutrons from fracturing of inert solids http://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/0903/0903.3104.pdf (This was published in Physics Letters A) Harry On

Re: [Vo]:Miley, et al - 62M Neutrons within 5 minutes -- Fully reproducible

2012-08-17 Thread Harry Veeder
If the neutrons could be collimated they could be used in neutron scattering experiments. Harry On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 7:06 PM, pagnu...@htdconnect.com wrote: Well, Daniel If those neutrons are real, they would still be welcome news. Hopefully, the reaction could be modulated to reduce

Re: [Vo]:LENR and Fermi Acceleration

2012-08-17 Thread Harry Veeder
On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 8:57 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote: In reply to pagnu...@htdconnect.com's message of Fri, 17 Aug 2012 13:11:31 -0400 (EDT): Hi, [snip] Pardon for this very late postscript, time is hard to find. I believe you assume a wave function totally confined in all

Re: [Vo]:Theory Panel Dissensus

2012-08-16 Thread Harry Veeder
charge and angular momentum. On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 1:16 PM, Harry Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 6:02 AM, Chemical Engineer cheme...@gmail.com wrote: Conductivity inversion effects in a metal wire/lattice. It is well understood that a singularity carries

Re: [Vo]:Theory Panel Dissensus

2012-08-16 Thread Harry Veeder
On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 2:02 PM, Chemical Engineer cheme...@gmail.com wrote: OK, you are right, it did wake me up at night. Did you start having these dreams before or after you first read about quantum singularities? harry On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 2:00 PM, Harry Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com

Re: [Vo]:Inspiration

2012-08-16 Thread Harry Veeder
The flame that burns twice as bright burns half as long. Harry On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 8:18 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: David, I must be in the minority here with my expectation that COE must be at least nearly correct. Perhaps that is my hang

Re: [Vo]:Inspiration

2012-08-16 Thread Harry Veeder
On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 8:56 PM, MarkI-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.net wrote: RE: COE… Start here: http://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l@eskimo.com/msg57015.html COE begins with the phrase, IN A CLOSED SYSTEM, ... For sci-drones this phrase didn’t seem to stick! All they remember is

Re: [Vo]:The faint young Sun paradox

2012-08-15 Thread Harry Veeder
On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 2:16 AM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: http://physics.aps.org/articles/v5/90 It is now universally accepted that the reservoir of energy stored in the sun’s atmospheric magnetic field is what heats the localized plasma in the corona. In simplified terms, the

Re: [Vo]:Theory Panel Dissensus

2012-08-15 Thread Harry Veeder
On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 6:02 AM, Chemical Engineer cheme...@gmail.com wrote: Conductivity inversion effects in a metal wire/lattice. It is well understood that a singularity carries charge, angular momentum and radius like any other particle. It is also understood that when they evaporate

Re: [Vo]:Inspiration

2012-08-15 Thread Harry Veeder
Note...how much work is required de-ionize H+? Harry On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 11:05 AM, Chemical Engineer cheme...@gmail.com wrote: Ok i stand corrected On Wednesday, August 15, 2012, Jones Beene wrote: Ah, no … you better recheck From: Chemical Engineer Atomic hydrogen carries an

Re: [Vo]:Celani ICCF17 Presentation

2012-08-15 Thread Harry Veeder
On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 6:43 PM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax a...@lomaxdesign.com wrote: A dislike for the possibility that some knowledge might be wrong. (Mostly illusory. To use cold fusion to test existing theory, one must have a proposed mechanism. Exiting theory does rule out some mechanisms,

Re: [Vo]:Celani demonstration

2012-08-14 Thread Harry Veeder
how does he determine the ouput ? harry On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 1:14 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: Celani has set up his demonstration cell. The people from TI reworked the instruments and the LabView code that collects data. They did a beautiful job. Celani just told me that

[Vo]:The faint young Sun paradox

2012-08-14 Thread Harry Veeder
Models of the Sun's evolution predict the Sun was 70% percent as bright 2 billion years ago, and the Earth should have been an ice ball at that time. Yet the geological record indicates the oceans were liquid. A number of explanations have been proposed which haven't faired well upon closer

Re: [Vo]:Celani demonstration

2012-08-14 Thread Harry Veeder
Thanks for the detailed answer. Harry On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 6:26 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: Harry Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com wrote: how does he determine the ouput ? Briefly: The abstract says that at the lab they have a precision flow calorimeter. Here they are using

Re: [Vo]:The faint young Sun paradox

2012-08-14 Thread Harry Veeder
and the thicker atmosphere transported heat better from the tropics to the poles, producing a wider latitudinal band of temperature climates (this is known from geological studies) On 14 August 2012 23:27, Harry Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com wrote: Models of the Sun's evolution predict

Re: [Vo]:The Magic of Xenon

2012-08-14 Thread Harry Veeder
hmmm xenon --- xenomorph could there be connection with Chemical Engineer's gremlin? http://user.xmission.com/~vancea/Xenomorph.htm ;-) harry On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 7:15 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: The Magic of Xenon The study of Xenon is a large field of physics and

Re: [Vo]:The faint young Sun paradox

2012-08-14 Thread Harry Veeder
On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 8:47 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: A more sensible solution is that was NO faint young sun to begin with. I was waiting for someone to suggest this possibility. The same flawed model of solar mechanics that gives us the solar neutrino problem also

Re: [Vo]:The faint young Sun paradox

2012-08-14 Thread Harry Veeder
On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 11:42 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote: In reply to Jones Beene's message of Tue, 14 Aug 2012 17:47:44 -0700: Hi, [snip] The solar model of Mills posits non-nuclear hydrogen energy from the solar corona, and thereby solves both problems, and more. This corona energy may

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Another secret sauce.

2012-08-13 Thread Harry Veeder
On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 7:25 PM, Chemical Engineer cheme...@gmail.com wrote: Francis, My vision is a micro-singularity(gremlin) of collapsed matter weighing near a planck mass, 22 micrograms, roughly the weight of a grain of sand. You might envision this angry gremlin floating thu the

Re: [Vo]:the Coil

2012-08-12 Thread Harry Veeder
sorry if this has already been discussed, but does the papp engine heat up if the coil is removed? Harry On Sat, Aug 11, 2012 at 8:37 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote: In reply to Axil Axil's message of Fri, 10 Aug 2012 20:34:44 -0400: Hi, [snip] (*C12* is C12 in an excited state - it has an

Re: [Vo]:the Coil

2012-08-12 Thread Harry Veeder
does that mean the piston does not move? Harry On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 2:53 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: Removing the coil disables the Papp reaction. Cheers:Axil On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 12:32 PM, Harry Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com wrote: sorry if this has already been

Re: [Vo]:the Coil

2012-08-12 Thread Harry Veeder
but not with any force. Cheers:Axil On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 3:55 PM, Harry Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com wrote: does that mean the piston does not move? Harry On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 2:53 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: Removing the coil disables the Papp reaction

Re: [Vo]:the Coil

2012-08-12 Thread Harry Veeder
On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 5:00 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: did the reaction produce heat under those circumstances? Unknown. The only instance of heat production that I have run across is during the “anomaly”. A coil wrapped according to the original Papp specs in the patent,

Re: [Vo]:the Coil

2012-08-12 Thread Harry Veeder
On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 7:14 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote: In reply to Axil Axil's message of Sun, 12 Aug 2012 18:48:37 -0400: Hi, [snip] The most frequently introduced form of the ideal gas law is PV = nRT where *P* is the pressure of the gas, *V* is the volume of the gas, *n* is the

Re: [Vo]:the Coil

2012-08-12 Thread Harry Veeder
, no reaction therefore nothing to expand the gas and drive the piston On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 3:55 PM, Harry Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com wrote: does that mean the piston does not move? Harry On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 2:53 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: Removing the coil disables

Re: [Vo]:NIWeek2012 user contributed video - Big Physics panel discussion on LENR

2012-08-11 Thread Harry Veeder
His interests are far ranging like many people on this list. In his video interview with Celani he mentions he has an undergraduate degree in physics. harry On Sat, Aug 11, 2012 at 2:38 PM, Ruby r...@hush.com wrote: On 8/11/12 11:20 AM, Terry Blanton wrote: Also interesting is the author of

Re: [Vo]:Is Palladium a red herring?

2012-08-10 Thread Harry Veeder
Similiar to Jones suggestion that the mass of a proton is just an average, perhaps the charge of a proton is just an average, so what takes place is a momentary reduction of charge instead of charge screening. harry On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 8:15 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: For 20

[Vo]:Song in memory of Fleischmann

2012-08-09 Thread Harry Veeder
Song in memory of Martin Fleischmann http://youtu.be/6TsMKsU9Jtk Fleischmann obituary in the Telegraph http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/obituaries/9465201/Martin-Fleischmann.html Harry

Re: [Vo]:Blather in the mass media makes scientists think we are crazy

2012-08-08 Thread Harry Veeder
When is US soil US soil? Would a person be ineligible if the soil he was born on only became US soil after the person's birth? And what if the soil ceased being US soil after he was born? Instead of a simplistic rule, there should be some meaningful criteria for deciding eligibility. Harry On

Re: [Vo]:Blather in the mass media makes scientists think we are crazy

2012-08-08 Thread Harry Veeder
and money. ;-) harry On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 1:02 PM, Alain Sepeda alain.sep...@gmail.com wrote: why not a vote 2012/8/8 Harry Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com When is US soil US soil? Would a person be ineligible if the soil he was born on only became US soil after the person's birth

Re: [Vo]:The Fallacies of Darwinian Evolution - Genetic Improbability

2012-08-07 Thread Harry Veeder
Jojo, Whether or not macro-evolution can be explained by genetic mutations, species extinction have played a role in macro-evolution. If macro-evolution is caused by an intelligent designer, it follows that species extinction occurs by design. I think the main reason people reject conscious

Re: [Vo]:The Fallacies of Darwinian Evolution - Genetic Improbability

2012-08-07 Thread Harry Veeder
On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 12:02 PM, Jojo Jaro jth...@hotmail.com wrote: Doesn't Darwinian Evolution say we should be improving? Jojo Nope. Where did you get that idea? Harry

Re: [Vo]:The Fallacies of Darwinian Evolution - Genetic Improbability

2012-08-07 Thread Harry Veeder
On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 5:14 PM, Harry Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 12:02 PM, Jojo Jaro jth...@hotmail.com wrote: Doesn't Darwinian Evolution say we should be improving? Jojo Nope. Where did you get that idea? Harry Improvement happens within a micro

Re: [Vo]:Blather in the mass media makes scientists think we are crazy

2012-08-07 Thread Harry Veeder
On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 11:44 AM, Jojo Jaro jth...@hotmail.com wrote: Baloney, I said I would only reciprocate when attacked first; and that is exactly what I am doing. If you want attacks to stop, then call for moderation in this forum from the people who are most guilty. Off-topic posts are

Re: [Vo]:Curiosity

2012-08-07 Thread Harry Veeder
On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 11:07 AM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 10:44 AM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote: This reminds me of the War of the Worlds where we are the attacking party. The real irony is that the descent stage of Curiosity looks just like

Re: [Vo]:Blather in the mass media makes scientists think we are crazy

2012-08-07 Thread Harry Veeder
How many years until america elects a low income transgender muslim president? harry

Re: [Vo]:Blather in the mass media makes scientists think we are crazy

2012-08-07 Thread Harry Veeder
is a criminal and should be removed, by force if necessary. If I were American I would considered it nothing more than an indiscretion. However, I bet almost every president has trampled on the constitution while in office. harry - Original Message - From: Harry Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com

Re: [Vo]:Back to Reality on Earth, my friends, please!

2012-08-05 Thread Harry Veeder
Nature knows nothing of work. Nature has tendencies and proclivities. Man gets nature to work for him. The questions are 1) what are the tendencies and proclivities 2) how do you harness them to perform work? There are no mechanisms in nature, except for the harness (and possibly the whip).

Re: [Vo]:LENR Heat Vs. Coal Heat

2012-08-05 Thread Harry Veeder
I agree, that sooner or later global warming from waste heat will become an issue...unless we can cancel the waste heat with waste cold which is considered impossible according to the laws of thermodynamics. Now, if the laws of thermodynamics are absolutely true (or if we simply believe they are

Re: [Vo]:Darwinian Evolution (Was Tritium in Ni-H LENR)

2012-08-04 Thread Harry Veeder
Parts of the Earth may have undergone rapid catastrophic flooding thousands of years ago, but you don't have to believe in the bible to argue the case. The theory that some geological features formed very quickly instead of gradually is compatible with Earth being billions of years old. Harry

Re: [Vo]:Obituary: Fleischmann, 85

2012-08-04 Thread Harry Veeder
would you mind if I stuck a cross in the Vulture's poop? harry On Sat, Aug 4, 2012 at 6:10 PM, Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com wrote: I'd be ok (as it would matter...) if people used my organs to play sports or give it to vultures and forget me forever. -- Daniel Rocha - RJ

Re: [Vo]:Darwinian Evolution (Was Tritium in Ni-H LENR)

2012-08-04 Thread Harry Veeder
: Harry Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2012 3:46 AM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Darwinian Evolution (Was Tritium in Ni-H LENR) Parts of the Earth may have undergone rapid catastrophic flooding thousands of years ago, but you don't have to believe

Re: [Vo]:Koch founded climate skeptic changes sides

2012-07-30 Thread Harry Veeder
Jojo, what do you worship ? Harry On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 3:54 AM, Jojo Jaro jth...@hotmail.com wrote: Indeed it is getting silly Silly how people jam their beliefs of AGW down your throat. There is NO AGW. But even if there was, as many people said here, I'd rather have it warmer than

Re: [Vo]:ICCF-17: Brillouin is no more?

2012-07-27 Thread Harry Veeder
It would be ironic too, since Canada, in my estimation, leads the western world in *not* doing CF/LENR research. Harry (Canadian) On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 4:51 PM, Finlay MacNab finlaymac...@hotmail.com wrote: As a research scientist working for a solar start-up in Vancouver, I agree with Jed.

[Vo]:OT:Wealth doesn't trickle down – it just floods offshore, new research reveals

2012-07-22 Thread Harry Veeder
http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2012/jul/21/offshore-wealth-global-economy-tax-havens?newsfeed=true Wealth doesn't trickle down – it just floods offshore, new research reveals A far-reaching new study suggests a staggering $21tn in assets has been lost to global tax havens. If taxed, that

Re: [Vo]:Migrant Workers in China Face Competition from Robots

2012-07-21 Thread Harry Veeder
Da Vinci knew that man would someday have flying machines. I wonder how long he thought it would take. ;-) Harry On Sat, Jul 21, 2012 at 1:25 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: Chemical Engineer cheme...@gmail.com wrote: I agree with Mark, People will not have to learn LENR,

Re: [Vo]:Another Solar Firm Shuts Down

2012-07-20 Thread Harry Veeder
Also of interest is that during the 2000 elections the political symbolism of the colours red and blue switched in the United states. Red used to symobolize left-wing states and values and blue used to symobolize right-wing states and values. Now the converse is true. Harry On Fri, Jul 20, 2012

Re: [Vo]:Migrant Workers in China Face Competition from Robots

2012-07-18 Thread Harry Veeder
Long term deflation? Harry On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 12:23 PM, MarkI-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.net wrote: Alain wrote: “since energy is $5-7Tn and GDP is $70Tn, the potential saving on energy is around 10%” “maybe I miss the point?” Did you consider the following??? Energy is to

Re: [Vo]:Migrant Workers in China Face Competition from Robots

2012-07-18 Thread Harry Veeder
The flame of capitalism will be extinguished by sustained deflation. harry On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 12:56 PM, Harry Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com wrote: Long term deflation? Harry On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 12:23 PM, MarkI-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.net wrote: Alain wrote: “since energy

Re: [Vo]:Migrant Workers in China Face Competition from Robots

2012-07-18 Thread Harry Veeder
In order to keep the flame of capitalism burning the deflation will need to be counteracted with inflationary measures. Harry On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 1:04 PM, Harry Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com wrote: The flame of capitalism will be extinguished by sustained deflation. harry On Wed, Jul 18

Re: [Vo]:Migrant Workers in China Face Competition from Robots

2012-07-18 Thread Harry Veeder
In order to keep the flame of capitalism burning the deflation will need to be counteracted with inflationary measures. Harry On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 1:04 PM, Harry Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com wrote: The flame of capitalism will be extinguished by sustained deflation. harry On Wed, Jul 18

Re: [Vo]:principles of DGTG 's technology

2012-07-17 Thread Harry Veeder
On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 11:26 AM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote: I understand your position Jed. You point is well taken about the need for verification of the data by independent organizations but I feel that any data at this time is better than none. I plan to operate under the

[Vo]:The temperature of the observable Universe

2012-07-16 Thread Harry Veeder
Normally we expect an expanding gas will cool, but if the rate of expansion were accelerating then the temperature of the gas might be steady or even increasing. If the observable universe is expanding at an increasing rate, is the temperature of the universe is decreasing, steady or increasing?

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