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This thing might not be that important or ever be built etc., but I did like
the thought process revealed by the design. He seeks niches or exclusions in
otherwise impossible general characterizations of a problem, and unique
solutions emerge. The not-fully-evacuated tube is probably the primary
for diatoms looks pretty solid.
The red rain sounds like a SciFi plot. that would cause some doubt - but
not those images.
Too bad ACC is not around to comment.
From: Rick Monteverde
You may have heard of this already, and it involves the usual suspects
(Wickramasinghe). Skepticism
Years ago one afternoon, I was at a stop sign and the Moody Blues were on
the radio, singing the words Timothy Leary's dead. Oh no, he's outside,
looking in. At that moment, I looked over to the sidewalk to see a white
haired gentleman looking back at us who looked kind of familiar. Yes, it
really
The gravity from mass always has a component of divergence, but linear
acceleration doesn't. Am I correct to think that is one of the reasons
equivalent is used instead of identical?
R.
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From: itsat...@gmail.com [mailto:itsat...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Alexander
Maybe they just don't like the sun in their face?
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From: OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson [mailto:orionwo...@charter.net]
Sent: Friday, April 09, 2010 3:23 AM
To: Vortex
Subject: [Vo]:Magnetic alignment in grazing and resting cattle and deer
Apparently it's true!
/
- Rick Monteverde
Honolulu, HI
Don't forget the electric car in the garage.
-Original Message-
From: Terry Blanton [mailto:hohlr...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, February 22, 2010 9:12 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:The BLOOM BOX
http://www.ecogeek.org/content/view/411/
I think Bloom Energy is looking to
The thing's huge! And add the fuel tank too. Not practical for a car.
-Original Message-
From: Terry Blanton [mailto:hohlr...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, February 22, 2010 9:41 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:The BLOOM BOX
On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 2:25 PM, Rick Monteverde r
Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
... maybe those bacteria are smarter than we think.
Interesting statement, reflecting a notion that's starting to catch on from
different disciplines and directions.
That would also explain the coincidence of natural gas
(or oil, if that's the case) and helium.
Nice hook
Jones Beene: ... there are zillions of moons out there to colonize
Of course there are a few right here in our own neighborhood that are decent
candidates for deep bio activity. And aside from that one where we are to
attempt no landing..., we wouldn't have to fight off those annoying blue
people
Horace -
The object was low in the SSW about an hour after sunset. Still working on
finding out the viewing angle and umbra position, but the max sight angle
was around 22 degrees. Came up vertically from the horizon out of the SSW,
turned towards the west and moved parallel to the horizon for
The tech from the link below interests me. I'd like to see something like
that tied to vehicle tax fees for pay as you drive efficiency. Eventually
this could evolve into an aviation-style control system like a TCA for
heavily used corridors during peak use for a more fair distribution of taxes
]:Traffic accident deaths in Japan hit 57-year low
From the article Rick Monteverde linked to:
MyRate is designed for safe drivers, comments Richard Hutchinson,
Progressive's MyRate general manager. It's for people who drive fewer miles
than average, at low-risk times of day and keep alert
We don't get many sightings out here, we're a distinct dull spot on the UFO
observation map. This is the my first sighting spanning 40 years here of
something having a real chance of being anomalous. By coincidence we have
the chief of state vacationing here, and some of the more conventional
More like torsion on a powerful weapon, but hey - at least he was right
about that 19.5 degree latitude for planetary swirls, volcanoes, sunspots,
etc.
R.
-Original Message-
From: Terry Blanton [mailto:hohlr...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 3:14 AM
To:
Horace -
My sighting wasn't just after sunset, it was just after nightfall - total
darkness. There was just a vague hint of fading light on the horizon, but
the sky surrounding the object, which was relatively low in the southwest,
was already black.
I did find something on the
Sunset at my location in Honolulu that day was 5:59 PM, sighting was at 6:58
PM. I'll look for a star chart to get the sighting angle for the object.
- R.
Saw an orange fire colored UFO last night just after nightfall. The path was
that of an object flying in a curved path at high altitude (a u-turn,
basically), definitely not a satellite, and a bit brighter than a good space
station sighting. Even through 8x binoculars it appeared as a point
I can't wait until the detection threshold comes down - like to the level of
moons around these big planets. Bet that's where the action is as long as
the system is in the liquid water zone.
R.
Michael -
Thanks for the link. Hardly anything smells as bad to a greenie liberal
these days as an oil company lobbyist, but the old saying: the enemy of my
enemy is my friend. I can appreciate anyone helping to reveal or hold forth
against the AGW hoax and the accompanying fraud being
Terry:
I sure you remember the ending to this one:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Boy_and_His_Dog
One of my favorites.
I heard from the media back in around 1980 that J. Falwell was a really bad
guy. No internet back then. He had a rally at the state capitol here and I
lived nearby, so I went
Terry -
Back in the day I'd go large. Now I hide from them along with the other sane
folks.
- R.
-Original Message-
From: Terry Blanton [mailto:hohlr...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 1:12 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Crematorium to use burning bodies to
Jed Wrote:
I expect the researchers are guilty of suppressing opposing points of view
through the peer-review system, but the other accusations are silly.
Yeah, a real minor thing, that.
Nick Palmer has zero credibility on this particular issue as he has openly
advocated on this
Stephen wrote:
... I can't help but think any assertion that expressing any particular
belief should be ILLEGAL [in the United States] must be nothing more than
a personal expression of frustration, or possibly a straw man set up to
start an argument. ...
I think what NP was referring to was for
I got 404 on that link.
- R.
-Original Message-
From: Stephen A. Lawrence [mailto:sa...@pobox.com]
Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 5:31 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC Nick Palmer uploads video on Climategate
On 12/09/2009 05:51 PM, Michel Jullian wrote:
Nick Palmer wrote:
I think you're going to have to dig up some evidence of that Rick. Perhaps
you have been listening to too many Limbaugh'esque talk show propagandists
without critical analysis.
Done. Been listening to you. Clear references to your desire that voiced
opposition to your
Sure it's propagated from a clean tested starter batch, etc. The problem is
that what you don't know can kill you, and there's so much that is unknown,
and so much that can kill you.
Do you know how much of the human genome is of recent (and ancient) viral
and bacterial origin? Are you aware of
Jed wrote:
Many right-wing commentators believe the trends are opposite,
and that freedom and self determination is decreasing.
These people don't know much about history.
What I wrote was a right-wing comment, precisely because I, as do these
people, know enough about history to know how
So then Jed sez: Ah, then you know the wrong history, or you misinterpret
it, you poor dears.
I'm well aware there was far less freedom in all categories in the past, not
to mention elsewhere in the world today. My regret is that we are willingly
giving up what we have now to return to a form of
Terry -
(Gasp!) Jed does not like sushi?!
LOL! Me too, reading that was a bit like the head rush I get from the usual
overdose of fresh wasabi!
- R.
This is rather scary. If they can do pig, could long pig be far behind?
Soilent is...
R.
Why not both?
Best photograph I never took and forever kick myself for missing: at a state
fair, in a stall for cattle, there was a First Place ribbon over Boopsie
or whatever, and a sign thanking Safeway for purchasing etc. etc. And there
was a ~12 year old girl who apparently raised it, with
]:Question about hot glass
Rick Monteverde wrote:
The hot (1800+ degF) and warm (1450+ degF) glass I've worked with
always stays clear. Glass from a furnace is extremely
clear, you can
look at the bottom of the pot and it looks like there's
nothing in there.
In this case it's
The hot (1800+ degF) and warm (1450+ degF) glass I've worked with always
stays clear. Glass from a furnace is extremely clear, you can look at the
bottom of the pot and it looks like there's nothing in there.
The really weird thing is when gold metal gets translucent. Noticed it for
years but
I'm not sure if it's an amateur level process to deposit an even, superthin
layer of TiO2 on to the glass (silica) nanostructures, but even I've
anodized plain Ti metal with a battery charger and Coke (regular, not diet)
as the electrolyte. Diatom silica structures operate as photonic crystals,
Algae again - diatoms have been tried with some success. Stuck to the
conductive substrate, they are coated with a layer of titanium dioxide.
Photons ping around in the fancy geometric nanostructures for increased hits
on the dye-sensitized stuff thereby knocking loose more electrons, or
something
I still have Vortex-C in my email folder list, but it's empty and I forget
what it was for. Vortex Classic?
- Rick
Inadvertent condensation near the rim of a visually cloaked disc shaped
field-effect craft?
- Rick
Geothermal wells are in place today where the heat source is nearer to the
surface, and have been for some time. Water goes down the pipe, picks up
heat, comes up steam. Why do you think that wouldn't work?
- Rick
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From: David Jonsson [mailto:davidjonssonswe...@gmail.com]
Sent:
As you said, but also gas emissions from the geothermal wells have proven to
be a far greater problem than waste heat. They had a big problem with
hydrogen sulfide and other stuff in Puna, Hawaii. There can also be ground
water changes and other issues when a near-surface source is tapped. Deeper
Horace -
Free association^2 ... Some theories hold that some of the tiny calcium
particles in some water supplies are formed by nanobacteria. Water with
special properties (healing, etc.), for instance Arkansas hot springs
water, have a high concentration of these organisms(?). Don't know if
Dunno, I forget. I seem to remember something about burning aluminum, even.
I think there's quite a few things out there that aren't practical because
they take too much energy to make. That's why they haven't been explored.
-Rick
-Original Message-
From: itsat...@gmail.com
Just go to PayPal and send to Bill's email address: bi...@eskimo.com and
he'll get it.
- Rick
-Original Message-
From: Steven Krivit [mailto:stev...@newenergytimes.com]
Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 12:41 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:politics and religion
Taking
Couldn't a broad build-out of nuke plants make electricity cheap enough, at
least in dedicated operations, to use the resulting electric power in the
cost-effective manufacture of synthetic transportation fuels? At the extreme
end of the scale where your source energy cost goes very low, all sorts
Mashing that with Natal and an interface to X10 might be kinda fun.
Leaking pen wrote:
It actually picks up brain waves, from my understanding.
snip
I don't think Randi would be interested in a female child, so you're off the
hook there.
Nice shot on the messenger, well done!
(got anything on his message? )
-Original Message-
From: Nick Palmer [mailto:ni...@wynterwood.co.uk]
Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 3:43 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:The Science of Greenhouse Effect...Time for
some balance?
-Original Message-
From: Jed Rothwell [mailto:jedrothw...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 3:34 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com; vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: [Vo]:first day in carbon capture
That may be incorrect, but it is not nonsense. It is
supported by some data and
in carbon capture
Rick Monteverde wrote:
The assertion made by
Fink -- that high
CO2 levels do not affect human respiration therefore the global
warming hypothesis must be wrong -- is not supported by data or
theory. . . .
[Fink] may be incorrect, but it is not nonsense
The message, despite the link, was clearly ad-hominem.
-Original Message-
From: Stephen A. Lawrence [mailto:sa...@pobox.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 10:13 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:The Science of Greenhouse Effect...Time for
some balance?
The page in
Jed wrote:
If you would like to argue that salt or CO2 in the wrong places in the
wrong amounts are not pollutants, let's see some reasons.
Wait a minute!
- Anthropogenic contributions of CO2 to the atmosphere is warming earth's
climate (and we're at the tipping point now, etc.) If you say
I love garage floor 'experiments'. g
The effects you describe are from recombination though, right?
- Rick
-Original Message-
From: Hoyt A. Stearns Jr. [mailto:hoyt.stea...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, May 29, 2009 1:55 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: [Vo]:Compression and
For a fresh scientific angle on the numerous inconsistencies in Darwinism:
http://www.panspermia.com
Good call, Frank.
- Rick
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From: fznidar...@aol.com [mailto:fznidar...@aol.com]
Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2009 2:11 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: [Vo]:send Bill B some money for putting up with a lot
I did.
_
Huge
for putting up with a lot
Does anyone remember the Paypal or Amazon links to donate?
Terry
On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 2:00 PM, Rick Monteverde
r...@highsurf.com wrote:
Good call, Frank.
- Rick
From: fznidar...@aol.com [mailto:fznidar...@aol.com
Rhong -
Thanks for posting that. I have blocked the troll directly via email filter
and yet I constantly wade through the debris left behind when otherwise
responsible forum members attempt to answer or correct the troll's
nonsense posts. Please note that this forum is archived online, and this
Yes, unless during the process the elements in motion somehow tap an energy
source. Fraudulently done with coils or a directed stream of air from stage
left. More interestingly achieved with temperature differences, or other
less obvious sources - variations in electric charge from the air and
This is interesting, and it sounds like oriented water.
The resilience may be in the vertical range, but there may be variablilty of
friction in the horizontal domain, one that might be influenced with a broom
(or electric charge?).
-Original Message-
From: Harry Veeder
Ha ha - showing your age - still harboring notions of privacy, I see.
-Original Message-
From: Jed Rothwell [mailto:jedrothw...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, May 15, 2009 9:09 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:check this out..someone is doing a lot of
work collecting this
Fellow time traveller:
Went to the hardware chain store here the other day to get a bag of plaster.
They didn't have any, and the clerk wasn't even really sure what it was and
got suspicious - asked what I wanted it for. I should have told her I was a
terrorist and I was going to jump on a subway
plaster, or concrete plaster?
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 1:05 PM, Rick Monteverde
r...@highsurf.com wrote:
Fellow time traveller:
Went to the hardware chain store here the other day to get
a bag of plaster.
They didn't have any, and the clerk wasn't even really sure what
Horace -
That's what I was thinking too, but wouldn't those dangly things on his
table lamp serve to indicate air flow? They look rather heavy, but also look
like they hang loose enough to indicate a fairly small breeze.
R.
---
By use of air flow directed by a large orifice
There are several videos. In one he says that people have complained that
the lamp beside the disc has a coil or something in it and he picks it,
turns it over, peels off the back to show inside it. The lamp has dangling
glass or plastic decorative parts that swing and move easily.
My impression
Remember the claims about sprouting plants tending to lean to center when
grown above a spinning mass? If you ever suspected that spinning certain
things (bismuth, brass, superconducting rings or discs, etc.) might cause
some anomalous gravity-like effects, the experiment below might look pretty
Are are you the guy who writes copy for the labels on Dr. Bronner's castille
soap?
- R
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From: Harbach Jak [mailto:ja.harc...@hotmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2009 9:32 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: [Vo]:Tribute~2-Hawking~*~Newton left hitch-hiking~;-) ConceptCraft
Two seemingly similar but completely different situations. In LENR there is
good evidence of heat and nuclear processes evolving from singular
experiments where the parameters are well known and easily contained. On the
other hand, there is no evidence whatsoever that humans have the ability in
Stephen:
... Rick, you're of the opinion that things have gotten hotter ...
Please insert may (have gotten hotter), since it seems to be a trend,
although trends in complex dynamical systems are notoriously untrustworthy.
Jed:
The planet's weather is less complex than a bacterium? Funny
Grok killfile
Useless troll, no contribution whatsoever - typical megalomaniac problems.
Request removal by list owner.
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From: grok [mailto:g...@resist.ca]
Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 11:58 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Author believes energy
turmoil.
-Original Message-
From: Jed Rothwell [mailto:jedrothw...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 12:25 PM
To: vortex-L@eskimo.com
Cc: bi...@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: [Vo]:Author believes energy breakthroughs have been suppressed
Rick Monteverde wrote:
Useless troll, no contribution
Thomas -
What planet are you living on Jed? Did you hear the news?
Pakistan (100 nukes) is being over run by Al Queda, Iran
has enough material to build one, and they just launched a satellite.
Well, at least Obama's not really a socialist, it's just opportunistic
political opponents telling
Jed -
Jindal's comments are an example of the lingering anti-technology,
anti-science attitude of the Bush administration and the Republican
Party. Unfortunately, there is a lot of this attitude in the rest of
A demagogue takes things out of context and twists them, weaving truthful
content
Rapa Nui, a few generations ago: Keep carving that basalt, citizens. Your
intellectually superior rulers know that the only way to get out of this
crisis is to spend the last of our strength and dimensionally significant
forest resources in carving out and dragging these giant Tikis to the other
Jed -
... you are not familiar with modern volcano monitoring.
Not that you would know anything about me or the ideas and interests I've
discussed here all these years, but do you even consider where I live, who I
have worked with here, and what I live ON? (Hint: I'll spot you a 'v', an
'o',
Random thought: Americans are largely Sino phobic. Maybe that's useful: a
cold fusion gap with the Chicoms. We must catch up! Not being entirely
facetious here. I know the media dumps on LENR, but they really have ZER0
loyalty to any position they seem to be taking. It's whatever works for them
at
am talking here only about volcano monitoring.
Rick Monteverde and Jindal may be correct about the overall recovery plan. I
have not looked at it. For all I know, it could be 90% pork and wasted
money on unnecessary functions of government. Naturally I understand that
some people favor government
to mess around with.
- Rick
-Original Message-
From: Jed Rothwell [mailto:jedrothw...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 1:40 PM
To: vortex-L@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Happy Easter (island), and keep your volcanoes clean
Rick Monteverde wrote:
Instead we cripple ourselves
This is a troll, right?
Glorious examples of Socialism's successes please?
Thought so.
-Original Message-
From: grok [mailto:g...@resist.ca]
Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 6:05 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Who is John Galt?
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Hash:
Experiment on Beneviste claim RE altering the properties of pure water
through EM excitation:
http://www.fasebj.org/cgi/content/full/20/1/23
While failing to confirm any effects by informing water through the
application of EM signals, the problem of experimenter effects did make an
appearance.
Jed -
I think we've got to have this - when it's ready for prime time. It has to
be fair such as taking into account fuel efficiency as you mentioned, and
also be able to maintain privacy. That last one I think is the killer for
extensions of systems like this for now, but it should be
I ever tell you the one about recovering lumber from the wonderful old
growth sunken logs down in an Amazon basin region flooded by a dam project
lake? South America should have been a clue. Good thing it was only
pennies.
-Original Message-
From: OrionWorks
My first thought when hearing about the From 43 to 44 envelope he found in
his desk.
-Original Message-
From: Terry Blanton [mailto:hohlr...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 8:31 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: [Vo]:New Era of Openness
snip I wonder if BO will give us
Steven -
Not so much striking out and hating is heard on that show (if any) -
specific political opposition to liberalism is. But you wouldn't know that
unless you listened.
Far worse than completely miscasting RL's statements is your attempting to
create equivalence between regular Limbaugh
Jed -
You may not agree with him, but you cannot accuse him of hiding his agenda
or views.
Synchronicity in action: At the very moment I read those words of yours
above I was listening to the recording of Charlie Rose and Tom Brokaw
discussing how nobody knows where he really is philosophically
Have I got this right? - The 2012 alignment with the plane of the galaxy is
NOT and alignment of our solar system crossing the plane as it swings above
and below. That crossing happened thousands of years ago and we're now
'above' it heading further away from the plane. The alignment is actually
Probably just lizzies offloading beer and barbeque sauce for the big Equinox
party in 2012. Hope we're not on the menu!
Specifically, documents revealing a list of Non-terrestrial officers
and off-world cargo operations somewhere out in space, hinting at the
real possibility of military
Jones -
It appears from your message that you are saying that you think Cheney might
want to attempt to do harm to our new president through contacts in the
Secret Service. Ok, I guess *anything* is technically possible. Actually I
think I saw the essential parts of that plot on a really bad
Jed -
So the books are over your head, huh? I'm still just trying to catch up with
the concept of chimps wanting to critique their own digital images. Perhaps
they'd like to edit them too? Might be interesting to see which monkey-parts
they would decide to enhance.
- Rick
-Original
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From: Jed Rothwell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, September 29, 2008 4:47 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC News of the bailout
Jed -
They should magically impose their will on the party if they honestly
believe it is good
Jed wrote
Republicans thought it stank. The vote was:
Democrats 140 Yea, 95 Nay
Republicans 65 Yea, 133 Nay
More to the point snip
Even more to the point, voters are liking it about 10:1 against. So who's
doing the representin' here?
And Jeff is right, twice. Dems have the majority, no
Jed -
environmentalists have no influence over oil companies.
You're making a joke here, right? Then who was it behind implementing all
our laws reflecting environmental concerns re pipelines transport,
available drilling locations offshore and otherwise, refinery locations,
construction and
Jed -
No responsible fossil fuel industry experts or decision-makers disagree
with these laws.
So oil industry experts and decision makers agree with the offshore drilling
ban, for instance? Do they agree with this new phony-Pelosi
drill-'em-where-they-aint law? Or do they agree that the
Jed -
You seem to believe some widespread propaganda regarding oil and energy.
I suggest you read some books about the subject written by experts who
have no political agenda, such as Deffeyes. Also, I suggest you spend
some
time reviewing the data at the Energy Information
Even Nick Palmer wrote:
.. Actually it was environmentalists snip
Thanks, that was my point. Why they do it is another subject.
- Rick
I volunteer at a polling place (Honolulu). Started doing that after the 2000
election to try to keep all that Florida style craziness from happening
here. Most people here have the idea that those machines are junk and vote
paper. Last election I think we had about 6 voters use the machine out of
Horace -
If you don't think it's relevant, then you don't think you know exactly
what's driving it (and you'd be right), and therefore you couldn't possibly
know where it would go if you tried driving it yourself. But Horace, if you
*know* that you *can* predict and even steer an immense chaotic
Nick -
Yes, I believe that right should be taken away. Responsibilities
outweigh rights.
We can debate and disagree and be sarcastic and so forth on a forum like
this. But to really declare for taking down the voices of dissent, you've
placed yourself in a very special category, and I promise
Steven -
No such insinuation was made or implied by me, but you go on and on as if I
had, leading inevitably to the conclusion that I don't know what I was
talking about, which of course discredits the position I have taken on this
issue. Is this what you call an intellectually honest discussion?
Jed This analogy is flawed. Predicting climate change in the future is
like predicting the overall trend of the market.
Predicting climate change in the future is like predicting the overall trend
of the market. This analogy is flawed.
- Rick
Jed -
Chaos and complexity are two separate and unrelated characteristics.
Well, they're separate anyway. A chaotic system could be very simple and
still have very complex outputs. Or it might have simple and much more
predictable outputs. Depends on the structure, but not necessarily the
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