Jed wrote:

 

>> That's invasive <.>

 

As I understand it, privacy is currently the biggest knock so far against
these kinds of schemes. Technically they are very doable now and for a small
fraction of rail costs for a given urban path. "They" will supposedly know
when and where you were if the data is personally identifiable, which in the
end it must be for billing purposes. Then of course there's fears of
hacking, etc.  - the usual for life in the (computer) clouds. But these
kinds of challenges can be met given serious motivation and effort. 

 

Health care, terrorism, transportation, taxes & user fees - tech is taking
us down the road to pervasive monitoring whether we like it or not.
Libertarian/conservative though I am, yet I think trading some privacy in
return for freedom, while intrinsically undesirable, is actually not too bad
a trade these days where the benefits are significant. But trading freedom
for security is still to be avoided if at all possible. I think some people
confuse privacy with general freedom. For instance I couldn't care less
about some doofus TSA employee seeing me in a highly detailed body scanner
if it means I remain free travel by air while minimizing terror threats.
Might bother some celebrities a bit. Let 'em go by boat then. It's not like
their pictures aren't on the internet already.

 

-          R.

 

 

From: Jed Rothwell [mailto:jedrothw...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 10:54 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: [Vo]:Traffic accident deaths in Japan hit 57-year low

 

>From the article Rick Monteverde linked to:

"MyRate is designed for safe drivers," comments Richard Hutchinson,
Progressive's MyRate general manager. "It's for people who drive fewer miles
than average, at low-risk times of day and keep alert for others on the
road. They don't make fast lane changes or follow too closely behind other
drivers so they don't have to over-react or slam on the brakes." 

Drivers who choose to sign up for MyRate receive a device that plugs into a
port in their car and measures how, how much and when the car is being
driven. . . .


That's invasive, but I like it! I'd go for it, if it were available in
Atlanta, and if it works with a 16-year-old Geo Metro.





I'd like to see something like that tied to vehicle tax fees for pay as you
drive efficiency. Eventually this could evolve into an aviation-style
control system like a TCA for heavily used corridors during peak use for a
more fair distribution of taxes and fees, an incentive to reduce congestion,
reduce accidents, and perhaps the ability to fine tune traffic flow on the
fly.


Good ideas, all.

In Japan they are pushing vigorously for more automated driving, with things
like radar and accident warning systems, and intelligent computers that warn
when pedestrians or other cars may be crossing ahead. This is often featured
on the nightly news. I do not think they have any near-term plans for fully
automated highways, but R&D in that direction is proceeding in both the U.S.
and Japan. On one hand, it looks to me as if these gadgets they intend to
install soon will cost a fortune. On the other hand, they had 736,160
accidents and 908,874 people injured in Japan -- as noted in the second
article I cited. That must have cost billions of dollars. Reducing that by
even a modest percent would save a lot of money and anguish. It is like the
cost of emergency R&D for the H1N1 vaccine. Imagine how many millions of
hours of misery and lost work-hours that prevented!

The dollar cost of automobile accidents in the U.S. is roughly $230 billion
in hospital bills alone. The cost in human lives is ~40,000 per year, or
roughly as much as much as the Korean war, repeated every year, for the last
50 years. Throwing $100 billion per year at the problem to reduce this toll
would be well worth it. 

U.S. automobile fatality rates (fatalities per passenger mile) have
declined, but I do not think they have fallen as much as in Japan. Per 100
million vehicle miles, rates fell from 1.73 to 1.28 between 1994 and 2008
(14 years). See:

http://www-fars.nhtsa.dot.gov/Main/index.aspx 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_motor_vehicle_deaths_in_U.S._by_year 

The absolute number of people killed per year has fallen from a peak at
around 50,000 in 1979 to 40,000 today. Compared to population and total
driving this is a 36% decline. That is impressive, but not as impressive as
the 70% decline in Japan since their peak in 1970. Their population has not
increased significantly since 1980, so this 70% decline is also per capita
and probably pretty close to the decline per passenger mile.

To some extent, with modern automobiles, we trade off death in accidents for
both injuries and for the destruction of the vehicle. That is to say, we
have fewer deaths but more people are gravely injured, with multiple
fractures of the legs and so on. Air bags save their lives but they end up
in the hospital for long periods. Also, automobiles absorb the energy from
the collision and are destroyed more often, I think. I believe I read that
more automobile insurance is now paid to cover hospital bills than vehicle
repairs. These are trade offs anyone would be pleased to make!

Human life in general is given a much higher premium in modern times than it
was 50 or 150 years ago. In 1861, the Pony Express supposedly advertised for
riders as follows: "Young, skinny, wiry fellows, not over 18. Must be expert
riders. Willing to risk death daily. Orphans preferred." This probably a
myth, but the fact that people believed it tells you a lot about the times.

Of course employment opportunities in 1861 were mainly in the U.S. Army, and
did feature risking death often, if not daily. The national attitude toward
casualties, and willingness to sustain them, changed completely from the
Civil War to WWI, WWII and to present-day wars. Willingness to inflict
casualties on the enemy has also declined since 1945. Even in WWII enemy
casualties were a laughing matter (literally), at least among civilians, but
not today.

- Jed

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