In reply to Alain Sepeda's message of Mon, 5 Mar 2012 01:29:31 +0100:
Hi,
[snip]
- gamma seems to be absorbed (or supressed but no mecanism is proposed
yet), and at least to be reduced in hardness, transformed in X-rays or UV,
quite easily shielded by reactor or heavy materials (lead or heavy
Axil,
I appreciate your ongoing technical and logical explanations, primarily
because I can understand them... My one comment about your following
statement:
*
*
*Without this radiation suppression mechanism in place and operating AT
ALL TIMES, a cold fusion system is of little use.*
It seems
The possibility has been brought to my attention that levels of neutron
emission are generally so low that it's unlikely that they can be ascribed
to a LENR process. So one might want to be a little skeptical of evidence
of neutrons.
Eric
On Sat, Mar 3, 2012 at 9:12 PM, Eric Walker
“It seems to me that a cold fusion system with containment is still better
than a hot fission system with containment, i.e. Fukushima. since a cold
fusion system can cool down by itself without having to dump half the
ocean on it...”
This is true. But it is worth almost anything to keep the
if you follow the Widom-Larsen theory, or similar nucleon absorption by
nucleus (even hydrino is akind of neutron=e+p-v),
the situation could be interpreted as :
- no neutrons visible outside , because they are slower than thermal, and
are absorbed early , or are not neutrons (hydrinos, protons)
-
Agree with response 1, although if there is any chance of gamma during
startup/shutdown/malfunction/breach I can see the NRC wanting to be in the
loop.
Response 2, I have no idea. It seems like if the transmuted rare earth
metal final product was clean and the economics were right, there might
the reference of higher than background are scarce and this have been a
strong arguments against LENR.
from what I've read, there are some moments when the reaction seems to
produce some gamma, some neutrons, but not at all at a level compatible
with the excess heat, nor dangerous or even
*IMHO, we have been correctly told by DGT that their LENR process is a
complex one comprised of many related and interconnected but separable
sub-processes which when combined together produce heat without the
production of intense and long lasting radiation.*
* *
*I believe that their cold
Von: Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com
An: vortex-l@eskimo.com
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...their LENR process is a complex one comprised
of many related and interconnected but separable sub-processes
Does anyone know of any indication of Neutron radiation in any LENR/Cold Fusion
experiment. If I remeber Levi correctly, he seems to have said that neutrons
were absent in Rossi's E-Cat. Focardi also indicated that he has not measured
neutrons at all. I don't recall Celani saying he measured
There are reports of low but significant levels of fast neutrons above
background. Charles Beaudette describes a 1992 experiment by Akito
Takahashi, for example, that found neutrons being emitted from a Pd-D
system. In general, however, the level of neutron emission is well below
that which
Hey Vortex Gang,
My primary question motivating this post/query is to get a consensus on whether
the presence of radiation is a necessary prerequisite for LENR/Cold Fusion
Effects. IOW, is radiation ALWAYS present when an LENR/Cold Fusion effect
occurs.
On one hand, there appears to be
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From: Joseph Hao jth...@hotmail.com
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Subject: [Vo]:To Radiate or Not to Radiate
Hey Vortex Gang,
My primary question motivating this post/query is to get a consensus on whether
the presence of radiation
That is not correct. Many chemical and mechanical processes produce
radiation well into the x-ray range - even something as mundane as Scotch
tape.
http://articles.latimes.com/2008/oct/25/science/sci-tape25
Forget a cloud chamber. You need a dedicated meter with data logging.
Although
to correct me.
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From: Jones Beene
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That is not correct. Many chemical and mechanical processes produce radiation
well into the x-ray range
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Sent: Friday, March 02, 2012 9:20 AM
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Yes, dedicated meter with data logging together with data logging of the
temperature of the reactor reactants. I plan to correlate radiation spikes
with temperature spikes
reversed the
polarity but that does not remove the charge buildup problem. Not sure if this
would work. More experiment is required.
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Thanks Mark.
My reactor would be totally enclosed inside the cylindrical wall, which is
the Ion chamber Anode. The reactor itself will be the Ion chamber Cathode.
This would
Jojo,
Recalled Dr. Santilli evacuated his building and property fearing
harmful radiation at one stage of experimenting with unknown
consequences. Either I was chatting with him about a year ago at his
plant in tarpon Springs, FL or came across it in published literature.
The thrust of his
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