Re: [Vo]:Topology is Key. Carbon Nanostructures are King

2012-08-28 Thread hellokevin
Hello Jojo:   One thing to consider is the opposite of high speed kinetic movement.  K. P. Sinha induced LENR by using a laser and REMOVING energy from the system.  And Kim theorizes that Bose-Einstein Condensates are the primary cause, which points again to a REMOVAL of energy from the system. 

Re: [Vo]:Topology is Key. Carbon Nanostructures are King

2012-08-28 Thread ChemE Stewart
I believe unless you remove energy from the condensate, the energy radiated from the collapse of matter will instantly heat the condensate and quench further collapse since you reach new thermodynamic stability. Possibly the only way to counteract that (beyond removing heat) is a stronger

Re: [Vo]:Topology is Key. Carbon Nanostructures are King

2012-08-28 Thread hellokevin
Nobel Prize in Physics) --- On Tue, 8/28/12, ChemE Stewart cheme...@gmail.com wrote: From: ChemE Stewart cheme...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Topology is Key. Carbon Nanostructures are King To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Date: Tuesday, August 28, 2012, 12:09 PM I believe unless you remove energy from

Re: [Vo]:Topology is Key. Carbon Nanostructures are King

2012-08-28 Thread Axil Axil
On the face of it, there seems to be an engineering dilemma associated with the concept of removing kinetic energy from atoms in designing a mechanism to produce power from heat. But we can do what we want to do if we take another tack. At the end of the day, the formation of an entangled

Re: [Vo]:Topology is Key. Carbon Nanostructures are King

2012-08-28 Thread hellokevin
]:Topology is Key. Carbon Nanostructures are King To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Date: Tuesday, August 28, 2012, 4:45 PM On the face of it, there seems to be an engineering dilemma associated with the concept of removing kinetic energy from atoms in designing a mechanism to produce power from

Re: [Vo]:Topology is Key. Carbon Nanostructures are King

2012-08-28 Thread ChemE Stewart
I agree. I believe a metallic lattice is probably a crude first attempt at harnessing this effect but will be discarded quickly once other types of engineered confinement and/or isolation is designed. I also can't stop thinking about what TerraWatt and the original Papp Engine are/were possibly

Re: [Vo]:Topology is Key. Carbon Nanostructures are King

2012-08-28 Thread Terry Blanton
Terawatt.com sure reminds me of Steorn.com T

Re: [Vo]:Topology is Key. Carbon Nanostructures are King

2012-08-28 Thread ChemE Stewart
They appear more legit to me and with alot of big names on the board, for what that is worth. I am going to guess if that device sees wear and tear and premature failures, they will occur between the surfaces of those magnets on the magnetic oscillator where all of the uncertainty takes place...

Re: [Vo]:Topology is Key. Carbon Nanostructures are King

2012-08-28 Thread Terry Blanton
On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 9:52 PM, ChemE Stewart cheme...@gmail.com wrote: They appear more legit to me and with alot of big names on the board, for what that is worth. Yeah, but what is their involvement. I know lots of people who sit on boards if companies who have no idea of why they are

RE: [Vo]:Topology is Key. Carbon Nanostructures are King

2012-08-27 Thread Jones Beene
Franco, Yes - in a short post about a complicated subject, it is hard to cover all the bases. I think Kim is incorrect on some of the details, but his take on it is intriguing. It is certainly possible that we should be talking about multiples of 2 bound protons, instead of only 2 - or

Re: [Vo]:Topology is Key. Carbon Nanostructures are King

2012-08-26 Thread Eric Walker
Le Aug 23, 2012 à 10:16 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com a écrit : http://cdn.intechweb.org/pdfs/17002.pdf The above paper attempts to prove that carbon nanotubes are superconductive at very high temperatures by imbedding nickel nanoparticles in the outside wall of a multi walled nanotube

RE: [Vo]:Topology is Key. Carbon Nanostructures are King

2012-08-26 Thread Jones Beene
All in all, this Zhao paper reinforces the strategy of JoJo and/or anyone else who may be considering it - to work with hydrogen and CNT. I hope that a number of experimenters can get hold of adequate material to try, and will report results, even if negative. If you want to tie this paper into

Re: [Vo]:Topology is Key. Carbon Nanostructures are King

2012-08-26 Thread Franco Talari
Jones, I don't understand how you can call 2 protons (which combine to form a bosonic quasiparticle) a 'condensate' (transient or otherwise) since protons are Fermions and only 1 quasiparticle boson is formed from 2 protons. A single boson (pair of protons) is not a condensate. In Kim's

Re: [Vo]:Topology is Key. Carbon Nanostructures are King

2012-08-24 Thread Bob Higgins
The CNT hypothesis it is interesting in that it provides a way engineer the nano-feature cavities. However, a problem may exist with this strategy if Peter Hagelstein's theory is correct. According to Hagelstein, the excited fused nucleus relaxes to a ground state by emitting multiple phonons

RE: [Vo]:Topology is Key. Carbon Nanostructures are King

2012-08-24 Thread Jones Beene
From: Jojo Jaro PS: On a different note, what would a p + p fusion reaction look like. I have designed a new reactor with a view sight glass, hopefully, I'll see some fusion reactions taking place. This is where the problem arises. Sadly, you will probably never see it, even if you

Re: [Vo]:Topology is Key. Carbon Nanostructures are King

2012-08-24 Thread Peter Gluck
Jojo, I recommend you to discuss the problem of LENR-2 openly and directly with Edmund Storms- he is the most documented and knowledgeable in the field of LENR and is very open minded. And nice. Plus he has good means for doing experiments that can confirm or not the idea Peter On Fri, Aug 24,

Re: [Vo]:Topology is Key. Carbon Nanostructures are King

2012-08-24 Thread Bob Higgins
Peter Hagelstein says that transmutation of nickel to copper is overall endothermic. On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 9:46 AM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: ** ** If you want to show the heat came from the transmutation - that is a far different story, and Piantelli or no one else has come

RE: [Vo]:Topology is Key. Carbon Nanostructures are King

2012-08-24 Thread Jones Beene
Well, Bob - this would depend on which isotopes of Ni are involved, as some reaction could be gainful - but one thing that almost every expert agrees on, is that if-and-when Nickel does transmute to Copper, one cannot end-up with a natural copper isotope ratio as the ash. Moreover, there will

Re: [Vo]:Topology is Key. Carbon Nanostructures are King

2012-08-24 Thread Harry Veeder
I have heard that it depends on which isotopes of nickel are involved. harry On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 10:01 AM, Bob Higgins rj.bob.higg...@gmail.com wrote: Peter Hagelstein says that transmutation of nickel to copper is overall endothermic. On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 9:46 AM, Jones Beene

Re: [Vo]:Topology is Key. Carbon Nanostructures are King

2012-08-24 Thread Jojo Jaro
Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 9:46 PM Subject: RE: [Vo]:Topology is Key. Carbon Nanostructures are King From: Jojo Jaro PS: On a different note, what would a p + p fusion reaction look like. I have designed a new reactor with a view sight glass, hopefully, I'll see some

Re: [Vo]:Topology is Key. Carbon Nanostructures are King

2012-08-24 Thread Jojo Jaro
- Original Message - From: Jojo Jaro To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2012 4:44 AM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Topology is Key. Carbon Nanostructures are King It seems to me that 2He being a Noble gas would be stable and not decay back to 2 H+ ions. If what you

RE: [Vo]:Topology is Key. Carbon Nanostructures are King

2012-08-24 Thread Jones Beene
: Jones Beene mailto:jone...@pacbell.net To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 9:46 PM Subject: RE: [Vo]:Topology is Key. Carbon Nanostructures are King From: Jojo

Re: [Vo]:Topology is Key. Carbon Nanostructures are King

2012-08-24 Thread Jojo Jaro
on. Jojo - Original Message - From: Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2012 5:28 AM Subject: RE: [Vo]:Topology is Key. Carbon Nanostructures are King From: Jojo Jaro If I am understanding you correctly, you are saying that p + p would

Re: [Vo]:Topology is Key. Carbon Nanostructures are King

2012-08-23 Thread ChemE Stewart
http://arxiv.org/pdf/cond-mat/0112178.pdf On Thursday, August 23, 2012, Jojo Jaro wrote: ** Does anyone have access to this paper? Charge screening effect in metallic carbon nanotubes. I think this paper may hold the key to engineering the right size carbon nanotube. Jojo

Re: [Vo]:Topology is Key. Carbon Nanostructures are King

2012-08-23 Thread Jojo Jaro
You Da man! Mucho Thanks. Jojo - Original Message - From: ChemE Stewart To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 9:13 AM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Topology is Key. Carbon Nanostructures are King http://arxiv.org/pdf/cond-mat/0112178.pdf On Thursday, August 23

Re: [Vo]:Topology is Key. Carbon Nanostructures are King

2012-08-23 Thread Jojo Jaro
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Topology is Key. Carbon Nanostructures are King http://arxiv.org/pdf/cond-mat/0112178.pdf On Thursday, August 23, 2012, Jojo Jaro wrote: Does anyone have access to this paper? Charge screening effect in metallic carbon nanotubes. I think this paper may hold

Re: [Vo]:Topology is Key. Carbon Nanostructures are King

2012-08-23 Thread Jojo Jaro
: Re: [Vo]:Topology is Key. Carbon Nanostructures are King WOW, this paper is a gold mine, and most of it went over my head. This quantum mechanical concepts are way past my paygrade. Maybe Jones, Fran or Axil and others can chime in. Our resident expert who is trained in relativity is also

RE: [Vo]:Topology is Key. Carbon Nanostructures are King

2012-08-23 Thread Jones Beene
From: Jojo Jaro Imagine a mat of Carbon nanohorns enveloped by high pressure molecular H2 gas. A considerable amount of H2 molecules will enter the nanohorn pipe and would almost be trapped there . Jojo - One practical approach you might consider is to contact any or all of the

Re: [Vo]:Topology is Key. Carbon Nanostructures are King

2012-08-23 Thread Jojo Jaro
- From: Jones Beene To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 11:46 AM Subject: RE: [Vo]:Topology is Key. Carbon Nanostructures are King From: Jojo Jaro Imagine a mat of Carbon nanohorns enveloped by high pressure molecular H2 gas. A considerable amount of H2

Re: [Vo]:Topology is Key. Carbon Nanostructures are King

2012-08-23 Thread Axil Axil
- Original Message - *From:* Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com *Sent:* Friday, August 24, 2012 11:46 AM *Subject:* RE: [Vo]:Topology is Key. Carbon Nanostructures are King ** ** *From:* Jojo Jaro Imagine a mat of Carbon nanohorns enveloped by high

Re: [Vo]:Topology is Key. Carbon Nanostructures are King

2012-08-23 Thread Jojo Jaro
: Jones Beene To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 11:46 AM Subject: RE: [Vo]:Topology is Key. Carbon Nanostructures are King From: Jojo Jaro Imagine a mat of Carbon nanohorns enveloped by high pressure molecular H2 gas. A considerable amount of H2 molecules

Re: [Vo]:Topology is Key. Carbon Nanostructures are King

2012-08-23 Thread Jojo Jaro
Axil To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 1:16 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Topology is Key. Carbon Nanostructures are King http://cdn.intechweb.org/pdfs/17002.pdf The above paper attempts to prove that carbon nanotubes are superconductive at very high temperatures

Re: [Vo]:Topology is Key. Carbon Nanostructures are King

2012-08-21 Thread ChemE Stewart
You are describing a horny gremlin... On Tuesday, August 21, 2012, Jojo Jaro wrote: ** Gang, There has been a lot of discussion about various LENR results lately. In these discussions, I think a consensus is building up that the key to successful LENR is topology. There has been flurry

Re: [Vo]:Topology is Key. Carbon Nanostructures are King

2012-08-21 Thread Peter Gluck
Dear Jojo, a) It has only a symbolic importance perhaps but *topology *i*s the key *as idea and as expression was first stated in my 1991 paper. b) what you say about LENR made in carbon nanostructures is very interesting- however what are the experimental facts that support this bright idea?

Re: [Vo]:Topology is Key. Carbon Nanostructures are King

2012-08-21 Thread ChemE Stewart
I realize Axil has been harping on Rydberg matter for months. Inverted Rydberg matter sounds even more interesting to me. Miley states that once the D(-1) inverted state is created in voids it may reside permanently. I also wonder what happens if it resides in a void and that void

Re: [Vo]:Topology is Key. Carbon Nanostructures are King

2012-08-21 Thread Jojo Jaro
to worry about whether we were right or wrong. We would know we were wrong for sure. Jojo - Original Message - From: Peter Gluck To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2012 8:30 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Topology is Key. Carbon Nanostructures are King Dear Jojo

Re: [Vo]:Topology is Key. Carbon Nanostructures are King

2012-08-21 Thread Jojo Jaro
Let me ellucidate another reason why I believe in Carbon Nanohorns is the right NAE. Understand that a Carbon Nanohorn is essentially a long long pipe with an open end on one end. H2 in molecular form can diffuse into the carbon nanohorn or pass thru from the open end and accumulate inside

Re: [Vo]:Topology is Key. Carbon Nanostructures are King

2012-08-21 Thread ChemE Stewart
I agree with most of that although i expect carbon nanotubes to remain rigid while heated. I think having a metallic lattice crack/void completely filled inverted irydberg matter and then having that voild collapse arond it when it thermally expands due to heating and electrical stimulation is

Re: [Vo]:Topology is Key. Carbon Nanostructures are King

2012-08-21 Thread Peter Gluck
*Sent:* Tuesday, August 21, 2012 8:30 PM *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:Topology is Key. Carbon Nanostructures are King Dear Jojo, a) It has only a symbolic importance perhaps but *topology *i*s the key *as idea and as expression was first stated in my 1991 paper. b) what you say about LENR made

Re: [Vo]:Topology is Key. Carbon Nanostructures are King

2012-08-21 Thread Jojo Jaro
Message - From: ChemE Stewart To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2012 9:49 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Topology is Key. Carbon Nanostructures are King I agree with most of that although i expect carbon nanotubes to remain rigid while heated. I think having a metallic lattice

Re: [Vo]:Topology is Key. Carbon Nanostructures are King

2012-08-21 Thread Peter Gluck
is an environment that screens the coulomb barrier repulsion to allow these ions a chance to fuse. Jojo - Original Message - *From:* ChemE Stewart cheme...@gmail.com *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com *Sent:* Tuesday, August 21, 2012 9:49 PM *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:Topology is Key. Carbon

Re: [Vo]:Topology is Key. Carbon Nanostructures are King

2012-08-21 Thread Jojo Jaro
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2012 9:55 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Topology is Key. Carbon Nanostructures are King Jojo, All I can do is to wish you (the action) success, because we need it. Topology is the key, however the wall is the door- that is it participates

Re: [Vo]:Topology is Key. Carbon Nanostructures are King

2012-08-21 Thread ChemE Stewart
: [Vo]:Topology is Key. Carbon Nanostructures are King I agree with most of that although i expect carbon nanotubes to remain rigid while heated. I think having a metallic lattice crack/void completely filled inverted irydberg matter and then having that voild collapse arond it when

Re: [Vo]:Topology is Key. Carbon Nanostructures are King

2012-08-21 Thread Te Chung
kw linear generator model from vortex. Chung --- On Tue, 8/21/12, Jojo Jaro jth...@hotmail.com wrote: From: Jojo Jaro jth...@hotmail.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Topology is Key. Carbon Nanostructures are King To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Date: Tuesday, August 21, 2012, 7:28 AM No, I don't believe

Re: [Vo]:Topology is Key. Carbon Nanostructures are King

2012-08-21 Thread David Roberson
@eskimo.com Sent: Tue, Aug 21, 2012 9:08 am Subject: Re: [Vo]:Topology is Key. Carbon Nanostructures are King Peter, No experimental facts yet. I am working from a theoritical top-down approach. However, I believe it shouldn't take long to get some kind of proof of concept, which I should

Re: [Vo]:Topology is Key. Carbon Nanostructures are King

2012-08-21 Thread pagnucco
: Peter Gluck To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2012 8:30 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Topology is Key. Carbon Nanostructures are King Dear Jojo, a) It has only a symbolic importance perhaps but topology is the key as idea and as expression was first stated in my 1991

Re: [Vo]:Topology is Key. Carbon Nanostructures are King

2012-08-21 Thread Fang Sen
See: http://arxiv.org/pdf/physics/0608229 +++

Re: [Vo]:Topology is Key. Carbon Nanostructures are King

2012-08-21 Thread ChemE Stewart
. Jojo - Original Message - From: Peter Gluck To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2012 8:30 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Topology is Key. Carbon Nanostructures are King Dear Jojo, a) It has only a symbolic importance perhaps but topology

Re: [Vo]:Topology is Key. Carbon Nanostructures are King

2012-08-21 Thread Jojo Jaro
to lick this problem and solve it. Or not. You'll know when I win the Nobel Prize :-) Jojo - Original Message - From: pagnu...@htdconnect.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 1:45 AM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Topology is Key. Carbon Nanostructures are King Jojo

Re: [Vo]:Topology is Key. Carbon Nanostructures are King

2012-08-21 Thread Jojo Jaro
- From: ChemE Stewart To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 2:29 AM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Topology is Key. Carbon Nanostructures are King Just as a first pass I calculated a minimum crack/void volume if you were filling the crack/void with inverted Rydberg Matter

Re: [Vo]:Topology is Key. Carbon Nanostructures are King

2012-08-21 Thread ChemE Stewart
were right or wrong. We would know we were wrong for sure. Jojo - Original Message - From: Peter Gluck To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2012 8:30 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Topology is Key. Carbon Nanostructures are King Dear Jojo